I was wondering how dangerous a cut shell is?
I not asking for a lecture here just wisdom or thoughts.
I had a friend once use a cut shell. It was a 12 gauge bird shot. He cut it so it would be a slug.

Cut Shell?
#1
Posted 06 October 2011 - 08:35 PM
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#3
Posted 06 October 2011 - 09:31 PM
Not really understanding the term "cut shell", or how one could turn birdshot into a slug by simply modifying the casing...
Explain please.
Explain please.
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#4
Posted 06 October 2011 - 09:49 PM
He cut all the way through and around where the plastic wad was. He had it in case he saw a deer during bird season. When he shot the cut portion of the shell didn't open, yet came out as a slug.
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#5
Posted 06 October 2011 - 10:11 PM
I've heard 'em called "poor mans slugs" or "redneck slugs".
I've seen them made by cutting the hull just below where the shot sits in the wad, almost all the way around, leaving an 1/8" tab holding the hull (and shotshell) together. As Mike describes, when you fire it, the end of the hull breaks off, that and the wad, and all the shot stay as one piece. It's not very accurate, if you shoot one out of a full choke it'll fall apart and make a terrible pattern, but it does act as one of those Glazer Safety Slugs when it hits something.
Like so- http://www.youtube.c...h?v=soYdgu9nNAA
They work best when loaded right into the chamber by hand, or in a break action.
I've seen them made by cutting the hull just below where the shot sits in the wad, almost all the way around, leaving an 1/8" tab holding the hull (and shotshell) together. As Mike describes, when you fire it, the end of the hull breaks off, that and the wad, and all the shot stay as one piece. It's not very accurate, if you shoot one out of a full choke it'll fall apart and make a terrible pattern, but it does act as one of those Glazer Safety Slugs when it hits something.
Like so- http://www.youtube.c...h?v=soYdgu9nNAA
They work best when loaded right into the chamber by hand, or in a break action.
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#6
Posted 06 October 2011 - 10:42 PM
Watched the video...there's no denying the stopping power I guess, but why not just carry a couple of rounds of 00 buck?
I suppose that if that's all you had it would be better than just straight birdshot though.
I suppose that if that's all you had it would be better than just straight birdshot though.
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#7
Posted 06 October 2011 - 10:55 PM
Mrknot, on 06 October 2011 - 10:42 PM, said:
Watched the video...there's no denying the stopping power I guess, but why not just carry a couple of rounds of 00 buck?
I suppose that if that's all you had it would be better than just straight birdshot though.
I suppose that if that's all you had it would be better than just straight birdshot though.
That's where I was going with it. In the ZPAW you might find some shells only to find they are #8 bird shot. A cut shell could save your life.
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#8
Posted 06 October 2011 - 10:55 PM
I can see something like that for way back in the day. But with the modern propellants and projectiles we ahve to day would that be really necessary?
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#9
Posted 07 October 2011 - 05:43 AM
I'd like to see how it penetrates a standard sheetrock wall.
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#10
Posted 07 October 2011 - 12:36 PM
It seems by the water heater footage that it would penetrate a skull. I saw it take a dig doe down.
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#12
Posted 07 October 2011 - 09:02 PM
Dig Dug's wife...duh!
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#13
Posted 07 October 2011 - 10:12 PM
Mrknot, on 07 October 2011 - 09:02 PM, said:
Dig Dug's wife...duh!
That's funny and you show your age my quarterless friend.
Big doe. I missed that on the proofread. Sorry.
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#14
Posted 08 October 2011 - 12:00 AM
He's getting sensitive knot
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#15
Posted 08 October 2011 - 12:45 AM
And I'm getting nostalgic...
Remember the first Star Wars game? The one where you had to fight the Tie Fighters and then attack the Death Star?
Man, that was a kick-a$$ game!
Remember the first Star Wars game? The one where you had to fight the Tie Fighters and then attack the Death Star?
Man, that was a kick-a$$ game!
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
-Robert A. Heinlein
"Happiness is a warm gun."
-John Lennon
[IMG]http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd504/mrknot/coexist-firearm-gun-manufacturer-logo-sticker.jpg[/img]
-Robert A. Heinlein
"Happiness is a warm gun."
-John Lennon
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#16
Posted 08 October 2011 - 12:52 AM
What brought that on?
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#17
Posted 08 October 2011 - 01:02 AM
Old school vids man...
Those were the days...
man, I'm getting old.
Those were the days...
man, I'm getting old.
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
-Robert A. Heinlein
"Happiness is a warm gun."
-John Lennon
[IMG]http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd504/mrknot/coexist-firearm-gun-manufacturer-logo-sticker.jpg[/img]
-Robert A. Heinlein
"Happiness is a warm gun."
-John Lennon
[IMG]http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd504/mrknot/coexist-firearm-gun-manufacturer-logo-sticker.jpg[/img]
#18
Posted 08 October 2011 - 01:03 AM
I've shot quite a few of these . They have no problem going through 2x4's and plywood . Never shot at much else with them yet though . They are mentioned in the Mi hunting regs btw .
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stupid should hurt
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#19
Posted 08 October 2011 - 06:22 AM
I think some tests are in order.
Accuracy at various distances
Penetration at various distances.
Anyone want to volunteer to do it?
By the way when I was told about this originally I discounted the idea saying I would just buy real slugs.
Accuracy at various distances
Penetration at various distances.
Anyone want to volunteer to do it?
By the way when I was told about this originally I discounted the idea saying I would just buy real slugs.
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#20
Posted 08 October 2011 - 12:55 PM
Mrknot, on 08 October 2011 - 12:45 AM, said:
And I'm getting nostalgic...
Remember the first Star Wars game? The one where you had to fight the Tie Fighters and then attack the Death Star?
Man, that was a kick-a$$ game!
Remember the first Star Wars game? The one where you had to fight the Tie Fighters and then attack the Death Star?
Man, that was a kick-a$$ game!
Yeah that was a cool game! Ud keep up.
Hitman, on 08 October 2011 - 01:03 AM, said:
I've shot quite a few of these . They have no problem going through 2x4's and plywood . Never shot at much else with them yet though . They are mentioned in the Mi hunting regs btw .
Exactly, they are contraband and if the DNR finds them you get fined. And you can't BS why you would have them on you!
The Machine of censorship is grinding our brains into the gray goo of conformity! - Boomstick Mike
CDC = UMBRELLA CORPORATION
You light a man a fire and he has warmth for a day; you light a man on fire and he has warmth for life
Don't try to act like an expert. It's obvious you aren't and pretending that you are just makes you look like a dumbazz - CAVU45
CDC = UMBRELLA CORPORATION
You light a man a fire and he has warmth for a day; you light a man on fire and he has warmth for life
Don't try to act like an expert. It's obvious you aren't and pretending that you are just makes you look like a dumbazz - CAVU45
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