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Why 22 sucks for use against the Undead Undead or Not Dead Yet is still is a poor choice

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Wow lengthy post there.

But, no... I've never had a .22 go "bang" or I guess what you're talking about there is misfire (that I can recall). I've shot probably 1000's of rounds and can't remember a single incident.

For me there is one reason I would not want to carry a .22 and 2 reasons I would. (the one reason would trump the 2 given a choice)

The reason for me not to have it as a primary weapon, is simply lack of power.

2 reasons I would, ease of scavenging ammo, and ability to carry 100's of rounds. Still though if I'm running out the door with only the chance to grab one gun 7.62mm a compromise of the best of both worlds...done..
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View PostUnderdude, on 02 November 2011 - 04:31 AM, said:

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View Postfg42lol, on 06 October 2011 - 11:34 PM, said:

.22 rifles are easily suppressed. just saying

In my very limited and humble experience, a supressed gun is still noisy, just a bit less so, but I've only seen a supressed .22LR used once plinking off a dirt road and it constantly failed to cycle (it was a semi-auto pistol). To this day I don't know if it was the gun, the ammunition or poor maintenance since that happened a looong time ago.

Still loud? No way, even out of rifles, no need for ears on. From a 100 yards away it's difficult to know where it's coming from. 30db makes a HUGE difference.

Less loud, but still hard to ignore if there's no background noise. That was with Aguila .22LR standard (40 grains, about a thousand fps I think).

Would a Zombie at over 100 yards hear it and start coming at you, hear it but shamble about unsure where to go or not hear it at all?
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We were in the desert, flat and barren. The same thing in the woods or a city street would be even less noticable I believe. We were using standard 5.56 surplus. The same can on a Walther P22 and we didn't even notice right away somebody was shooting it.
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Sounds very nice, I didn't even know you could use the same supressor for .22lr and milspec 5.56. Did you have any FTE's with the Walther using it?
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I rather have a .22 than not having a gun at all when the SHTF.
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$279 will get you a Remington 770 bolt rifle with a scope in a real caliber like .308 or 223
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If we are talking about a 22 as an offensive weapon I would say absolutely no, for me it's a weight thing. If I am out and about and my choice is between a 22 or ~10lbs more of center fire ammo, I am taking the ammo every time. That weight is for a rifle obviously but I wouldn't even consider a 22 handgun.

But if we're talking defensively and I had no option but to pick up a 22 and put a tight group in a zombies forehead, yah I would use it.
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View PostBob, on 16 November 2011 - 07:19 PM, said:

$279 will get you a Remington 770 bolt rifle with a scope in a real caliber like .308 or 223

Bob, what bolt action would you prefer in a close quarter situation?
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View Postrazorreilly, on 02 December 2011 - 10:52 PM, said:

View PostBob, on 16 November 2011 - 07:19 PM, said:

$279 will get you a Remington 770 bolt rifle with a scope in a real caliber like .308 or 223

Bob, what bolt action would you prefer in a close quarter situation?


How close is close quarters? A bolt action in close quarters would be terrible unless you want to use it to smack the zombie in the face.

If I were to choose a .22 it would be a Ruger 10/22 with a 25 round banana clip.
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Razor

I am not sure how to answer that question.
I guess one with a really smooth bolt that feeds well.
You would typically only have 4-5 shots and would have a scope which is unsuited for close quarters
I would think that low recoil would be important

So lets say a 16" barrel chambered in 223 that would be a manageable length.
I would think a removable box magazine would be a plus.

Is cost a factor?
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View Postmattifikation, on 01 October 2011 - 02:44 AM, said:

Is this sober me, drunk me, doped up me, pcp-induced rage me, or zombie me?


Late response to these, but i read that as POP-induced rage. I thought that was some sugar rush you got goin' there.







View Postfg42lol, on 30 September 2011 - 10:14 PM, said:

well... Would you be convinced to stop attacking someone if they tagged you six or seven times in the chest with a .22lr handgun?



If they tagged me six or seven times, he might've also missed a few times too. It might be an opportune time to press the attack before he has a chance to reload.
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View PostBob, on 16 November 2011 - 07:19 PM, said:

$279 will get you a Remington 770 bolt rifle with a scope in a real caliber like .308 or 223

223 is not a real bullet gotta be 06. 308, 8mm mauser or bigger to be worth ownin like the 45-70 for example
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kiltedninja Posted 04 November 2010 - 03:57 PM

Well, some of us are a whole lot older than that. I think Bob might have actually fought in the civil war

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View Posthomelitexl, on 06 December 2011 - 11:51 AM, said:

View PostBob, on 16 November 2011 - 07:19 PM, said:

$279 will get you a Remington 770 bolt rifle with a scope in a real caliber like .308 or 223

223 is not a real bullet gotta be 06. 308, 8mm mauser or bigger to be worth ownin like the 45-70 for example


The 770 also comes in 30-06, .308, and 270
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its a shame the 45-70 doesnt come in assualt rifles
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kiltedninja Posted 04 November 2010 - 03:57 PM

Well, some of us are a whole lot older than that. I think Bob might have actually fought in the civil war

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the 45-70 does come in a marlin lever gun!

if i needed to use a bolt action i would probably go for a 1903 Springfield or a smelly if it was chambered in 308, or i had access to plenty of 303. a weapon that's designed for fighting and can manage the heat and volume of fire. a bayonet would be mighty handy in a weapon with a low rate of fire and a limited capacity.
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yes but something like a m-16 in 45-70 would be epic doom
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kiltedninja Posted 04 November 2010 - 03:57 PM

Well, some of us are a whole lot older than that. I think Bob might have actually fought in the civil war

You know how I am with tools. No pain was inflicted intentionally.

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it's pretty powerful medicine in a lever gun.

You can get AR uppers chambered in similar calibers, well, ballistically at least.
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View Posthomelitexl, on 08 December 2011 - 05:00 PM, said:

yes but something like a m-16 in 45-70 would be epic doom


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Would .22 WMR perform better enough than .22 LR to be a possible alternative to larger calibers?
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