[DarthJoe8]

SWAT Zombie, on 06 December 2010 - 07:34 PM, said:

I'm not spinning. I agree, they aren't rotting because they are "hungry". They're rotting because their bodies are not regenerating new tissue because they can't take in new sources of nutrition or energy to replace it with. Hence they are starving.

But you are spinning, you're using this line to defend the fact that infected starve and undead don't.


See, this is like saying that grandma is rotting(getting old) because she didn't eat her veggies. New sources of nutrition doesn't regenerate grandma.

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So whatever causes their reanimation also seems to slow their rate of decay, but decay they still do.

Totally agree.

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It's not that they don't need to consume energy, it's that they can't consume energy.

Ah, but they can consume energy, they eat flesh (energy) they just don't have the processes to use it. Even a normal living human who consumes "energy" still "rots" (grows old). This is where we aren't seeing eye to eye on. You see it as the zombie eventually rotting because of a lack of nutrition, I don't. Entropy is a universal truth.

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I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.

[SWAT Zombie]

DarthJoe8, on 06 December 2010 - 07:47 PM, said:

But you are spinning, you're using this line to defend the fact that infected starve and undead don't.

I'm not defending that infected starve and undead don't. I'm saying that ultimately they both starve.

DarthJoe8, on 06 December 2010 - 07:47 PM, said:

See, this is like saying that grandma is rotting(getting old) because she didn't eat her veggies. New sources of nutrition doesn't regenerate grandma.

Grandma isn't rotting because her body is still able to take in enough nutrition to fight off the microbes that would cause her to rot. Undead are unable to take in any nutrition so they can't stop the microbes and they can't stop their muscles from deteriorating as they use them.

DarthJoe8, on 06 December 2010 - 07:47 PM, said:

Ah, but they can consume energy, they eat flesh (energy) they just don't have the processes to use it. Even a normal living human who consumes "energy" still "rots" (grows old). This is where we aren't seeing eye to eye on. You see it as the zombie eventually rotting because of a lack of nutrition, I don't. Entropy is a universal truth.

Entropy is a universal truth because things lose the ability, one way or another, to take in and use more energy. If they were able to take more in, they'd stave off entropy. This is true of pretty much everything, even stars and black holes. Entropy is a form of starvation. Everything eventually starves. If zombies rotting is just entropy, then zombies are starving just like the infected, just like a plant kept out of the sun, just like a star that runs out of hydrogen, just like a black hole that runs out of matter, just like a person who runs out of food or grows old and slowly loses the ability to regenerate. Undead have lost the ability to regenerate, just like grandma slowly is. But just in a more extreme way.
Again, I'm not saying they starve the way the infected starve. I'm saying it's a different type of starvation. I'm saying that using the argument that the infected starve as an argument against them being labeled zombies is invalid, especially if you want to use the entropy argument as well. I'm not defending that the infected starve, I'm saying your argument that they do isn't valid.

[Faran Brigo]

Somewhere right now, a biologist is weeping and he doesn't know why XD

Could we all just agree that it depends on the "type" of zombie?

Voodoo zombie: Yes, it's just a living person affected by neurotoxins and brain damage.

Infected "Zombie": Yes. It's like a living person with a bad case of crazy mutant rabies.

GAR "Zombie": No. It's already dead. It's like a machine, it can't even "die", it can be disabled/destroyed, but not killed or die. Those terms imply it was alive.

[Morbidfilm]

I made my zombies in BloodPigs dying from hunger. With so few people left to eat the dead begin to rot so badly that it is hard for them to even be mobile.

[Veldro]

Doubt it...all movies portray them as "living" for extended periods of time without showing any signs of needing food. They clearly eat humans for pleasure, not necessity.