[flesheatingzombie]

OK, first situation, the age old house defence scenario:

(skip the lead-up to the quick run-down after it if you wish)

--BEGIN LEAD-UP--
You are alone in a two storey house, you have been there for a day and barricaded all of the entrances bar a side door and a window at the back of the house. The second storey is accessed by a single flight of solid wooden stairs and from there a small attic can be reached via a pull-down ladder.

But now it is night, you're exhausted and in a lapse of mind you simply lock the un-barricaded door and push some furniture against the un-barricaded window before retiring to the upstairs bedroom to rest.

Soon you are awaken by a shrill scream followed by gunshots; someone is coming.

Hastily you run downstairs, collecting your only firearm; a .22 lever action rifle (15 round magazine), and rushing to look through a gap in your barricades at the front of the house.

Nothing.

Then a pounding on the side door, you rush to face it, your gun held ready as the it splinters around the handle and bursts open. Your face falls in relief as a man with a handgun holds his hands up and calls "don't shoot!". As you're lowering your gun he pushes the door closed and jams a table against it before turning to you;
"They're after me."

The very instant he finishes his sentence the pounding begins; the house is surrounded and within seconds both the side door and your crudely barricaded window are broken in.
--END LEAD-UP--

Here's where how it looks for you:

The Enemy:
You are facing the 28 Days Later infected 'zombies'. Fast and deadly, but they die like humans.
The Battlefield:

• Two storey house [north facing].
  
• You are at the bottom of the staircase to the second storey.

Your Allies:

• You are with a male who is carrying Glock 17 handgun.

Your Inventory:

• .22 Lever Action Rifle.
  
• Hammer.

The Defences:
There are two breaches in the house's perimeter, one being a side door on the western side of the house and the other being a window in the southern side. Both of these are allowing the infected access.
The remainder of the windows and doors are barricaded and completely secure.

Now is where you come in.
What would you do in this situation?
Will you live?
Will you die?

Good luck, you're going to need it.

[REAVER]

I would rush to the second store. I would have the man cover me, while i barricade the stair way. It would trap us on the second floor but would give us time to think of a plan. I would probable at this point leave just a big enough hole in the barricade to see and shot as many zombies as i could. if it start to look as though they where going to break through, i would retreat to the attic and pull the ladder steps up behind me us. (the one thing left out is approx. how man zombies are there) then i woul have him hold on to the ladder door and just open it a little, and take very accurate shots. hopefull there wouldnt be like a hundred zombies or anything but i think with that senerio i could hold of a good 30 zombies.

[CAVU45]

Can't play this RPG. I would never have a .22lr of any sort as a primary weapon. That's utter foolishness. BTW, isn't there already a section for RPGs?

[mattifikation]

flesheatingzombie, on 21 September 2010 - 07:25 AM, said:

OK, first situation, the age old house defence scenario:

(skip the lead-up to the quick run-down after it if you wish)

--BEGIN LEAD-UP--
You are alone in a two storey house, you have been there for a day and barricaded all of the entrances bar a side door and a window at the back of the house. The second storey is accessed by a single flight of solid wooden stairs and from there a small attic can be reached via a pull-down ladder.

But now it is night, you're exhausted and in a lapse of mind you simply lock the un-barricaded door and push some furniture against the un-barricaded window before retiring to the upstairs bedroom to rest.

Soon you are awaken by a shrill scream followed by gunshots; someone is coming.

Hastily you run downstairs, collecting your only firearm; a .22 lever action rifle (15 round magazine), and rushing to look through a gap in your barricades at the front of the house.

Nothing.

Then a pounding on the side door, you rush to face it, your gun held ready as the it splinters around the handle and bursts open. Your face falls in relief as a man with a handgun holds his hands up and calls "don't shoot!". As you're lowering your gun he pushes the door closed and jams a table against it before turning to you;
"They're after me."

The very instant he finishes his sentence the pounding begins; the house is surrounded and within seconds both the side door and your crudely barricaded window are broken in.
--END LEAD-UP--

Here's where how it looks for you:

The Enemy:
You are facing the 28 Days Later infected 'zombies'. Fast and deadly, but they die like humans.
The Battlefield:

• Two storey house [north facing].
  
• You are at the bottom of the staircase to the second storey.

Your Allies:

• You are with a male who is carrying Glock 17 handgun.

Your Inventory:

• .22 Lever Action Rifle.
  
• Hammer.

The Defences:
There are two breaches in the house's perimeter, one being a side door on the western side of the house and the other being a window in the southern side. Both of these are allowing the infected access.
The remainder of the windows and doors are barricaded and completely secure.

Now is where you come in.
What would you do in this situation?
Will you live?
Will you die?

Good luck, you're going to need it.

Sounds like you done ****ed up. But I'll bite.

Step 1: Shoot the d!ckhead that just broke my door the second he's got his back turned. Everything was fine until he brought all the trouble down on me. And odds are that if he's kicking in my door, he's not as much of an ally as he claims to be. He kicks in my door when it's convenient for him, and that means he'll probably do anything else to me and my stuff if it's convenient for him.

Step 2. Take his Glock. Thanks buddy, I obviously needed a better gun since I was somehow stupid enough to get stuck with a .22 for a weapon.

Step 3. Go up the stairs, hopefully there's something I can use to narrow the stairway to create a choke point. Kill anything that comes through it.

Step 4. If I miraculously survive that, I remind myself not to be so damn stupid and start taking the situation seriously. Only laziness and idiocy could get somebody into the situation you've just described.

[Landrik]

mattifikation, on 21 September 2010 - 11:36 AM, said:

Sounds like you done ****ed up. But I'll bite.

Step 1: Shoot the d!ckhead that just broke my door the second he's got his back turned. Everything was fine until he brought all the trouble down on me. And odds are that if he's kicking in my door, he's not as much of an ally as he claims to be. He kicks in my door when it's convenient for him, and that means he'll probably do anything else to me and my stuff if it's convenient for him.

Step 2. Take his Glock. Thanks buddy, I obviously needed a better gun since I was somehow stupid enough to get stuck with a .22 for a weapon.

Step 3. Go up the stairs, hopefully there's something I can use to narrow the stairway to create a choke point. Kill anything that comes through it.

Step 4. If I miraculously survive that, I remind myself not to be so damn stupid and start taking the situation seriously. Only laziness and idiocy could get somebody into the situation you've just described.

I lol'd.

[Survivor243]

flesheatingzombie, on 21 September 2010 - 07:25 AM, said:

OK, first situation, the age old house defence scenario:

(skip the lead-up to the quick run-down after it if you wish)

--BEGIN LEAD-UP--
You are alone in a two storey house, you have been there for a day and barricaded all of the entrances bar a side door and a window at the back of the house. The second storey is accessed by a single flight of solid wooden stairs and from there a small attic can be reached via a pull-down ladder.

But now it is night, you're exhausted and in a lapse of mind you simply lock the un-barricaded door and push some furniture against the un-barricaded window before retiring to the upstairs bedroom to rest.

Soon you are awaken by a shrill scream followed by gunshots; someone is coming.

Hastily you run downstairs, collecting your only firearm; a .22 lever action rifle (15 round magazine), and rushing to look through a gap in your barricades at the front of the house.

Nothing.

Then a pounding on the side door, you rush to face it, your gun held ready as the it splinters around the handle and bursts open. Your face falls in relief as a man with a handgun holds his hands up and calls "don't shoot!". As you're lowering your gun he pushes the door closed and jams a table against it before turning to you;
"They're after me."

The very instant he finishes his sentence the pounding begins; the house is surrounded and within seconds both the side door and your crudely barricaded window are broken in.
--END LEAD-UP--

Here's where how it looks for you:

The Enemy:
You are facing the 28 Days Later infected 'zombies'. Fast and deadly, but they die like humans.
The Battlefield:

• Two storey house [north facing].
  
• You are at the bottom of the staircase to the second storey.

Your Allies:

• You are with a male who is carrying Glock 17 handgun.

Your Inventory:

• .22 Lever Action Rifle.
  
• Hammer.

The Defences:
There are two breaches in the house's perimeter, one being a side door on the western side of the house and the other being a window in the southern side. Both of these are allowing the infected access.
The remainder of the windows and doors are barricaded and completely secure.

Now is where you come in.
What would you do in this situation?
Will you live?
Will you die?

Good luck, you're going to need it.

Okay, when you log onto the message boards, right above Survival and defense is the Undead RPG, go there.

[CAVU45]

mattifikation, on 21 September 2010 - 11:36 AM, said:

Sounds like you done ****ed up. But I'll bite.

Step 1: Shoot the d!ckhead that just broke my door the second he's got his back turned. Everything was fine until he brought all the trouble down on me. And odds are that if he's kicking in my door, he's not as much of an ally as he claims to be. He kicks in my door when it's convenient for him, and that means he'll probably do anything else to me and my stuff if it's convenient for him.

Step 2. Take his Glock. Thanks buddy, I obviously needed a better gun since I was somehow stupid enough to get stuck with a .22 for a weapon.

Step 3. Go up the stairs, hopefully there's something I can use to narrow the stairway to create a choke point. Kill anything that comes through it.

Step 4. If I miraculously survive that, I remind myself not to be so damn stupid and start taking the situation seriously. Only laziness and idiocy could get somebody into the situation you've just described.

Matt strikes again!

[Bob]

Bob with just a 22lr?
Now that is fantasy.

[mattifikation]

Notice I actually did try to answer the question as I went on my rant...

...I must be going soft. In the old days I would've just flipped out.

On the Internet, last week is "the old days."

[MRlogic]

the moment those zombies started to come in i would

first: tell him to follow me upstairs as fast as he can

second: open the atic door and go up there and have him barricade that thing up as fast as he could.

third: we would count our ammo and i would tell him to only shoot what you can hit and only shoot them in the head.

forth: if the zombie started to get in we would kill them one by one. since only one can come up at a time it would be easier.

fifth: when all the zombies were cleared out i would go downstairs, gather all the supplies we can take and leave. i would try to find shelter in maybe a police station, a prision, or a gun store. depending on where we are. and try to survive.

[mattifikation]

Parts of your plan that I like:

You recognize the fact that you are grossly outnumbered, so you take a reasonably feasible course of action to deprive your enemies of the ability to use their numbers against you. In other words, you force them to come at you one at a time instead of trying to take them all on at once.

You recognize the fact that you have limited ammo, so your plan calls for not wasting ammo.

Parts of your plan that I don't like:

That other guy is a bad guy, and you're welcoming him with open arms. I mean, he broke your door down. Maybe if the scenario said he just knocked, showed up begging for help, or something like that. Maybe then I would trust him. But he broke the door down. He broke in. He deliberately put your life in jeopardy to save his own skin. He broke in and invaded your place. He's not an ally, he's an enemy, and you can safely bet that any alliance he forms with you will be exceedingly temporary.

The places you want to go to are not good choices. Police stations will be inundated with the undead; Except for maybe hospitals, police stations will be the first places people go once they are bitten or when they want to look for help. If by some miracle the police forces are able to quell the riots and zombie outbreaks in and around their headquarters, it's going to be through less-than-friendly means... Like shooting to disperse any crowds that form.

A prison is going to be full of prisoners. If the guards are still there, they aren't going to randomly decide to let you in. They're going to send you away if you ask to be let in, and they're going to shoot you if you try to force your way in. If the guards have already abandoned their posts, you'll have the inmates to contend with. You can let them die in their cells, which will turn the entire compound into a festering dungeon full of rot, rodents, insects, and disease. Or you can let them out, which will probably lead to them murdering you as anarchy breaks out and they all run free. At any rate, if the guards are gone then chances are one faction of inmates or another will have taken over. Or... it could just be full of zombies in orange jump suits.

A gun store is going to be surrounded by the hundreds of zombies that used to be people with the same idea you had, and not long after showing up you will be joining their ranks. That same gun store will also probably be manned by the gun store owners, employees, and their families who will probably want nothing to do with you. To them, you will be just one more out of the hundreds of idiots who showed up trying to loot their gun store. If the zombies and other looters don't get you, those guys will.

[MRlogic]

ok how about the sewer, or a farm if your in the middle of nowhere

[Landrik]

Oh a sewer is just genius! Not only do you have the threat of zombies, but you get to contract horrible diseases and die!


Might wanna consider a name change buddy. You're already dead.

[Survivor243]

Maybe if the guy asked in the first post if you could chose the one weapon you already own with X amount of ammunition and the guy who showed was let inside, then maybe people would take this seriously.
Nah, probably not

[Bob]

http://simplythebest...files/alarm.wav


If you clicked the link you heard the sound of the STUPID ALARM.

LOCK THIS WORTHLESS THREAD.

[Toasty O's]

It would seem to me that if you have more bullets than there are Z's then going to the attic and shooting them one by one would be a good idea. That would be your only defensible position.

If it is apparent that there are more Z's than bullets, you will have to make a break for it. The alternative is to end up starving in the attic or getting pulled down when attempting to hammer a Z in the head. Go out through the front door. Make sure the moron who brought the Z's down on you goes first.

[CAVU45]

Okay. This one is easy. Place my gun to the back of the aszholes head and take his (which is much better than the .22lr I have in this ridiculous scenario.) Open the door and throw his silly ass to the zed waiting outside. Unass the AO through the back door after grabbing my gobag. Find the dumbass who thought up this ludicrous scenario and end his miserable existance. Ride off into the sunset with a smile of contentment on my face having rid the world of two Darwin award nominees.


Funny. You can type ass and even dumbass but not *******.

[Survivor243]

Wow come to think of it you can't say **** but you can say ****head.

Aww crap, you can't

[hotlead]

So, in this story, do we have line of sight from the attic hatch down the staircase?

If we do, then the piling up zombie bodies won't be so much of a problem. If we don't, and you have to shoot down on them or wait until their head pops up through the hatch and shoot them from inside the attic, then the bodies will pile up until the attic opening is obstructed. The zombies may just stand around until something happens, you may die of dehydration, or try to escape through any dormer windows or vents, if there are any.

In any case, I don't think hiding in the attic with your new friend is a great idea, besides, the smell of rotting bodies will get pretty bad in the attic with a house full of dead guys.

[mattifikation]

Another option might be to disarm the intruder, then give him a few crippling wounds to keep him from being able to run or fight. Then you could use him as bait to lure the zombies to one side of the house while you bail out the other side.