[False God]

One of my friends does biathlons and he lat me use his gun once and I must say that it was stunningly easy to use. These guns are designed to be as light as possible, as accurate as possible, and use the easily available 22LR bullet. My friends was bolt action but all you had to do was pull back the bolt, there was no twisting involved that would take time.

The main point is these things are made for people travelling long distances needing high preformance.

This is called "fortner": here is what a site said it meant "Patented fortner straight pull action with repeating device allows very fast repeating. important seconds for shooting success."

these things are rugged to a point. My friend fell on his a few times while skiing and it did not break/bend. When these guns are really delicate is when people drill a bunch of holes in them to cut down weight for competition

thoughts?

This post has been edited by False God: 03 June 2010 - 01:20 PM

[False God]

pics:




sorry for size, I don't know how to make them smaller

[FFG]

Zero experience with these rifles.

Though, the cartridge (22lr) is inadequate for zed work. Doubt if it would reliably penetrate the zed skull. Especially from any distance.

[False God]

they are quite easy to use and shoot. I think that the 22 would be able to puncture a skull for sure as long as the distance isn't too extreme

[CAVU45]

*sigh* We've had this same discussion over and over again. The .22lr simply can't consistantly make the needed shots. Therefore it isn't a good choice for zed stopping.

[zeefsranger]

FFG said:

Zero experience with these rifles.

Though, the cartridge (22lr) is inadequate for zed work. Doubt if it would reliably penetrate the zed skull. Especially from any distance.

if a .22lr can go threw a truck door, why wouldn't it go into a skull?

[CAVU45]

Consistantly.....

[Bob]

Squibs and failure to ignite.

[rowdyrugby]

zeefsranger said:

if a .22lr can go threw a truck door, why wouldn't it go into a skull?

"Normally the skull protects the brain from damage through its hard unyieldingness; the skull is one of the most durable substances found in nature with it needing the force of about 1 ton to reduce the diameter of the skull by 1 cm."


A Trooper here was telling me about how when he used to troop in detroit, he saw a 9mm go off a skull once. The guy was knocked down but lived.

[CAVU45]

I actually talked to a SWAT instructor about this subject. His response was that the .22lr could penetrate a skull, but conditions would have to be ideal and the shot near perfect.

[UNDEAD FRED]

Probilly be good for rabbits, squirls, and other varmits if you need some food.

[mattifikation]

It doesn't even look like it would be that light, anyways.

[False God]

the wood ones weigh like 7.7 lb and the composite ones weigh less
that's fairly light isn't it? considering the AK is around 9.5 lb

[Dark Gale]

Looks bulky and horribly uncomfortable.

[False God]

Dark Gale said:

Looks bulky and horribly uncomfortable.

it really isn't. those wierd block things around the barrel are made to adjust so that you put your fingers there. You tailor it to your grip and then your hand falls into the same spot every time.

[mattifikation]

7.7 lbs? That's in the AR-15 weight range.

If you want a light rifle, Kel-Tec's SU-16 weighs in between 3.7 pounds and 5 pounds, depending on which model you get.