[kiltedninja]

Thats what I meant yeah.

[guinnessman]

pfffffff. smarts, brawn, all that matters is how much ammo you have. :) But in all seriousness, I'd say that both have their purpose, and one needs the other to survive.

[kiltedninja]

Again, I've been saying that since the beginning.

[hotlead]

Lian said:

Intelligence and education are not the same thing. This is true. However that doesn't make them exist in separate realms where they don't interact with each other. Education is the cultivating and growth of Intelligence. Intelligence by it's Websters definition is something to the effect of the ability to learn and apply information. And in my said example of the Jock getting the PHD, if he wasn't able to apply the information that he learned to get said diploma he wouldn't have gotten it to begin with. Unfortunately getting a PHD isn't as simple as regurgitating facts and figures onto a multiple choice scantron as you seem to imply. Whether he chooses to apply what he knows or not is down to personal preference, and again comes back to how you a lot your time.

More to the basis of survival of a Zombie Apocalypse, who knows if that PHD would have even been worth the time in the end. While education is important so to is the type of education, and unfortunately how the Socratic method of teaching that is currently in use worldwide what you do is spend more and more time learning more and more about less and less. It's safe to say that a PHD in the behavioral sciences of a remote and extinct culture is going to be less useful than a Engineering degree in that scenario. However the act of getting the PHD exercises the mind making it more easily able to adapt, learn and wrap itself around new scenarios if the person is willing. Which comes to another point that most people who actually take the time to pursue a PHD don't really need to have that much education they do it to be snooty arrogant and superior to the Jones family. And gives credence to the belief that more education makes people smarter. Which wasn't the point I was really ever getting at I was getting at education being the exercise of the mind to develop intelligence. It becomes clear to me that I didn't illustrate that point in the beginning but back then I didn't care enough to make sure my point was clear.




Truth be told I'm not really sure where your going here. If you want to talk about Reading Comprehension "Smart" is a slang term used to denote the word intelligence in circles a word with as many syllables as Intelligence is seen as an unwelcome gesture because it requires the exercise of a few neurons to get it past your lips. In other words they mean the same thing.

Best case scenario I think your talking about the difference between street smarts and book smarts. And aside from where the lessons came from the result are usually still the same, granted the book smarts comes to you harder, especially in terms of a crises where personal experience is a more welcome movement as apposed to theory crafting you've only read about in a book. So what that really translates out too is that in a emergency situation your mind automatically checks the street smarts side of the road first because the experience was personal and therefore more memorable. It's also easier to act from this state of mind because the body will remember the last action taken and emulate it. Perhaps one of the last vestiges of human instinct. Then of course the other side of the road is book smarts, this information is usually harder to reproduce in a life or death scenario however if the street smart side of the road fails the mind comes here. Usually when you see this you'll see the people "Frozen by Panic." because they don't have past experience to base their actions off of but are uncomfortable with using the knowledge they've only read about thinking that it is less meaningful.

However what this really comes down to is providing you don't get caught in a mental loop and end up waiting around to die because of the bridge between theory crafting and Personal Experience and die there. Once you get a chance for things to slow down you can once again make use of the book smart side of the street at your leisure which in a lot of ways is actually better for long term survival than your personal experience says I run away from bad things street smarts ever will be.



This I'm more sure is a comment on book smarts as apposed to street smarts. And again aside from differences in the way the mind perceives the information, and the way those two parts of the mind interact with their environment they really aren't that different. There is also some of the misconception that Intelligence = Knowledge here I think though here it's more of an undertone. You just didn't really make a long enough statement for me to be sure on that.

Is that Chinese or Eye-talian yore a talkin', you shore ain't a speakin' english, not like what we does. You like t' use big words an' such in them fancy speeches of yourn, actin' like a pro-fessor from one o' them big yooniversities. Y'see son, we don't cotton to no book learnin' 'round here, that what ya didn't learn whilst sweat was on yer brow don't need a knowin', I tell you what.

This post has been edited by hotlead: 08 September 2009 - 07:55 AM

[CAVU45]

Lian said:

Truth be told I'm not really sure where your going here. If you want to talk about Reading Comprehension "Smart" is a slang term used to denote the word intelligence in circles a word with as many syllables as Intelligence is seen as an unwelcome gesture because it requires the exercise of a few neurons to get it past your lips. In other words they mean the same thing.

Best case scenario I think your talking about the difference between street smarts and book smarts.

"Smart" has many definitions depending on usage, and not just as a slang term denoting ones intelligence. "Smart" has also been used to describe those "educated idiots" who are full of book learning or knowledge but have no idea how to apply that knowledge, or who simply lack the common sense that more intelligent people seem to have. I'm also well aware of the definitions and differences between "book smart" and "street smart", but thank you for the refresher anyway.

[zombiekilling101]

survial of the fitest means who can adapt to survive....so fittest. thus the term.

[ZombieBruce]

As said, i think the first people to die will be the physically fit and mentally weak. you can not fight a swarm with strength alone. strength will only get you so far but intelligence, wit, and the ability to think calmly yet quickly is what keeps us ahead of the zombies. altough i see were your getting the idea that the physically strong can be a advantage the fact that intelligence is what makes humans on top will be what carries us through WWZ not a bunch of muscleheads.

[zombiekilling101]

fittest is a combo of both strengh and smarts. have to take someones smarts and strenght out of equation. survival of the fittest isnt about that....like i said it would be the person that could adapt.

[ZombieBruce]

of course.

Addaption is part of human nature just like intelligence.

[Hello Ladies and Gentlemen]

It goes ways everyone should be fit but you should also be well edumacted

[Hello Ladies and Gentlemen]

CAVU45 said:

There's no such thing as luck. Only variables that help to decide an outcome.

AKA luck..... derr

[CAVU45]

Stankynuts said:

AKA luck..... derr

Known as that by those who don't know how to work the variables.

[J Dub]

some interesting reading in this thread.

one thing all of us have is the ability to adapt. common sense will keep you alive longer than high IQ's imo. a higher IQ combined with ample amounts of common sense and good physical conditioning will be preferable to extremes in smarts or brawn.

lust look at the educational backgrounds of those who run our countries, goes to show education doesn't parlay into common sense.:loon:

adaptability will hold the highest sway in any one mans/woman's survival. coming together will benefit the weakest most, at the beginning but in time coming together is the only thing that will keep us alive.

weak or strong, dumb or smart, there will be roles filled equally well by those who adapt.

[zombiekilling101]

quote me if your going to say the exact same thing. just messing with you.

[ZombieBruce]

thats the best combination

[Bob]

If intelligence is a factor in survival in the ZPAW then a lot of you guys that hang out here are in deep doo doo.

[DarthJoe8]

This place is great!! :lol:

[kiltedninja]

DarthJoe8 said:

This place is great!! :lol:

I think it's actually quite terrible. It's like a magnet for stupid people. But I'm not claiming to be the smartest guy around either. It was an accident that led me to this site though.

[Bob]

I think I got in a fight the first week I was here.
I was involved in several epic battles then VJ came along and got in a string of them also.

What is up these days?
I mean I say 1 slightly harsh thing to a user and he starts crying and leaves.

If you can't run with the big dogs stay on the porch.

Brains and Brawn are needed to survive.

[ZombieBruce]

i love this site why go on a site and say ot sucks when your the one on it dumbass