[Noc]

Yes, that would be tremendously awesome:love:
fill it with some food bit of water and you're good to go lol

[detpat]

i also know where there are restored t34/85's for sale. there are several armor for sale sites around the net. lots of good stuff for sale here in the states.

[Noc]

detpat said:

i also know where there are restored t34/85's for sale. there are several armor for sale sites around the net. lots of good stuff for sale here in the states.

nice
i dont know if you could get stuff like that in AUS but:cry:
it's hard enough to get an air rifle

[hotlead]

Chaos Nightbringer said:

Okay, we'll just drop you right in the middle of a bunch of zombies and see how well you can kill all of them with headshots before you get eaten. You don't always have time for headshots, pal, and getting perfect with a gun takes more time than you have in the middle of Armageddon. Aiming, reloading, and even pulling the trigger takes time. Zombies use that time. When headshots will be unreasonable, shoot their legs to pulp and stomp on their heads as you go by.

You think standing in the middle of a bunch of zombies with an MG42 that goes through a 200rd belt in 8.5 seconds( figured at 1,400rpm, not the max 1,600rpm= 200rds/7.5sec ) trying to "pulp" zombie legs is more realistic?

Besides, why would we be standing in the middle of a bunch of zombies? We should be using our brains and not getting cornered/surrounded in the first place. Using common sense and basic tactics shouldn't be too hard against relatively brain-dead zombies that don't shoot back.

Yes, getting perfect with a rifle takes more time than someone has during armageddon, that's why I assume you're practicing now, so you don't have to learn on the job.

[detpat]

my comment on the subject included rate reducers to make the mg42 more manageable, or even another lmg or gpmg i also didn't mention standing in the middle of a huge crowd of zeds.

what i was saying is that the grazing fire technique could be adapted to zeds who is to say when you might need to dispose of a large number of them, I'm sure you can think of some scenario's where this might be advantageous or even necessary

[hotlead]

No worries detpat, I quoted chaos nightbringer and was responding to him. He's the one who wants to drop people in the middle of a big group of zombies and see how they'd do at getting away, apparently that's the only way to judge someones opinion of a weapon.

Belt fed MGs have their place in a situation, just like any weapon today. The combined arms doctrine goes from the top all the way down to fire teams, it's the most effective way to fight. Lots of folks want the perfect weapon for all situations, but that weapon doesn't exist yet, some of us here know that already( I guess nobody told McNamarra ). So, we have lots of different tools in the tool box to get the job done, some tools are better at doing a specific job than others.

This post has been edited by hotlead: 12 April 2009 - 11:51 AM

[detpat]

outstanding post, absolutely correct!

[Assassin42]

Winchester 94 in .30-30

Should be able to cast bullets from lead for reloading no problem, unlike more modern weapons that have issues with soft lead projectiles.

Back up weapon maybe a good old fashioned mace or battle axe.

[steve2071]

I would pick the M1 Carbine as my primary
A 1911 as my secondary
Winchester Model 12 as my shotgun
Springfield 1903 with a scope as my precision rifle

Drive it all around in a GPW Jeep.


Antique tacticool.

[kiltedninja]

M-14 as my primary
1911 as my secondary
An old M-7 bayonet on the end of that M-14 and Id be one happy man.

[Brute773]

My Older Brother(26) is in the military and has an M1 Garand, me not being much younger than him, i have shot it alot, and it uses 30-06 rounds, which if you didnt know is a civilian round that you can find in most gun stores, shops ect, but it has an hell of a kick, and will bruise your shoulder up alot!



i personally would go with an Mosin-Nagant, mainly because they're extremely cheap, go to a gun shop, that has the Magazine called "Shotgun News" they sell Mosin-Nagants for 40-100 us dollars, it shoots 7.62x54r, remember the r stands for Rimmed, Not Russian, you buy a box of 700 hundred rounds off of most military surplus sites for about 70 bucks.

[massacre07]

oh gimme a ol 97 in 45-70 and a schofield and I'll be just fine

[homelitexl]

massacre07, on 02 January 2012 - 02:35 PM, said:

oh gimme a ol 97 in 45-70 and a schofield and I'll be just fine

here here brother id rather have my colt walker and a trapdoor rifle though

[Veldro]

mattifikation, on 23 March 2009 - 01:31 AM, said:

World War II ended before the fifties. :-p


I'd probably take a pair of 1911's and a Winchester Model 12 in the trench gun configuration.

1911's all the way!

[bellasboytoy]

smith and wesson victory model with a 7 inch barrel 38. special and model 1897 12 gauge which i own one of both

[mattifikation]

I wonder why I decided to choose "a pair of 1911s?"

[Bob]

Classic choice.
Pair of Nickle plated 1911s with Mother of Pearl grips.

[mattifikation]

It doesn't seem like a very practical choice, though. I revise my selection, I'd rather have a Browning Hi-Power.

[OVERKILL]

kiltedninja, on 23 March 2009 - 05:29 PM, said:

the_velociraptor said:

Say, that, for some reason, you have no access to any weapons that could be considered "current" (say, anything after the fifties).


It'll mainly focus on firearms, but, whatever.


-For example, could modern ammo still work with some weapons? (I've heard that some present day ammo would damage some weapons)

-Other than the obvious, what shifts in anti-zed tactics would occur from this?

-Yes, opinion varies, but what weapon(s) would you consider the best for anti-zombie tactics?

-And, of course, the obligatory "what's the worse for fighting them off" question.

In terms of WW1 and WW2 weapons, most modern ammo was created during the latter war, so I don't think that newer munitions would damage the weapons(SMLE and Springfield '03, as well as Mauser 98& 98K would be fine). I think that most anything that fires a 9x19 would be okay with modern ammo, most Lever action and revolvers from the late 1800's would be fine, since most of the ammunition is still made.


Tactics: I think if you were using WW1 rifles and weapons, a static defence like a wall or barricade would help, or extreme range, CQC is always a bad idea with Zack, but once you add the low ammo capacity of WW1 rifles(And most bolt action rifles), there's a little problem. As WW2 rolled around, the M1 showed up, and the Thompson, both are fantastic guns, which could allow you a little closer, but why get that close?


Opinion: In my opinion, I'd take an M1 Garand, Thompson, and the Browning HP or the 1911.


Worst(IMO): Stehngun. Carcano, anything that was used before the Civil War.

What's wrong with the Carcano? 6 rounds as opposed to 5 with most WWI/WWII bolt actions, en blocs are a tad faster than stripper clips in my experience, and they eject out the bottom with no "ping".

Chaos Nightbringer, on 10 April 2009 - 11:17 PM, said:

hotlead said:

Spraying masses of Zombies with lead isn't what we're looking for, a nice clean .30cal hole in the middle of the forehead gets it done every time :)

Okay, we'll just drop you right in the middle of a bunch of zombies and see how well you can kill all of them with headshots before you get eaten. You don't always have time for headshots, pal, and getting perfect with a gun takes more time than you have in the middle of Armageddon. Aiming, reloading, and even pulling the trigger takes time. Zombies use that time. When headshots will be unreasonable, shoot their legs to pulp and stomp on their heads as you go by.

Getting perfect with a gun does take time, that's why you start training NOW not when the threat of being eaten alive arises. I'd be willing to bet a guy with a 50 caliber flintlock muzzle loader and a pocket knife that's used them his whole life would fare a lot better than an idiot who just picked up a weapon for the first time and picked it out because it was tacticool.

On the subject of using current production ammunition in old guns, you will be fine as long as the gun is in good shape and you steer clear of +P ammo. If you look at the maximum PSI rating of all the old blackpowder cartridges they are extremely low. SAAMI does this so if new ammunition is put in an old gun it will still be safe.

[detpat]

true enough!