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Old 07-22-2008, 02:50 PM
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I was wanting to test my skills and see if I would be ready to lead people in the days of the zombie apocalypse. So i set out and found some targets that were made for just that, and as you all can see I did just fine. Well enough that I can safely say that I could lead a squad of men down ally ways in the middle of the night and only loss one or two.
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Old 07-22-2008, 05:18 PM
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I hate to be the one to bust your balls over this, but its better that it happens now, instead of you getting yourself (or worse, someone else) killed by you being overly (read stupidly) confident in your own skills. There is a lot more to leadership than being able to shoot paper on a gun range. The scenario you said you're competent to lead people through is nothing like where you were shooting, as I'm willing to bet you were shooting in broad daylight, and at known distances. Also, its hard to get a good adrenaline rush while shooting menacing paper, which makes shooting a little bit more of a challenge. So before you volunteer yourself to be the savior of the modern world, may I humbly suggest you put a little more thought into your plans.

You want a better picture of your shooting skills on Z day, go do a couple of 40 yard dashes in the woods, around 11pm during a new moon (or a really cloudy night) without the aid of a flashlight, and then pop off some rounds at that same target.

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Old 07-22-2008, 09:16 PM
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Yeah, do what he said. Except do it while dozens of people are trying to eat you.
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:11 PM
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...yeah, what they said.

Plus, I don't think it's a prerequisite for a leader to be a great shot. He just has to be a great leader.
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Old 07-22-2008, 11:20 PM
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I was wanting to test my skills and see if I would be ready to lead people in the days of the zombie apocalypse. So i set out and found some targets that were made for just that, and as you all can see I did just fine. Well enough that I can safely say that I could lead a squad of men down ally ways in the middle of the night and only loss one or two.
Just because you can shoot, that does NOT mean you can lead. This is the reason I would not follow you.... You should know that without me telling you. Sorry I can shoot better.
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Old 07-23-2008, 02:27 AM
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Here are a set of "zombie drills" i've practiced before at the range. This is an unoffical range exercise and I kind of dread how long its gonna take to copy onto here but its a gooder and i'd like to share it with anyone here who can appreciate it. Keep in mind this was with a bunch of fully competant troops, a very openminded RSO and all drills were practiced dry in advance. As usual proper safety procedures are paramount.

Conducted 2-4 lanes at a time with 1xARSO for each shooter.
Loadout: Rifle: 3x20 rd mags. Pistol: 1x12 rd & 2x6 rd mags(ARSO holds 3rd mag...you'll see why later)
Targets: 4 foot screen with 2xfig.11 & 2x handheld fig.11

200m 4 foot screen with two fig.11(man size targets). Rifle and 1st mag lay at firing point side by side. Load 12 rd pistol mag but don't ready. Holster.

Ser.1: Do 50 squats & 25 pushups. Move up to rifle. Adopt prone pos. Load and ready 1st mag. 4 left & 4 right. Adopt kneeling pos.

Ser.2: From the kneeling pos. 3 left & 3 right. Adopt Standing Pos.

Ser.3: From standing pos. 3 left & 3 right. Reload, ready and prepare to move.

Rifles at the alert pos. When targets come up ARSOs control a run up to the 100m point.

100m 4 foot screen with two fig.11(man size targets).

Ser.4: Immediatly adopting the prone pos. 3 left & 3right. Adopt kneeling pos.

Ser.5: From the kneeling pos. 3 left & 3 right. Adopt Standing Pos.

Ser.6: From standing pos. 4 left & 4 right. Reload, ready and prepare to move.

Advance in the alert position to 50m.

50m 4 foot screen with two fig.11(man size targets).

Walking from 50m to 25m conduct RSO controlled serials of 2 left & 2 right.

Ser.7 At the walk. On the order "UP." 2 left & 2 right.

Ser.8 At the walk. On the order "UP." 2 left & 2 right.

Ser.9 At the walk. On the order "UP." 2 left & 2 right.

25m 4 foot screen with two fig.11(man size targets).

Ser.10 Standing alert pos. On the order "UP." Short burst Left & Right.

Advance at the alert pos to 15m.

15m 4 foot screen with two fig.11(man size targets).

Ser.11 Standing Alert Pos. On the order "UP." Short bursts Left & Right. Mag runs dry. Conduct Immediate Action and transition to pistol. Ready pistol. Scan for targets. No targets.

15m 2x handheld fig.11(man size targets).

Ser.12 Standing Alert Pos. On the order "UP." Doubletap left.

Ser.13 Standing Alert Pos. On the order "UP." Doubletap left.

Ser.14 Standing Alert Pos. On the order "UP." 4 left.

Advance at the Standing Alert Pos to 10m.

10m 2x handheld fig.11(man size targets).

Ser.15 Standing Alert Pos. On the order "UP." 4 left. Pistol runs dry. Conduct Immediate Action, reload(6 rd mag) & ready. Scan. No target.

Mozambique Drill: Doubletap to the body & 1 aimed shot to the head.

Ser.16 Standing Alert Pos. On the order "UP." Mozambique Right.

Ser.17 Standing Alert Pos. On the order "UP." Mozambique Right. Mag runs dry. Conduct Immediate Action. No more mags. ARSO tosses the last 6 rd mag in front of your feet. Adopt Kneeling Pos and reload. Scan. No target.

Ser.18 Kneeling Alert Pos. On the order "UP." Mozambique Right.

Ser.19 Kneeling Alert Pos. On the order "UP." Mozambique Right. Mag runs dry. Conduct Immediate Action. ARSOs clear shooters.

And thats the show. Shit that took way to long to copy out of my range book:(
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:03 AM
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John , that sounds like a good drill. I need to become an RSO at the range I go to mostly to do stuff like this on days the range is closed.

to the Op , this is the most dangerious thing I've shot at . it still doesn't come close to shooting at zombies trying to eat you.



headshot BTW .

better pic.
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Old 07-23-2008, 01:52 PM
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I never said that I could lead man kind, nor be it's savior. All I said was lead a squad. Maybe that means I am in charge, BUT it could also mean I'm at the front of the line. You know "leading", maybe I trust my skills enuff put myself in harm way first. So there is no reason to go ripping my head off. Let me guess your also the type of man that takes the Bible literally I bet you think there was a boat with two of every animal on it.
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:55 PM
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I'm an atheist and even I found your first post to be naive. A lot of people can shoot guns and just because you can hit a piece of paper in the same spot a few times doesn't mean that people will look up to you and trust you enough to lead them through zombie infested territory. Leadership is based on good decision making and the thought of leading a group through zombie infested territory in the first place and only losing 1-2 members would get you out of the leadership position rather quickly.
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:04 PM
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First off, let me say that I think you should take your religious attacks elsewhere. I'd like to ask other posters to simply not answer your question. It has nothing to do with zombie survival and really just came out of thin stupid air.

Second, it's clear to everyone that you were saying you could be the leader of a group. You didn't say "go in first," you said "lead." It was your own choice of words, so don't whine when people can't read your mind - or should I say, back peddle when people refute what you said?

Third, if you lost one or two men just going down one dark alley, then you'd have made a huge screw up anyways. I'd be following the guy who didn't lose anybody, thank you.
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:32 PM
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Well i have to agree with what's already been said, losing group member by walking down an alleyway, please! Dude, that is bad leadership in any ones game. As for your shooting ability, well that's good for you, but if you're leading ( in the lead, taking the lead ) who's covering your rear?
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:48 PM
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I don't go ripping people's heads off when they don't deserve it, and I haven't yet, but yet is coming.

To post a picture of a shotup paper target, and then proclaim that you're "ready to lead people in the days of the zombie apocalypse," is at best extremely naive, but probably much closer to full blown moronic. For your sake, I hope you're 18, fresh out of high school, and young enough that your bad judgment can be chocked up to immaturity. To then come back and post up some backpedaling drivel about "Oh, well I meant to take the point position" means you either think I'm dumb enough to buy that tripe, or that you are a spineless weakling that can't take constructive criticism. Yes, I do consider my first post (and most of the other posts in the this thread) constructive criticism. How? Simple, I verbally slapped you upside your head, to get your attention, and then proceeded to explain the error of your ways in small, simple terms, and then offer a solution, as did several others. You responded with that spineless, back pedaling drivel and a pointless attack. Frankly, from what I've seen so far, I wouldn't let you lead a pack of horny college freshmen to a whore house in Mexico.
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Old 07-23-2008, 06:57 PM
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Maybe he could lead the zombies instead? Nobody would complain if one or two of them got killed in every alley he took them down.
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Maybe he could lead the zombies instead? Nobody would complain if one or two of them got killed in every alley he took them down.
except maybe the ones in back... the zombies who only got left an eyeball, a pinkie, and a clavicle with hardly any meat.
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Default Aim for the forehead! I think not.

I have heard a lot about the .22 and how it is probably an able to penetrate the forehead because the skull is too thick. Now, we're talking about zombies here, correct? Zombies are motorized instinct. There are certain parts of the brain that controls certain parts of you. People have been impaled through the skull and survived with the only result being dementia. So aiming for the head, though key, will not always do the job. Behind the forehead are parts of the brain that control the conscious and mental activities. If you damage these (with a zed), you probably won't kill it. Now you can do all the research in the world and disagree with me here, but I would think that the best place to aim for would be the cerebellum & brain stem. These control balance, movement, and instinctual activities. If you shoot the zombie in the face (The eyes, nose, and that general area) where the skill is not as thick and for the eyes and nose not even there, you have a better chance at striking these parts of the brain. You could even do that with a .22!
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