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Old 06-30-2008, 02:59 PM
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Do any of you think that it would be a good or bad idea to hold a zed captive to experiment on it e.g. looking for easy ways to kill them, easy ways to incapacitate them, study them etc.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:23 PM
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Watch "day of the dead", 'nuff said.
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:22 PM
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yea lets avoid that just observe them closely let live subjects go to more skilled military scientists.
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:19 PM
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I haven't seen day of the dead and I don't think military scientists would be alive.
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:32 PM
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Well you would need some good metal chain chained to a wall for starters. Make sure you measure the chains length and mark with ducktape that wear the zed can reach to. Also if your going to go near him wear a heavy jacket or preferable some body armor of like kevlar of some sort. Keep the Zed its own room with the door heavily locked and bolted. Have a gun by your side at all times when observing him.

That should be what you need to know to keep a Zed as a pet.
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:44 PM
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what he aid only, why keep Z's as pets they aren't exactly cute 'n cuddly.
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*pet vioce* Oh but there so sweet. Look at that face how could you say there not cute 'N' cudley
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I don't think its a good idea and I don't think anyone would learn much unless they already have some type of medical, or biological degree under their belt.
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Old 07-01-2008, 01:28 AM
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Unless you have a very good reason to hold captive a "live" zombie(want to autopsy one to find exactly how they tick in a search for a cure or something like that) I don't think it's worth the trouble or the risk. Personally, I really don't expect to have the time, resources, or personnel with the proper medical background to make much use of a live specimen.

If you want to find out the best way, or the worst way, to kill/incapacitate them, just pay close attention when you're shooting 'em. Not every shot you fire is going hit them in the head, so watch how they react to being shot in the torso, hip, or leg. I'm sure you'll have lots of opportunity for in-the-field study.
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I think a study about zed decomposition rate through different combinations of microorganisms would be very useful. Perhaps to come up with a "fast rot" chemical catalyst or some sort of spore colonies or bacteria that could be weaponized and used against them. Something like VX (physically, not in effect), a persistent gunk that lasts for awhile on the field and damages or destroys zeds in time. It's not my field, but I've translated a couple of papers on microbiology for a university project and bioessays are not all that complicated as long as you can isolate the variables successfully, and that's about being methodical and having an understanding of what you're trying to do.

But for that, one would only need fresh tissue samples, not a "live" specimen. Then again, maybe whatever's keeping them moving is also slowing down decomp, hard to say.
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I think a study about zed decomposition rate through different combinations of microorganisms would be very useful. Perhaps to come up with a "fast rot" chemical catalyst or some sort of spore colonies or bacteria that could be weaponized and used against them. Something like VX (physically, not in effect), a persistent gunk that lasts for awhile on the field and damages or destroys zeds in time. It's not my field, but I've translated a couple of papers on microbiology for a university project and bioessays are not all that complicated as long as you can isolate the variables successfully, and that's about being methodical and having an understanding of what you're trying to do.

But for that, one would only need fresh tissue samples, not a "live" specimen. Then again, maybe whatever's keeping them moving is also slowing down decomp, hard to say.
Wow...you sure have access to a lot of resources to be able to conduct all that research and be able to develop biological weaponry. Congrats.

I want to be in your group if this ever goes down.
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:14 AM
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I don't have them, but any university and some high school labs have all the materials necesary. I doubt people will be raiding those. You can also get them in specialized stores which again, are not useful to most people and will probably be left almost intact. The microbe samples could come from the zombie tissue itself. Bioweapons don't require much technology to produce them (that's why we hear about them being developed by third world countries and even terrorist groups in the news), you can culture many microbes on milk/egg derivates. Delivery systems do however, but since zombies don't use weapons and they're supposed to work in breaking down dead tissue (living tissue should be fine) we wouldn't need to launch it in bombs or missiles and simple spray should suffice.

Isolating the microbes and gene splicing, causing mutations whew, that takes some very powerful computers, lots of know-how and rare equipment, not to mention extensive expertise, but the idea isn't to MAKE them, just breed the ones that are already there artificially. It's like growing clostridium botulinum without the hard part of extracting botulinum toxin.
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I think a study about zed decomposition rate through different combinations of microorganisms would be very useful. Perhaps to come up with a "fast rot" chemical catalyst or some sort of spore colonies or bacteria that could be weaponized and used against them. Something like VX (physically, not in effect), a persistent gunk that lasts for awhile on the field and damages or destroys zeds in time. It's not my field, but I've translated a couple of papers on microbiology for a university project and bioessays are not all that complicated as long as you can isolate the variables successfully, and that's about being methodical and having an understanding of what you're trying to do.

But for that, one would only need fresh tissue samples, not a "live" specimen. Then again, maybe whatever's keeping them moving is also slowing down decomp, hard to say.
I don't think thats too bad of an idea, pretty sensible. Create a syrem or Toxin that you could use to melt down the zombies instantaneously either by an arial attack and throwing it down or go in on foot with chemical/radiation suits and put the toxin the the weed killer containers and do it that way.
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:30 AM
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Ha ha lol, this is great . I didn't think that people would be thinking of toxins and biological weapons. All I had to think of was to find an easy way to kill the f******s perhaps then we would be able to find the best CQB weapon. Carry on.
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:43 AM
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Ha ha lol, this is great . I didn't think that people would be thinking of toxins and biological weapons. All I had to think of was to find an easy way to kill the f******s perhaps then we would be able to find the best CQB weapon. Carry on.
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