12 gauge vs. 20 gauge

[Tripoli]

I’ve been shooting scatterguns for many years and anything I’ve been able to do with my 12 gauge I’ve been able to do with my 20 gauge equally well.

I don’t believe a shotgun should be any person’s primary anti-zombie weapon. I do believe that a shotgun is an asset to have in a fire team or as a backup weapon.

1. What is your opinion on “12 gauge vs. 20 gauge”?
2. Is the extra shot of the 12 gauge worth the weight?
3. Is the availability of a 12 gauge better than a 20?
4. Can you do the same damage with a 12 gauge or a 20?
5. Autoloader vs. Pump vs. Twin Barrels vs. Single Shot?
6. Should you have a scattergun at all?

[jagus12]

I think Ill just grab everything I get in my range, but if I have to choose, I guess Ill just stick to an AK-47 or M16

[Tripoli]

Originally Posted by jagus12

I think Ill just grab everything I get in my range, but if I have to choose, I guess Ill just stick to an AK-47 or M16

I think you will die a slow painful death because you lack the skill to read and comprehend the thread. There is another place to talk about AKs and 16s, it's not here.

[jagus12]

Originally Posted by Tripoli

I think you will die a slow painful death because you lack the skill to read and comprehend the thread. There is another place to talk about AKs and 16s, it's not here.

Oh, sorry
Anyway, in a world dominated by zombies, you wont have a lot of time to reload your weapon so I think ill use a 12 gauge

[Tripoli]

Cool, I better learn to control my RAGE or I might kill survivors. . . LOL

jagus12 - "Ill think ill survive, if I can contain my homicidal rage (let me explain myself, after killing lots of zombies I may go ****ing insane kill everything, including survivors , I hope that doesn't happen) "

[jagus12]

Originally Posted by Tripoli

Cool, I better learn to control my RAGE or I might kill survivors. . . LOL

jagus12 - "Ill think ill survive, if I can contain my homicidal rage (let me explain myself, after killing lots of zombies I may go ****ing insane kill everything, including survivors , I hope that doesn't happen) "

Umm, what? I didn't write that anywhere anyway

EDIT: Im so sorry , that was my friggin brother, he's always trying to make me look like a psycho or something, the sick bastard, goddamnit!!!

[detpat]

20 gauge is pretty efficient, it has 3/4 the payload for 1/2 the recoil. availability is the biggest issue, next time you go to wally world check for 20 gauge ammo.

20's work well for smaller people and people with slighter builds.

[Hitman]

I'll stick with 12ga. I have the most ammo for it and a better selection of it. also my 20 GA it not built nearly as robustly as my 12ga's are. the recoil and weight would make it a better choise for a smaller person or a female. they tend to be smaller guns anyway with quite a few being termed "youth" .

as for action type. I have both pumps and auto's , both function equaly as well with a slight nod going to the pump . the autos are faster when follow up shots are needed and /or motor skills go to hell. the double barrel and single shot are a big disadvantage .

to bring up the ammo supply again , go to wall mart . they will have quite a few boxes of each but while 95% of the 20ga will be birdshot the remainder will be slugs or very small buckshot. neither of which I thing will give any advantge to the shotgun over even a decent rifle (like a marlin .30-30) . the 12 ga shelf will have tons more birdshot (bulk 100rd boxes here) but there will be buckshot up to 000 and slugs . then there are the specailty rounds like door breeching rounds , flechettes , dragons breath , marine flares, etc .

I still see the shotgun as a door breecher and backup not much else

[detpat]

I'd have to agree mostly. The wallmarts in my area don't cerry any 20 gauge ammo at all.

[Zombie_215]

1. What is your opinion on “12 gauge vs. 20 gauge”?
2. Is the extra shot of the 12 gauge worth the weight?
3. Is the availability of a 12 gauge better than a 20?
4. Can you do the same damage with a 12 gauge or a 20?
5. Autoloader vs. Pump vs. Twin Barrels vs. Single Shot?
6. Should you have a scattergun at all?

1 & 3. Both are good guns, but I am leaning towards the 12 gauge, because of availability.

2. I didn't realize you get an extra shot.

4. I always thought the 12 gauge was the more powerful of the two, but I might be wrong.

5. Pump action is the way to go. (In my opinion) From what I have read autoloaders jam way to often for my liking! Twin barrels and the single shot would be faster to reload, but I would feel more comfortable with more than one or two shots, before needing to reload.

6. It is a good backup weapon and it would be a good choice if you are surrounded and need to make some room.

[Tripoli]

"Shot" is a collective term for small balls of lead. It is used primarily as projectiles in shotguns. If you don't know what "SHOT" is, don't post! (12 ga holds more "SHOT" than a 20ga.)

[jim96sc2]

Assuming you can get ammo in equal availibilities: 20g, you can carry more. But since the world isn't always fair, get the 12.

[Victor Clark]

Since I'm a small guy, I'll try to get a 20 gauge if I can. Although from my experience with shotguns, the more affective and lethal shots would have to be made from a closer range to a zombie, which could be a dangerous position to be in; however, powerful guns are still good and close to my heart, so I'll probably have a shotgun by my side when the dead rise.

[Augustus Desius]

I'm gonna have to go with the 20 gauge, as I don't have any experience with shotguns and I imagine the recoil is a bit much for me as of now. I'll just have to hope for better.

The extra weight would likely not be worth it, as I imagine they both have fairly equal destructive potential when aimed at the head. In terms of anti-human, 12's would likely be better as they may be wearing bullet proof vests, and the extra energy will be enough to knock them back and maybe out.

I don't know anything about their availability.

I would either like a pump or lever action, as I think their operation is simple and safe. Also, auto anythings tend to lock up at the worst time.

I shouldn't own one, but someone who knows how to use one effectively should acquire one as a back up or anti-human weapon (in case of raids and such). I'll stick to handguns and mid-range rifles.

[Cortexx]

1. What is your opinion on “12 gauge vs. 20 gauge”?
2. Is the extra shot of the 12 gauge worth the weight?
3. Is the availability of a 12 gauge better than a 20?
4. Can you do the same damage with a 12 gauge or a 20?
5. Autoloader vs. Pump vs. Twin Barrels vs. Single Shot?
6. Should you have a scattergun at all?

1. 12 gauge.
2. I dont think the weight is to bad so I would still stick with the extra shot.
3. I live in the sticks and and you can get ANY ammo here even in the ONLY gas station we have lol.
4. I'm going for the head shot so I dont care about damange, I wont be trying to slow a Zombie down buy blowing its leg off.
5. Guess all I can say is Twin and Single would be a no go I would take eather or for the Auto or Pump.
6. In the end I would not want a scattergun i'm not a big fan of them anyway but if you use a scatter shot you will always miss with at least one and may kill a humen.