What is the best of these Weapons? (Opinion)

[Commander Ambrose]

What is the best?? I've been wondering what is the best anti-zombie weapon and I think you guys at the Forum's should decide.

[Faran Brigo]

M16 and AK47 would be both equally good, RPG absolutely and utterly sucks, and oh your god a calculator? rofl

Maybe if it was like one of those old mechanical business calculators, those look like thay can hurt.

[DarthJoe8]

Maybe a calculator would be a good idea.How else are you going to keep track of how many zombies are surrounding your safe house.

[Faran Brigo]

...what is there a formula for that? You do a head count (no pun intended).

[falcon]

m16 and ak-47 both have their strengths and weaknesses.
Ak-47 is powerful enough to knock down a zombie due to its incredible kinetic energy, but is loosely constructed, so it is inaccurate by nature. M16a4 however, is extremely accurate, and can achieve easy headshots even at 200yards. However, the 5.56 is a weak round and therefore cannot knock down a zombie as easily as an AK-47.

Personally, I would go for the new ak-103, or the barret 468.

[Faran Brigo]

...Not only is the kinetic energy difference not that large, more importantly a headshot is an instant kill, as long as it's potent enough to destroy the brain, it's enough to down the zombie. The power difference just doesn't matter.

[falcon]

Originally Posted by Faran Brigo

...Not only is the kinetic energy difference not that large, more importantly a headshot is an instant kill, as long as it's potent enough to destroy the brain, it's enough to down the zombie. The power difference just doesn't matter.

Hoever, a 5.56 cannot always be guarentted to knock down a zombie when there is a need to knok one down. Also, if you have poor aiming, then headshots can be difficult, and it would be better for you to just try and knock down the zombies and stay out of reach.

[Faran Brigo]

By simple laws of newtonian physics, it's extremely improbable to knock down an average sized man with a small arm with the force of the round alone regardless of caliber, that's just hollywood. You could stammer back a zombie with a fifty cal rifle, or a shotgun, or you could bring it down if you blow off his kneecaps, that's about it. If you have aim so poor that you can't get headshots with a carbine or rifle at close range, you're either better off with a melee weapon, or you're zombie chowder.

EDIT: Actually a .50 cal would probably bring a zed down, but I don't think a .50 sniper rifle or browning M2 machinegun are practical weapons, for plenty of reasons.

[detpat]

Small arms knockdown power is a total myth. no firearm will knock down a zombie or a live person. Sorry bit that's the unvarnished truth.

[falcon]

7.62 are enough to unbuckle your knees and knock you down.
My friend's uncle was a marine, and when he was shot by an ak-47, he said he was knocked down instantly.
He didn't fly, but was knocked off his feet.

[Faran Brigo]

That would be what most people call an urban myth. Even giving it the benefit of the doubt, IF it was true, marines wear body armor, and it probably had more to do with shock than actual kinetic energy. Again, laws of physics. You might as well have said he can fly a little, it's about as believable when you do the math. As for the KE difference:

7.62x39mm Soviet (AK-47 round) KE: 2,010 J (1495 ft.lbf)

5.56x45mm NATO (M16 round) KE: 1,775 J (1,309 ft·lbf)

A difference of less than 250 joules is NOT enough to make one round knock you down and another one not. You could have the entire USMC saying otherwise, when the leathernecks come up with a way to defy basic laws of physics they should invent antigravity devices instead of making tall tales. And I do respect the marines serving.

[detpat]

subjectively, it feels like it, but no knockdown, just a falldown. usually you get sympathetic response from your limbs and a temporary "flicker" of you central nervous system similar to what you get with a punch or concussion.

[Faran Brigo]

That's what I meant when I said "Shock", but you said it better.

[lolzombi3]

If you really want to kill a zombie, forget all those and just use the greatness of a shotgun :]

[detpat]

certainly you will have to use what you have, but a shotgun isn't the best weapon for zeds due to high recoil [not a problem for me because i love my shotties] bulky ammo and slow reloads. Not to mention low mag capacity. I would pick an ar15 variant. It's the most practical combination of features.

I hate to say such stuff because i love my shotguns, particularly my takedown 1897 and my saiga 12.