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Old 12-18-2007, 12:26 AM
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In the zombie movies the heroes are often forced to flee their safe house at some point. They take with them the essentials. Guns to kill the zombie with, clothing to keep the rating below Adult, on rare occasions food, and often a bag that either contains items that are never used or ever item that the heroes could ever possibly need. What this means is, basically, they always leave their shelter without important gear that will keep them alive.

Thus, I want to compile a list of every important thing that you would never think about grabbing when fleeing zombies. Whats missing in all the movies? Whats your list?

My list;
~Sunblock. Seriously important. Most people in western civilization are pale and not just because of their race but because of indoor jobs. Imagine how much easier it'd be running from zombies without red blistering skin?

~Water filter. When the zombies collapsed western civilization the masses forgot all about water sanitation. Use the bathroom upstream, wash clothes mid stream, and get your drinking water down stream. Good logic, right? I don't think that with zombies trying to eat our Heroes they'll be worried about where they are getting their water from and what they are putting into the water. To keep safe, they shouldn't have forgotten a water filter.

~Clothes. Have you ever noticed that in most movies clothes are wearable for the length of the movie, don't need washing, and are still as fresh as the day they were put on? After day three of running from zombies those clothes will be smelly, sweaty, and ichy. How are you supposed to fight zombies if you have to readjust your manhood between every shot?

~Basic Medical. I don't mean anything fancy of expensive. A bottle of sleep ad, some aspirin, a decongestant, and some cold medicine. Without sun screen, a water filter, and changes of clothing the risk of catching a bug is higher then surfing porn sites without a antispyware/antivirus and a firewall.

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Old 12-18-2007, 03:52 AM
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good point


i would take clothes,bottled water,water purification, ramen noodles and other non perishable foods, a knife, a tool set, a lock picking set, and a medikit
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Old 12-18-2007, 05:40 AM
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just a spare bullet - for myself.
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Old 12-18-2007, 09:57 AM
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My list;
~Sunblock. Seriously important. Most people in western civilization are pale and not just because of their race but because of indoor jobs. Imagine how much easier it'd be running from zombies without red blistering skin?

~Water filter. When the zombies collapsed western civilization the masses forgot all about water sanitation. Use the bathroom upstream, wash clothes mid stream, and get your drinking water down stream. Good logic, right? I don't think that with zombies trying to eat our Heroes they'll be worried about where they are getting their water from and what they are putting into the water. To keep safe, they shouldn't have forgotten a water filter.

~Clothes. Have you ever noticed that in most movies clothes are wearable for the length of the movie, don't need washing, and are still as fresh as the day they were put on? After day three of running from zombies those clothes will be smelly, sweaty, and ichy. How are you supposed to fight zombies if you have to readjust your manhood between every shot?

~Basic Medical. I don't mean anything fancy of expensive. A bottle of sleep ad, some aspirin, a decongestant, and some cold medicine. Without sun screen, a water filter, and changes of clothing the risk of catching a bug is higher then surfing porn sites without a antispyware/antivirus and a firewall.


Good list except for the sleep aid. Being doped up on sleep medicine doesn't seem like a good idea to me! Sleep is important, but being groggy when the zombies find you is a very bad thing!
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Old 12-18-2007, 09:15 PM
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I would bring sunblock, a Ghillie suit to hide, vinegar to hide my scent, nets to trap zombies, medkits filled with anti-septics and band-aids, a coat and maybe some extra barbed wire to keep zombies out of my camp area.
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Old 12-18-2007, 09:24 PM
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~Water filter. When the zombies collapsed western civilization the masses forgot all about water sanitation. Use the bathroom upstream, wash clothes mid stream, and get your drinking water down stream. Good logic, right? I don't think that with zombies trying to eat our Heroes they'll be worried about where they are getting their water from and what they are putting into the water. To keep safe, they shouldn't have forgotten a water filter.
"Ummm.... isn't thats suppose to be ''Use the bathroom downstream, wash clothes mid stream, and get your drinking water upstream."?
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:58 PM
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"Ummm.... isn't thats suppose to be ''Use the bathroom downstream, wash clothes mid stream, and get your drinking water upstream."?
I think he meant to say it that way to expose a survivor's stupidity.......I hope.


Another group of things survivors forget to include in their regimen are tools and suplies for their modes of transportation. If there's a movie about a convoy of survivors, the only thing that meets their concern is gasoline (even though that is a big must-have), even though they should also need oil and oil filters to keep their vehicles in check, along with air tanks for the tires and alternate modes of transport for scavenging like motorcycles and bicycles. If you're in the middle of an abandoned road with zombies surrounding your car, you don't want to be trapped there because of old oil, deflated tires, a smoking engine or the lack of an escape vehicle.
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Old 12-19-2007, 01:42 AM
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a can opener.

honestly, how basic is that one?
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Old 12-19-2007, 04:12 AM
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I think he meant to say it that way to expose a survivor's stupidity.......I hope.


Another group of things survivors forget to include in their regimen are tools and suplies for their modes of transportation. If there's a movie about a convoy of survivors, the only thing that meets their concern is gasoline (even though that is a big must-have), even though they should also need oil and oil filters to keep their vehicles in check, along with air tanks for the tires and alternate modes of transport for scavenging like motorcycles and bicycles. If you're in the middle of an abandoned road with zombies surrounding your car, you don't want to be trapped there because of old oil, deflated tires, a smoking engine or the lack of an escape vehicle.
Actually, I kinda meant that as in not checking whats going on upstream of where your getting your drinking water. In third world countries without indoor plumbing they often have improvised areas for that sort of thing with the town itself being the downstream bathroom. Its not planned out by everyone. Most people just don't want to drink bowl movements so they head up stream to get their water naturally. However, if zombies attacked, I don't think westerners would even think about whats going on upstream... which, in 99% of cases, will be highly polluted for weeks-months after Z-Day anyway (farm run off, factories, ect).

You bring up a great point on vehicles. Some times gas isn't even mentioned in the entire movies, and when it is they always forget about the endless other things needed to keep your vehicle moving fast enough to outrun zeds for long enough to get where your going. Longterm nomadic survival in a vehicle is often not practical but it is possible.
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Old 12-19-2007, 06:16 PM
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In the post-cell phone era movies you never see at least one person with a cell phone. At least it was realistic for Anna to grab her keys and jump out of the window in her pajamas in DOTD '04, but none of the other survivors had cell phones.

Sure, I might be panicking if I was at home and my cell phone is recharging and I don't think about it or have time to get it; but if I was out and about and have it on me like the majority of people, then I'd see no reason why I or others wouldn't have a cell phone.

The signals may be busy at first, but eventually you'd be able to get through to someone if they're still alive and have their cell or home phones and you or another survivor has a compatible recharger.

Other than that, unless you're prepared for any disaster and have an emergency pack in your house/car, then you're basically stuck with whatever situation you're in and have to deal with it.
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:40 PM
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dental hygenie-related. Toiletries.
And toilet paper. (Amazing a bit of toilet paper makes going to the bathroom so much more sanitary and civilized)

According to several people I know very well, dental problems, such as a toothache can cause pain so severe that you want to kill yourself to escape the pain. I had my wisdom teeth pulled several years back and I an tell you, the pain is absolutely unbearable. My parents has goes though was decayed teeth that attacked the nerves when they were children, Taiwan 1960s.

Somethings as simple and important as the toothbrush is commonly forgotten in every single non-planned outing.

And not all people are as prone to tooth decay as everyone else. I have very soft teeth, which means if I don't brush for like a week, I would get a cavity. Two days if I drink or eat anything sugary.
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Old 12-25-2007, 12:34 PM
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Uses for the P38 (can opener)
This list of P-38 uses was compiled by Steve Wilson, MSG Proponent NCO, Dept. of the Army Office of the Chief of Chaplains, The Pentagon. It is posted at the Ft. Bliss Air Defense Artillery Museum among other places:
1. Can Opener
2. Seam Ripper
3. Screwdriver
4. Clean Fingernails
5. Cut Fishing Line
6. Open Paint Cans
7. Window Scraper
8. Scrape Around Floor Corners
9. Digging
10. Clean Out Groove on Tupperware lids
11. Reach in and Clean Out Small Cracks
12. Scrape Around Edge of Boots
13. Bottle Opener
14. Gut Fish (in the field)
15. Scale Fish (in the field)
16. Test for 'Doneness' When Baking on a Camp Fire
17. Prying Items
18. Strip Wire
19. Scrape Pans in the Field
20. Lift Key on Flip Top Cans
21. Chisel
22. Barter
23. Marking Tool
24. Deflating Tires
25. Clean Sole of Boot/Shoe
26. Pick Teeth
27. Measurement
28. Striking Flint
29. Stirring Coffee
30. Puncturing Plastic Coating
31. Knocking on Doors
32. Morse Code
33. Box Cutter
34. Opening Letters
35. Write Emergency Messages
36. Scratch an Itch
37. Save as a Souvenir
38. Rip Off Rank for On-the-Spot Promotions
39. Bee sting removal tool (scrape off w/ blade)
40. Sharpen stick or pencil

Many more uses for the P38, very valuable in a survival situation I recommend to sharpen the curved blade part to help aid in gutting, cutting fish and game as I do on my P38.

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just a spare bullet - for myself.
Nah - show some spirit and use it on the last bastard that tries to bite you!! If you're being eaten by zombies you an always speed up the process by offering your jugular.
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:21 AM
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Razor, shaving cream, condom ( you never know ), batteries, all-purpose industrial strength bleach and a cat.

all the essentials for extended life, I plan on commandeering a wal-mart.

maybe a dirty magazine. (I can wash it later)
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Basically just pack like your going on a really lightweight long distance camping trip. A lot of the things mentioned above are good just think ahead and imagine how a day would look like from start to finish and think of everything that would come in useful or you need then you need to make that stuff as compact/lightweight as possible

Small tarps or clear plastic sheets!! i dont know how many times these have saved my ass from waking up soaked tent rain fly's and ground covers will not keep you dry in the rain.

extra socks!
length of rope
string or paracord
Small pot for cooking
bar of soap
Razor blade needles thread
bag of rice
lighter, waterproof matches, magnesium stick
leatherman
bivouc bag

It would be a lot like boy scouts if you had a really psycho troop
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