Notorious Longarms

[hotlead]

The problem with the Mini-14 is that folks buy them instead of an AR-15 and then complain because they don't do the things an AR does.

I bought my first Mini when they were considerably cheaper than the ARs available to me. I wanted a reliable semi-auto rifle in .223 that would hold 1/2 minute-of-pie plate groups, get bounced around in the Jeep, dragged through the brush, and not complain about being dirty or treated a little rough, and that's what I got. The fact that the ergonomics were the same as my M1As is only a plus. My Mini-14 was made in 1976, no I'm not the original owner, but I've never had a problem related to the rifle in the thousands of rounds I've put through it. The weak point with Mini's is the lack of quality aftermarket magazines, factory mags solve this problem though.

Mrs. Hotlead entered marriage with a Mini-14 of her own, and she hits what she wants to hit with it

Too many folks compare Mini's with ARs, I see them as much improved M1 Carbines. If a Mini-14 and a few factory 20s was what I had, I wouldn't feel like I didn't bring enough gun on Z-day.

[50 cal]

Mini 14's aren't too bad. Yes the accuracy is pretty iffy. The barrels are manufactured in a rush. The material is taken off in pretty big passes so that the barrel is pretty stressed. This hurts accuracy.
I had a stainless one years ago that liked Federal ammo. That was about the only kind it shot really accurate.
Only had 3 stainless mags for it. Sold the rifle back during the old Assault Weapon Ban of 94 for a healthy chunk of change.

[Trumble0]

I've got a Mosin Nagant 91/30, but shes sick theres a burr/bulge where the receiver meets the barrel so you have to like literally kick the bolt closed to chamber the round. I love it though, Ive re-blued it and Re-done the stock

Before:


Halfway Done:


After:






I like the Dark Red Mahogany stain better than the cheap Cosmoline finish it came with.

If I could get the bolt to cycle smoother by having it polished for sure I would trust my life with that gun. The Mosin Nagant has fought against itself and won in more wars than I can count... haha.

[dudeskis]

I have 2 guns at the moment and am pretty satisfied with my current arsenal.

Assault rifle that never needs cleaning and never jams.


Pistol Sig P226 one of the most reliable service pistols ever made.


The most important thing to take note of is ammo supply and availability. With rifles you need to stick with .223/.308/7.62X39 and for pistols 9mm or .45. Reason for this is that these calibers are the most widely available in all countries. People who run and get a .300WSM rifle or 5.7mm FN pistol are going to unable to find ammo post Zday.

One gun I'm looking to add to my collection when it's available is the Bushmaster ACR. They will make a model chambered in 7.62X39 that will accept standard AK mags. This will be a major accuracy upgrade over my standard AK without a loss in reliability.


I have loads of guns but have decided to focus on 9mm and 7.62X39. I only have 2 AK mags and need at least 4-5 more. With the pistol I have 5 18rd mags so I should be OK there. If I have to use my pistol that means my AK is out of bullets and I'm in trouble. Hell if I have the money I might buy 2 Bushmaster ACR rifles. All I need to do now is stockpile the 2 kinds of ammo I've chosen. I think to survive the initial sh*tstorm after Zday you need to keep in mind where you live and the population density. I live in a medium sized town 300k people so I'm shooting for a supply of 800rds pistol and 3000rds rifle. That should be enough to get us out of town and into the countryside.

What are your thoughts on ammunition streamlining and keeping it simple when it comes to your arsenal.

[Trumble0]

Originally Posted by dudeskis

...What are your thoughts on ammunition streamlining and keeping it simple when it comes to your arsenal.

I think it's a good idea, I mean I want a new rifle fairly soon. I'm looking at the Springfield M1A chambered in a .308 Right now my rifles run the gamut of calibers... I've got .30-06,.22LR, 7.62 x 39, and 7.62 x 54R and ive got a shotgun in a 12ga. and a single shot 20ga. I'd like to get a collection of rifles that I enjoy shooting in one of those calibers.

I would like a .40 caliber handgun since .40 is plentiful around here and we already have the reloading dyes for it at the reloading station in my basement.

Im thinking if I got an M1A my next rifle purchase would probably be an AR type rifle for which I'd buy a .308 upper that way both my long rifles would shoot .308 but I could carry the .223 upper because I can probably find quite a bit of that from the Police and Military.

I like a variety of calibers but in a ZPAW I'd definitely choose like 2 at the most 3 and stick with those.

I'd also be torn on whether or not to bring my 12 gauge I know everyone cites the weight of a 12 gauge shell. but a shotgun could come in handy for house clearing.

[Darkness]

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Originally Posted by dudeskis

I have 2 guns at the moment and am pretty satisfied with my current arsenal.

Assault rifle that never needs cleaning and never jams.


Pistol Sig P226 one of the most reliable service pistols ever made.


The most important thing to take note of is ammo supply and availability. With rifles you need to stick with .223/.308/7.62X39 and for pistols 9mm or .45. Reason for this is that these calibers are the most widely available in all countries. People who run and get a .300WSM rifle or 5.7mm FN pistol are going to unable to find ammo post Zday.

One gun I'm looking to add to my collection when it's available is the Bushmaster ACR. They will make a model chambered in 7.62X39 that will accept standard AK mags. This will be a major accuracy upgrade over my standard AK without a loss in reliability.


I have loads of guns but have decided to focus on 9mm and 7.62X39. I only have 2 AK mags and need at least 4-5 more. With the pistol I have 5 18rd mags so I should be OK there. If I have to use my pistol that means my AK is out of bullets and I'm in trouble. Hell if I have the money I might buy 2 Bushmaster ACR rifles. All I need to do now is stockpile the 2 kinds of ammo I've chosen. I think to survive the initial sh*tstorm after Zday you need to keep in mind where you live and the population density. I live in a medium sized town 300k people so I'm shooting for a supply of 800rds pistol and 3000rds rifle. That should be enough to get us out of town and into the countryside.

What are your thoughts on ammunition streamlining and keeping it simple when it comes to your arsenal.

[hotlead]

Originally Posted by dudeskis

What are your thoughts on ammunition streamlining and keeping it simple when it comes to your arsenal.

I think that's one of the most important aspects to your planning. We chose NATO rifle calibers, .308 and .223, and .45acp and 12ga.

I think these would be the most common and practical to use.

BTW TrumbleO, .223 and .308 uppers aren't interchangeable.

The lower on the .308 rifles have a bigger magwell and overall longer length. The .308 lowers can handle cartridges the same length as .308, like .243, 7mm-08, etc.

The standard size lowers will take uppers chambered in .223, 6.8spc, .458socom, .450Hornaday, etc.

[Trumble0]

Originally Posted by hotlead

I think that's one of the most important aspects to your planning. We chose NATO rifle calibers, .308 and .223, and .45acp and 12ga.

I think these would be the most common and practical to use.

BTW TrumbleO, .223 and .308 uppers aren't interchangeable.

The lower on the .308 rifles have a bigger magwell and overall longer length. The .308 lowers can handle cartridges the same length as .308, like .243, 7mm-08, etc.

The standard size lowers will take uppers chambered in .223, 6.8spc, .454socom, .450Hornaday, etc.

Damn that makes sense... I thought the mag Well was part of the upper... Im not sure why I suppose Ill be carrying 2 rifles then, the M1A and a .223 AR.

[y2k survivor]

All the newer "Tacticool" guns are fun and every thing. But if you want something for longer term survival you want a simpler action. Think ARs, SCARS, MASADAS and other modern rifles are all that? I have to agree they are great guns, but its hard to be the fundamentals of a bolt action.
Check this out
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/cs/Sat...he+White+Death

[Hitman]

Originally Posted by y2k survivor

All the newer "Tacticool" guns are fun and every thing. But if you want something for longer term survival you want a simpler action. Think ARs, SCARS, MASADAS and other modern rifles are all that? I have to agree they are great guns, but its hard to be the fundamentals of a bolt action.
Check this out
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/cs/Sat...he+White+Death

so your saying a 9mm submachine gun is the way to go ? can't say I disagree with you on this one , I'd pick a closed bolt over the open bolt that he used against the russians though . something like a 9mm ar15 , HK MP5 , or HK UMP .

[y2k survivor]

Originally Posted by Hitman

so your saying a 9mm submachine gun is the way to go ? can't say I disagree with you on this one , I'd pick a closed bolt over the open bolt that he used against the russians though . something like a 9mm ar15 , HK MP5 , or HK UMP .

His 9mm was ok too. But it's more of the fact that a sniper with the most recorded kills used a basic M/N bolt action (granted it was a finish model slightly higher quality than most) w/o the aide of a scope just good old fashion iron sights. And yes alot of his kills came from his sub but alot came from the M/N.