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forsaken101
07-16-2006, 03:03 PM
Sice andy lived in a gun shop, he probably would have had crossbows. Well he should have attached a wire or some type of rope to an arrow and launched it towards the mall, then the people on the mall could have passed food across the wire/rope and they would have avoided andy turning into a zombie, getting tucker killed, and having to leave the mall early due to zombies getting in the mall.

chewy
07-16-2006, 03:55 PM
I think they had a pretty good idea with sending the dog over, though I would have done it sooner before Andy got as weak as he did.

detpat
07-16-2006, 04:50 PM
as soon as they became aware of andy they should have taken the truck and played zombie soccer to thin the ranks a bit, then picked him up. they could have taken one of the shuttles and scraped it right up against the shop front wall and opened the door and got right in.
pat

evilzombie20
07-16-2006, 04:57 PM
I always wondered if they could've gone underground with the food at night as they did to rescue Nicole. But I think it might've been too risky as the zombies did attack them then as well.

zombienerd
07-16-2006, 10:01 PM
I think they should have used the armored shuttle to not only get Andy food, but take him back to the mall, as well as taking all the guns and ammo. They could have gone on a zombie killing rampage while doing this, running them over and shooting as many a possible. As for getting to Andy, they could have used a ladder, starting from the top of the shuttle and gaining access through the roof. This would have been ideal with no one getting hurt or bit, but then the movie would not be as terrifying.

zombiekilling101
07-16-2006, 10:08 PM
, they could have used a ladder, starting from the top of the shuttle and gaining access through the roof. This would have been ideal with no one getting hurt or bit, but then the movie would not be as terrifying.

that still could have been good. THe zombies would have tried to rock the hell out of the bus while it was stopped.. could have made a cool person falling from a ladder into a zombie pit scene.

oh well. im happy with how the movie was.

FatZombie
07-17-2006, 04:58 PM
the electronicts store would have to have one of those gas powerd mini heli copters and flie the food over it might work what do you guys think???:drinking: :machgun2: :shotg: :guns:

wildchid
07-17-2006, 05:10 PM
the electronicts store would have to have one of those gas powerd mini heli copters and flie the food over it might work what do you guys think???:drinking: :machgun2: :shotg: :guns:
Thats not a bad idea. Or even a remote control car, I assume they should have been in range.

zombienerd
07-18-2006, 12:03 AM
I am not too sure about a remote control car. Remember that they needed binoculars to VISUALLY communicate. I think a very strong and durable large type of slingshot or catapult would be more plausible. Maybe there was one in the Mall. After several practice shots with an object of similar shape, size, and weight they might have had a good shot. Another idea i like is for one of them to pretend to be a zombie and simply walk to Andy. But the zombies would probably smell/sense him.

chewy
07-18-2006, 01:15 AM
I am not too sure about a remote control car. Remember that they needed binoculars to VISUALLY communicate. I think a very strong and durable large type of slingshot or catapult would be more plausible. Maybe there was one in the Mall. After several practice shots with an object of similar shape, size, and weight they might have had a good shot.

They might have been able to build one, but even if they did, Andy's gun shop was still at least a couple hundred yards away. That would have to be one hell of a slingshot to get even a one pound payload that far with any degree of accuracy.

I do like the remote control helicopter idea.

chickenchop1
07-18-2006, 09:08 AM
Good question.

Andy should've had his gun ready when opening the mini door. He was mostly careless.:doh:

From the mall, I would attempt to lure the zombies to one side of the mall, get someone to hang a leg down from above not far from the zombie's reach, making the zombies think there's a chance for a meal, luring them all to one side with the commotion. When most of the zombies left Andy's gun shop area, I'd send out the dog, and tell Andy to have plenty of firepower ready to open the door, but don't shoot the dog, just the zombies. Assuming a remote control vehicle, long cable line, and other resources weren't at our disposal... The truck could've gotten stuck underneath all the run over zombies if that was the plan.

If that didn't work, I'd try again, zombies are pretty stupid and easily fooled. At least most of them.

!Vision!
07-18-2006, 02:34 PM
I can't remember. How was it exactly the dog knew where to go? Was Andy blowing a dog whistle and it followed that?

I've often wondered why they sent Andy only one damn sandwitch. The guy was starving for crying out loud.

Anyway the remote controlled helicopter would have been perfect.

blacknirvana
07-18-2006, 04:36 PM
as soon as they became aware of andy they should have taken the truck and played zombie soccer to thin the ranks a bit, then picked him up. they could have taken one of the shuttles and scraped it right up against the shop front wall and opened the door and got right in.
pat

Like this idea, the simple ideas is often the best

livingdeadkev
07-19-2006, 08:45 PM
i liked the crossbow idea better, even if he just shot a bolt attached to a big spool of rope to the roof of the mall they could just zip chord food to him.

Victor Clark
07-20-2006, 05:29 PM
I think the dog was a good plan! The only problem was that Andy let the dog in from a door on ground level! I would've picked the dog up from the roof with a hook on a rope. That dog did have a backpack that could support him.

forsaken101
07-24-2006, 09:02 PM
that was my other idea that i thought would have been a good choice.

StretchyZombie
07-25-2006, 12:52 PM
Alright, crossbows probably can't shoot that far with a strong string attached to it, and probably not very accurately either (not an avid shooter myself, so I could be wrong...), catapults are NEVER precisely accurate, even with experience, and you'd need a VERY powerful RC helicopter to lift 1lb from the mall to what seems like 75-100 yards.

Now if the Mall had one of those big ol' RC airplanes, that could actually work. They are much more powerful than helicopters, and don't rely solely on their engine to carry a payload. It's not like you need to land it carefully either, just crash the damn thing onto Andy's roof.

hugonian
07-25-2006, 02:10 PM
The real way for Andy to get food: he should have built one of those food replicators from Star Trek. Or . . . I’m pretty sure he could have lived off his own legs for a while.

zombiekilling101
07-25-2006, 03:51 PM
I am not too sure about a remote control car. Remember that they needed binoculars to VISUALLY communicate. I think a very strong and durable large type of slingshot or catapult would be more plausible. Maybe there was one in the Mall. After several practice shots with an object of similar shape, size, and weight they might have had a good shot. Another idea i like is for one of them to pretend to be a zombie and simply walk to Andy. But the zombies would probably smell/sense him.

haha no way would that work. Me and my friends back in the day built a giant sling shot that ended up being about 5 ft from the ground up. It didnt amount to much. That idea would never work.

Born to Kill
07-25-2006, 04:22 PM
****in pricks...

I make a thread asking why Ving had to drive like an ass...

And everyone rips me to shreds over it.

But another cat asks pretty much the same question...only about another situation in the same movie...

Basically...couldn't it have been done better.

And this time everyone's full of helpful suggestions.

So why be a dick to me?

Anyway...A good crossbow could have made the distance...but you'd have to use light fishing wire...rope or twine would weigh it down to much.

I also like the idea of clearing the parking lot with the 10 wheeler...

That would at least distract the horde while you sent the dog over...or some shit like that.

chewy
07-25-2006, 04:46 PM
****in pricks...

I make a thread asking why Ving had to drive like an ass...

And everyone rips me to shreds over it.

But another cat asks pretty much the same question...only about another situation in the same movie...

Basically...couldn't it have been done better.

And this time everyone's full of helpful suggestions.

So why be a dick to me?


Did we hurt your widdle feewings?

There's no comparison between your question and the question asked in this thread.

Pain
07-25-2006, 05:01 PM
Calm down people.

Weapons_Check_Food_Crap!!
07-25-2006, 05:15 PM
perosnally I dont under stand why they didnt just use the 10 wheeler and back it put into the shop earlier and got all his ammo and his most of all his marksmanship

that would have been a really dramatic scene.. cause I liked andy =(

Federicoxxx
07-26-2006, 04:41 AM
VERY EASY.. WAY..

CROSS ROAD MAIL.BUSES. [ NOW REINFORCED BUSES]
GOT an opening hatch.. at the rooft of the bus

i take the truck drive it till andy place... the more near possible..

so he can take a leap from [ andy shop gun rooft] to opening bus hatch
and..i leave andy inside..

then go outside.. enter for the dog opening like they did on the movie.. kicking zombies asses grab the guns.. and back to the reinforced BUS..

i tought on put some kind of mattress on the top of the bus..over the hatch
so andy can leap more safely. when [ he is on the top of the bus ] he got more time for push the mattress off. the top of the bus and opening the hatch
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THIS DONT GOT NOTHING TO DO WHIT ANDY TREAD.. BUT.. the other was closed....

can be a kind sequel of DOTD 04.. that new zombies movies. of george romero
name CITY OF ZOMBIES....or something like that?
the one where..is the bad guy of "SPEED" ,Dennis Hopper"..?????

Born to Kill
07-26-2006, 12:16 PM
Did we hurt your widdle feewings?

There's no comparison between your question and the question asked in this thread.
Yes, they are comparable...

Very, in fact.

You just choose to be a prick.

But that's ok...it's obviously all you have to hold on to.

Literally.

Anyway...

I don't think the rooftop hatch trick woulda worked...those zombies were fast and agile. If I'm not mistaken...they were climbing on top of the bus at the end...climbing in to get to security guard ass turned cool dude.

Basically...these zombies can climb...so, hatch to roof = too risky.

Pain
07-26-2006, 12:39 PM
What part of calm down don't you people understand? Have we just resorted to petty name calling? Stick with the thread.

Chewy - Stop trying to antagonize people
BTK - Stop calling people pricks

1953chevy210
07-26-2006, 12:46 PM
Aren't guns easier to take from someone after they have died from starvation? Besides, who wants Dee Snider hanging around all the time, his death benefitted the group!

Seriously though, RC Heli-chopter with 100# test, or the crossbow idea work for me...Not a brain among that whole group!

hugonian
07-26-2006, 01:38 PM
What, they couldn't have sent it DeadEx? Zombies deliver way faster than the postal service.

ZombieJohn
10-28-2006, 09:11 AM
Sure in reality they could use cars,mini-choppers,slingshot etc. But come on wouldn't the movie look kind of cheesy having some one like Kenneth,C.J or even Micheal to be on the roof top with there little remote control flying all around? How ever in reality good ideas.:)

UNDEAD FRED
10-28-2006, 11:17 AM
The survivors at the mall didnt know about Andys stavation till it was allmost to late, Andy was to weak, and probilly a little delerious to defend the sliding door, a little strange to have a door like that on a gun store. Heres some unansewred questions.
Andy was a bacholer, but he should of had at least some old pizza in the fridge, or a lot of beer. Beer has a lot of calories.
Since it was his gun store, andy should of had some snacks,drinks sold near the front counter,good for buisness, or sold freeze dried foods, or surplus MREs.
In the credits Andys video tape, Andy said he went up on the roof and killed a few hundred zeds, but for every 1 he killed, a few more took its place, but that was at the beginning when all the zombies in the city where showing up anyway, insted of playing zombie cerleberty headbangers ball, Andy should have seen , and with the boys keeping count, how many zombies he could hit in the head every day, then try to break the record the next day. In Andys tape, Andy stated He had about 10,000 rounds of ammo. I dont know what caliber the ammo was, and how many rounds he had for his sniper rifle, but he had other rifles he could of used, and it looked like he had reloading equipment. . used pistols to plug away at the undead out in front of his store.
they had to end the movie anyways,so it worked out.

iamperfet
10-28-2006, 09:01 PM
Ok, i've got it.

First of all, they should of got 2-3 propane tanks and lowered them down with the fuse. Andy Shoots them thus clearing a LARGE QUANTITY of zombies. After 3 propane attacks, I'm sure they could of killed at least half the zombies on the ground.

They then lower the dog and with less zombies around the dog should be able to enter with hopefully more than one sandwhich safely.

Propaganda13
10-31-2006, 08:20 PM
Good question.

Andy should've had his gun ready when opening the mini door. He was mostly careless.:doh:

From the mall, I would attempt to lure the zombies to one side of the mall, get someone to hang a leg down from above not far from the zombie's reach, making the zombies think there's a chance for a meal, luring them all to one side with the commotion. When most of the zombies left Andy's gun shop area, I'd send out the dog, and tell Andy to have plenty of firepower ready to open the door, but don't shoot the dog, just the zombies. Assuming a remote control vehicle, long cable line, and other resources weren't at our disposal... The truck could've gotten stuck underneath all the run over zombies if that was the plan.

If that didn't work, I'd try again, zombies are pretty stupid and easily fooled. At least most of them.

^^^^^^Agreed

toe_tag
10-31-2006, 08:34 PM
Poor Andy :( He was the only character I could tolerate.

UNDEAD FRED
10-31-2006, 09:43 PM
Good question.

Andy should've had his gun ready when opening the mini door. He was mostly careless.:doh:

From the mall, I would attempt to lure the zombies to one side of the mall, get someone to hang a leg down from above not far from the zombie's reach, making the zombies think there's a chance for a meal, luring them all to one side with the commotion. When most of the zombies left Andy's gun shop area, I'd send out the dog, and tell Andy to have plenty of firepower ready to open the door, but don't shoot the dog, just the zombies. Assuming a remote control vehicle, long cable line, and other resources weren't at our disposal... The truck could've gotten stuck underneath all the run over zombies if that was the plan.

If that didn't work, I'd try again, zombies are pretty stupid and easily fooled. At least most of them.
I think Andy was to weak from starvation, and he got careless. I would of lured the zombies away from Andys gun store by feeding them Steve.

cadeo
11-01-2006, 08:08 PM
A truck wouldn't be such a good idea. It would cause too much attention, and zombies would get stuck underneath it, causing them to be stuck. If they took the time to prepare and protect the car for food delivery like they did before they left the mall, he would have died from starvation by the time they were ready.

Here are my two alternatives.

1) They should've lured the zombies somewhere, maybe by dangling a volunteer or making a lot of noise. I don't know who'd volunteer, but I suppose they could've gotten somebody drunk enough to agree. While the zombies are busy staring up at the dangling volunteer, they send the dog, even though sending a dog was a risky idea. I mean, the dog could've just wander off into the crowd of zombies, but stuff like that doesn't happen often in the movies.

2) From what I recall, the roof of the mall was higher than the roof of the building Andy was in. Another possibilty would be to throw or send some sort of clotheline over to Andy's building, put the food in a basket, and sliiiiide it over to the guy. Cheesy and lame, yes, but it could've worked. They could have tied an object to one end of the line, and build up enough strength throw that end to Andy, Andy ties down the line. Then they stuff a basket with supplies, secure it onto the clothesline, and viola.

(by the way, I haven't seen the movie lately, so sorry if this is a bit messed up..)

zombieslayer69
11-01-2006, 08:16 PM
A truck wouldn't be such a good idea. It would cause too much attention, and zombies would get stuck underneath it, causing them to be stuck. If they took the time to prepare and protect the car for food delivery like they did before they left the mall, he would have died from starvation by the time they were ready.

Here are my two alternatives.

1) They should've lured the zombies somewhere, maybe by dangling a volunteer or making a lot of noise. I don't know who'd volunteer, but I suppose they could've gotten somebody drunk enough to agree. While the zombies are busy staring up at the dangling volunteer, they send the dog, even though sending a dog was a risky idea. I mean, the dog could've just wander off into the crowd of zombies, but stuff like that doesn't happen often in the movies.

2) From what I recall, the roof of the mall was higher than the roof of the building Andy was in. Another possibilty would be to throw or send some sort of clotheline over to Andy's building, put the food in a basket, and sliiiiide it over to the guy. Cheesy and lame, yes, but it could've worked. The could've tied an object to one end of the line, and build up enough strength the end to Andy, Andy ties down the line. Then they stuff a basket with supplies, secure it onto the clothesline, and viola.

(by the way, I haven't seen the movie lately, so sorry if this is a bit messed up..)

The building is way to far to throw something, but they could actually make a homemade launcher out of a gun. For example, there are grenades that can be attached to the end of a barrel and a special shell is loaded and shot. The special bullet then launches the grenade wherever you please. They could have made something like this but instead of a grenade, just make something that a long wire could attach to and try your best to hit his roof were he can then attach the wire somewhere to his building. Another thing they could have done to get a line to him would be to get a crossbow from the sporting good store(if there is a crossbow) and shoot a lone over that way.

cadeo
11-01-2006, 08:20 PM
The building is way to far to throw something, but they could actually make a homemade launcher out of a gun. For example, there are grenades that can be attached to the end of a barrel and a special shell is loaded and shot. The special bullet then launches the grenade wherever you please. They could have made something like this but instead of a grenade, just make something that a long wire could attach to and try your best to hit his roof were he can then attach the wire somewhere to his building. Another thing they could have done to get a line to him would be to get a crossbow from the sporting good store(if there is a crossbow) and shoot a lone over that way.

Oh snap when I was typing it I forgot the crossbow part. :doh: Didn't Andy own a gun store? I'm sure he would've had something of use for this if they didn't.

Victor Clark
11-01-2006, 08:20 PM
What the hell was wrong with taking the dog? It had no problem going to Andy's place (he had that whistle), and the only reason I can see how it went wrong is that Andy opened a door at ground level! He should've just hoisted the dog up via a rope like how the mall survivors brought the dog down.

cadeo
11-01-2006, 08:32 PM
What the hell was wrong with taking the dog? It had no problem going to Andy's place (he had that whistle), and the only reason I can see how it went wrong is that Andy opened a door at ground level! He should've just hoisted the dog up via a rope like how the mall survivors brought the dog down.
lol how about they swing the dog over to him? just kidding

How would Andy get the rope tied to the dog in order to hoist it up?

RemNac
11-01-2006, 08:34 PM
I would have gone with some way to get a rope/pulley system set up. The trouble is getting the rope to such a distance with accuracy.

There are lots of ways to do this already mentioned. Catapaults, bows, remote helicopters. You might also set up a gas powered 'cannon' to fire the rope over there. One of my favourite ideas is to fill balloons with helium, attach ropes, then just keep sending them up when the wind is in the right direction and hope one comes down on the roof. I like that way because it doesn't matter how far away he is, so long as you've got enough rope and baloons. :)

~RN

zombieslayer69
11-01-2006, 08:54 PM
I would have gone with some way to get a rope/pulley system set up. The trouble is getting the rope to such a distance with accuracy.

There are lots of ways to do this already mentioned. Catapaults, bows, remote helicopters. You might also set up a gas powered 'cannon' to fire the rope over there. One of my favourite ideas is to fill balloons with helium, attach ropes, then just keep sending them up when the wind is in the right direction and hope one comes down on the roof. I like that way because it doesn't matter how far away he is, so long as you've got enough rope and baloons. :)

~RN

Im sure they had most of that stuff too, they just did it this way to make it suspenseful and drama.

lizardman464
11-03-2006, 09:35 PM
Rigging *something* to shoot/throw/fling a string/wire over to andy, then just ziplineing the food to him is the easiest way. It requires the least amount of work and you could easily send him tons of food fast across the line.

It's one of those, "Everyone in a movie is stupid" things.

cadeo
11-03-2006, 11:01 PM
Im sure they had most of that stuff too, they just did it this way to make it suspenseful and drama.
Yes, and if Andy wasn't killed this way, he would have probably died another way in the movie.

DentFoster
11-04-2006, 12:52 AM
Giving Andy food really shouldn't have been a major issue, as long as he had water he would survive until we picked him up. But if we had to do something, there is bound to be a toy store or hobby shop in a major mall, just rig up an RC helecoptor with a Spam sandwich and fly it on over.

UNDEAD FRED
11-04-2006, 02:15 AM
I remember the 1st time the mall survivors saw Andy from the roof of the mall, when the helocopter flew over, there look like there was other buildings close, next to Andys gun store. For survival purposes I wonder if Andy could have some how gotten over to the other bldg, thru a upper window to scavenge for food? or fly a kite over to him with a couple of slim jims, crackers. maybe try to bring back 1 round of ammo at a time. a slim jim for a 357 round, good trade.

Divided Soul
11-08-2006, 04:52 PM
There had to have been a Radio shack in there somewhere.... I'd say RC car

ABRNT1
12-03-2006, 11:21 PM
If some of the people in the mall would've made a diversion on the other side (drawint the majority of the zombies away) a commando group, led by Kenneth, could've taken the truck, drove to Andy's store, gone inside and waited until the zombies calmed down. they had walkie talkies so they could communicate. The group at the mall could then make another diversion and the gun store crowd could get back in the truck and head back to the mall (taking as many guns & ammo as possible).

lizardman464
12-04-2006, 02:26 AM
Yknow, if they took that truck and sawed off the cabs roof, put a little rope ladder there, and some rails on the top of the trailer. They could have made it so instead of having to exit via the doors and be vulnerable to the zombies, they could simple climb to the trailer and transfer supplies that way.

headshotscrazy
12-09-2006, 09:30 PM
i wouldn't have taken the shuttle bus as if i remember correctly there was a security shutter keeping most of the zombies from getting in and stopping any chance of a future escape by bus!

but the truck now theres a item we didn't need well i would probably head on over to the gun store smashing into everything along the way then back the truck up then i would get Andy to open the back shutter load up as much ammo and other stuff into the truck then climb in too! then after that i would drive back to the mall and try figure out a way inside other than the car park!

Victor Clark
12-09-2006, 11:17 PM
Yknow, if they took that truck and sawed off the cabs roof, put a little rope ladder there, and some rails on the top of the trailer. They could have made it so instead of having to exit via the doors and be vulnerable to the zombies, they could simple climb to the trailer and transfer supplies that way.

Do you expect to do all that among a vast group of zombies rocking the truck back & forth? Just have Andy pick the dog up with a hook on a rope! That was how the dog got down, and that could be how the dog can get back up.

ABRNT1
12-10-2006, 01:05 AM
Just have Andy pick the dog up with a hook on a rope! That was how the dog got down, and that could be how the dog can get back up.


That's the winning answer people. :clap: So right out in front of our faces that nobody ever noticed it.

RemNac
12-12-2006, 06:00 PM
That's the winning answer people. :clap: So right out in front of our faces that nobody ever noticed it.

It would be difficult to get a hook on a rope to get the dog's harnass.
Perhaps a hook on the end of a pole, but he'd need a pretty big pole.
Plus he'd only get one shipment.

He could lower a cage for the dog to walk into, hanging from a rope. But he doesn't have any food to coax the dog in.

~RN

UNDEAD FRED
12-12-2006, 06:22 PM
Do you expect to do all that among a vast group of zombies rocking the truck back & forth? Just have Andy pick the dog up with a hook on a rope! That was how the dog got down, and that could be how the dog can get back up.
I thought of the same thing but, what would happen if 1 of the zombies grab the hook, or rope. Started acting aggressive, wouldnt that drive the dog away. I wonder if a large remote control helocopter, with a few food items at a time, maybe it could bring back 1, or 2 shotgun shells, or break down a pistol,bring it back in parts