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jackskellington
04-21-2006, 11:15 AM
Don't get angry...We all knew it was gonna happen sooner or later! Look at it this way...It can't possibly be anywhere near as bad as the first one!!:lol:

OriAvP
04-21-2006, 12:07 PM
can i direct it, or write it? i can assure you i would do a better work than paul anderson

Crickler
04-21-2006, 12:55 PM
can i direct it, or write it? i can assure you i would do a better work than paul anderson

If it was up to me you can go for it. I'll wait til the full anouncement before getting angry or hopeful. If Anderson's name is still attached after that first abomination then I'll despair.

Pain
04-21-2006, 04:46 PM
I guess it was inevitable. You never know, it could be good, but I imagine they will follow the formula of the first movie being as it was fairly successful

Cybopath
04-21-2006, 05:52 PM
They should call it Aliens Vs. Predator (That way it looks like a sequal but not at the same time, so fans can forget about AvP if they wanna)

Set it between Alien 3 and Ressurection.

Have space marines, space mercs.

on a distant teraformed planet.

Hmmm Russian scientists teraformed this planet but its in the US area of space so they hire the Mercs to stop the hand over of the colony to the US.

Preds attracked by this war,

Alien pods under the surface already been descoverd by the Russians.



Did I just come up with a better plot in 5 mins? It took Anderson 7 years??

Cybopath
04-21-2006, 05:56 PM
Infact hows this for a better opening scene.




FADE IN

Space millions of stars sparkle as camera pans.
(Titles appear) ALIENS VERSUS PREDATOR.


1. EXT. SPACE

A huge space craft zooms towards us, behind it another is attacking it (predator ship). Huge plasma blasts hit the space craft it begins leaking gas (fuel). The space craft loses control. The space craft is pulled by near by planet and begins to hurtle towards it. The planet looks like a huge desert but it seems to have an atmosphere it is being terraformened. The predator ship does a U-turn and heads back for the planet, it releases three smaller ships that head towards the planet.The predator mother ship turns and heads back into outer space.

The space craft golws red as it hurtles down through the planets atmosphere parts of it are breaking off as it ganes speed.


CUT TO:


2. EXT. DESERT SURFACE DAY

The surface is dead nothing could live here(or could it) the wind blows as the camera slowly pans, we hear a noise build up from a low hiss to a deafening roar, suddnley the huge space craft crashes through the ground.



CUT TO:



3. INT. TERRAFORMER COLONY DAY

A man sits up as he hears the thundering noise of the crash. Items fall off the walls as the hole place shakes with a tremor. Dozens of people clamber towards the two foot thick windows. In the distance a trail of smoke can be seen the people are talking in Russian .





4. EXT. TERRAFORMER COLONY DAY

Huge blast doors open a big hummer like jeep drives from them. It sets of in the direction of the crash.





5. EXT. CRASH SITE DAY

The jeep stops in front of the large crator the space craft has caused. The jeeps doors hydrolicly open, four men step out their clothes are thick, their faces are wrapped and they are wearing goggles. The men stand by the space ship and look down into the huge crator it has formned. A man lies a couple of feet away from the wreck a trail of blood is behind him.





6. INT. CRATOR DAY

The last of the four men decends down a rope ladder into the bottom of the cave wich we now see is actually a tunnel. They search around the wreck talking to each other in russian. They check the dead man he has a gapping wound on his side wear something has cleanly cut through.





7. INT. SPACE CRAFT DAY

The men enter the craft and look around, Inside they find the small crew dead from the crash. The dead men are dressed in rag tag milatary unifors that don't match. One of the men kneels down to examin a weapon in one of the dead crews hand a predators circular blade. As he is looking at it one of the russian men shouts from outside the craft. The two russians from the ship run further into the tunnel to find the others standing by hordes of football shaped objects. One of the eggs begins to open a man standing next to it shouts to the others then crowches down to look inside.

SCREEEEECH!


FADE TO BLACK:

Crickler
04-22-2006, 06:24 AM
Cybopath, more please:clap:

but I imagine they will follow the formula of the first movie being as it was fairly successful

thats what i'm afraid of

The Blind Dead
04-22-2006, 12:48 PM
can i direct it, or write it? i can assure you i would do a better work than paul anderson
Yes...I'm sure you can. :loon:

The Blind Dead
04-22-2006, 12:51 PM
I guess it was inevitable. You never know, it could be good, but I imagine they will follow the formula of the first movie being as it was fairly successful
It's never really a creative decision anymore. These kind of sequels are simply a money grab. They're somewhat fun but this particular franchise (AvP) definitely started weak. Let's hope this expands some of the cool concepts in the first.

jackskellington
04-25-2006, 04:45 AM
Uh-Oh...

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23106

dead_slayer
04-25-2006, 12:06 PM
If that truly is the actual script for AvP2 then f**k me.. thats shit awful!:x :poo:
Edit:
Any fool can watch either franchise and say they're a fan but I do believe Paul Anderson had never seen either one. And to claim he's a "big fan" when making AvP.... yeah whatever:roll:

Crickler
04-25-2006, 02:02 PM
Ok, now i am worried. If thats the plot then all hope for this project is lost.

OriAvP
04-25-2006, 03:26 PM
OH MY GOD, that plot is absolute crap!!!!

ok, maybe i couldnt direct it, but i sure could write a better script well adjusted for the fans.

Victor Clark
04-26-2006, 09:25 PM
I liked the first AvP, and knowing that there's a sequel coming out makes me want to see the outcome, even though it might be the same as the first one.

jackskellington
08-01-2006, 08:51 AM
This just HAS to be the lamest title in movie history...

http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=2426

HOO-HAA
08-01-2006, 09:00 AM
This just HAS to be the lamest title in movie history...

http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=2426

Oh, that sounds GRIM! :scare:

Mind you, I didn't think the first one was that bad... Okay, it was no classic, by any stretch of the pants, but I still enjoyed it for what it was...

... Could have been much better, of course...

Cybopath
08-01-2006, 09:04 AM
This just HAS to be the lamest title in movie history...

http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=2426
Oh dear god :(

I guess this one will be a PG and you'll get AvP toys with a happy meal.

I'm hoping this one will flop on it's ass. The first AvP was sucessful because we all gave it the bennifit of the doubt. After all you can't know how bad, how absolutly cringe worthingly terrable a film can be untill you pay your money and see it. But this time most of us hopefully will go, na that's going to suck, I'll catch it when it's on TV.

jackskellington
08-01-2006, 09:06 AM
I'll wait and see how the fans here on the boards review it. If it gets good marks here, then I'll go see it in the theater. If not, I'll be waiting on the disc.

chewy
08-01-2006, 09:57 AM
This just HAS to be the lamest title in movie history...


I think that award goes to "Snakes On A Plane"

Bad Zombie Night
08-01-2006, 11:57 AM
Unless I hear some good things about this flick, I think I'll wait till this one hits cable. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/predatorani.gif http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/blowingsmoke.gif

Godzilla_Rules
08-01-2006, 12:02 PM
I am suprised a Freddy vs Jason 2 is not out yet.:)

zombiekilling101
08-01-2006, 02:22 PM
First time I saw AVP I laughed at the movie. Than when the dvd hit I actually started liking it and enjoyed it as entertainment instead of a movie thats part of a franchise..

I like AVP and am looking forward to Survival of the Fittest... however lame that title is.

Crombie
08-01-2006, 04:19 PM
What I don't get is why two stories based on Earth as the locale? I read a couple of the AvP books, and even the games had better locations than they seem to be choosing. I watch Alien movies to be freaked out by how.. well.. Alien the locations look.

Cybopath
08-02-2006, 10:11 AM
What I don't get is why two stories based on Earth as the locale? I read a couple of the AvP books, and even the games had better locations than they seem to be choosing. I watch Alien movies to be freaked out by how.. well.. Alien the locations look.

That's one of the main reasons I hate the movie. The only film out of all the others that was set in the present was Predator. Predator 2 was the future (An alternate reality now). You have 2 Alien Species from different sides of the galaxy why the hell pic Present day antartica to fight? (Budget).

And then Anderson has the nerve to try and make a big chunk of the Alien and Predator history up. The whole Predators building pyramids and becoming Aztec gods was rediculas. As far as I'm concerned it's the most expensive "Fan"-Made movie. And has nothing to do with the REAL franchise.

Darth Erroneous
08-02-2006, 10:17 AM
I'm anxious to see how the sequel plays out. Maybe Anderson has been monitoring ATZ and has taken some notes. :lol:

OriAvP
08-02-2006, 12:49 PM
anderson its not involved in this sequel...luckyli for us

The Blind Dead
08-02-2006, 01:59 PM
Too bad I think Anderson's made some fun stuff.

Darth Erroneous
08-02-2006, 03:13 PM
anderson its not involved in this sequel...luckyli for us

There I go assuming again...:x

Zombiekillerninja
08-03-2006, 12:40 PM
I hope they explore the predalien at least. Those were the second most bad ass unit in AvP:Extinction. It was Ravager, Predalien, Exosuit.

zombiekilling101
08-04-2006, 03:37 AM
It would be cool if they had some aspects of the book. Aliens: Earth Hive. Since the movie is set on earth it would be cool if they took some aspects from it.. but I doubt it.

Cybopath
08-07-2006, 01:10 PM
Aliens and predators wage war in an American Midwestern town - with the residents caught in the middle!!!

Excuse me cheese alert! Are we sure Paul Anderson has nothing to do with the script?

Didn't anyone learn anything from the first desaster?

1. When you have a film about two alien species fighting Don't Set it on earth.

2. Where you have 2 series of 6 films where 5 where set in the future....Don't set it in the present.

Sorry horror icons getting it on in a lil town is what Freddy n Jason do not two Alien species.

Have Fox got a bet on to see who can P' off the most fans?

Cybopath
08-07-2006, 01:12 PM
AvP Paul Anderson's Dream clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLPOkGh4I_A)

jackskellington
01-15-2007, 06:31 PM
New pic...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/jackskellington70/Random/avp2011607.jpg

The Blind Dead
01-15-2007, 08:21 PM
Didn't anyone learn anything from the first desaster?

Typically sequels indicate a film was far less disastrous than fanatics would have everybody believe.


New pic...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/jackskellington70/Random/avp2011607.jpg
Looks nifty! I'll definitely be hitting the outdoor theater with my son for this.

Cybopath
01-16-2007, 03:50 PM
Typically sequels indicate a film was far less disastrous than fanatics would have everybody believe.


Oh it made lots of money and they need a sequel, it must have been good because they never make sequels to bad films and lots of money means a film is good.

Fast & the Furious: Tokyo drift, XXX2, Resident Evil: Apocalypse?


What bothers me is how dumb Fox are, they clearly only green lit the movie because of the sucess of FvJ. You do know that Ridley Scott, James Cameron and Dan O'Bannon where actually working on a fifth Alien movie which involved the Alien race from the first film. Fox said can you shelf the script because we are now doing this.. AvP. Cameron ripped up his own Alien 5 script after reading the AvP script as he said it would ruin the franchise. So fox would rather have a crap crossover than a good sequel. And this new one even if it is rated R will still be stupid, there is no reason to have the Iconic creatures battling in a present day small American town, only a moron would set a film between two alien races on earth.

The Blind Dead
01-16-2007, 03:59 PM
*shrugs*

They're a business and businesses want to make money. An AvP sequel will make them quite a bit of money. Simply because you feel you can write better than Paul Anderson doesn't mean you know Fox's business better than they do. :)

Do they make sequels to bad movies? Sure, but a financially successful movie is still a financially successful movie no matter how hard fans cry.

Cybopath
01-16-2007, 04:21 PM
*shrugs*

They're a business and businesses want to make money. An AvP sequel will make them quite a bit of money. Simply because you feel you can write better than Paul Anderson doesn't mean you know Fox's business better than they do. :)

Do they make sequels to bad movies? Sure, but a financially successful movie is still a financially successful movie no matter how hard fans cry.

I still don't get your point, Yes it will make money. If a trained chimp had the crew and two guys dressed up in the costumes mud wrestled it still make money if it had AvP2 as the title. BUT, it'd sell a lot more DvDs and make more money if it where a good film the fans at least felt was above average.

Predator took 10 years to break even, Alien 4 raked in the money go figure.

Dead J
01-16-2007, 08:53 PM
I just hope there will be more Alien vs Predator fighting in this sequal thats what i didnt like so much about the first one I didnt think there was enough of those two going at it thru the movie.

zombielette
01-16-2007, 09:05 PM
i hope this one is better than the first one

Captain Hawk
01-16-2007, 10:01 PM
"FX pros Colin and Greg Strauss make their feature directorial debuts" so sayeth Fangoria.
You know that this will mean what it always means when an art Director, or special effects guru gets to direct....it will be a 90 minute wank fest of explosives and choppy editing to metal music with NO credible plot or character build up.

The whole reason the Original Alien worked was that they let tension build. Even in Aliens, although we already knew what was coming, they still built up the suspension for 40 mminutes before we saw them. thats Directing. Thats not hiding behind effects.

Also, while I'm ranting, I think one of the hundred and one things that stank about the last movie that I really hoped they would change is that they darkened the Preditors skin so he was almost black. This meant that when he fought the Alien who was also black, you could hardly distinguish what was going on and who was bashing who.

The Blind Dead
01-16-2007, 11:42 PM
I still don't get your point, Yes it will make money. If a trained chimp had the crew and two guys dressed up in the costumes mud wrestled it still make money if it had AvP2 as the title. BUT, it'd sell a lot more DvDs and make more money if it where a good film the fans at least felt was above average.

Predator took 10 years to break even, Alien 4 raked in the money go figure.
You don't "get" my point because you're a fanboy and don't need to answer to hundreds of investors and share holders. Studios aren't interested in films with the potential to return profit "in the long run." Like any business they want to be able to recoup costs as soon as possible, preferably at the box office.

Would it sell more and make more money if they stuck to what the fans wanted? That's hard to say seeing as how they're making FAR more money doing it their way right now. I mean why listen to a bunch of net dweeb purists when their current formula is doing just fine?

Like it or not that's business.

The Phantom
01-19-2007, 04:38 AM
Damn, I (almost) hated the first part..That pic already disgusts me...Why is the homo predator always owning uber xenomorphs? That's just not right...But I'd like to see it anyway :D

Captain Hawk
01-19-2007, 11:38 AM
Aliens and predators wage war in an American Midwestern town - with the residents caught in the middle!!!

Excuse me cheese alert! Are we sure Paul Anderson has nothing to do with the script?

Didn't anyone learn anything from the first desaster?

1. When you have a film about two alien species fighting Don't Set it on earth.

2. Where you have 2 series of 6 films where 5 where set in the future....Don't set it in the present.

Sorry horror icons getting it on in a lil town is what Freddy n Jason do not two Alien species.

Have Fox got a bet on to see who can P' off the most fans?

I think they set them it in present time, mid west for the same reason 90% of the new Dr. Who series sets them all on earth........it's cheaper. To create a future, alien setting costs big bucks and loads more talent than they are probably willing to risk.

Cybopath
01-23-2007, 02:55 PM
You don't "get" my point because you're a fanboy and don't need to answer to hundreds of investors and share holders. Studios aren't interested in films with the potential to return profit "in the long run." Like any business they want to be able to recoup costs as soon as possible, preferably at the box office.

Would it sell more and make more money if they stuck to what the fans wanted? That's hard to say seeing as how they're making FAR more money doing it their way right now. I mean why listen to a bunch of net dweeb purists when their current formula is doing just fine?

Like it or not that's business.

I do understand what your saying I just don't understand why you are saying it unless you actually enjoy crap films that make lots of money and suck franchises dry.

Your point was that AvP couldn't have been bad (Which it was, it made Alien 3 look like Star Wars) because they're making a sequel.

The you back this up by saying it's a business, contradicting your own point. Of coarse I know its a business that's why we have 4 Scary Movies, that's why they kept making Jaws sequels.

But they would make more money if they had made a decent film, not a breath taking, I have to change my top 10 list film, but decent. I'd have the DvD now, I wouldn't see AvP the newest of all the Alien and Pred films in DvD shops marked down to 3.99 when 20 year old predecessors are still marked 15 -20.

I think they set them it in present time, mid west for the same reason 90% of the new Dr. Who series sets them all on earth........it's cheaper. To create a future, alien setting costs big bucks and loads more talent than they are probably willing to risk.

I understand that point, but still this is Fox. Think of all the similar or cheaper budgeted Sci/Fi films that have pretty good sets "Soldier", "Pitch Black" & "Event Horizon". It's not that hard to film in a Desert and pretend its another planet, Build corridors (Face it Spaceships are just piped corridors) or do a little green screen.

The Blind Dead
01-23-2007, 09:18 PM
I do understand what your saying I just don't understand why you are saying it unless you actually enjoy crap films that make lots of money and suck franchises dry.

Your point was that AvP couldn't have been bad (Which it was, it made Alien 3 look like Star Wars) because they're making a sequel.

I never said it was a good movie, I simply said "Typically sequels indicate a film was far less disastrous than fanatics would have everybody believe."

...meaning...you can shout as loud as you want about how horrible it was but it was successful enough to warrant a sequel. Whether you agree it was worthy of a sequel means abolutely nothing in the long run.


The you back this up by saying it's a business, contradicting your own point. Of coarse I know its a business that's why we have 4 Scary Movies, that's why they kept making Jaws sequels.

I never contradicted any point I made. I never stated AvP was a good film. Perhaps reading closer would clear things up for you. My point was the film was GOOD ENOUGH financially to warrant a sequel and so either millions of people are wrong OR you're just a bit too obsessive when it comes to where you feel the series should be.

I didn't think the movie was great but my son and I had a great time eating popcorn and sucking down soda while watching it and that's the REAL bottomline. It was a mindless glob of entertainment and it was entertaining JUST ENOUGH to offer Fox the opportunity to make a sequel. In my opinion that sounds pretty successful to me whether I thought a sequel was needed or not.


But they would make more money if they had made a decent film, not a breath taking, I have to change my top 10 list film, but decent. I'd have the DvD now, I wouldn't see AvP the newest of all the Alien and Pred films in DvD shops marked down to 3.99 when 20 year old predecessors are still marked 15 -20.

Well write me a postcard from Fox when you're handling the series, until then I really don't put a ton of stock in woulda, shoulda or coulda from fans. :lol:

Captain Hawk
01-24-2007, 02:09 AM
I understand that point, but still this is Fox. Think of all the similar or cheaper budgeted Sci/Fi films that have pretty good sets "Soldier", "Pitch Black" & "Event Horizon". It's not that hard to film in a Desert and pretend its another planet, Build corridors (Face it Spaceships are just piped corridors) or do a little green screen.

I take your point.

Captain Hawk
01-24-2007, 02:11 AM
So it's called Alian vs Predator: Survival of the fittest.

Groan.sounds like Mark Burnets next reality show.

The Blind Dead
01-24-2007, 03:33 AM
I think it sounds like a popcorn and snowcaps flick.

Cybopath
01-24-2007, 02:25 PM
I never said it was a good movie, I simply said "Typically sequels indicate a film was far less disastrous than fanatics would have everybody believe."

...meaning...you can shout as loud as you want about how horrible it was but it was successful enough to warrant a sequel. Whether you agree it was worthy of a sequel means abolutely nothing in the long run.


I never contradicted any point I made. I never stated AvP was a good film. Perhaps reading closer would clear things up for you. My point was the film was GOOD ENOUGH financially to warrant a sequel and so either millions of people are wrong OR you're just a bit too obsessive when it comes to where you feel the series should be.

I didn't think the movie was great but my son and I had a great time eating popcorn and sucking down soda while watching it and that's the REAL bottomline. It was a mindless glob of entertainment and it was entertaining JUST ENOUGH to offer Fox the opportunity to make a sequel. In my opinion that sounds pretty successful to me whether I thought a sequel was needed or not.


Well write me a postcard from Fox when you're handling the series, until then I really don't put a ton of stock in woulda, shoulda or coulda from fans. :lol:

Then what's your whole basis for argument, my statement (Did they not learn anything from AvP) I don't recall saying they movie flopped By the time a person realizes the film is S*** they've already payed their 5 bucks. I'm saying its bashed by the fans (I only know one person who likes AvP), "Batman and Robin" was bashed by the fans and Warner went hmmm the fans hate it when we FCUK up their franchises lets find out what they want.

But if you want to remove my ability to criticize AvP as a disastrous spit in the face of two of my favourite franchises well then I guess no one should criticize Land of the Dead for being more commercial.

Hicksy
03-03-2007, 04:24 PM
I'm probably the biggest Alien fan, and one of the biggest predator fans. I like this kind of stuff. I mean, yeah, It may seem stupid or crappy to some people, but I love the stuff.

Godzilla_Rules
03-03-2007, 09:04 PM
It looks to be stupid but I will still be in line to see it in the theaters. I am suprised there is not a sequel out to freddy vs jason!

Darkness
03-04-2007, 02:17 AM
:drinking: "Yay, Dark Horse!!!! Way Ta Go Guys!!!" :drinking:

Solaar
03-04-2007, 02:59 AM
I'm actually just pleased they're still keeping the franchise alive. I got high-hopes for this film, I think it can only get better.

Beside, wouldn;t we rather all have regular (semi-good) films than no films at all?

Solaar
and his two cents

DentFoster
06-01-2007, 07:09 PM
Well I really enjoyed the first one so I'll be seeing this one as well. Theater vs DVD..... hmmm...... who knows, probably DVD though.

zombiekilling101
06-01-2007, 08:37 PM
Well I really enjoyed the first one so I'll be seeing this one as well. Theater vs DVD..... hmmm...... who knows, probably DVD though.


At first I hated the first one. but then it grew on me once I was able to look past the badness. It was entertaining.I'll be catching this one in the theater.

SicklyBug
06-01-2007, 10:29 PM
The first AVP film is getting a little bit better with age. Complaints aside, I don't think any director out there other than Cameron or Scott could have lived up to the expectations that everyone had for the film.

If there is anything I can say for Anderson is that he has a gigantic set of testicles. I can't imagine trying to tackle all the expectations that the hardcore fans like myself had for this film and trying to satisfy the fox execs at the same time.

In the end I'm just happy that the head guys at Fox weren't smoking too much crack and doing something really stupid.... like letting Uwe Boll get his slimey mitts on AVP.

chewy
06-01-2007, 10:48 PM
AvP wasn't a great movie by any stretch, but it wasn't that bad. My biggest gripe was with some of the acting; jackass' "Luna del Caccatore" line makes me wince every time I hear it. Whenever you're dealing with series that have such hardcore fanboys as this, they're never going to happy regardless of who makes the movie.

SicklyBug
06-01-2007, 11:03 PM
AvP wasn't a great movie by any stretch, but it wasn't that bad. My biggest gripe was with some of the acting; jackass' "Luna del Caccatore" line makes me wince every time I hear it. Whenever you're dealing with series that have such hardcore fanboys as this, they're never going to happy regardless of who makes the movie.

I agree with the acting, but I think the bigger issue that Anderson doesn't understand that his audience isn't nearly as stupid as he thinks they are. My major gripe is that the pyridamid changes every 10 mins yet he uses that against himself as a film maker. I coulda swore there was at least one period of time that was longer than 10 mins (in real time) from one shift to another. Then there is the spot where the eggs appear as one time marker and then the first chestburster emerges. Even without going to the other movies to see how long gestation takes, 10 mins or less just seems far too quick even if you hadn't seen the other alien movies. If he would have had the time frame be an hour or more between shifts then you could at least explain away why some shifts took so long. Don't create a standard within your own movie and then not stick to it, that's just bad movie making.

zombiekilling101
06-02-2007, 03:30 PM
I agree with the acting, but I think the bigger issue that Anderson doesn't understand that his audience isn't nearly as stupid as he thinks they are. My major gripe is that the pyridamid changes every 10 mins yet he uses that against himself as a film maker. I coulda swore there was at least one period of time that was longer than 10 mins (in real time) from one shift to another. Then there is the spot where the eggs appear as one time marker and then the first chestburster emerges. Even without going to the other movies to see how long gestation takes, 10 mins or less just seems far too quick even if you hadn't seen the other alien movies. If he would have had the time frame be an hour or more between shifts then you could at least explain away why some shifts took so long. Don't create a standard within your own movie and then not stick to it, that's just bad movie making.

about the eggs hatching quick style. Wasnt it in the original scrip that we were supposed to know that the Preds were pumping the aliens full of growth hormones?

either way... thanks for pointing out that flaw.:)

I feel like watching this now.

Cybopath
06-02-2007, 07:38 PM
AvP was a terrible movie by no stretch of the imagination was it a good movie or an average movie or an entertaining enough movie it was just plain awful and AvP 2 stinks of rushed, cheapness that can only result in disaster.

Maybe if we pretend its not there it will go away.

As for no Director living up to Alien, Aliens and Predator sure. But you can at least better or live up to Predator 2, Alien 3 and Resurrection.

I can't say this for many big franchise films but I could honestly have came up with a better script, I could have honestly Directed that film better.

zombiekilling101
06-03-2007, 01:36 AM
AvP was a terrible movie by no stretch of the imagination was it a good movie or an average movie or an entertaining enough movie it was just plain awful and AvP 2 stinks of rushed, cheapness that can only result in disaster.

-.

I have to disagree with the rush factor. Its been a couple years since AVP...

Crickler
06-03-2007, 11:43 AM
AvP was a terrible movie by no stretch of the imagination was it a good movie or an average movie or an entertaining enough movie it was just plain awful

Maybe if we pretend its not there it will go away.

:lol: I couldn't have put it better myself.

I fully expect this to be awful, and Fox wont be getting my ticket money for this, I still haven't forgiven myself for spending £7 to see the first one.

Sadogoat
06-03-2007, 12:21 PM
I have little faith in this upcoming sequel. Infact I think Fox have taken a half-assed attitude toward the Aliens/Predator/AvP franchises for about a decade now (and I used to work for them regarding these). It just seems to me that they want loads of cash for minimal investment, and zero interest in maintaining what 'integrity' the properties once had. Just my opinion, of course.

Zoon McCoy
06-09-2007, 01:21 PM
Any fool can watch either franchise and say they're a fan but I do believe Paul Anderson had never seen either one. And to claim he's a "big fan" when making AvP.... yeah whatever:roll:

He says this to get those who dont think too much on his side. He has a nasty habit of claiming he is a big fan of what ever franchise he plans to rape. The work he produces it contradicts what he brags about before hand.

His finished work is always as far from what a big fan of any series would make it be. The Resident Evil movies are similar to the series in name only and his bastardisation of AVP is watered down teen marketed action. Something to which he specialises in. He has writing talent and directing talent best suited to porn (yes indeed, it be that bad). He gets offers of work because he doesn't question his superiours. He is what I like to call a "yes!" man. What a muppet!.

But hey, I am just repeating what we all know. And anyway this sequel is supposed to have Reiko Aylesworth in it, so I will be taking a look no matter how bad it is. I just hope it isn't anywhere near as bad as the turd bomb of a first one.

Cybopath
06-09-2007, 01:32 PM
He has writing talent and directing talent best suited to porn (yes indeed, it be that bad). He gets offers of work because he doesn't question his superiours. He is what I like to call a "yes!" man. What a muppet!.


That's pretty much what I heard about him too, my Lecturer at College was at the studios in england while they where filming Event Horizon, He said the SFX guys spent months designing a contraption to do all the anti gravity effects live and that it would have looked better, but Anderson just told them to get rid of it as the Producers wanted more CGI also he said Anderson seems more like an assistant director than an actual director as he is a producers lackey.

Zoon McCoy
06-09-2007, 01:49 PM
That's pretty much what I heard about him too, my Lecturer at College was at the studios in england while they where filming Event Horizon, He said the SFX guys spent months designing a contraption to do all the anti gravity effects live and that it would have looked better, but Anderson just told them to get rid of it as the Producers wanted more CGI also he said Anderson seems more like an assistant director than an actual director as he is a producers lackey.

That is so true he is a producers lackey. The producers for the Resident Evil series wanted a more action orientated series, rather than horror. They stated that if they wanted horror they would have stuck with Romero.

That in my eyes would have been the best course of action, not fall out with Romero and go ahead and hire the "yes!" man instead. Romero stated that the producers did not know what they wanted, as he had written 4 different versions of the RE script and only "the first version" was released to the net. The one most fans (in denial of how bad the RE movies are) say isn't very good. The other three versions of the RE script he wrote I guess we wont ever know what they were like. But I bet my life they pissed on everything the "yes!" man wrote.

jackskellington
08-24-2007, 12:35 PM
New Pic. Also, this sequel is now evidently titled, "Alien vs. Predator: Requiem".

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/jackskellington70/Random/predator0812607.jpg

Cobblepot
08-24-2007, 12:56 PM
his bastardisation of AVP is watered down teen marketed action

'Bastardisation' - I'm writing that one down. That's the best description of what Anderson did I've heard so far. :)

I think he was too intent on littering in-jokes and references to the other films in both series, rather then making his own, serious stamp on the material.

But he has nothing to do with this sequel (I think?), which is already a 100% improvement, one thinks.

The Blind Dead
08-24-2007, 03:03 PM
New Pic. Also, this sequel is now evidently titled, "Alien vs. Predator: Requiem".

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/jackskellington70/Random/predator0812607.jpg
All groupie whining aside, I think this should prove fun. My son and I had a ball at the outdoor theater watching the first. Can't wait for this one.

zombiekilling101
08-24-2007, 07:39 PM
cool pic. looking forward to it

SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty
08-25-2007, 06:28 AM
Alien vs. Predator vs. ... Ash! Instant goldmine!!:lol:

jackskellington
08-25-2007, 07:23 AM
TRAILER!!!!

I HAVE TO SAY....THIS IS LOOKING PRETTY FREAKIN' GOOD!!!

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/bdtv/Player.php?id=1078

Darkness
08-25-2007, 07:37 AM
"OH YEAH!!!!!!!" :drinking:

"You definitely have my full attention now, for sure!!!" :clap:

"P.S. Jack, I LOVE your new avatar!" :)

jackskellington
08-25-2007, 07:43 AM
"P.S. Jack, I LOVE your new avatar!" :)

Thanks! I decided to go with the softer side of Jack Skellington for a change!:)

Cybopath
08-26-2007, 06:23 PM
Saw the trailer, Looks 100 times better than AvP. Doesn't necessarily mean it looks good.

Dagnammit
08-26-2007, 07:05 PM
Just watched the trailer. Fsck me, but it looks like Aliens Versus Predator 2 might actually be... good! :?

taifOOm
08-27-2007, 09:23 AM
TRAILER!!!!

I HAVE TO SAY....THIS IS LOOKING PRETTY FREAKIN' GOOD!!!

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/bdtv/Player.php?id=1078

I'll swallow my pride and admit, that looks pretty damn good. Still won't pay money to see it in a theatre I don't think.

zombiekilling101
08-30-2007, 08:43 PM
looks pretty badass... hopefully it is

Sawnoff
08-30-2007, 11:29 PM
I felt the first AvP was a disgrace, poor poor unawares Ellen Ripley spends 4 whole motion pictures trying to stop an alien getting to earth, she even dies to make sure it never happens..... only...... there were aliens on earth long before she was even born..... (enter Burt Gummer briefly) I feel she was denied...critical...need-to-know...information! I blame the corporations and their money lust oooooo they love their monies :p hehe. There are also a hundred other things that make AvP a travesty, however, this being said I saw the trailer, it looks good, it looks like it might be great, I try not to have high hopes but I just can't help it. I am willing to overlook the minor faults, I am also willing to overlook the major faults (see opening statement) as long as it is as promising as the trailer makes it appear. And why they're at it may as well make a 3rd, drop an alien egg on a hippie commune, AvP 3: Flower Power, would swing a whole new meaning on the phrase 'Acid for Blood' :lol:

jackskellington
08-31-2007, 09:00 AM
...AvP 3: Flower Power, would swing a whole new meaning on the phrase 'Acid for Blood' :lol:

LMFAO!!!:lol:

nirvroxx
08-31-2007, 04:10 PM
that trailer looks damn good....now im interested.

SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty
09-09-2007, 12:55 PM
TRAILER!!!!

I HAVE TO SAY....THIS IS LOOKING PRETTY FREAKIN' GOOD!!!

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/bdtv/Player.php?id=1078

Wow! Great effects. I loved the scene with the soldier running through the jungle right onto a predators blades.

jackskellington
09-12-2007, 07:01 AM
Another pic...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/jackskellington70/Random/avp091007.jpg

zombiekilling101
09-12-2007, 02:39 PM
Another pic...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/jackskellington70/Random/avp091007.jpg

alien looks alittle off doesnt it?

SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty
09-12-2007, 08:13 PM
alien looks alittle off doesnt it?

Maybe it's a result of what species of animal the face-hugger lays its egg inside. Remember Ripley in Alien 3 commenting that the alien "moved different"? It hatched from a dog and was more four-legged than the previous ones.

jackskellington
09-17-2007, 07:35 AM
SPOILER FILLED interview with directors...

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1569392/20070910/story.jhtml

Solaar
09-17-2007, 11:40 AM
Sweet frickin' Jesus!! This actually looks good! It actually looks like there is an element of horror in the film! Not many films get me hooked from the trailer but this one has! (That and 30 Days of Night!)

Btw, I actually didn't mind AVP 1 - probably cos I was just so glad to see the franchise up and running again, even if it did have a slight "turn" away from what made the first films great.

Any chance of a Predator 3 or Alien/s 5...?

Solaar
a big fan

jackskellington
09-17-2007, 01:12 PM
Any chance of a Predator 3 or Alien/s 5...?

I seem to remember something about those sequels hinging on the success or failure of AvP 1. Not surprisingly, they never came to light but maybe this new AvP will bring some new hope for them. :pray:

Cybopath
09-17-2007, 08:27 PM
SPOILER FILLED interview with directors...

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1569392/20070910/story.jhtml

If they hate AvP 1 so bad why do they have to acknowledge it? They should have made a stand alone film In the future like they said there next one would be. That way we could finally forget about AvP the Jar Jar Binks of adult Sci Fi.

Solaar
09-18-2007, 05:24 AM
If they hate AvP 1 so bad why do they have to acknowledge it?

And, if it was sooo bad, why then carry on where the AVP left off with this Predalien? Which is also quite a sucky name.*

The didn't call it an Aliedog in 3 did they?? :)

*I know they said it isn't a direct follow on, BUT it includes the ship that leaves at the end of AVP AS WELL AS the Alien/Predator hybrid... so, no - NO way does it carry on* lol

Solaar
a Predahuman

The One and Only
09-20-2007, 08:10 PM
A new trailer for your enjoyment.:lol::drinking: (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=9394)

Sadogoat
09-21-2007, 11:13 AM
And, if it was sooo bad, why then carry on where the AVP left off with this Predalien? Which is also quite a sucky name.*

Well, to be fair they didn't come up with the name 'Predalien'. That's already been in use for many years in the AvP videogames and comics.

Solaar
09-21-2007, 11:35 AM
And now the new trailer makes it look even better!! Anyone got a release date yet?

Solaar
pissing his pants in excitement

Sadogoat
09-21-2007, 11:56 AM
January 18th, 2008.

It was originally scheduled for Xmas, but they pushed it back recently.

Solaar
09-22-2007, 03:47 AM
January 18th, 2008.

It was originally scheduled for Xmas, but they pushed it back recently.

I'm guessing that's a US date? Any idea on the British one? Then again, I buy region 1 dvds so I guess I won't have to wait as long as everyone else over here once it's released on dvd...

Solaar
the impatient

Sadogoat
09-22-2007, 09:12 AM
January 18 for the UK too. Best place to check UK movie release dates is here (http://www.launchingfilms.com/releaseschedule/schedule.php?sort=date&startmonth=1&startyear=2008).

jackskellington
09-22-2007, 11:11 AM
Poster...

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/jackskellington70/Random/avprposter.jpg

Solaar
09-23-2007, 02:41 AM
January 18 for the UK too. Best place to check UK movie release dates is here (http://www.launchingfilms.com/releaseschedule/schedule.php?sort=date&startmonth=1&startyear=2008).


Excellent - thanks Sadogoat :)

I see that I Am Legend is out a couple of weeks before. Think thats looking ok...

Solaar
got his hopes up

jackskellington
10-26-2007, 07:15 AM
Introducing The Predalien!!!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/jackskellington70/Random/Predalien.jpg

The Blind Dead
10-26-2007, 11:55 AM
Looks nifty! It's not drop dead amazing looking but still better than watching Barbara Walters on The View. :lol:

jackskellington
10-26-2007, 02:44 PM
Looks nifty! It's not drop dead amazing looking but still better than watching Barbara Walters on The View. :lol:

LOL!!! Yeah, but I could definitely do without the superhero looking design on his chest. I guess that's supposed to be his ribcage or something, but it almost looks like they were trying to do a predator face design there ala Spiderman.

The Blind Dead
10-26-2007, 03:05 PM
I can't wait to see it in action! Yeah baby yeah!

*hears the collective whimpering of the Paul W.S. Anderson haters*

F Stop
10-28-2007, 11:12 PM
Actually this movie looks pretty sick. Gunnison is about 1.5 hours away from me. Cool that it's set here. :)

I just like these movies because they're entertaining. If you go in with no expectations other than to be entertained for a little over 1.5 hours, it's pretty hard to be disappointed.

Boozbie
11-03-2007, 05:27 PM
Introducing The Predalien!!!

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/jackskellington70/Random/Predalien.jpg

Ok i remember in the Game AvP the alien predator mix were called Praterioans i know i know thats the name of a Roman Emperors personal bodyguards but its still a pretty good name


Now for the rant this is the finalt straw they have fuined two series of movies with these damned AvP movies and they are obviously written by people who were not fans of either movies even thought there stories are combined but netherless i dont consider ether mvie apart of either series the aliens movies end at 3 and predator ends at 2!

zombiekilling101
11-04-2007, 04:38 PM
Now for the rant this is the finalt straw they have fuined two series of movies with these damned AvP movies and they are obviously written by people who were not fans of either movies even thought there stories are combined but netherless i dont consider ether mvie apart of either series the aliens movies end at 3 and predator ends at 2!

nothign was ruined. those movies are still there. Predator.. still a great damn action flick. Aliens.. still a great damn action flick. Now I feel like watching the series.

AVP2 looks sweeeet.

jackskellington
11-05-2007, 09:08 AM
Nice little battle scene with a bit of gore!!!

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/videonews.php?id=3237

jackskellington
12-11-2007, 05:05 PM
First 5 Minutes!!!!!!!!

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/a/Aliens-Vs-Predator-Requiem/index-3687454.html

The Blind Dead
12-11-2007, 06:50 PM
This should prove a worthy time waster. :)

hatefuldisplay
12-12-2007, 05:50 PM
I own the first AVP. I've watched it 2 or 3 times. All I can say is I hope that if they don't improve this time, they let the concept die or get redone by someone with a better vision.

nirvroxx
12-26-2007, 12:31 AM
what an ubber cheesy, predictable, horribly directed and acted peice of crap this was. mindless entertainment at its best.:roll:

at least the fx were good.

Mr. Grey
12-26-2007, 02:48 PM
I watched it yesterday. Better than the first but still far from great. There are a few interesting "changes" added but I don't want to give it away.

zombiekilling101
12-26-2007, 04:32 PM
Ive got 2 free tickets and might use them for this.. nothign else out really

nirvroxx
12-26-2007, 06:43 PM
Ive got 2 free tickets and might use them for this.. nothign else out really

dude, watch "no country for old men" instead...waaaay better flick. not the same category, but just so much better on every level. very good modern western type flick. do it todd!

Kemper
12-27-2007, 01:30 PM
It was a good movie with some good violence...It delivers on most expectations.

jackskellington
12-27-2007, 06:24 PM
After reading negative review after negative review, I think I'll be waiting on DVD for this one.

nirvroxx
12-27-2007, 06:41 PM
After reading negative review after negative review, I think I'll be waiting on DVD for this one.

yeah, wish I woulda done the same.

Godzilla_Rules
01-05-2008, 09:56 PM
i saw this today and I was disapointed. many loopholes and characters that were just thrown into the film that did not seem to fit in the story in anyway. i will not talk about it for i know i tend to accidentally spoil movies so if anyone wants detailed infomation on why i thought this movie sucked can pm me. A few aspects of the movie was good but this film had the potential to be so much more.

Crombie
01-06-2008, 05:14 PM
I was kind of pissed off that most of the major "shocker" deaths were covered in the trailer. Matter of fact I think all of them are.
This really detracted from the "no one is safe" aspect of the movie. Otherwise it was a decent way to kill an hour and a bit
Not that my note there really spoils much, but it gives some perspective on the trailer.

zombiekilling101
01-20-2008, 06:18 PM
I saw it a couple days ago and I was dissapointed. I wasnt expecting it to be great but at least on par with the "somewhat ok" AVP.

There were alot of human characters that didnt need the amount of screentime. Should have picked 1 or 2 humans to hopefully root for instead of 4 or 5.

The fights between the aliens and pred (who was a badass this time) didnt have the run time they should have. They were too quick and it didnt really seem like predator was trying. Oh and the Army NAT guard comes and gets wooped, but of course the teen that gets beaten up fairs ok once he gets the army equipment.

Liked the ending although it was obvious it was coming.

minor ending spoiler
was that chick that was given the gun at the end supposed to be an alien or something?

3.5/10

Solaar
01-21-2008, 01:24 AM
minor ending spoiler
was that chick that was given the gun at the end supposed to be an alien or something?

3.5/10

Nope, she's part of the Yentendi (spelling mistake there) company that founded the Bishop androids or weapons system - either one, I can't remember and I'm just on the way out the door to work.

I caught this film yesterday and I loved it - it took everything AVP should have been and ran with it - even expanding on the Alien mythos (via the hybrid's use of pregnant women). I feel it even toned down the use of CGI and bought the old Predators back instead of the "Wrestlemania" versions of the last film IMO.

If you haven't seen it - go - you've only got a couple hours of your life to lose :)

Solaar
a fan

zombiekilling101
01-21-2008, 02:04 AM
Nope, she's part of the Yentendi (spelling mistake there) company that founded the Bishop androids or weapons system - either one, I can't remember and I'm just on the way out the door to work.



ahhh ok. Cool info thanks

goesaround
01-22-2008, 12:22 AM
Well, I gotta tell ya. I went with my 20 something son and we both thought it was among the 5 worst movies we ever saw. The fight is the first one were at least viewable!The editing was so bad. It was like they edited ten differnt people ten years apart edited it. The acting was laughable. People were killed just for gore. Nothing Nada zip zilch. Effects sucked. I'm a story freak well there was no story. In the first you threw your cars in with the Predator. Here you threw your cards AT the Predator. This sucked!!!!!!!! What a shame to insult two brilliant sci-fi series.

jackskellington
01-22-2008, 12:25 AM
I'm definitely glad as hell that I didn't go see this one in the theater, but I'm so morbidly curious about it that I'm dying to rent it as soon as the DVD hits!!:loon:

goesaround
01-22-2008, 03:16 PM
I dont blame you. I would too, if I had not seen it. I'm telling you the first one was like a Ingemar Bergman film, compared to this. Land of the Dead, was like Night of the Living Dead compared to this. Man,was this bad.

jackskellington
02-29-2008, 02:09 AM
Hitting DVD on April 15th. I'll more than likely rent it so I can see what's so terrible about it.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/jackskellington70/Random/avp2.jpg

zombiekilling101
02-29-2008, 02:23 AM
I think I saw everything I need to see in the theater.. sigh