Undead

[DeadDora]

Hey, I just watched this flick.. an Aussie zombie movie. Did anyone see it? Kinda weird... aliens AND zombies. Definately different.

[~HorrorCore~]

The alien/zombie thing has been touched on before (see Wild Zero). I've yet to get my hands on Undead yet... hopefully it will be comming out in the states within the next few months.

[DeadDora]

I bought the copy on ebay. Ten bucks included shipping, but it was a copy.

[~HorrorCore~]

yeah I'm not too big on e-bay right now... some whore ripped my friend off. So I'm on e-bay hiatious :lol:

I did get a sickass Thunder Cats belt buckle though :rock:

[hatefuldisplay]

I bought the copy on ebay. Ten bucks included shipping, but it was a copy. I saw the one you're talking about. I'm holding out for the time being. If I buy a bootleg, it's going to be a bootleg with all the DVD features on it.

[Bad Zombie Night]

* * * Go Away - Possible Spoilers * * *

I bought the copy on ebay. Ten bucks included shipping, but it was a copy.

I bought my bootleg copy off of Ebay, but it was a very good copy. You sound a little "iffy" about the movie. I thought it was OK, but a lot of people gave this film exceptionally high ratings. IMO, there was a little bit too much going on, in one movie. Space ships, acid rain, streams of light coming down from the sky, rolling clouds of smoke, pitch fork shotguns, and of course Zombies. Will it ever stop! Like I said, an OK film, not 5 out of 5, or 4 out of 5 stars.

[RIP]

When will Undead come out on Region 1 dvd here in the States?

[Joe Ghoul]

Dora,

Who did you buy it off of? Did they have more copies for sale? I need to get this movie!

[Bad Zombie Night]

Joe, do a search on Ebay. They usually always have some up, but beware, Ebay is out there canceling these type of auctions.
One more thing. The're also selling the Aussie region 4 disc, and I've seen it go for over a hundred bucks. If you have any problems, just PM me. :dollar:

When will Undead come out on Region 1 dvd here in the States?

I'm not sure, but I think the're talking about having a possible theater release here this summer, but don't quote me on that.

[Darth Abominus]

I've seen it but I'm still looking for a copy. Any region. Doesn't matter to me.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Region is not an issue for me either, just paying over $100 is. :dollar:

[Darth Abominus]

I hear you, man. Even I draw a line when it comes to money. :dollar:

[DeadDora]

I bought mine from : lastsonofkrypton31 . It was a good copy, good quality.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Dora, I've brought so many bootleg movies off Ebay, their screen names become a burr. :?
But all as well, I'm pretty sure someone can use the tip. :D

[Sadogoat]

I got a copy off a work colleague. It's almost pristine DVD quality and I'm quite happy to keep it until I can buy the official release (whenever that's due out in the UK).

[Joe Ghoul]

BZN and Dora,

Thanks for the info. I may go shopping tonight. :D

[Darth Abominus]

Ditto for me. What's your Ebay name, Joe, so I don't end up bidding against you?

[Bad Zombie Night]

Just remember Joe, to always check your references, even on Ebay.
If the seller has an excellent seller rating, and enough sales, then go for it. Also, don't over pay for any auction, wait 'em out if you have to. They'll always be more auctions. :dollar: :dollar: :dollar:

[Darth Abominus]

Good advice, BZN. I personally won't give someone the time of day if they have a shady rating. I got screwed over once. On the other hand, the other hundreds of transactions I've been a part of have been smooth.

[Joe Ghoul]

Darth,

I don't have one. I'm not a big online shopper. 99% of what I want, I can usually get through work. I'll let you know after I register though. Don't want to screw a ATZ comrade over.

BZN,

Thanks for the advice. As stated above, I'm not experienced on Ebay. I may ask your opinions when I start.

Thanks guys.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Feel free to ask anytime Joe. I've been ripped off several times, and some had excellent Ebay ratings. So I thought. But don't worry, the overwhelming majority of Ebay transactions, went very smoothly.

[Darth Abominus]

Yea, definitely seek our advice if you have any Ebay questions. I sell and buy. Been doing it for years. :wink:

[Dead Aim]

I have been wanting to see Undead for a while now....

:drinking: congrats on the belt buckle HorrorCore!

Yeah I'm a bit late on that....

[Darth Abominus]

:drinking: congrats on the belt buckle HorrorCore!

Yeah I'm a bit late on that....

Don't feel bad. I'm so late that I have no idea what belt buckle you're talking about. :)

[DocZomby]

When will Undead come out on Region 1 dvd here in the States?

Kev, do you know the answer to this one?

[Darth Abominus]

When will Undead come out on Region 1 dvd here in the States?

Kev, do you know the answer to this one?

I'm guessing you guys don't have region-free dvd players. I should make a thread and post dvd hacks so everyone can make their players region-free. Then no one would have to worry about when a movie is coming to region 1 anymore. :mrgreen:

[Bad Zombie Night]

Yeah but region hacks are not gonna help very much, if you have PAL discs. You're also going to need a PAL-->NTSC converter. Are region 4 discs in PAL? :think:

[Darth Abominus]

That's not necessarily true. I have PAL discs and they work fine on my player.

[Bad Zombie Night]

You know why?
You probably have a converter already built into the player. They are not really anymore expensive, than those rip off region 1 only players. I have a 2 Daewoo 5800s, and they cost me less than $90. The converter's were already there, all I had to do was hack out the region. By doing this, the manufacturers can program the DVD players, to what ever region specification they want, before it leaves the factory. And they really think their so smart.
Pleeeeeeeease!

[DocZomby]

I have no clue what you guys are talking about. :oops:

[Darth Abominus]

You know why?
You probably have a converter already built into the player. They are not really anymore expensive, than those rip off region 1 only players. I have a 2 Daewoo 5800s, and they cost me less than $90. The converter's were already there, all I had to do was hack out the region. By doing this, the manufacturers can program the DVD players, to what ever region specification they want, before it leaves the factory. And they really think their so smart.
Pleeeeeeeease!

Yea, I have the converter builit in already. I'd been stockpiling Region 2 and Region 6 movies for ages. Now I can finally watch them all. It's really neat.

[Mervin Chip Chipperson]

yeah my dvd player can play pretty much whatever I throw at it too

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/

has a list of dvd players you can buy, that you can "hack" into becoming region free with your remote, or at least thats how I decided what to buy

is there a non-ebay way to import this?

[Bad Zombie Night]

Not too long ago, I threw out a few of my older DVD players, that didn't have converters built right into them. If I wanted to watch any PAL discs, I had a separate converter placed between the DVD player, and the TV. I still used it with my VCRs, until I bought a Samsung World Wide video recorder, that has a built in PAL conveter, so you can watch VHS tapes. It can also record in any format I wish, including SECAM.

I bought all this equipment, over the past few years, because I saw a lot of horror flicks, that caught my interest on Blackstar.co.uk (Now called sendit.com). Once I knew that my system was incompatible, with the European system, I started investigating ways to change all that. I really like having the freedom to view whatever I want, without having to worry about what video format the film is in.

[Darth Abominus]

I really like having the freedom to view whatever I want, without having to worry about what video format the film is in.

Yea, it's great. That's all I've been watching lately. A bunch of Region 2 discs that I've had, but been unable to watch until recently.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Oh yeah. I haven't bought any region 2 discs in quite a while, because I needed to catch up on other movies, I already have.
What are some of the titles you've watched recently? Don't say "Beaches." :(

[Darth Abominus]

Just some wrestling stuff. And Braindead.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Oh Really? Was it Amateur Wrestling, Professional Wrestling, or Women's Mud Wrestling? :P

[Sadogoat]

Oh yeah. I haven't bought any region 2 discs in quite a while, because I needed to catch up on other movies, I already have.
What are some of the titles you've watched recently? Don't say "Beaches." :(

You could always pick up both series of Spaced - infact they're just re-releasing both as a double-disc set (http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=163154&p=57&c=&g =72) here in the UK. Should keep you amused (and prepared) for when Shaun Of The Dead heads your way. And there's zombies in it (Episode #3) if that's extra incentive.... :D

[Dogg Thang]

Heyyyyy...there's nothing about Undead in here at all... :shock:

Heh, I'm still waiting for that official dvd release. I loved it!

Dogg.

[DocZomby]

Back on topic:

I keep hearing that this is a good flick. What's the premise? Just the highlights please, I don't like knowing an entire flick before I see it for the first time.

[Sadogoat]

Basically, strange meteorites are falling from the sky and landing around the small and quiet town of Berkeley, Australia - causing the locals to turn into rabid flesh-eating undead. The story follows an ex-pageant queen (now destitute after her farm is repossessed), a local 'crazy' (who claims to have been abducted by aliens years earlier), a young couple (of which the girl is pregnant), and two cops (one of which can't say a sentence without including profanity). Circumstances throw this motley lot together in a bid to survive against the undead. However, they soon find out that there's alot more going on than just a mere zombie outbreak.

It's a great little film and I really enjoyed it. There's decent amounts of gore, and the zombie makeup is very effective. Probably one of the highlights is the aforementioned 'local crazy' fighting it out against zombie fish. Yes, you read that correctly :mrgreen:

[DocZomby]

Thaks for the scoop! Looking forward to it now more than ever. I don't care for the pregnant woman zombie trend. I think it's a cheap shot at the audience. :roll:

[Sadogoat]

Yeah, well this film doesn't have any zombie babies in it :)

[DocZomby]

Good to know. :wink:

[Darth Abominus]

Me and BZN should start a fan club devoted to zombie babies since they get no love whatsoever on this board. :lol:

[Joe Ghoul]

I second that. I love seeing zombie or kid zombies. I hate it when horror movies don't kill kids off like everyone else. Not that I sit around and dream about killing kids. Its just that I hate seeing anyone in a horror movie that you know has 0% chance of getting killed. Kids and old people need to take their chances like everyone else.

[Crypt Keeper]

If someone I knew well or cared about alot became a zombie and started coming towards me, you have no idea how fast my conscience would dissappear.

[Sadogoat]

Kids and old people need to take their chances like everyone else.

Yeah, we need more flicks like The Blob remake, or Mimic. Both films didn't spare the kids from gruesome fates....

[Darth Abominus]

Kids and old people need to take their chances like everyone else.

Yeah, we need more flicks like The Blob remake, or Mimic. Both films didn't spare the kids from gruesome fates....

The Blob remake sucked until the blob ate that one annoying kid. Kick-ass scene! :)

[Sadogoat]

Nah, I liked The Blob remake alot more than the original. It was filmed in true B-movie style intentionally, and it worked for the most part despite its inherent cheese factor. The scene where the guy got sucked down the kitchen sink plughole was memorable too.... :D

[Darth Abominus]

It was okay, but I liked the original better. The only thing the remake did better was the death scenes. I have it and watch it occasionally, though.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Yeah. I forget, but I remember the critics saying that the original was a real low budgeter, considering the bloby special effects they used. I thought that the original really lagged in some places, so I wasn't so crazy about it. Hey, when you have a clump of strawberry jelly as your monster, you've gotta make it as exciting as possible.
One film, I thought you forgot to mention was: Beware! The Blob. Originally, before I watched the film, I figured it was gonna be one of those borefest sequels. Once I saw it though, I found it much more entertaining than the original. Talk about cheesy dialogue, and acting? This film really had it all, plus there were much more blob assaulted victims.

[Darth Abominus]

I wouldn't mind seeing a sequel to The Blob remake. How long has it been now? 15 years or so? We could use another one. :mrgreen:

[Bad Zombie Night]

Well, I'll bet Darth you're gonna have to wait another 15 years, unless Troma is given the permission to handle it. :puke:
I just don't think the blob appeals, to the main stream horror public anymore. :(
If you did have a sequel, what direction would you take the story?
Maybe have the blob devour Tokyo, perhaps?

[Darth Abominus]

I would actually like to see the blob get loose in a big city. The remake was set in a small town. I'd like to see the sequel set in NYC or L.A. Throw in some boobage and Matrix-style flying FX and we'd have a winner. :mrgreen:

[Jason Voorhees]

The Blob = Bad

Undead = Good

Staying on topic = Lost Art

http://www.allthingszombie.com/images/jvsmily.gif

[Darth Abominus]

BZN, you got us off-topic again. You should be put in the time-out corner. Or made to sit on Jason's lap. :evil:

So anyways, back to Undead.

[Bad Zombie Night]

BZN, you got us off-topic again. You should be put in the time-out corner. Or made to sit on Jason's lap. :evil:

So anyways, back to Undead.

I go for the time-out corner, if you don't mind.

# Just an observation, but doesn't Jason sound a lot like Frankenstein? Fire = Bad, Cigars = Good.


Back on Topic:

I never really cared of Undead, :puke: and I believed it was a little overrated. If Dawn would've came out sooner, I think people's eyes would've been opened a little wider, and saw it for what it really was. That's what happens sometimes, when you're really desperate for something.
Anyone have anything else they wish to add? Difference of opinion? :x

[Darth Abominus]

That's actually an interesting way to put it, BZN. It makes alot of sense.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Like I said before.
I don't hate the movie, it's OK IMO. Dead Kev, I think gave it 4 1/2 out of 5 stars. I believe that's awfully damn high for that movie. I'm only guessing then, he's giving Dawn 5 out of 5, but I haven't checked the reviews section for quite a while.

[Sadogoat]

I quite enjoyed Undead (still have a rip DVD copy from ages back). Sure, it wasn't a classic - but it was fun, and certainly well-made considering their limited budget. For all it's problems, it could have been just another run-of-the-mill half-assed zombie flick but the Speirig Brothers obviously tried to do something a little different with it. Granted, the resultant clash of genres (zombie holocaust & alien invasion) probably made the film a little more messy and confusing than it should have been - but overall I thought it was a decent effort. It's just a shame that quite a few plot elements went pretty much wholly unexplained.

Cast-wise I don't have too many gripes. The lead, Mungo McKay, makes for a curious protagonist - although I found some of his completely deadpan dialogue delivery to be a bit wince-inducing at times. He's been compared to Ash of Evil Dead but I don't quite think he's in the league of Brucie. However, he DOES have a pretty kickass shotgun (albeit underused in the film) and the scene in which he combats zombie fish is comedy gold (IMO at least).

The rest of the cast aren't too bad - certainly for a bunch of virtual unknowns. Felicity Mason does a pretty decent job as Rene (the female lead) and Dirk Hunter is, by turns, both amusing and annoying (sometimes his shrieking curses are almost incoherent). He does, however, get some of the best lines in the movie:

"When I was a kid, we f*ckin' respected our parents, we didn't f*ckin' eat 'em!"

"I'll f*ckin' finish you off faster than a f*ckin' birthday cake at a fat chick's f*ckin' birthday party!"

But overall, it's a pretty good little indie film (better than most I've seen) - reminiscent of Peter Jackson's earlier days (Bad Taste and Braindead), yet not quite as good as either of them.

[Darth Abominus]

Like I said before.
I don't hate the movie, it's OK IMO. Dead Kev, I think gave it 4 1/2 out of 5 stars. I believe that's awfully damn high for that movie. I'm only guessing then, he's giving Dawn 5 out of 5, but I haven't checked the reviews section for quite a while.

I can only think of a handful of movies I'd give a 5 out of 5. That's not a rating you can just give out to any old movie. But I'd definitely give Dawn a 5. :wink:

[Bad Zombie Night]

I agree with you totally, Darth. I think, I've said something similar like this before, but a lot of Zombie critics, give these flicks 4 out of 5, like they were giving away candy. a 4 rating, is still a very good film, and I'll betcha that if you asked the same people to rate 50 Zombie films at random, you most likely not see a balance in their critiques.

[Darth Abominus]

I think when it comes right down to it, the ONLY zombie flick I'd give a 5 to is Dawn of the Dead. To me, a 5 is something special. Like Day of the Dead. Good movie, but not great. It's probably a 3 out of 5, IMO.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Yep, that's the same rating I give Undead, 3 out 5. Better than average, but not all that great. :mrgreen:

[Darth Abominus]

My rating system is:

1 - bad
2 - fair
3 - good
4 - great
5 - true classic

I'd give Undead a 2.5 or 3.

[CChenery]

For me the music killed it. :x A serious moment scored by circus music is just bad editing. It was too stereotypical Australian for me. The characters played into the Australian stereotype too much. For the budget it wsasn't bad. But I had watched the original Dawn an hour before hand. I guess I kinda screwed myself and set my hope up too high! :)

[Darth Abominus]

But I had watched the original Dawn an hour before hand. I guess I kinda screwed myself and set my hope up too high! :)

That's understandable. Dawn is a true classic.

[Bad Zombie Night]

My hopes were set too high, because people were saying it was the best thing in the last 10 years, and they were also drawing comparisons to Dead Alive. Phooey! :x

[...Boo...]

I totally agree with you guys......Undead was extremely over-rated. The thing that frustrated me the most was that we had 20 min of full on shooting at zombies before they realise that 1 well placed head shot was all that was needed to put them down for good.

Come on......Aussies aren't that dumb, are they? Or did the Spierig brothers want to make out that they were??

[Dogg Thang]

Hmmm, if you didn't know zombie lore how quickly do you honestly think you'd figure that out?

Dogg.

[Darth Abominus]

My hopes were set too high, because people were saying it was the best thing in the last 10 years, and they were also drawing comparisons to Dead Alive. Phooey! :x

Yea, that was total BS. It's a good movie, nothing more.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Hmmm, if you didn't know zombie lore how quickly do you honestly think you'd figure that out?

Dogg.
It's called 1 + 1 = 2.
If you put 99 rounds of amamo into a Zombie, but the 100th round knocks him dead, then I'd say you figured it out.

[Dogg Thang]

I didn't see them put 99 rounds into any zombie in Undead to rule out every part except for the head. Not even taking into account that Australians aren't as trigger-happy as Americans (how many people in Undead even had 100 rounds of anything to empty into a zombie?), something tells me in an attack situation (remembering that ruled out prior zombie knowledge) panic would inhibit analytical skills just a little bit. There is no reason to think that an average person would make that connection instantly.

Dogg.

[Darth Abominus]

I'm either drunk or I missed a post somewhere, but what in the hell are you guys talking about? :-|

[...Boo...]

something tells me in an attack situation (remembering that ruled out prior zombie knowledge) panic would inhibit analytical skills just a little bit. There is no reason to think that an average person would make that connection instantly.

Dogg.

My thoughts exactly............and that's the reason why I found this movie very frustrating to watch. That and the fact that a zombie could be changed back to normal with the alien beam of light.

I like it when film makers try to be a bit inventive, but I just didn't think it worked in this case.

[Darth Abominus]

I like it when film makers try to be a bit inventive, but I just didn't think it worked in this case.

Inventive can be good. Sometimes the genre needs to be tinkered with.

[Bad Zombie Night]

I didn't see them put 99 rounds into any zombie in Undead to rule out every part except for the head. Not even taking into account that Australians aren't as trigger-happy as Americans (how many people in Undead even had 100 rounds of anything to empty into a zombie?), something tells me in an attack situation (remembering that ruled out prior zombie knowledge) panic would inhibit analytical skills just a little bit. There is no reason to think that an average person would make that connection instantly.

Dogg.
I'm sorry Dogg, you didn't note my air of sarcasm in that the post. Why else would I choose an arbitrary number like 99 anyway? Maybe it's one short of 100 possibly? I'm not exactly sure how many bullets were fired, but you would probably have watch the film into slo-mo, in order to get a fairly accurate count. Did you try that already?

[Darth Abominus]

I'm not exactly sure how many bullets were fired, but you would probably have watch the film into slo-mo, in order to get a fairly accurate count. Did you try that already?

Out of all the geeks on this board, someone has to have done that already. :)

[~HorrorCore~]

I think all of us have done that at one point or another... to whatever movie was giving us "the happies" :D

I know I've done it to Evil Dead just to pick out makeup muck-ups :shock:

[Darth Abominus]

Yea, I've counted blaster bolts in Star Wars before. Anyways, back to Undead. :mrgreen:

[Bad Zombie Night]

Yea, I've counted blaster bolts in Star Wars before.
Oh yeah, how many were there? :?

[Darth Abominus]

I stopped counting after 100. Now back on topic before the Masked One comes. :mrgreen:

[Bad Zombie Night]

Allright, enough about freakin' Star Wars.

Let's get back on topic dammit!

One thing I mentioned on the old board, was how they mistreated they character Marion in the film. Several reviews compared him to a Clint Eastward type, or hero role in the story, but he wound up taking a back seat to the other bone heads. I think they took a very likable character, and let him fade away from the hero's role.

[Darth Abominus]

I agree. The character had alot of unrealized potential. It's unfortunate. I would have liked to have seen more from him.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Well put Darth.
Many people hack on his acting, or the short lines he's given to read, but that's his personality. He's a bit of a loner, but he knows when it's time to take control, and kick ass. That's why I can't understand, why he dealt with those two keystone cops in that manner.
Do you think Clint Eastwood or Charlton Heston, would take a back seat to those two boobs?

[Darth Abominus]

Dirty Clint would have busted some caps in someone's ass. Chuck would have started screaming bad lines like a f*cking maniac. :)

[Alien]

I just downloaded this film and watched it..................I suppose you can guess what i thought of it. I'm just starting to wonder what people are playing at these days or is there just something wrong with me for finding all these films disgraceful? I'm sorry I just can't help my feelings.


:(

[Sadogoat]

I just downloaded this film and watched it..................I suppose you can guess what i thought of it. I'm just starting to wonder what people are playing at these days or is there just something wrong with me for finding all these films disgraceful? I'm sorry I just can't help my feelings.


:(

No, I guess it's just a matter of taste. I didn't mind Undead and I loved Shaun Of The Dead (and not - as you suggested - "just because it had zombies in it"). You evidently didn't like either. On the other hand, I wasn't that impressed with 28 Days Later. Different strokes for different folks. The world would be a much more boring place if everyone liked the same things.

[TheBlueGhoul]

I thought Undead was alright, like people have said before - I think it did try to fit alot of things into just one film. The movie itself looked great for it's budget, though.

Overall, it was entertaining.

[Darth Abominus]

The world would be a much more boring place if everyone liked the same things.

Good call. I actually love the variety of opinions on this board. We all agree to disagree, but in the end it's always about the love, man. :hug:

[corgi37]

The love of zombies, horror and gore. Good, bad or indifferent, at least zombie movies are getting made. It was pretty quiet for such a long time. We could be in the middle of a golden age at the moment, especially if old GAR gets his 4th one made. What an icing on a zombie-comeback cake that would be.

[Alien]

Just watched Undead again, god it's so crap it's disturbing.

:shock:

[Bad Zombie Night]

You mean that you didn't like the pop-up Zombies?

Those were the ones Marion shot, and they got right back up.

[CChenery]

I downloaded this film to see what the big deal was about. I thought it was awful. The lead female was cute but that was about it. The acting was atrocious. The music was comedic at best. Totally unsuitable for the atmosphere and it played into almost all of the australian stereotypes. Saying "streuth, there's a bloody big zombie over there", reminded me a australian sopa operas. I like it when directors tweak with the genre a bit, like fast zombies etc... but the alien aspect just annoys me.

I really wish someone would do a zombie movie right. DOTD 04, while being really good, had so much more potential...

[Alien]

Undead is just a joke, a pathetic joke.

[DocZomby]

Was it as bad as house of the dead? I mean, will I get a kick out of making fun of it?

[Dogg Thang]

How people love 28 Days Later and hate Undead is beyond me. But it simply illustrates how wrong you people can be. Joke of course, it illustrates how different our tastes can be so, DocZomby, I'd say just watch it with an open mind. You'll either like it or you won't.

I loved it, I thought it was great fun. At least every laugh in Undead was deliberate.

Dogg.

[CChenery]

Well anything looks good compared to house of the dead!!! That was a total suckfest.

The hype for undead so so high and I finally saw it and thought it was crap. Yes, you can make fun of it a lot!

[Dogg Thang]

Hmmm, maybe I got lucky by seeing it before much of the hype kicked in. I barely knew anything about it until I saw it last year.

Dogg.

[DocZomby]

Sounds like I should see it. I just don't know when I'll have the chance. Any suggestions for a yank like myself?

[Dogg Thang]

Hmmm, not sure. For the people who had their first viewing by downloading it, is it a perfect digital transfer rather than a video camera in theatre jobby?. I'm sure even if you never like the film, that it wouldn't help having your first viewing of it be a low quality movie file on your computer. You'd have to find out what the quality is like.

I got the big screen experience, which would have at least made viewing conditions ideal. If there is any whiff of it ever going to cinema in the US, I'd say wait. If you like it, then it will be worth the wait. If you don't like it then you can be content in the knowledge that you weren't missing anything. Maybe it will play at a horror festival near you at some stage?

If it never makes it to cinema there, well the Australian dvd will be out eventually...

Dogg.

[DocZomby]

I'm sure it will end up on DVD out here at the very least.

[CChenery]

It was a digital version. I won't even watch cam versions! You can't give a fair review with a handheld cam version! Besides they are really annoying! The picture was crystal clear. But it couldn't make the film any better!!! LOL

[Alien]

How people love 28 Days Later and hate Undead is beyond me.
Dogg.


Well it wouldn't be beyond 99.9 percent of the population. God that's a strange and funny opinion you have.


"UNDEAD BETTER THAN 28 DAYS!!!!!!"........this is not realistic.


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[corgi37]

i'm not biased because i am Aussie, but i think Undead was pretty cool. Jeez, it was made for $500,000 U.S., what do ya want? Gone with the fricking wind? It was a 1st up effort, using unskilled amateur local "middle of shit-ville" actors (and mates, does it tell!), but it was a good romp. I think the main problem everyone has...


SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






... is the alien shit at the end. Hey, i too was a bit pissed off, but then it went on a whole weird tangent, that maybe annoyed us "zombie, and zombie only, and while we are at it, Romero zombie only" die-hards, but it got me hooked. I though it was quite original. Better we Aussies have a go at something like this, than Crocodile Dundee 3. Oh, and (non zombie topic) seeing as how we are kinda taking over the whole movie making business at the moment, best to be nice to us. I mean, ****ing hell, Hugh Jackman, Eric Bana, Nicole Kidman, Heath Ledger, Naomi Watts, David Wenham... heaps of filming in OZ, heaps of Aussie directors, and Aussie now the boss of McDonalds, an AUssie only recently retired in charge of FORD..Man forget the Martians, its us bastards ya gotta be wary of.

[Alien]

Saying "Undead" is better than 28 days is like saying "Beyond" is better than Dawn04. Not very realistic I'm afraid and surely hard for many to agree? Oh well..........maybe it's me?

[Bad Zombie Night]

Better we Aussies have a go at something like this, than Crocodile Dundee 3.
LOL! There was a Crocodile Dundee 3! It was called Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0231402/).


I don't think Undead was a bad film, but as I've said before, I don't give it 5 out of 5, or 4 out of 5 stars. It was a better than average Zombie flick, with some new twists, and turns in it.

I agree with Alien about 28 Days Later, being much better than Undead. The one difference anyone notices, about the two films, is the acting. The performances given in 28 Days Later, were far better than Undead.

[Sadogoat]

The one difference anyone notices, about the two films, is the acting. The performances given in 28 Days Later, were far better than Undead.

This is because the cast in 28 Days Later were professionals with track records. The cast of Undead were all amateurs with virtually no previous experience. Obviously, this will make a difference.

[Dogg Thang]

Well I can't argue the acting point as 28 Days Later had some great acting. However, I do think both films had actors that let them down and it was that much more crippling in 28 Days because it was meant to be so serious. By having a bit of a laugh with the whole thing, I think the makers of Undead bought themselves a bit of leeway that other, more serious, films wouldn't have got away with.

But them I could be biased simply because I find bad Australian actors hilarious. In fact one of Undead's major failings in my opinion was not having flaming Alf Stewert from the comedy show Home and Away.

Ya flamin' gala!

Dogg.

[Bad Zombie Night]

This is because the cast in 28 Days Later were professionals with track records. The cast of Undead were all amateurs with virtually no previous experience. Obviously, this will make a difference.
Likewise, I've seen seasoned actors completely ruin a film because they were out of their element.

[Sadogoat]

Likewise, I've seen seasoned actors completely ruin a film because they were out of their element.

And then there's the third scenario - the presence of a seasoned (and well-liked) actor who, among a cast of otherwise incompetants, brings a small modicum of dignity to an otherwise shabby film. Christopher Walken and Lance Henriksen are two good examples that I constantly see mentioned in this regard.

But then, on the other hand, there are scenarios like veteran Jurgen Prochnow being stuck in (and unable to redeem) absolute Z-grade dross like House Of The Dead. :-|

[Bad Zombie Night]

LoL! :lol:
How very true.
You get no argument for me.

[Alien]

Undead was just a silly film. Things coming out the sky and the stupid thing at the end where they had to climb up that wall??? I'm sorry but I really find it difficult to see anything good about this film. It was really stupid and the acting was just appauling. How you can compare this with 28 days is obviously beyomg belief it's just not realistic.

I know you don't like me saying this but it is true that Undead would appeal to a very small minority of the population and hardly anyone would probably even sit through a film like this. Look, I'm not telling anyone what to think here and for heavens sake just grow up and stop accusiong me of disrespecting people just become I'm being realistic! Undead is just like Fulci films and most of all the other krap that gives zombies films a bad name.

However if someone decides to like films like this then fine, I have nothing against them and I don't disrespect them in any way. I must confess I do find it quite hard to understand how some people like films like this and that's probably because I've always found it hard to find people that do like these kind of films. Weather you like it or not, films like Undead are never going to be poular.

[grifflik]

Likewise, I've seen seasoned actors completely ruin a film because they were out of their element.

And then there's the third scenario - the presence of a seasoned (and well-liked) actor who, among a cast of otherwise incompetants, brings a small modicum of dignity to an otherwise shabby film. Christopher Walken and Lance Henriksen are two good examples that I constantly see mentioned in this regard.

Oh! And Sean Connery! Don't forget him - he's had a few! Anyone besides me see "Sir Gawain and the Green Knight" for example? And (dare I say it) I don't think "Highlander" would have been as popular without him.

But then, on the other hand, there are scenarios like veteran Jurgen Prochnow being stuck in (and unable to redeem) absolute Z-grade dross like House Of The Dead. :-|

Yea, oh how the the mighty sometimes fall. :(

A bit off topic, but this also brings to mind a body of actors that now do (more or less)strictly straight to DVD films....films that you see on the shelf at the video store, see their name - and you instantly know the overall quality of the film. I'm thinking the likes of Dean Cain, Judd Nelson, Oliver Gruner, Lorenzo Lamas, Eric Roberts, etc..

[Dogg Thang]

And, of course, you can add Highlander's Christopher Lambert to that list. He's a straight to dvd king these days.


Dogg.

[corgi37]

Comparing 28 Days to Undead is plain dumb. It's like comparing the Godfather to Animal House. My post on the 28 days later is the best effort so far says what i think. Undead isnt to be taken seriously, where as, 28 Days Late is. There can be an argument 28 Days Later takes itself a little too seriously. There is room in this world for both movies.

[Bad Zombie Night]

There is room in this world for both movies.
Agreed. :mrgreen:


28 Days Later -->:hug:<-- Undead

[flenser]

Comparing 28 Days to Undead is plain dumb. It's like comparing the Godfather to Animal House.

That is soooo true.

Animal House is such an excellent film. :mrgreen:

[Alien]

Yeah it is plain dumb to compare the 2 films.

[Darth Abominus]

There is room in this world for both movies.
Agreed. :mrgreen:


28 Days Later -->:hug:<-- Undead

Good call, guys. I don't see what all the fuss is about. I liked them both to some extent. :drinking:

[Helu]

Heres the thing, 28 days later is most assuradly the better film, however I enjoyed Undead a lot more than it. If I just want to watch a fun zombie movie, Undead will always come before 28 days.

So basing movies on their cinematic vaule alone, obnviously Undead would get a lower rating than 28 days. But if the rating includes both enjoyment and cinematic vaule I think they would be about even overall.

I liked Undead it ncluded a fun little twist. I did not think it was quite as good as I have heard, but I definately want to get the dvd. I still think Dawn 04 was better. Likewise, while I'm at it. Dawn 04 is more enjoyable than the original but the original is the better film. As far s movies go the original only beets it ovarall because it's a classic.

I'm sorry but I am going to watch an enjoyable movie more than I am a good but too serious for it's own good one. I sometimes regret buying 28 days because I watch very little, wereas Resident Evil, why not as good, I have watched at least 3 times as much.

Also, a major part of Undead is comedy, and comedy has to be rated differently than a serious film liek 28 days later.

[corgi37]

Just as the nudity in Titanic cannot be compared to the nudity in Bikini Drive-In.

[Zombie-A-GoGo]

Look at all these Undead threads. Eeek.

[corgi37]

I cant believe its only coming out, well i mean, i cant believe its not out yet. God, buy it on dvd!! In a quirk of fate, i've discovered on this board that most of you lovely Yanks dont have multi-zone dvd players. I guess, 99% of the time, you dont need them.

Otherwise, why dont you all just buy the dvd? Our Oz dollar is .77c to the greenback. Places like ezydvd.com.au should have it, and it should be cheap as chips.

The dvd has some good extras. To be honest, i would rather watch it on dvd than the cinemas.

And, to think, the film is 4 years old!

[The TRUE lord of the dead]

what up with this movie that has a picture on the title of a guy with three shutguns straped together. i think its call the undead. I saw the review/preview on this website about it. i heard on it that it was quite a good movie. for anyone who has gotten to preview it could you tell me what its all about and what makes it so good.

[Pain]

Go to the Undead thread, there are pages of us talking about it

[Send_More_Cops]

Undead is a good film, I have it on dvd ;)

[rob of the dead]

Anyone know anything about this moive it looks good and heard that the zombie are slow moving...

[The Blind Dead]

comedy has to be rated differently than a serious film
No it doesn't. There's no reason why a zombie film with comedic overtones shouldn't be compared to a humorless zombie film.

I'd also like to point out that 28 Days Later is not a zombie film.

[Divided Soul]

No it doesn't. There's no reason why a zombie film with comedic overtones shouldn't be compared to a humorless zombie film.

I'd also like to point out that 28 Days Later is not a zombie film.

Well not in the GAR world but the under the terms of Vodoo or the Vodoun religion they could be classified as zombies... Please bear in mind that Vodoo zombies are neither dead nor do they eat flesh... :)

[Ellis]

I have never seen the flick, but what's up with the scene with the bajillion zombies at the chain link fence?

[Pain]

That would be towards the end of the movie Ellis

[Ellis]

Could I have a little more information? Is there any site where I can find spoilers for it, or a full review of everything?

[HOO-HAA]

I've just picked it up.. Gonna watch it with a fellow zombie-lover tomorrow evening... I'll let you all know what I think..

[SGT. DEATH]

Could I have a little more information? Is there any site where I can find spoilers for it, or a full review of everything?
Did you check Anchor bay thats who will be distributing Undead,This is a greatly underestimated film.The f/x are great,the story is great some of the acting is corney but still enjoyable.The scene with the fence is at the end of the film but its a great show.

[MADMAN]

Region is not an issue for me either, just paying over $100 is. :dollar:


I'm having the same problem with "Split Second". Not a Zombie movie, I know, but the worst part is that it actually was released stateside and they put it on moritorium (I think I spelled it right). :x

[MADMAN]

I'm guessing you guys don't have region-free dvd players. I should make a thread and post dvd hacks so everyone can make their players region-free. Then no one would have to worry about when a movie is coming to region 1 anymore. :mrgreen:


Especially considering that a bunch of the Euro and Japanese releases have cool shit that doesn't go on the R1 DVDs.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Especially considering that a bunch of the Euro and Japanese releases have cool shit that doesn't go on the R1 DVDs.

I wouldn't count on him replying to your post.... He hasn't made a post since the Cubs won the World Series.

[MADMAN]

Meh, No biggie.

[Emper0r]

Hey guys, I'm looking for info on Undead on some major websites regarding it's theatre release in the US but I can't find anything, but I heard it was supposed to come out in July? Do you guys know if this is gonna be a full-blown theatre release or if it's just gonna be selected theatres? Please god let it be full theatre relase...

[Pain]

Here you go. Apparently it gets a theatre release on July 1st.

http://movies.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_5506.php/Spierig_Brothers_Talk_Vampires_with_Daybreakers

Just to let you know there is an Undead thread elsewhere on the forum. In fact here it is

http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1098

[Emper0r]

Yeah I know, but I'm trying to find out if it's a limited theatre release or an actual full theatre release.

[The Blind Dead]

According to Fangoria, it's limited.

[jackskellington]

Isn't this like the 3rd or 4th Undead thread?

[Bad Zombie Night]

Isn't this like the 3rd or 4th Undead thread?

LOL! No way dude... :lol: This thread is the original Undead thread.
Did you know it's over a year old?

[Pain]

The Spierigs new film will be out before you guys get Undead at the cinema! :lol:

[Bad Zombie Night]

The Spierigs new film will be out before you guys get Undead at the cinema! :lol:

Have you heard anything about that lately?

[Ravenheart]

I finally got to see this and while it was good,I think it was a little over-rated.Some of the kill scenes were pretty good and I liked the scene at the beginning where the meteor goes through the one guy but I think adding the whole alien thing was a little too much.I think it would have been better if they had just left why there were zombies as a mystery.

[The Blind Dead]

I think it was a little over-rated.
I'm not quite sure this movie could be considered overrated.

[Ravenheart]

I'm not quite sure this movie could be considered overrated.


I just heard on some boards and read in some magazines that this was supposed to have been one of the best zombie movies to have come out over the last few years.It was good but I wouldn't say it was one of the best.

[The Blind Dead]

I just heard on some boards and read in some magazines that this was supposed to have been one of the best zombie movies to have come out over the last few years.It was good but I wouldn't say it was one of the best.
True it wasn't "one of the best" but it was fairly good. Especially when you consider the kind of big & low budget trash we're being fed in horror nowadays.

[Dead Remains]

After watching undead, me and my pal frodish decided to compiled a list of questions that we are confused about concerning the movie.

Here we go.

WHY would she be fish queen?
WHY was he butt naked?
WHY was there only one cow in outer space?
WHY did the rain only hurt sometimes?
WHY did the rain not hurt their hands (they didn't wear gloves)?
WHY waterbombs?
WHY did the pregnant woman argue about being a fish queen?
WHY did the pregnant woman go through the ceiling?
WHY did he want to fly the plane into the moon?
WHY were they zombies in the first place and then healed by the rain?
WHY did they float in the air?
WHY was she only in labor for like two minutes?
WHY did no one know what the hell was going on....no one!?
WHY did the fish stab him in the movie?
WHY did the aliens have such big hips (child-bearing hips)?
WHY did the aliens show up in the first place (what the hell did they want)?
WHY the advertisement for this movie a picture of the woman from the last frame of the film?!?
WHY did they stay in the bomb shelter at all (and why did it look like a submarine)?
WHY did all of the the jugs of water look the same and labeled water with the same handwriting and conviniently placed in certain areas?
WHY did naked hat man get all sentinmental when he saw the alien at first when he had no previous contact with them before?
WHY did he shoot fish?
WHY did the agent need to drive her?
WHY did she did she have to have a grandma?
WHY did the lady cop have asthma?
WHY did a random woman appear in the convinient store?
WHY did he climb?
WHY was this movie to look so awesome on the trailer but it lied to me!?!
WHY was this movie written?
WHY is this movie being released in theaters when there are so many underground zombie movies that are so much cooler!!!!!!! (ex. choking hazard)?
WHY did the aliens use water?... use fire!
WHY if all the animals become zombies too none of them had attacked except for a fish?!?
WHY did the zombie that got chopped in half have the ability to put his upper torso back on?
WHY?
WHY?
WHY?
WHY did I import this dvd and waste two hours of my life?

[SGT. DEATH]

Why dont you watch it again and this time follow the storyline? :drinking:

[Bad Zombie Night]

Many of these questions have been plaguing mankind for the past two years now. :? :loon:

[Bad Zombie Night]

I still remember back when this movie first came out, and I wanted to see it badly because of all the pie-in-sky reviews it was receiving... If you recall, there weren't many Zombie films out at the time (2003)... Resident Evil, and 28 Days Later came out in 2002, but they were faded memories by now, and people were hungry for something new... After finally getting my copy from Ebay, I watched it and said, WTF? It was OK, but not quite the Zombie movie I was expecting... Maybe if I found it on Netflix, and had zero expectations about it, I might have some gentler words for it... So I'll say, yeah it was definitely an overrated Zombie film.

[Dead Remains]

I still remember back when this movie first came out, and I wanted to see it badly because of all the pie-in-sky reviews it was receiving... If you recall, there weren't many Zombie films out at the time (2003)... Resident Evil, and 28 Days Later came out in 2002, but they were faded memories by now, and people were hungry for something new... After finally getting my copy from Ebay, I watched it and said, WTF? It was OK, but not quite the Zombie movie I was expecting... Maybe if I found it on Netflix, and had zero expectations about it, I might have some gentler words for it... So I'll say, yeah it was definitely an overrated Zombie film.

Thank you you understand my pain when I watched it.

[Dead Remains]

Why dont you watch it again and this time follow the storyline? :drinking:

Ummm....what storyline?!? How about you watch it again and you'll discover that the writers are complete morons and had no idea what the plot is. Ok so people are turning into zombies and aliens are abducting them.....kinda might work if the writers weren't on crack but instead they had a beauty queen, fish, and naked hat man. Stop the madness of it all!!!!

[SGT. DEATH]

Ummm....what storyline?!? How about you watch it again and you'll discover that the writers are complete morons and had no idea what the plot is. Ok so people are turning into zombies and aliens are abducting them.....kinda might work if the writers weren't on crack but instead they had a beauty queen, fish, and naked hat man. Stop the madness of it all!!!!
I have watched it several times,I also find the story line easy to under stand and enjoyable.I found the story fitted togather quite well.I also enjoyed this more than DEAD ALIVE from the same country by the man who has directed the lord of the rings trilogy and king kong.

[Bad Zombie Night]

I have watched it several times,I also find the story line easy to under stand and enjoyable.I found the story fitted togather quite well.I also enjoyed this more than DEAD ALIVE from the same country by the man who has directed the lord of the rings trilogy and king kong.

Wait a second SD..... :drool:

Don't let Zen see you typing this propaganda... Peter Jackson is from New Zealand, and The Spierig brothers are from Australia... Other than the two countries being in close proximity to one another, Undead has no parallels to Dead Alive or King Kong, although I'm sure PJ doesn't mind the plugs.

[SGT. DEATH]

Wait a second SD..... :drool:

Don't let Zen see you typing this propaganda... Peter Jackson is from New Zealand, and The Spierig brothers are from Australia... Other than the two countries being in close proximity to one another, Undead has no parallels to Dead Alive or King Kong, although I'm sure PJ doesn't mind the plugs.
Sorry about that ,Im not putting down Dead Alive just stating my prefeerence ( if I spelt that right).I liked undead and the questions asked could be asked about any film.$100,000,000 aussie dolors isnt much to make a film of this quality and the lads done an outstanding job. :clap: :drinking:

[Bad Zombie Night]

That's OK... It was an honest mistake.
I am curious about the sequel though, whenever they get finished making it.

[SGT. DEATH]

I dont think they have even started yet, but I do beleive their making a were wolf film soon. :drinking:

[Bad Zombie Night]

I think they're doing a Vampire film called Daybreakers, unless that has changed.

[HOO-HAA]

I enjoyed 'Undead.' It was bizarre and had its bad points, but generally I really liked it. I thought the leading lady was a FANTASTIC actress... such expression on her face.

I'll look forward to whatever these guys do next..

[Dead and Rotting]

You'll have to forgive me but I don't want to read 4 different pages of thread to see if this has been answered:

Aren't they going to bring it to theaters in US?

http://www.undeadthemovie.com/

Guess I'm a little confused on what’s going on here.

[Bad Zombie Night]

It's already being playing at US theaters... It debuted July 1st at 2 theaters, and this past Friday, it expanded that number to 13 theaters.

As of 7/11/05, the film has raked in $33,027

[Dead and Rotting]

So when it it coming to the North East US?

[Divided Soul]

DR... I feel you pain up here in Boston

[Bad Zombie Night]

So when it it coming to the North East US?
It's already here, playing at 13 theaters across the US... When I did a search, I thought I saw it playing down in NYC, and Philadelphia... I lost the link though, and I'm having some difficulty in relocating it. :x

As of 7/14/05....

Undead has made $41,196

Look out George, you have some competition. :evil:

[Darth Erroneous]

13 theatres! :x Is that it! C'mon, I can get more theatres to play a movie of me tossing a football to myself. :loon:

[corgi37]

Just get the dvd.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Just get the dvd.
It hasn't been released in the states yet.

[Dead Remains]

It hasn't been released in the states yet.
yeah but you can just order an all region dvd of it online and it is exactly the same thing. You can do that will any zombie movies that have been released in the uk before the us. And since the movie is in english there is no problem. I already bought it online and I am quite satisfied with my copy.

[Bad Zombie Night]

yeah but you can just order an all region dvd of it online and it is exactly the same thing.
Oh... I didn't know you could do that.... Thanks. :)

[nigel101]

i seen this, I heard it waas a low budget movie then saw it costed 400,000 (maybe not tht low), the directors are twins. They edited it on Premire pro. I got puzzled when you see the people in the air is it zombie or aliens???? confused.

[The Blind Dead]

It's both.

[Pain]

The ending was the only thing that let the movie down for me. Still thought it was a fine movie with some great laughs and cool zombie action :)

[Zombie Survivor]

Not released yet? It's already released for more than a year in the Netherlands... *looks at growing zombie DVD collection*

[Slumlord]

The only thing I didn't like were the zombies popping up like shooting targets and the corny Harry Potteresque music. Decent flick otherwise.

[Darth Erroneous]

I think I liked it...I'm not sure yet. :)

[chickenchop1]

UNDEAD Quick Review: By a fan of Zombie films.

Story: Original, but at times confusing. The zombies feel tacked on for some reason, compared to the overall story of Aliens.

Characters: Good acting, but the characters themselves aren't very interesting. Oh yeah, nobody can shoot a gun to save their lives. They miss so bad it's painful to watch. Marion is a big hero, with fancy moves, but he can't seem to hit much more than walls with his guns. Not cool.

Direction: The brothers are inspiring to filmmakers, but the camera and editing work need some cleaning up. "What the hell?" came up too many times thanks to the strange camera views and cuts. Example: Marion in the middle of pulling off a cool gun trick, shot interrupted by lady hero looking scared. They don't really pay off the viewer/one shot doesn't lead well enough into the other. A nagging problem throughout UnDEAD.

ZOMBIES/Gore/FX: The zombies look great; Evil Dead-ish. The gore is good, but too brief (Rated R), the FX are good enough for an indie film. The problem? The only time we really see the zombies is during the action scenes, which are confusing, despite their length. Needs more zombie wandering scenes.

Overall: 6/10 stars. It could've been much better if it focused less on the characters blabbing, and more on the zombies causing havoc. Had the characters been more interesting, this would be different. If they re-package this one, they should also go back and re-edit the film too.

Recommended? If you want to see zombies that look like the ones in Evil Dead, check it out. Otherwise, rent only.

[Z Killa]

Haven't seen a thread on here for this yet. I rented UNDEAD the other day and have mixed feelings about it.
Good points are that it is modeately believable (to a point i.e. new folks can't shoot for $hit, but get better, Noone knows the go for headshots and this has to be discovered etc.) The film is set in a new location (Australia) which gives you a point of view from another country in the event of an epidemic, and although the guy has a shelter the fact that they don't have enough food/water is addressed instead of ignoring the entire scenario as in other films. Also, the plot is fairly decent and flows pretty well with believable scenarios.
Bad points are that Marion(?)s shooting is completely hollywood-esque. Two guns blazing away while hanging upsidedown, and guns majically launching up in the air from the waistband(which if I remember right he was wearing overalls, so I still haven't figured this one out) to be grabbed and rapid fired is a bit showy and detracts from the point of the film(great shooting scenes though... zombies buying it everywhere!). I also had a problem with the whole alien thing, but it could be possible.
Comical points include the Zombie fish, which probably wasn't made to be funny but turned out that way, The slimebags legs and spine walking around on it's own, and later when the legs and spine get shot in the crotch!
All in all I think it is a great film to rent, it has it's moments and is good entertainment quality, but don't take too many notes from it!
What do you folks think?

[Helu]

The zombie fish was totally meant to be comical...

I really enjoyed this film. It has a lot I want from my zombie movies. Though the hero guy totally underwhelmed me. Some people were comparing him to Ash form Evil dead, and he wasn't even close.

[HOO-HAA]

Mungo McKay was a poor choice of actor, I thought... But Felicity whats-her-name was fantastic... That girl deserves to go onto great things! :clap:

[corgi37]

Maybe a few of you dont "get it". We Aussies can be a pretty dead-pan bunch. So laid-back, we could seem lazy. Marion was meant to be this silent "hero" type (Marion, as in John Wayne's real name!!) but is actually pretty hopeless. He mumbles so much, even i had trouble understanding him!

The lack of shooting skills would be a dig at the other zombie films where its always 1 shot head-shots. Plus, we dont really have a gun culture here, so the brothers could be taking the piss a bit. I mean, where they are from, is sort of what might be our version of "Redneck" territory, so it might be a bit of a dig at their growing up. Lots of pig/roo shooters up there.

I compare this film very much to something like ROTLD.

Mind you, its nearly 4 years old now. Is it really true that most of you Yanks dont have multi-region players? usually, with a flick of the remote, most dvd players can become multi-zone. Then, you could order it from an Aussie site. With the dollar rate conversion, it shouldnt cost you much at all.

There is a new horror/slasher film coming out from my country too. It's called "Wolf Creek". It aint about Lycanthropes, but about a serial killer. It's based on a true story too.

[HOO-HAA]

Is it really true that most of you Yanks dont have multi-region players? usually, with a flick of the remote, most dvd players can become multi-zone..

Does anyone know how this works?

I've a REgion 2 which I wouldn't mind 'upgrading' .. IT's a Sony player. Any ideas?

Back to topic, I see what you mean, Corgi... Maybe Mungo deliberatly over-acted the character to get that bemused-unlikely hero thing across...

[chickenchop1]

The zombie fish was totally meant to be comical...

I really enjoyed this film. It has a lot I want from my zombie movies. Though the hero guy totally underwhelmed me. Some people were comparing him to Ash form Evil dead, and he wasn't even close.

It seems Undead was inspired by Evil Dead; How about the survivors upstairs, and we hear, "Join Us...", Zombies looked Evil Dead-like with the blank eyes and dark undereyes, one hero to kick zombie/demon ass, but like you say, Marion has a ton of tricks up his sleeve, now only if he could hit his target for a change, "underwhelming"... I don't think he had half the charisma of Ash from Evil Dead, but Undead is its own movie.

There's nothing wrong with being inspired by great horror films, but at least have some like-able characters that are somewhat competent, can hit their target, and don't scream and yell like morons every other line like in Undead. It just makes rooting for them much more difficult, but maybe that's what they were going for. Disposable 'heroes'.

[Ark]

Just found this one on video and all I can say is.......wierd. It's all about aliens and acid rain and shit on top of the zombies. Great humor though.

[Zombie Survivor]

Yeah, it's a great movie with great fx...

[B00Ne]

The first 45 minutes or so of Undead is ranked at the top of my zombie movie list. The rest of the movie was so-so for me.

[Ark]

Favorate line:

"Mate, where you been hiding those?"

Favorate character: The over-swearing cop

The first parts were great. The gore was so over the top it was funny.

[Propaganda13]

I always says this film has a more 50's Sci-fi feel to it. (Background music, etc.) than a horror movie. When I've describe it that way a lot more people have liked when they watched it than describing it as a horror or zombie movie.

[corgi37]

Its a hoot, no doubt about it.

[Bash_them_in_the_head]

Its pretty crazy but the best bit has to be the three in one shotgun thingy. I wasn't too sure about the Aliens, I preffered the zombies. But the bit in the plane was pretty funky.

[Ravenheart]

I thought it was okay but very over-rated.

[skelington]

I thought it was great! It feels like an old comic book from when I was a kid.
##(spoilers)##

A rock from space fall onto earth infecting the people near the site with a bad case of zombies. I think I might need to stress this They are all infected and once they die they will turn it just takes time. The alien who have been following the rock through space know whats going on and try to clean the mess up. Thats where the rain comes in it's the cure. When the people are cured they are sucked up into the air away from the other infected people. Now if that one guy hadn't gotten out of the city everything would have been fine but he got out. Once the aliens leave he begins infecting people all over again. I can't remember her name but she figures out whats going on and saves the kid and herself. Then rounds up the new dead to contain the infection and wait for the aliens to return and bring the rain.

[Bad Zombie Night]

There's no reason to start a new thread on this topic, since there is already an active, long standing thread in this forum.

Here's a review by Dead Kev on our main page: Undead (2003) (http://www.allthingszombie.com/movies/undead.php) http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif

[Ark]

Oh, my bad.

[Slumlord]

Well, skelingtons post cleared up everything. I didn't understand the whole part about putting people in the sky.

[Ark]

Yeah, that was kind of strange. But I couldn't help laughing when the dude in the plane started running over them.

[Dearth]

I'll add my two cents...

A WEIRD movie... with some great 'Ashlike' action scenes - the guy needs to say "Groovy" and "Come Get Some" to be totally Ash though - the scenes with him hanging upside down and the gunplay - very Evil Dead Series.

Some great lines in there too!

As for plot... it needs one! ;D

But the special effects are great and some excellent zombie action.

3 out of 5 I say... not the best, but certainly not the worst, I'll be watching it again!

:)

N.

[corgi37]

Some good reviews there.

[!Vision!]

Are there any plans for a sequel to this movie? I think the ending really left the door open for one. Undead was a really fun and original film. I like movies where you're not exactly sure what's going on until it's all over.

[corgi37]

Undead was on Aussie cable on Saturday night. Just missed the start. Couldnt help but watch it again. 2 years after seeing it, i was still impressed with what was achieved. I enjoyed it again very much. The cop was hysterical.

[Dearth]

I enjoyed it again very much. The cop was hysterical.

:lol:

Yep - certainly rivals 'Goodfellas' for it's multiple usage of the 'eff word'!

:lol:

N.

[corgi37]

You got the right, lol. Plus the way he delivered his lines in that hysterical voice, was, well, hysterical! Also, though the acting was pretty crappy, the lead chick actually was pretty good.

"SPOILER"






I also loved her fetish get up at the end, and how she had a 5 barrel gun, not a 3 barrel gun.

[Dearth]

I also loved her fetish get up at the end, and how she had a 5 barrel gun, not a 3 barrel gun.

I didn't notice that...

I'll have to give it another look now just to check out how cool that looks!

:)

N.

[B00Ne]

I also loved her fetish get up at the end, and how she had a 5 barrel gun, not a 3 barrel gun.

Honestly if they made a sequel based on her and a few survivors trying to contain the "problem", I would watch it in a heartbeat.

[corgi37]

Yeah, me too, for sure. I think it would be more along the lines of what we all like. As in, more zombie, less alien. Aint gonna happen, but we can dream.

[Born to Kill]

It was just too silly of a movie.

A certain amount of terror...at least some terror...

Is required for a good zombie movie.

If the viewer isn't scared...even a little...

Then the movie sucks.

Like this one did.

And...I hate to burst your bubble...

Braindead.

I honestly don't come close to understanding why SO MANY sites and critics think Peter Jackson's piece of shit zombie movie is one of the best ever.

The effects sucked...that rat monkey looks like Kermit the Frog on acid...

The acting sucked.

And it wasn't scary.

Blah to both those movies.

[UNDEAD FRED]

It was allright, I think the ending was terrible, a big wall? It started out good, but the alien stuff ruined it for me. I still want to know where he got the pistols, when he was buck-ass naked?

[The Blind Dead]

You'll NEVER believe this...LOOK!

http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63&highlight=Undead

Search function to the rescue!

[Born to Kill]

The hell with the search function...that thread was made in '04...and hasn't had a hit since late '05.

Blah to old threads!

And yes...the big wall sucked nads.

The whole movie did.

[Zombie Survivor]

I'll probably regret it by saying this, but I need to get it out of my system... I respect everyone's opinion and I'm not forcing mine to anyone... I respect everyone's view on horror / zombie movies... allright... here goes nothing...

Undead
I think this was an orginal take on zombie movies. It had aliens, zombies, zombified animals (I love everything undead), humor and a confusing plot. The last two (or three) are the main why some people didn't like it.

Dead-Alive (a.k.a BrainDead)
This is a B-movie. This is a B-movie. This is a B-movie. Therefore the effects are less that the big budget CGI movies from Hollywood (no pun intented). But it has very nice zombies and lots of gore. Especially the gore is nice. Okay, it different. So what? It even has a cute baby (right BZN?), how can you resist that?

Sorry to burst the bubble, but I don't think zombies are that scary. Maybe if the atmosphere is right, or in real life but that's something different. Yet, I love them very much (no necrophilia). I don't need to be scared to be entertained. Shaun of the Dead for example was a perfect zombie film with a lot of humor and yet captured the mood. Humorous zombie movies are nice to watch if you're down or want to watch something less serious. Confusing plot twists can change someone's opinion about a movie. If it goes above their league, the complaining begins. I say, watch it again, read something about it on the forums, watch again and then draw your conclusions. Please give it a go.

You may disagree, you may call names and try to blow up everything around here, I think those two zombie movies are great. Yes, great. I love every movie if there are zombies in them. That's why I'm a zomboholic

So if you hate humor in your horror movies, don't watch these: Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness, Return of the Living Dead 1 and 2. Although they are considered cult classics (like Dead-Alive).

[Pain]

The hell with the search function...that thread was made in '04...and hasn't had a hit since late '05.

Blah to old threads!



Thanks for wasting my time though. No, really, I appreciate it:x

[UNDEAD FRED]

Zombie survivor glad to hear your opion. :greet: :? :mrgreen: :think:

[Zombie Survivor]

Zombie survivor glad to hear your opion.

You're welcome! :)

[Born to Kill]

Thanks for wasting my time though. No, really, I appreciate it:x
Whatever, kiddo...

Anyway...in answer to this...

I'll probably regret it by saying this, but I need to get it out of my system... I respect everyone's opinion and I'm not forcing mine to anyone... I respect everyone's view on horror / zombie movies... allright... here goes nothing...

Undead
I think this was an orginal take on zombie movies. It had aliens, zombies, zombified animals (I love everything undead), humor and a confusing plot. The last two (or three) are the main why some people didn't like it.

Dead-Alive (a.k.a BrainDead)
This is a B-movie. This is a B-movie. This is a B-movie. Therefore the effects are less that the big budget CGI movies from Hollywood (no pun intented). But it has very nice zombies and lots of gore. Especially the gore is nice. Okay, it different. So what? It even has a cute baby (right BZN?), how can you resist that?

Sorry to burst the bubble, but I don't think zombies are that scary. Maybe if the atmosphere is right, or in real life but that's something different. Yet, I love them very much (no necrophilia). I don't need to be scared to be entertained. Shaun of the Dead for example was a perfect zombie film with a lot of humor and yet captured the mood. Humorous zombie movies are nice to watch if you're down or want to watch something less serious. Confusing plot twists can change someone's opinion about a movie. If it goes above their league, the complaining begins. I say, watch it again, read something about it on the forums, watch again and then draw your conclusions. Please give it a go.

You may disagree, you may call names and try to blow up everything around here, I think those two zombie movies are great. Yes, great. I love every movie if there are zombies in them. That's why I'm a zomboholic

So if you hate humor in your horror movies, don't watch these: Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness, Return of the Living Dead 1 and 2. Although they are considered cult classics (like Dead-Alive).

You kinda made my point in your first few lines...

I don't think zombies are that scary. Maybe if the atmosphere is right, or in real life but that's something different.

The "in real life" part...well, DUH! The whole point of a zombie flick...to me...is to make me dread the shit happening for real...
If the possibility of being eaten alive by scores of rotting mother****ers doesn't give you the creeps...well...then you're one of the dead dudes already.

I've been genuinely wigged out by zombie movies...my whole life...I love them, but what I love THE VERY MOST about them is how they make me feel when the shit is closing in...when the character has no more places to go, no more room to run...my heart starts racing...I shake...I GET SCARED!

And that's the point.

I, however, CANNOT be scared by some goon in bad make up, acting badly, with WAY TOO MUCH GORE spilling out of him...
Brain Dead had ****ers bleeding GALLONS!!!

Go watch a real beheading on Ogrish.com...
There's alot of blood...yes...but it's within reason...cuz the human body only has 6 pints in them...

WTF is with Peter Jackson SOAKING everything in sight with the shit?

That's not scary and that's not good...at all.

Why? Because it's just not, that's why.

And your mention of these...Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness, Return of the Living Dead 1 and 2.

Well...I loved Evil Dead 1 & 2...cuz, THEY STAYED SCARY! That was freaky, creepy shit Raimi had going on in those woods...funny, yes...but also scary!

See, scary is the key word...after all, it's horror, you ninny.

Army of Darkness? Honestly...I'm not a big fan of this one...
Too much comedy. You can't even really rate this as horror.

And Return...that was scary as ****...those zombies ran!
Return 2...honestly...this one kinda lost me too.
It was too hokey...the comedy was too pushed.
Borderline decent.

See what I mean? Horror = scary

Anything else...isn't a ****in horror movie.

[Pain]

Horror not only encompasses fear, but anything objectional.

Anyway, I thought Undead was quite good, there was room for improvement but it was still a good laugh

[Born to Kill]

Horror does not encompass anything objectional...

If it did...

Then "Jackass, the Movie" would be a horror classic.

???

[Pain]

My apologies, maybe i shouldn't have used the word "anything". I was just saying that something doesn't have to be scary or invoke fear to be horrifying.

[chickenchop1]

...I don't think zombies are that scary.

Yeah, unless it jumps out when not expected or something :scare: , but they're slow most of the time, and pretty easy to outsmart. I look forward to the moment they surround a human, close in and feast. :)

EDIT: Do zombie movies have to be scary to be good? Dawn of the Dead 78...

[Born to Kill]

Yes, chicken chop...

They have to be at least a little bit scary...

If they're not...then to me, they're pretty much crap.

[Seidita]

Like the main Character is looking out the window and sees all the zombies coming,and then gets grabbed and is using all their strength to keep it from biting Him/her.

That is me trying to be scary.

[Born to Kill]

I have this unreasonable fear of being trapped in an office file room with only one door...

Thus, that door is blocked by all the zombies pouring in.

And I'm on top of this 6 foot, double wide file cabinet...
And it's full...so it's several hundred pounds...maybe a thousand...
So they can't really tip me over...

But at only 6 feet high...and with only my heavy duty Swingline stapler to bash heads...

It won't be long before they drag me off the file cabinet and eat my ass alive.

For some reason...with the bright ass office fluorescent lighting...

Seems worse than getting munched on a back alley or in some house with no power.

I don't know if I wanna see such a gruesome death (of mine) in that good of lighting.

[eardrumbuz]

i love when someone barges into a party and tells the homeowner and all his guests that they shouldn't be enjoying the party because there's no dj. because, a party isn't a party unless there's a dj. and then i love it more when that person goes into the pantry and opens a new bag of pretzels because the open bag of pretzels on the living room table hasn't been touched for an hour and a half. screw looking for pretzels on the table! i know i can find pretzels in the pantry, and besides, nobody has eaten the pretzels on the table since 9 o'clock!

and as for horror movies needing to be scary in order to qualify as horror, i disagree. Pain said it before, and i think the gist of it is that all horror movies are scary and/or disturbing and/or objectionable in some way, but not all movies which are any of those 3 things need be considered horror. hence, Jackass, though horrifying to some, need not be considered a horror movie.

definition of HORROR - an intense feeling of fear, shock, or disgust

who would argue that Undead, and to a greater degree Braindead/Dead Alive aren't shocking or disgusting?

IMO, they're both great horror movies. two of my faves. i like seeing original movies, which Undead most definitely is! i loved the alien storyline. i don't think the plot was so confusing or difficult to follow. i would've welcomed a little more gory zombie action, but other than that...great movie!

[chickenchop1]

definition of HORROR - an intense feeling of fear, shock, or disgust

who would argue that Undead, and to a greater degree Braindead/Dead Alive aren't shocking or disgusting?

i would've welcomed a little more gory zombie action, but other than that...great movie!

I agree, shocking and disgusting qualify as horror traits, not just fear, since everybody has a different level of fear (easily scared, alert, unfazed).

Yeah, Undead could use more zombie gore scenes.

[Born to Kill]

i love when someone barges into a party and tells the homeowner and all his guests that they shouldn't be enjoying the party because there's no dj. because, a party isn't a party unless there's a dj. and then i love it more when that person goes into the pantry and opens a new bag of pretzels because the open bag of pretzels on the living room table hasn't been touched for an hour and a half. screw looking for pretzels on the table! i know i can find pretzels in the pantry, and besides, nobody has eaten the pretzels on the table since 9 o'clock!

And I find it hilarious when someone acts like the house belongs strictly to them...

You know...the party flyers have been up forever...the shit says bring your friends and have a good time...signs everywhere state, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC...

But there's those certain people...who have nothing better to do than run around emptying ashtrays every 5 minutes, putting coasters under everyone's drinks, spot cleaning the carpet with a washrag...

And generally being a great big downer to everyone who just wants to have a good time.

I find it so funny cuz for all their rambling and whining...

They accomplish nothing but looking ridiculous themselves.

Ironic, huh?

[Zombie Survivor]

I, however, CANNOT be scared by some goon in bad make up, acting badly, with WAY TOO MUCH GORE spilling out of him...
Brain Dead had ****ers bleeding GALLONS!!!

Really? I thought that the gore in Evil Dead 2 was also in the gallons... basement anyone?


See, scary is the key word...after all, it's horror, you ninny.

Calling names... that's also what they do in horror movies, but it's not civilized when you have a conversation with someone. For the record, I'm not scared easily.


See what I mean? Horror = scary.

I agree, but we are a little desensitized, so it's harder to scare the audience.

[eardrumbuz]

You know...the party flyers have been up forever...the shit says bring your friends and have a good time...signs everywhere state, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC...

But there's those certain people...who have nothing better to do than run around emptying ashtrays every 5 minutes, putting coasters under everyone's drinks, spot cleaning the carpet with a washrag...

that's pretty good.

but we are the guests, and Pain (who you showed absolutely no respect for) is the moderator in here. the flyer for the party may say OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, but i don't see where it says PLEASE VOMIT ON THE COFFEE TABLE.

nothing wrong with having some manners.

[Born to Kill]

I'm straight with Pain...we PM'd...

So why the need to take up for him?
Are you his "net-big brother" or something?

And as far as "ninny"...that's pretty mild an insult, don't you think?
I mean...really...does it even qualify as one?

Lastly...in reference to your "vomiting on the table"...

I seriously doubt that making an extra "Undead" thread equals puke.
But whatever...if you do...then fine...

But remember...

It's a party...and the site invited everyone...so expect it.
And get over it.

Jeez, you guys are womanly up in here.

[Pain]

Undead anyone?

[Born to Kill]

I feel a bit undead today, Pain.

But anyway...back to the topic...

Did you notice...and I'm wondering how...

That blue jogging suit dude...the one the semi-hot chick was originally with...

How'd he put his body back on his legs?

Cuz didn't he get blown in half on the small road...at the beginning...

And then didn't he reappear at the farmhouse and get blown in half AGAIN?

Also...

The place was called World of Weapons...

But, only the overalls dude had guns. The cops were using their own.
I think the movie needed a scene where they raid a bunch of guns.
Those are always cool scenes in zombie flicks.

[The Blind Dead]

I enjoyed the film. It certainly wasn't a blockbuster but it also avoided the whole Romero rip-off syndrome than so many other low budget filmmakers seem to be afflicted with.

[MrShape666]

I found the film entertaining enough to pick up on DVD. I wouldn't rate it with Shaun Of The Dead or Braindead, but it was a whole lotta fun.

My favorite line, "Yeah we've got a car. Grandma has the keys but she hasn't got a brain."

[eardrumbuz]

Lastly...in reference to your "vomiting on the table"...

I seriously doubt that making an extra "Undead" thread equals puke.
But whatever...if you do...then fine...

when i said that i was referring to you saying it wasn't horror if it wasn't scary, as if only your opinion mattered. but as long as you brought up the "new thread" thing...what i took exception to there was not the fact that you made a new thread (everyone does that sometime), it was your "the search feature" response to being told about it. but, like you said, whatever. and you're right, Pain is perfectly capable of handling obnoxious newbies all by himself.

as for the movie, i love it. my only real complaint, aside from what could've been added, is that after all he'd been through Marion went down way to easily.

[The Blind Dead]

Wow, and some of you crybabies out there whine about my abrasive forum manners! What a Johnson. What're ya gonna do though, right? I don't envy BZN and Pain.

Ya know, I never thought to ask but does anybody have the Region 1 release for this? How are the extras? I own the Region 4 release.

[Pain]

Sorry, Region 2 Dutch copy here:lol:

[UNDEAD FRED]

What does all this region stuff mean, different contry codes on dvd players?

[Pain]

That's right. Here's a list for you


1 United States of America, Canada
2 Europe, including France, Greece, Turkey, Egypt, Arabia, Japan and South Africa
3 Korea, Thailand, Vietnam, Borneo and Indonesia
4 Australia and New Zealand, Mexico, the Caribbean, and South America
5 India, Africa, Russia and former USSR countries
6 Peoples Republic of China
7 Unused
8 Airlines/Cruise Ships
9 Expansion (often used as region free)

[Robo Tube Gunslinger]

I got mine at a Blockbuster, which is weird since me and BB don't get along so well. The disc was in VERY goodm condition, no scratches.

Movie: 9/10

Dvd: 8/10

[eardrumbuz]

Ya know, I never thought to ask but does anybody have the Region 1 release for this? How are the extras? I own the Region 4 release.

i have the region 1 dvd, which has lots of extras, some i haven't gotten to yet:

crew and cast commentaries
making of featurette
zombies internet featurette
midnight madness - toronto film festival screening (this and the supernova footage include audience Q&A too)
camera and make-up tests
homemade dolly construction video (just what it sounds like. pretty cool. shows a crane as well)
animatic to film comparison (just what it sounds like. done picture in picture)
deleted and extended scenes
supernova convention footage (see above)
artwork and design sketches
trailers (3 of em)

it's also widescreen with 5.1 and 2.0 dolby digital audio

so if you're missing most of that stuff, it could be worth snagging a copy.

[The Blind Dead]

Yeah sounds quite good. I don't think I've ever checked my Aussie copy.

[Zombie Survivor]

Sorry, Region 2 Dutch copy here:lol:

What a coincedence! Me too! ... Wait... I'm Dutch, so it's logical isn't it? :lol:

[MrShape666]

I've got a super DVD player that does all regions plus PAL or NTSC so I can pretty much watch anything, which doen't really matter here because Undead has a Region 1 US release.

[SGT. DEATH]

I've got a super DVD player that does all regions plus PAL or NTSC so I can pretty much watch anything, which doen't really matter here because Undead has a Region 1 US release.
Undead is a great film,one of the best and with all the aliens and weirdness I cant fault this film.

[corgi37]

And the brothers havent done anything since. I thought they were doing a vampire film but havent heard boo down here.

I'm glad alot of people dug Undead. I thought the Aussie humour and accents would have put alot of people off.

Its no means a great film, but its good fun. And i think extremely well done for the tiny budget and as a debut major film. I agree that it was refreshing that it wasnt simply a Romero rip-off, which sad to say, nearly every new indie film that is discussed on the "upcoming boards" seems to be.

[SGT. DEATH]

And the brothers havent done anything since. I thought they were doing a vampire film but havent heard boo down here.

I'm glad alot of people dug Undead. I thought the Aussie humour and accents would have put alot of people off.

Its no means a great film, but its good fun. And i think extremely well done for the tiny budget and as a debut major film. I agree that it was refreshing that it wasnt simply a Romero rip-off, which sad to say, nearly every new indie film that is discussed on the "upcoming boards" seems to be.
True but compared to a lot of Zombie flicks in my personal view this is a great flick and I loved.Im hoping for a sequal and I thought the next film these guys where to make was a wherewolf flick although I could be wrong and more than likely am.Fantastic flick,best since Dawn 04 and I hope to see more like it.:drinking:

[Pain]

And the brothers havent done anything since. I thought they were doing a vampire film but havent heard boo down here.



There some info on the Spierigs new movie here

http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9143