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MaxKemosabe
09-05-2004, 02:13 PM
Seriously, I think it rivals the original for best zombie flick

first look at the score
Original did have an awesome musical score, which played into the social commentary of the film

'04 did not do that, but did utilize "When the man comes around, J. Cash" as a great intro song, perfect for the contagium running rampid over the world. Also let us not forget Richard Cheese and The Lounge against machine cover of down with the sickness, say thankyee!

I was worried they weren't going to touch base on the great social commentary that makes zombie films the greatest of horror genres, but it still rang true in the mall and the power relationships between the survivors.

As it is true in nature it is also true that evolution must take place.
'04 realized this and helped evolve the concept of the fast zombie as seen in 28 days later

Graphics and gore were choice

the begining of the film? Cn anyone name a better initial infection sequence. I was blown away.

Remember all the homages to all the other zombie flicks?
(Orignal Dawn of the Dead inherint)
zombies as they flood the mall stall on the steps a definate honoring of the great Romero
28 days later cinematic shots as the zombies running in sewer system
in credits, zombie head in cooler: Re-animator
in credits, zombie island: Zombi
Zombie birth: Dead-Alive
the list continues

IN my opinion, DotD'04 could replace the original as greatest zombie flick in existence

Pain
09-05-2004, 02:17 PM
I agree it's a damn good movie but i still prefer the original.
There is another thread for the '04 version though.

MaxKemosabe
09-05-2004, 02:20 PM
Acknowledged. Intent to compare and contrast the two.

Pain
09-05-2004, 02:28 PM
It's all good :lol:

Was just letting you know in case you hadn't found it :-P

i-eat-ears
09-05-2004, 03:22 PM
I want to see it!!! Is it released in the UK by now then? I kept looking for it on DVD and then gave up :dunce:

Pain
09-05-2004, 03:38 PM
It was supposed to be released on dvd tomorrow (6th sept) but i hear that's it's been put back till October :x

StompinCharlie
09-05-2004, 04:52 PM
So what you're saying is that Dawn 04 is good because it took what was good from other zombie movies and threw it in? That's crazy.

It's a good movie, but comes nowhere close to rivaling the original. The original was definitaly more of a shocker (with all the hidden messages about society and the way humans cope with one another under intense situations).

The 04 version just had too much violence which was thrown in there to entertain the young, blood hungry youth, and not enough story, and after a while, you begin to not care about the characters anymore.

From the second we got to know Roger, Peter Fran and Flyboy, we cared about them, all the way up until the end. Plus, they interacted better, and more realistically with eachother where Dawn 04 was just a bunch of one liners, and cheezy personalities.

Both are good movies, but like I said, 04 is but a footnote in the orginial Dawn of the dead's glourious history.

Zombie Minotaur
09-05-2004, 05:40 PM
I don't think the 2004 remake is anywhere close to being as good as the original.

Sure the Johnny Cash song was good, but the rest were lacking. I really disliked the stupid Hard Rock music during the ending credits. I should have expected someone to go and ruin it with the "Get Down with the Sickness" song. :x

The movie didn't give a damn about the social commentary. Plain and simple. It was all run, scream, kill, scream some more.

The crazy trucks were a bad idea. I love the movie Road Warrior, but to think that they could go and build one of those is laughable. I was having flashbacks to Army of Darkness with Ash pulling out his Chemestry book and having a death mobile the next day. To think that anybody would try such a stunt is insane.

I couldn't identify with the characters as much as with the original.

There weren't any Savini-style gore at all.

Then the sex scene just bothered me...Why did they put it in? Does it really need to pander that much? :doh:

Basically, Dawn of the Dead 2004 was a less intelligent interpritation of a classic film and will be recognized for that. The remake was okay... but not a classic.

Cybopath
09-05-2004, 06:06 PM
No. It hasn't replaced Dawn 78 as the best zombie film. Their's still a few good films between Dawn 04 and the top.

Dawn 04 was a crowd pleasing Action/Horror movie. I like it don't get me wrong but I doubt any DIE HARD ZOMBIE fan would accept a remake with go faster stripes on as the best zombie film.

Also the UK DvD release will be in October close to the date RotLD2 is released. October 20th I think.

Cybopath
09-05-2004, 06:11 PM
The crazy trucks were a bad idea. I love the movie Road Warrior, but to think that they could go and build one of those is laughable. I was having flashbacks to Army of Darkness with Ash pulling out his Chemestry book and having a death mobile the next day. To think that anybody would try such a stunt is insane.

Lol when that part started it reminded me of the A Team.

"I love it when a plan comes together"

Monkey Mech X
09-05-2004, 10:35 PM
A few hundred good movies in between this movie and the original.

corgi37
09-05-2004, 11:00 PM
The world is big enough for both movies. The original is just better in so many ways. But, i wont hear a bad word about Dawn 04. I thought it was great. A little too "rushed", but i enjoyed it.

I had no hassles with running zombies at all. I thought it added to the horror. But, my main gripe is that none of the zombies had any character. Obviously, a lot of effort went into FX, but hardly any individual zombies got screen time. There was no nurse, cardigan, hare krishna or fat-ass zombies to identify. That to me is the main gripe. Because they ran, and because the zombie confrontation scenes were edited and shot ala "Saving PRivate Ryan" style, it took away the "intimacy" of saying "Hey, there's a cop-zombie! "Oi! There's a student zombie".

And, i really think they should have shown LOUIS or VIVIAN in a later scene. Either at the mall, or on a news cast.

But, Dawn 78 is the master of them all. If anything, this movie compliments it. It makes you want to see it again, and appreciate the love and care GAR put into his film.

I would also like to say that i think Snyder did a bang-up job on his 1st film. Some quite confident directing.

gettowitch
09-07-2004, 04:02 PM
I think I'm going to rent this from Netflix first. I just had to cut my budget in half as it is and now I can only buy one DVD every other month....blech!

Sadogoat
09-07-2004, 05:05 PM
I didn't mind Dawn Of The Dead 2004 - it was an entertaining popcorn flick in it's own right (and I'm looking forward to the extended version), but there's no way that it comes anywhere close to Romero's 1978 original. I still don't like the fast zombies either, but that's my personal taste.

Zombie Minotaur
09-07-2004, 08:31 PM
I think I've become more sympathetic towards the remake after reading this article.

http://www.juicycerebellum.com/200410.htm

I guess I criticized it so hard because I love the original so much. I shall be harsh no more, this was one damn fine zombie movie. Right now, it has to be one of my top five (at least seven) favorite zombie movies. I completely forgot the cool Foree cameo, the fat lady zombie (damn scary make-up), the Jay Leno zombie, the "oh crude!" beginning, and the satisfying ending credits in which everyone dies.

The Dawn of the Dead remake should be a classic in it's own right. I can't wait to buy this sucker.

MaxKemosabe
09-07-2004, 08:58 PM
The Dawn of the Dead remake should be a classic in it's own right. I can't wait to buy this sucker.

Thanks

You're all right. I got a little excited. I would admit that is not as great as original.

It is, however, the best out of the last few years. I felt like I was watching a collage of most of the greats with some new fx, music, and action.


[Spoiler, Please do not read if you have not seen the movie and wish to see it]












Okay, give me this, when they crossed the street to save the girl that chased her dog they ran into some zombie chaos, right? Well remember when the main white guy, sorry I forgot the name, is getting chased by one zombie in particular, and he pulls one of my all time fav zombie action moves. He utilizes a car door slam into zombie's face, shoots the zombie in the foot (useless but it was mecha-sweet), and dives into the car.

nirvroxx
09-07-2004, 10:20 PM
Okay, give me this, when they crossed the street to save the girl that chased her dog they ran into some zombie chaos, right? Well remember when the main white guy, sorry I forgot the name, is getting chased by one zombie in particular, and he pulls one of my all time fav zombie action moves. He utilizes a car door slam into zombie's face, shoots the zombie in the foot (useless but it was mecha-sweet), and dives into the car.
ya that was pretty saweet...i saw it your way though max...dawn '04 was a great zombie flick, not enough to topple the original but great none-the-less

MaxKemosabe
09-07-2004, 11:45 PM
Pretty much on par with the mexican ganster with sombero in the original that decided to check his blood presure at a very unusual time. Health comes at a high price.

Monkey Mech X
09-08-2004, 09:10 AM
I still don't see this being the great zombie movie everyone raves on and on about. It was sub-par trash with underdeveloped characters that just sat around waiting to be eaten.

The stolen "stuck in a mall" idea that this movie used was a good story around 30 years ago, but now it's just stale. Everyone's imagined what it would be like to be in a mall, and this movie failed to capture that magic. At least they could of done it properly with interesting events, instead of showing us the collages of sex and vagrancy to fill-in for the lack of a plot.

There wasn't enough zombie action any ways, other than just crowds of one mundane looking zombie after the next. There were no memorable zombies that did anything worth remembering! Seriously! We had so many in every other Dead movie, with Dr. Tongue, Bub, the Helicopter Zombie, and so on. In the new Dawn, all we see are crowds of indiscriminate and boring people moaning with blood on their face. The zombies are characters too, at least they're supposed to if you want this to be a Dead movie.

As for thrills, the filmed lacked severly. The birthing scene was particularly pathetic in its attempt to just scare the audience with sick gore, trying to touch a deep primal fear all humans have of parasites. Want to know the last movie that tried that(and yes, it's been done)? Zombi 3.

Good going, guys, you copied Zombi 3. I'm very proud of you.

If they really wanted to impress me, they should of just shown the girl and the cop busting heads and getting out of town, and that would of been a better movie on its own. (Notice how the intro scenes were the best?)

With something like that, then it could at least resemble the "Dead" titles in some way, using the classic Romero "white girl and black guy" character archtypes. At least we wouldn't be subjected to forumlaic character after character just until we get a stupid one that can screw everything up for the rest of the crowd.

This movie was terrible on it's own. It wasn't a popcorn movie, it was a false heir to the title of Dead and doesn't deserve what praise it's got. If anything, they should of just released this as a book so we could of gotten into the character's heads and actually had some brain matter to chew on. Not just run and gun explosion cheese.

hatefuldisplay
09-08-2004, 09:38 AM
As for thrills, the filmed lacked severly. The birthing scene was particularly pathetic in its attempt to just scare the audience with sick gore, trying to touch a deep primal fear all humans have of parasites. Want to know the last movie that tried that(and yes, it's been done)? Zombi 3.

Good going, guys, you copied Zombi 3. I'm very proud of you.I suppose we should be thankful that the woman in Dawn 04 gave birth to a zombie child as opposed to the adult-sized zombie hand and arm in Zombie 3. None the less, I would have been very happy had the zombie baby scene been on the deleted scenes portion of the DVD instead of the theatrical cut. Perhaps only the zombie film fans were left groaning by this scene and others found it acceptable.

For those who might want to compare the baby with Dead Alive should consider the latter is as much a comedy as it is a zombie film.

Monkey Mech X
09-08-2004, 09:43 AM
I wouldn't compare it to Dead Alive. That is indeed, a comedy, not meant to be scary.

Although it grossed me out more than Dawn '04!

MaxKemosabe
09-09-2004, 09:31 PM
Dude, don't tell me you can't think of tons worse than it....its at least in top 10%

corgi37
09-09-2004, 09:57 PM
I can understand people bagging Dawn 04 for having the title, and maybe being a "remake", and for the running zombies, but you cant seriously bag it for not being a good zombie-action movie. I wouldnt call it a horror (then again, i wouldnt call Dawn 78 a horror either).

I think the unrated version is going to really improve the movie for me. I have always said i felt the movie was a bit "rushed", and though an exta 10 minutes doesnt seem much, from what i have seen, those 10 minutes look very good.

But, i still have a sneaking suspicion that in 12 months or so, or when a sequal comes out, there will be a UE edition or something.

Monkey Mech X
06-19-2005, 08:49 PM
*Unrated version* Just as bad.

SICBELLY
06-20-2005, 01:02 AM
For what it's worth, I really enjoyed Dawn '04. Of course that enjoyment was based on different criteria than the enjoyment I got from Dawn '78. The whole "don't go outside or you will die" aspect of the newer one was what did it for me.

Some_Day...
06-20-2005, 08:25 AM
I would def say that Dawn '04 is a great film...but not the best zombie film ever...that's Day of the Dead.

Cyber Bishop
06-20-2005, 10:00 AM
I loved DOTD 04' but it will never replace the original.

Zombie Survivor
06-20-2005, 10:18 AM
It was because of Dawn '04 that I started a new hobby, ZOMBIES!!!! :zom1: :drinking: :zom1:

Zombie Mark
06-20-2005, 12:42 PM
I think the unrated version is going to really improve the movie for me. I have always said i felt the movie was a bit "rushed", and though an exta 10 minutes doesnt seem much, from what i have seen, those 10 minutes look very good.
The unrated version is the only one to get, for at least 3 reasons: 1) Ken Foree's "no more room in hell" speech is longer and creepier; 2) Shows how they were able to leave the gunshop and develops other story points more completely; and 3) Has a little more gore. Didn't buy the other version and have no plans to.

Re the bashing of this film again - to each his own. DOTD '78 is my all time favorite movie of any genre, and I still really liked DAWN '04. Its not a remake per se, and may be just a hollow immitation, but I enjoyed it immensely!

jackskellington
06-20-2005, 01:12 PM
The stolen "stuck in a mall" idea that this movie used was a good story around 30 years ago, but now it's just stale. Everyone's imagined what it would be like to be in a mall, and this movie failed to capture that magic. At least they could of done it properly with interesting events, instead of showing us the collages of sex and vagrancy to fill-in for the lack of a plot.

This movie was terrible on it's own. It wasn't a popcorn movie, it was a false heir to the title of Dead and doesn't deserve what praise it's got. If anything, they should of just released this as a book so we could of gotten into the character's heads and actually had some brain matter to chew on. Not just run and gun explosion cheese.

I've never imagined what it would be like to be in a mall, but if I did then I don't think there would be any "magic" to it. As for the sex and vagrancy, wasn't that pretty much what was going on in the original along with alot of looting? If you wanna "get into character's heads" then maybe you should only see Robert Redford films. Alot of people like the "run and gun explosion cheese" and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Don't get me wrong, I still do prefer the original, but the remake served it's purpose while helping pave the way for Land.

Cyber Bishop
06-20-2005, 03:07 PM
Not just run and gun explosion cheese.

Isn't that what these movies are about? If i want to get into characters heads I will read Hamlet or MacBeth.

I go to see a zombie movie I want fun, explosions, splatter, car chases, hiding in malls or stores, etc..

Slumlord
06-20-2005, 10:34 PM
Isn't that what these movies are about? If i want to get into characters heads I will read Hamlet or MacBeth.

I go to see a zombie movie I want fun, explosions, splatter, car chases, hiding in malls or stores, etc..

I agree. When they were all sitting around talking like "What was your worst job?" and then the one guy "I was best at being a dad..." I was thinking "What's this crap? Okay, zombie break-in now... where's the biker gang?" This kind of movie I want to see character development through action, not words.

Must be why I hate drama.

Rookie
06-20-2005, 11:37 PM
Dawn 04 was superior to Dawn 78...Because Well, It didn't feel nearly as long. Dawn 78 took forever to get from start finish. Yea, I cared for the characters, yea I liked the story. But Jesus christ it took FOREVER to get done.

Memorable Zombies? What? The Nurse zombie? The stoned zombie that gets his head chopped off by the chopper blades? Dawn 78 was serverely lacking memorable zombies. Or well, Good ones for that matter.

Dawn 04, wasn't nearly as boring or drawn out as 78, the char's wernt as good, the savini gore wasnt there.(Although NONE OF THE ZOMBIES IN 04 WERE PINK OR BLUE) But it was still as good or better IMO
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1.Day
2.Night 68
3.Night 90
4.Dawn 04
5.Dawn 78

corgi37
06-21-2005, 01:22 AM
Heretic! Blasphemer!

Bad Zombie Night
06-21-2005, 04:31 AM
Dawn 04 was superior to Dawn 78...Because Well, It didn't feel nearly as long. Dawn 78 took forever to get from start finish. Yea, I cared for the characters, yea I liked the story. But Jesus christ it took FOREVER to get done.

I know your kidding... This is a prank post, right? :lol:

I liked Dawn '04 very much also, but it was lacking in several areas.


Memorable Zombies? What? The Nurse zombie? The stoned zombie that gets his head chopped off by the chopper blades? Dawn 78 was serverely lacking memorable zombies. Or well, Good ones for that matter.

No memorable Zombies? LOL! You just named a few. :doh:

jackskellington
06-21-2005, 08:41 AM
Dawn 04 was superior to Dawn 78...Because Well, It didn't feel nearly as long. Dawn 78 took forever to get from start finish. Yea, I cared for the characters, yea I liked the story. But Jesus christ it took FOREVER to get done.

Memorable Zombies? What? The Nurse zombie? The stoned zombie that gets his head chopped off by the chopper blades? Dawn 78 was serverely lacking memorable zombies. Or well, Good ones for that matter.

Dawn 04, wasn't nearly as boring or drawn out as 78, the char's wernt as good, the savini gore wasnt there.(Although NONE OF THE ZOMBIES IN 04 WERE PINK OR BLUE) But it was still as good or better IMO
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1.Day
2.Night 68
3.Night 90
4.Dawn 04
5.Dawn 78


Good for you Rookie!! Stand your ground!!! Alot of people here are afraid to bash a Romero movie, especially with 3 days until Land, but you showed exactly what these forums are for...To share your opinion, popular or not!!

Kemper
06-21-2005, 03:05 PM
1. Night...it is so simple and edgy. This really creeps me out still.

2a. Dawn...I love it, but i gotta say...man it feels dated sometimes. When i first saw the review on Sneak Previews when it first came out in warped me for a while. They started the show with the elevator opening...man that was crazy.

2b. Night 90...very well done and underrated

3. Dawn of the Dead 04...I like running zombies...sue me.

4. Day of the dead. It was just(and it may have been on purpose)to claustrophobic for my tastes. I really like it... though after watching the opening scene...why would i want to spend two hours in a bunker? I also thought the acting was too over the top and unbelievable.

5. Return of the living dead-Favorite non-Romero influenced film.

6. Zombie...liked it, but not the look and feel of the zombies.

7. Dead Alive

8. Let Sleeping Corpses Lie

9. Cemetary Man

10. Bio-Zombie(american voiceover) These guys quietly grew as characters

Demons and 28 days later would be in there if the were real zombies.

Blahead
08-18-2005, 10:19 PM
Have any bloopers? I have one ill post more later on...

The part where Ana's husband turns into a zombie she goes into the bathroom and slips into the bathtub you will see the metal bar that holds the shower curtain falls right into the tub the cene changes and this time the metal bar is neatly placed next to her shoulder!

Check it out!

Bad Zombie Night
08-18-2005, 10:33 PM
I hate to do this, but if I don't, somebody else will... There is a well organized movie blooper site online called Moviemistakes.com.... They have a listing there for Dawn of the Dead 2004, and they have found 7 mistakes so far with the film.

Here's the link to the page: Dawn of the Dead (2004) (http://www.moviemistakes.com/film4082) http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif

eardrumbuz
08-19-2005, 12:05 AM
never been to that site, bzn. thanks.

as for dawn 2004, i liked it alot. actually the only dvd i have 2 copies of (already owned it but couldn't resist getting the 2 pack with shaun)...i love a bargain :)
as good as it is, and it is also very different from the original, romero's movie is just a better film. sure i like the scene when they're sitting around eating and talking. if all you want is running, screaming, and killing, you might as well watch trailers and not movies. i was already a teenager (actually 20 i think) when mtv hit the airwaves, and i know how much society has changed since then.
i love chocolate ice cream. there are times when i enjoy fast paced action, music, and jump cuts. but, you know, sometimes i don't get chocolate. and sometimes i get chocolate ice cream with pieces and things mixed in it. i've never complained that a movie was too long. usually they're not long enough. mostly, i think comedies can work well being under 100 minutes. for me, most other movies just require more time to take in the whole experience. an example of the exception is the italian horror films, where atmosphere comes before plot and dialog. when the atmosphere is so surreal, i can be very satisfied with a shorter running time, taking in all the visuals and doing without a lot of dialog.

Divided Soul
08-21-2005, 09:01 AM
I hate to do this, but if I don't, somebody else will... There is a well organized movie blooper site online called Moviemistakes.com.... They have a listing there for Dawn of the Dead 2004, and they have found 7 mistakes so far with the film.

Here's the link to the page: Dawn of the Dead (2004)


Great sites.... Thanks!

midniteloser
08-22-2005, 12:22 AM
I didn't like it. :puke:!!! In my humble opinion, it was :poo:. It just bothered me to see the original tarnished into some running-zombie, heavy metal soundtrack-having, over-produced remake.

No offense to the fans. :doh:.

I just don't think it was necessary.

Victor Clark
08-24-2005, 09:30 PM
I liked the movie! And just so you know:
1.It HAD memorial zombies in the movie! Vivian, the one armed Asian guy, the fat chick, the guy with his legs ripped off, the list goes on.
2. Even though it's different than the origional, it had a way more realistic feel than the origional Dawn with the escape from the sub division thing. That's what I would've done if I was Ana.
3.Even though the origional Dawn characters had more character, the new people had their own character to give that I personally thought was cool.
4.If you don't like the shooting, chases, blood, gore, and explosions, why the hell do you have a TV!?
I like the new Dawn better, and I'm sticking to it! :)

Rookie
08-24-2005, 10:00 PM
me to, its better imo.

Victor Clark
08-25-2005, 11:45 PM
me to, its better imo.

Good to know someone else in the forums knows a good movie when they see one!

Roger
08-26-2005, 10:08 PM
This movie was alright. I just didn't like the fact that the zombies ran, instead of walked.

Zombie Mark
08-26-2005, 10:55 PM
This thread has been around for awhile, so I may have already put in my two cents on this - so heres two more!

I truly liked Dawn 2004 - it was a great movie, and I don't buy into the criticisms, particularly the alleged lack of character. For example, people have criticized the "I was best at being a father" scene as hokie, but as a father of 3, that actually made me really think how horrible it would be to survive my children. And I think the maturation of CJ into a self-sacrificing team player was a great example of character development, as well as the whole Kenneth/Andy male-bonding relationship.

That said, Dawn '78 is the better movie. Not a knock at all on the remake, but there is just a general sense of dread, gloom, etc., something that I really can't put into words now that is just deeper or more fulfilling about the original. I am of course biased as Dawn '78 is my all time favorite movie, but I stick by my basic assertions that: 1) Dawn '78 is the better movie 2) Dawn '04 is close, and better than the vast majority of all other films.

And I really, really, really hope there is a sequal to Dawn 2004!!

Grinder
03-10-2008, 05:54 PM
Reviving this one.

I think that Dawn of the Dead 2004 was a solidly good horror/action film, and I really enjoyed it more than I thought I would. I did like the characters but in more of an action movie type way than say the longer character development in the '78 version.

I really liked the '78 version for showing a greater sense of weariness, loss of morale, confusion and despair. In a way the '78 version is summed up by the line, "we're blowin' it ourselves..."

On the other hand the 2004 version was really fun, a totally different experience altogether. Things like Tom Savini's cameo, the fitting in of "When there's no more room in Hell..." and actually having Ken Foree deliver the line as a televangelist--brilliant and clever. Yeah it has people doing some really stupid things, but then I felt that most of them are things people would be stupid about. (for example Andy not mentioning that he's running low on food--people irl have died on camping trips for lack of mentioning something that's kinda important)

zombiekilling101
03-10-2008, 09:50 PM
I love the original and I love the remake. Prefer the original but the remake was just a fantastic movie. IMo

drtongue
04-12-2008, 11:40 PM
Not as good as the original, and didn't like the reference to 9mm being a "*****" caliber. Also the whole Andy thing. (Though he was the only reason Kenneth stayed.) They could have thrown a few "propane bombs" to clear the area between them and got him. F'en chips!!! I also didn't understand at the end why they ran into the dock??? All in all, I own it and watch it now and again.........

ZombieGrrL
04-29-2008, 08:33 AM
I love both DOTD '78 & DOTD '04 & treat them as separate movies. I don't favour one over another.

It's too easy to compare but really, all they share is a name, feature a mall & zombies.

I wonder if it would have been better for them to use another name, instead of classing it as a "remake". The use of the mall would still bring comparisons though I suppose!

Hoot
06-08-2008, 06:29 AM
....I did not like this film 1, zombies dont run 2 im not a 9mm fan but im not dumb enough to praise the 38. while badmouthing it. Also mackay pfeiffer really?? beacuse when i think zombies you know i think ghetto fab. we threw him in there might as well have him shoot it out with an elephant...no that wont work.. meh just make it an old lady ok......and who is the man that would risk his neck for his brother man SHA..imean VING ...ok to be fair he wasnt that bad in this movie ...but still what the **** is the point of having shaft on your team of zombie killers if all he does is bitch about his dead brother...boils my piss i tells ya...i guess what im saying it lacked the feeling of the original it was more of a gaggle **** of rejects who sat around waiting to die:naughty:

kanUsurvive
06-18-2008, 03:08 AM
I think DOTD04 is on it's way to becoming a classic. It's one of a few films that I got watch day after day, and not get tired of it. I love it.

alpineashes
07-16-2008, 07:39 PM
I love the remake. Thought Ving was awesome. I like what happens to the hero at the end... I didn't see it coming although some may have. The zombies had great make-up, and it didn't disgrace the original. Overall, I was really surprised.

UNDEAD FRED
07-16-2008, 08:29 PM
The remake was great, loved the 1st 10 minutes of it. But I still liked Dawn of the Dead 1978 way better.

Steve P
07-18-2008, 01:39 PM
Clearly I'm in the minority in considering Dawn '04 just another dull, white-bread remake of an edgy seventies classic. Fast of pace and slow of brain, with everything that made the original smart and unique carefully neutered.

The bastards did the same to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and I suggest rather than encouraging further blasphemy we should demand they be dragged from their plush Hollywood offices and horse-whipped.

Perhaps it's my age. :-)

DarthJoe8
07-18-2008, 02:00 PM
The bastards did the same to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and I suggest rather than encouraging further blasphemy we should demand they be dragged from their plush Hollywood offices and horse-whipped.

Perhaps it's my age. :-)


Why the hate on TCM?:lol: I agree with the DOTD remake, but compared to all the other zombie crap out there its a good Zed flick. As a remake.....meh.:drinking:

Steve P
07-18-2008, 03:45 PM
Why the hate on TCM?

It's the remake I hate. The original is a serious work of art. The remake is a soulless, stupid mess.

Militaris
04-11-2009, 11:27 PM
04 is the first zombie film I watched and it got me interested in the topic. If I had watched one of Romero's films first I might have had different thoughts.

I consider that 04 is a much better film then the original, the original just seem a bit to cheesy with the zombies being so useless that it is hard to see them being a real threat. If it did not include the entire running through the mall surrounding with dozens of zombies being completely untouched I would have liked it more. The zombies were just to docile to be scary. If they were slightly more arrgressive like the ones in Day or Land it would have been better.

Why did they decide to move the trucks before raiding the weapon stores, their long rifles were useless while doing that :doh:

Maybe I was to hyped up before watching Dawn because of all of the positive comments it has received on internet forums like this one that the reality let it down.