...... Tycoon?! (brainstorming a bit)

[SpaceTurtle]

I know it is crap to speculate about unlaid eggs or random ideas for games, cause i know we all have been dreaming about Zombie games and the like for aeons. Mostly about Shooters...
But after I saw the news about the "Prison Tycoon" demo today (aaand maybe because i read The Walking Dead comic) it came to my mind...
....why not with Zombies?!

I mean there are so many Tycoon games out there and most of them are shite. Also because, except for Railroad Tycoon and the "known&established" titles, they are made by smaller game developer companies.

I ponder if it would pay to write them about this idea with a portfolie of how sucessfull the zombie genre became due to new movies etc etc.... :p Maybe it pais off, who knows...

Then again they could also use the feature of the XCOM games. Which would be pretty similar to a zombie outbreak imo, just a little bit different :p i mean a wordwide zombie outbreak....or a worldwide alien attack :p would be ubercool to build bases and stuff over the world with the rest of the survivors, slowly making contact with remote strongholds etc etc

*sigh* i have a dream

[Dead Remains]

I like that idea. And I have a few dreams for zombie games myself that are a little bizarre. For example, one of my ideas would be like sim farm or harvest moon except instead of taking care of your own farm, you have to take care of your own cemetery (and in a "cemetery man" type style) you have to go around killing any returners/zombies that arise in order to maintain your farm. I am going to college to become a video game designer, and maybe, just maybe I can make this game come true. :)

[Chibi]

haha its not a bad idea, i mean god look at all the Sim and tycoon games , Sim Ant for gods sake LOL u controlled the ant colonies AS an ant.

yeah i think the way a zombie version of these games would go is by you start where the world is overrun and you need to get control or gain order back.

[Dead Remains]

I've already taken some pre-college classes for computer games and I made a "ninja vs. zombies" game where you played as..... a well, NINJA! and you were fighting zombies in a supermarket with either your numchucks or you could pick up food products such as cheese or a can of spam and throw it at their heads to kill them. Since this was one of my first games it is not that quite advanced....haha. But I start college in late august and as soon as I am assigned to do my first real computer game, it will be the zombie-sims idea all the way! :lol:

[downwiththesickness]

If I had one wish it would be that I was an unbelievably powerful indistructable warrior who ruled the world. If I had many wishes one of them would be for a very good zombie RTS. I can see it now :evil: .
I would love to say all of my ideas for such a fantastic game but be bothered, I cannot. :-P

[ZOM13E con]

yup .... i think everyone dream and daydream about zombies and zombie games
i myself think of zombie games. If anyone played brainbread it would be like that except like a city of the dead kind of online rpg.

Many people are working on one right now like "no more room in hell" for HL2. what i really like about that game is that if you have a gun the crosshair doesnt show cause avarage citizens dont have expert aim.

My zombie game would have that except that the secondary fire would be to go in the aiming stance (a stance where you pull the gun to eyes view in the center of the screen and you walk slower cause you are aiming) also you would be in a town like city of the dead where everytime you kill a zombie you get xp (to level up) and money (to buy armor, vehecles, and weapons)

[Dead Remains]

Hell, I wish every time of video game could have zombies in it. Even remake barbie horse adventures with zombies in it. lol.

[SpaceTurtle]

Oh well, the upcoming titles may be the Dawn of the Dead "Games" :p
meanwhile i played every friggin pc zombie game yet available... i hope those french guys at krysalide did not cancel their project :/ it sucks so much that Dead Rising will be for Xbox360 ARGL!
luckily re4 will come out for ps2 soon, cause i aint buying no GC no matter how cheap it is :p
meanwhile i watch the "Consolevania" Resident Evil Special and drool till my mouth runs dry...

[Dead Remains]

i have the gamecube version of re4 but i am gonna buy it for ps2 also for the extras and i think i am going to buy the chainsaw controller for ps2 also cuz it looks sooo swweeettt!
controller pic (http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=2898235&article_id=632103&channel_id=192&page_title=Chainsaw+Controller+Coming+to+PS2&adtag=network%3Dign%26size%3D468x60%26channel%3Dge ar%26site%3Dgear_hub%26channel%3Dnews%26type%3Dpar tner)

[downwiththesickness]

Now THAT'S a controller :saw: :?

I didn't know RE4 was gonna be on PS2 and finding that out has given me so much to look forward to!

I've been thinking of a new free online zombie game which is like Runescape but with humans and zombies. That would rock so hard! :rock:

[Chibi]

I've been thinking of a new free online zombie game which is like Runescape but with humans and zombies. That would rock so hard! :rock:[/QUOTE]



i been playing MMORPG's for about 4 years and i dont think there will EVER be a game based on just zombies, it wouldnt have any gameplay and lastability.

[Dead Remains]

you could go in two different directions with the game. One would be controlling a large zombie army to attack the living or you could control a large group of people trying to survive massive hordes of zombies fighting them off in whatever they can.

[Dark Prince]

I've been thinking of a new free online zombie game which is like Runescape but with humans and zombies. That would rock so hard! :rock:



i been playing MMORPG's for about 4 years and i dont think there will EVER be a game based on just zombies, it wouldnt have any gameplay and lastability.[/QUOTE]

That's a shame :cry:

[SpaceTurtle]

i been playing MMORPG's for about 4 years and i dont think there will EVER be a game based on just zombies, it wouldnt have any gameplay and lastability.

I thought about this a long time and I must admit that you are right if you mean a 1:1 consersion of the "default" Zombie Scenario (like the description of Max Brooks Book "Zombie Survival Guide").
But if there were...

-different types of Zombies (like in the Resident Evil Series)
-a "strength" scale of zombies and humans close to the Reality, without fancy superpowers and flashing light effects (Bodybuilders that turned into Zombies not long ago still have a lot of strength, Thin Geeks :)
and rotten Zombies with strained muscle tissue have less strenght; do i have to mention the effects on other attributes?)

...then an important part of MMORPGs would be fulfilled...a rich world with different creatures!

The problem of the game would be "the bite" or any other way of infection.
I mean it is not as easy as in other MMORPGs to justify the death and respawn of the character.
Sure you could do it like in any other game...some angel of life ressurects you, you are cloned or no explanation at all, but...
...this is an important part of the "atmosphere" if you were bitten an ressurect "just like that"...
I still do not have a proper alternative to dying in such a game...

Also it would would be neat with all the gory textures and postapocalyptic settings but in the end it would end up like any other MMORPG, that you got areas to level with less and more enemies spawning and the further you proceed with stronger enemies...and here is another problem...
The Atmosphere requires hordes of zombies, zombie rushes and mobs of zombies..like any good zombie scenario should have

A MMORPG could not deliver ways to avoid those situations by creative means, which are required to tickle our senses.
Basically it is just Hack 'n' Slash, next enemy, Hack 'n' Slash...
Maybe one of you wants to defend the genre, but be honest in the end its the same in every MMORPG moving on some field from enemy to enemy, oh well if you are some sort of wizard there might be area effect spells/multi target spells etc but well.
For the mainstream MMORPG it is easy to make the players team up and also act as a team by creating monsters only beatable by groups of different classes (except extreme-highlvl players maybe). But even that is just substracting HP with strong players from the monsters and adding HP to yourself by weak players with higher healing abilites...
It is not bad...but it IS pretty basic and simple...

So earning experience points by "killing" zombies would be utterly dumb...
The main Experience honeypot should be building up your Defenses..saving your skin.
Like using tools, securing safe spots (to be more secure XD) helping others out.

An example how difficult it is to make a MP "Action" Zombie Scenario game is RE:Outbreak...(also because of lack of voice com.) It is not so well rated.

The problem are not the "Skills" and "Attributes" but rather the very essence of Gameplay...how the f*** should it be played as a MMORPG...I have no clue

Have you?

PS: Fantasy Undead suck :p "Wohooo i am a Lich. I raise 5 undead, wohooo"
That would be all too easy... I mean you can explain everything in a game by sorcery...*Abrakadabra* there it is, no questions, magic...