Official Land of the Dead Thread

[corgi37]

What about a link, zombie2005?

Here is another Land review I swiped off Homepageofthedead. Its got spoilers, so don’t read if you don’t want to. I am more excited than ever. Its getting close!

By JUSTIN CHANG

'Land of the Dead'
Asia Argento and Simon Baker find themselves at war with humans and zombies in ''George A Romero's Land of the Dead.''
Film Reviews From the Same Period

George A. Romero shows 'em how it's done in "Land of the Dead," resurrecting his legendary franchise with top-flight visuals, terrific genre smarts and tantalizing layers of implication. Nerve-shredding fourth installment may not fully reclaim the visceral or satirical impact of the writer-director's 1978 masterpiece "Dawn of the Dead," but it's still a satisfyingly splattery feast of guts and ideas. Though Universal isn't flogging it half as aggressively as last year's "Dawn" remake, pic should grope its way to killer B.O. with no small help from Romero cultists, whose devotion will be nothing short of zombielike.

The horror maestro has come a long way since the third film in the cycle, 1985's "Day of the Dead," and an even longer way since his seminal 1968 classic "Night of the Living Dead." This time around, Romero is playing with bigger stars and a higher (though still modest) budget of about $15 million, as well as a new shooting location (Toronto, instead of his native Pittsburgh).

That said, "Land" is a tour de force of not only independent filmmaking but independent thinking, rigorously worked out on all craft and technical levels yet enlivened by its twisted engagement with the real world.

Romero's apocalyptic vision of an earth beset by endlessly self-perpetuating flesh-eaters remains as relevant and resonant as ever, and this time he's even injected some not-so-subtle political invective into the proceedings. At one point Kaufman, a corrupt, gray-haired city official, declares, "We don't negotiate with terrorists," making this the second actioner in recent months, after "Star Wars: Episode III -- Revenge of the Sith," to lob a grenade in the direction of the White House.

The city in question is one of humankind's last remaining holdouts, an island metropolis surrounded by water and electric fences that keep out the walking undead. Perched in a high tower that dominates the skyline, Kaufman (Dennis Hopper, his brow furrowed with self-entitlement) owns everything and everyone in the exclusive community of Fiddler's Green, advertised as the place "where life goes on," and where upper-class citizens are admitted only via waiting list. Those still outside on the streets, meanwhile, are in the early stages of revolution.

Cholo, one of several soldiers sent out on rescue missions to bring back food and supplies, sets things in motion when Kaufman refuses to let him move into Fiddler's Green. The disgruntled mercenary (a hot-headed John Leguizamo) promptly hijacks Dead Reckoning, an armored military vehicle that holds enough firepower to bomb out the city, which he threatens to do unless Kaufman meets his demands.

In response, Kaufman commissions Cholo's superior Riley (Simon Baker) to recover the stolen tank, accompanied by sharpshooter sidekick Charlie (Robert Joy) and gold-hearted hooker Slack (Asia Argento, putting a tough-talking spin on a familiar role).

Tension between Riley and Cholo, effectively fleshed out by Baker and especially Leguizamo, reps only one of the story's intriguing contrasts. Both guys want out of a nightmare situation, but where Riley hopes to start over away from civilization, social-climbing Cholo wants to retreat inside, into the ranks of the city's elite.

Romero clearly has a lot on his mind, working through issues of class, segregation, individualism and personal responsibility. As always, the scenario eerily and amusingly mirrors the times: Astute viewers will laugh at how the undead phenomenon has already become commercial fodder in the form of theme-park-style attractions and bloodsports. More chillingly, the gleaming facade of Fiddler's Green implies an entire nation struggling and failing to lead normal lives in a war zone, turning against itself in the process.

Most suggestive of all are the zombies themselves, who have become frighteningly resourceful and smart, having learned to communicate as well as use tools and weapons. Unlike the trendy, fast-moving denizens of the recent "Dawn" redux and "28 Days Later," Romero's walkers still shamble along slowly, yet with an increasingly purposeful gait that makes them seem all the more human. They also look more realistically undead than ever, thanks to pic's ace makeup team (led by Greg Nicotero) and special contact lenses that lend their eyes a bluish, otherworldly glaze.

Pic's ideas about continual evolution and advancement extend equally to the carnage, which for most auds will be "Land's" ultimate test. And Romero rises to the occasion with a mastery, discipline and gleeful sense of invention that shows just how far a slim budget can go given the right sensibility. Fans of the trademark spewing, sausage-like intestines will be quite appeased; few will be prepared for the semi-decapitated zombie (emphasis on semi) or the ugly disadvantages of having a pierced navel (you've been warned).

Romero has a way of at once honoring and updating modern horror-pic conventions, relying more here on shock cuts (with super-sharp editing by Michael Doherty) and surprise zombie ambushes than the queasy claustrophobia that pervaded "Night" and "Dawn." The upshot, happily, is a similarly blissful sense of unease.

Miroslaw Baszak's nuanced lensing, finding endless varieties in a predominantly gray palette, accentuates Arvinder Grewal's chilly production design at every turn. Reinhold Heil and Johnny Klimek's score is serviceably grim, with repeated patterns that evoke the restless walk of the damned.

[Tom K]

Is anyone from here going to the premiere in Pittsburgh on Wednesday night? Just looking for fellow fans to hang with during the after party...

[zombie2005]

I seen the trailer on TV but i'll try to find it on the web

[skelington]

The station I work for has a sneakpeek of Land of the Dead this tuesday I hope I can see it then.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Saw some new Tv spots on the ABC last night, during the Spurs and Pistons game... They showed some Zombie standing there holding musical instruments.

[Some_Day...]

Saw some new Tv spots on the ABC last night, during the Spurs and Pistons game... They showed some Zombie standing there holding musical instruments.

:drool: a musical instrument?....oooooook

[Airborne]

Is anyone from here going to the premiere in Pittsburgh on Wednesday night? Just looking for fellow fans to hang with during the after party...

Unfortunately, no. I can't make it (even though I'm from PGH). I have to wait until early next week to see it---grrrrrrr.

[corgi37]

SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!









Evidently, the movie starts with a zombie wedding and the band are trying to play their instruments!

[Zombie Survivor]

Wow, that something new. I really can't wait to see LotD. My love for zombies grow and grow each time when I see a DVD, play a game, but this is to hard for me to handle... the excitement! :)

[Nomad]

Quick note...The Horror Channel is a co-sponsor of the pitts premiere of Land of the Dead, so look for us at the show and probably get some free junk!

Also, if you can't wait for this movie to come out, turn your excitement into action! The horror channel has three zombie contests going on right now. Just click the "I Dig The Dead" banner on the front page. We wanted to show Romero how much we love him so join in!
www.horrorchannel.com

[Detroit Dogg]

woo! Just bought my opening day tickets! Yay! Woo! *other Excalmation!* Il be the one getting there 2 hours early so I can pick JUST the right seat. Nah not 2 maybe 45 minutes though.....

~Dre

[Emperor]

I mentioned this in the chat forum but thought I would mention it here as well... If anyone in the Seattle area wants a ticket to the LOTD advance screening, we here at Revenant Magazine have received a couple passes and posters. First come first served, each pass admits 2 people. Pm me if interested.

Screening of Land of the Land
When: June 21st at 7pm (get there early)
Where: Seattle at Pacific Place theater Downtown
Why: Because you love zombies of course

And here's me sitting here with 2+ months still to go :(

If I start swimming now.......

~curls up into a ball and cries in the corner~

[preacher]

Bewitched is getting mixed reviews so hopefully this will play in LOTDs favour

[Kemper]

Why no early reviews?

[preacher]

yeah everyone remembers when the phantom menace came out and strangely there were no previews or reviews available.

but herbie opens on the 22nd and theres no reviews for that either

and spielbergs put a ban on war of the worlds reviews until the end of the month so its not necessarily because its ****

[SGT. DEATH]

On my way to the cinema tonight to see Batman Begins I noticed a bill board advertising Lucozade(hope I spelt this right) but it said Undead its what on the inside that counts.It showed hand reaching upto a bottle of lucozade in the same fashion as a zombie flick cover sort of style.Now what I want to know is did these guys sponsor land (I know they did not sponsor Undead) or are they just jumping on the zombie band wagon? :drinking: For those who dont know,lucozade is an energy drink.Ill post a pic of the billboard some time as well.

[Quinn]

Go here http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_4529.html if you want to see Simon Pegg as a zombie in the film
Have a good day
Quinn

[Pain]

Thanks for that Quinn :)

Wouldn't have guessed it myself :x

[corgi37]

Yeah, i wouldnt worry about it. LOTD has generated alot of interest. Its all about economics of scale. LOTD cost under $20mill to make. Dawn 04, about $27mill. LOTD's advertising campaign is no doubt smaller than Dawn's, but i would say Universal consider it a "niche" movie, as opposed to a all out blockbuster. And, thats fair enough. It is "R" after all. Wasting advertising dollars isnt going to make it more successful. It will just mean it has to earn more to make a profit. And, LOTD will easily get its money back by the end of the weekend.

I think the people going to see Bewitched or Herbie aint exactly going to be LOTD or GAR fanatics.

1 is a kids film and something for some pimply teen jerk to take his annoying teen bitch to, in the hope of scoring a cheap feel.

The other is a piece of crap starring a very over rated skinny self loving bitch. Aussie or not, i hate Nicole Kidman.

Now, a REAL Aussie is in LOTD. Modest, charming, hunky - just like all of us.

[preacher]

nicoles a great actress, she sometimes makes a duff film (liek bewitched) but overall i think shes cool. :)

but bewitched will flop

[Bad Zombie Night]

:drool: a musical instrument?....oooooook

Yeah, it did kinda look weird, but I guess that fits into Romero's idea of Zombie's doing things they use to remember from their past lives... Then again, it was a quick three second clip I saw.

[Detroit Dogg]

Yeah I saw em to. It was right near the end of the trailer. and there on a bandstand.


~Dre

[Pain]

This one time, at band camp.... :evil:

Only 3 days now for you guys :) And nearly 3 months for me :cry:

[Bad Zombie Night]

Yeah I saw em to. It was right near the end of the trailer. and there on a bandstand.


~Dre
Yep... That's the one!
Just before that, they showed a Zombie that looked pretty rotted away... It looked like one of those ROTLD type Zombies. :loon:

[Detroit Dogg]

Bub!

It's Bub Bitches! (http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1300&page=3) or at least a Bub look alike!


~Dre

[Quinn]

A couple of interviews along with some cool pictures here http://www.horrorchannel.com/dread/modules.php?op=modload&name=Interviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=91 with Greg Nicetero, who seems like a really nice fella and a big fan of the genre (Hey ZAGG or Jason, any chance of maybe sending him a petition similar to Romero? Thanks a lot in advance). And here with Romero http://www.horrorchannel.com/dread/modules.php?op=modload&name=Interviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=90. Both are great and have caused me to get uber psyched about the film, especially the effects aspect of Nicateros interview. Also on chud.com the founder of the site gave it a great review here http://chud.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82045.
Have a good day
Quinn

[Bad Zombie Night]

A couple of interviews along with some cool pictures here http://www.horrorchannel.com/dread/modules.php?op=modload&name=Interviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=91 with Greg Nicetero, who seems like a really nice fella and a big fan of the genre (Hey ZAGG or Jason, any chance of maybe sending him a petition similar to Romero? Thanks a lot in advance).
I don't know Quinn... I don't think Greg Nicetero would be given the attention, and generate the same enthusiasm that GAR would bring to ATZ.

GAR interview link was nice though.

[Zombie Survivor]

Yeah, GAR's interview was great.

[Irongeek]

Looks like some early audiences have rated Land of the Dead on IMDB. It’s already tied Shaun of the Dead as best Zombie film by IMDB Rating:

http://www.irongeek.com/grabzombie.php

This bodes well.

[preacher]

not really, as does anyone here really count shaun of the dead as the best zombie film?

i dont see how theyve seen it either. considering theres absolutely no reviews online i have my doubts about anyone claiming to have seen it

[SGT. DEATH]

Could this be linked to land of the deads release some how?http://img175.echo.cx/img175/258/undead26nt.jpg :drinking:

[Quinn]

Another interview with greg nicetero with some new pics is here http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=20526. Great interview, some of the effects desciped sound really quite nasty (ie the one where a guy gets his face torn off! :puke: ).
Have a good day
Quinn

[Some_Day...]

Could this be linked to land of the deads release some how?http://img175.echo.cx/img175/258/undead26nt.jpg :drinking:

That looks cool...but I think they're just jumping on the zombie band waggon. Everyone will be doing it soon. :roll:

[preacher]

Could this be linked to land of the deads release some how?http://img175.echo.cx/img175/258/undead26nt.jpg :drinking:

i hope there isnt any product placement. though a movie affiliating itself and promoting itself on a product is nothing new

even if that ad does remind me of goatsee

[Irongeek]

My understanding it that there have been press previews and a few other showing. Also, I would have to say Shaun in a very valid contender for the #1 spot, hell, for me it only falls behind Dawn 78 as the best zombie film of all time.

[Nomad]

That's not the case...we did a review.
www.horrorchannel.com
If you cant find it I'll dig up a link for ya. We've also got intoerviews from the press junket and 3 huuuuuuuuuuge contest...If you dont mind me mentioning for the 5th tme. ;)
-nomad

[SGT. DEATH]

I love the add and think its a good way to raise money for films.But I do think this is just band wagon jumping as I think they could have used a more direct add related to the film.I was over joyed when I first seen this.Soon a lot more of these type of adds will appear and this will help promote the film.

[Irongeek]

What is the above ad for? I collect energy drink cans and would like to pick it up.

[SGT. DEATH]

What is the above ad for? I collect energy drink cans and would like to pick it up.
Lucozade. :drinking:

[Exile]

i hope there isnt any product placement. though a movie affiliating itself and promoting itself on a product is nothing new

even if that ad does remind me of goatsee

How does that remind you of goatse?

[Some_Day...]

More to the point...what the hell is a goatsee?! :drool:

[preacher]

More to the point...what the hell is a goatsee?! :drool:


do an image search on google then...

erase your internet history, your temporary files and burn your computer.

you may want to rinse your eyeballs with bleach while youre at it

[preacher]

wow 2 out of 10! 2 out of 5 (equating to 4/10)!

reviews trickling in now from users at rottentomatoes...

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/land_of_the_dead/?show=all

[Quinn]

At first I was kinda freaked out about the scores, but after reading the reviews I have got to say that the particular reviewers seemed kinda amertur. Now writing this on a website devoted to zombie films may seem kinda dumb in accusing some of being ametuer but allow me to explain such a claim. A) The review by Mastracci toward the end seemed to be pissed at Romero for not filming it in Pitsburgh and then became angry at him for trying to pass it off via cgi stuff. While this does not confirm a person ability to judge a films merits it certainly does not aid the case. B) The Kelly Parks review asks the question why do people not start clearing out zombies and begin to have roof top gardens? My thought was that Romero was not attempting to answer the question of what to do and turn it into an action movie, rather use the apoclypse as a twisted reflection of the current socio-ecnomic enviornment in America. Also one of the things that bugged me about the Parks interview and I quote
"This is a rough society....... and much of the movie centers on the dissatisfaction of many of the characters with that arrangement. This struck me as odd and kind of forced. It would suck that the top dogs got all the best stuff .....I'd put up with it."
I think thats the attitude that Romero is trying to show is wrong both in the film and America, people just kinda settling for what appears to be "safe" despite the conditions versus the right thing to do. As Romero puts it "the new normal". Also the two reviews are kinda tempered by the Variety one that seems to love it (then again I dont know Varietys rep as a review source.)
Sorry for the long rant, and thanks preach for putting up the reviews.
Have a good day
Quinn

[Ryan1984]

So what exactly is the official run time of this movie?I've heard 90 minutes from Aint It Cool News.88 minutes in a George interview.And now 100 minutes in the Hollywood Reporter review.

[skelington]

All I'm going to say is Hell F@*#en yes this movie rocks! :clap: Sorry I had to get that out of my system.

[Quinn]

Not to be a total bastard but the Mastracci review makes the comment that it is like Stalin writing and directing a film about the proleteriat as zombies, which is a crappy metaphour. As a person who is earning a Masters in international affairs and adminstration I feel it is my duty to state that a more accurate metaphour would be Ingles or Marxs (mostly Ingles).
Have a good day
Quinn

[Quinn]

Also Fangoria has a two part set visit here
http://www.fangoria.com/fearful_feature.php?id=4245 and here http://www.fangoria.com/fearful_feature.php
Have a good day
Quinn

[Bad Zombie Night]

wow 2 out of 10! 2 out of 5 (equating to 4/10)!

reviews trickling in now from users at rottentomatoes...

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/land_of_the_dead/?show=all

It's never a good thing when anyone gives sour reviews to a movie that hasn't premiered yet... Maybe they are not Zombie fans, or have some issues with the way GAR takes this movie. :roll:

[Bastard Turtle]

Thanks for the goatsee...I need that...a lot.

That was incredible sarcasm...never before have I ever really wanted a thousand tiny ants to swarm my eyeballs and gorge upon them...Until seeing for myself what a goatsee is.

[corgi37]

Man, the worst part is the last 2 days or so. For me, of course, its August 4th, but i am looking forward to the reviews from my Yank mates here and elsewhere.

[Zombielover]

Saw the Advance Screening today It's near to 2 hours and it's freakin AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I won't say more but people will be very happy!! His best movie by far and that's saying something

[preacher]

this one...

http://www.feoamante.com/Movies/NOTLD/Land_Dead.htm

seems to have legitimate concerns about the actual story and what would logically happen in a situation like that

and to be honest these are all problems weve pointed out ourselves

e.g. why is the society like that when money doesnt mean anything, why dont they grow crops, the prospect of them going to scavenge for food that (even in tins) would be about 5 years past its use by date

it looks like the storys forgoton logic so GAR can have his social commentary about the rich/poor divide.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Just two more days guys, and ghouls. :evil:

[Zombie Survivor]

Land of the Dead is going to rock. That's it. I love zombies so much. Thats why I say: "Bbbbbrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiinssssssssss !"

[Some_Day...]

I'm sooo sexcited for you lucky peeps!!! I gotta wait ages for it!!! I'm afraid that my expectations are too high and then I'll think the film is shyte! :-(

[Kemper]

Look at Dawn of the deads reviews...wow

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1005339-dawn_of_the_dead/

Be wary guys...these days everyone thinks they know more than the directors. Every tom dick and harry can review these days.

[Kemper]

this one...

http://www.feoamante.com/Movies/NOTLD/Land_Dead.htm

seems to have legitimate concerns about the actual story and what would logically happen in a situation like that

and to be honest these are all problems weve pointed out ourselves

e.g. why is the society like that when money doesnt mean anything, why dont they grow crops, the prospect of them going to scavenge for food that (even in tins) would be about 5 years past its use by date

it looks like the storys forgoton logic so GAR can have his social commentary about the rich/poor divide.

Having not seen it...i would add that, what do you think they were doing in the other movies...this is 20 years after Day. All that stuff has been tried.

Also, why are people always saying you must find something new in the zombie Genre. Most movie we see don't offer anything new. It is a double standard. Judge whether this is a good movie...not whether it creates some mythical new subtext or genre.

You know...i think i'd rather wallow in some 17th century costume piece. Because we know they have alot of new stuff to offer.

[Bastard Turtle]

You people do know that Land is only 3 years after the original outbreak...Right? So then, much of the food would still be good. I've got canned food in the house thats much older than that, and its still good. And then, things like bottled drinks don't go bad, they can last a very long time. I have a souvenier bottle of Coke that came when UNC won the title in 84, I popped it open and drank it once, tasted great.

And in three years, its not all so bad, at least not as bad as you'd like to say.

Then, money, it doesn't have value except in this protected city, mainly because those in charge had lots of it, and want to keep the power that it gave them.

[Dagnammit]

I think that regular, pre-apocalyptic money might be worthless, purely because there would be lots of it lying around (remember the opening credits of Day of the Dead). That's what we call hyper-inflation, kiddies. However, there is no reason that a small civilisation such as this protected city would not develop and produce a new token currency. In fact, it is extremely likely that this is the case, as such a captalistic society cannot, by definition, exist without its own currency.

[Quinn]

My take on the whole money issues is kinda simple, in that people still use money and have appreciation of it because that is what is normal to them and what is helping them cope with their environment. Kinda like a security blanket that ends up exploiting them. Just read the splicedwire review and it is basically like the Kelly review that Preacher pointed out only he thought the smart zombie idea should have been further used. Also he called the scares medicore compared to last years Dawn but also praises its use of slow cinematography so what are you gonna do. Also one of my main problems with the three low reviews is that they always bring up questions like "Why doesnt the movie answer what happend to the government?", my reaction is that in order to tell a good story you have to take a little slice of the pie. In fact all of Romeros films deal with aspects of a world as opposed to the big picture.
Also I have a question and a link. Question: Are we supposed to view Land in the continuity of the three films before (ie. the question of the government brought up in Day) or just the overall rules of used in each film (zombies rembering past events, noggin death ect.)?
Links: An interview with Simon Baker: http://www.horrorchannel.com/dread/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1973
Another review at AICN: http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=20542
Have a good day
Quinn

[Kemper]

If you have money...you get in the city. If not you stay out. It weeds out the bad people so to speak. In the city people still have to function...and people outside have to deal with them and any cities that are similar. Wanting money isn't stupid.

[preacher]

nothing but great things in from the two reviews at aintitcool.com

though the unofficial tomato readings at 33%, amateur user rating at 80%

looks like people are either loving it or hating it

[SGT. DEATH]

Got SFX magazine july issue and it has the first decent coverage of the movie with 2 whole pages of pics(no new ones) but gives nine reasons to get excited!Get this one. :clap:

[Pain]

Thanks for the info, I'll look out for that Sgt :)

[preacher]

Thanks for the goatsee...I need that...a lot.

That was incredible sarcasm...never before have I ever really wanted a thousand tiny ants to swarm my eyeballs and gorge upon them...Until seeing for myself what a goatsee is.

He he. If you liked that you should image google tubgirl and see what comes up

bewitched has got 40, herbies got 55% so it looks like critically the only competition Lands got is "march of the penguins" which has 100% review percentage

[Zombie Survivor]

Can't wait to see LotD in the cinema!

[SquidBoy]

Saw Dream of the Dead (i.e. short making of on IFC) and I am excited for the flick.

A Little Rant...

A few things to remember. Since when do critics have a clue about a decent film? A critic, in a sense, is part of the clone army governed by the Academy (oscars and such). If a great film, outside of the box, was shown to them, chances are they wouldn't have the balls (due to their job position or mind set) to actually praise it.. Although its George, whose highly regarded throughout the horror and indie film scene, the recent boom in zombie flicks will also have an effect, whether that be a bad taste left by such and such or whatever or a the belief that zombies are track stars, critics in my opinion are the last place to go for a good review, they get paid to trash flicks so that certain flicks go on to have 100 million dollar opening weekends, failed screenwriters themselves, they are jealous and are now swayed by the almighty dollar...

Its all about the viewers, people like us who actually find positive points
in B movies, saving graces in the 8th sequel of a film, those who actually love the films for what they are.. And the dead series changed film making, opened doors for hundreds of clones, and personally motivated my love for horror as a child. Where else could vhs coverart scare the crap out of you when you were 7? Only getting to actually view the movies at a friend's house, who were luckily bless with liberal parents...

I promised myself, not to read anything about the film before I saw it, but alas I did, and I will not let bad reviews or commentary change my expectations...

I can not wait for Friday, I will be there with a open mind for one of horror's masters...

Oh and about the money issue in the movie, its probably just a political statement, for which I will love, nothing pisses me off about this country more then its seperation of wealth and power.. And in Dream he even talked about it having political symbolism, akin to post 9/11 shananigins and how it relates to his film in some sense, I think it works... I mean he invented this damn sub-genre, who has the position to say he is wrong, its his world.

[R-Complex]

Good points. I believe Romero has confirmed in a few interviews that the Dead films all take place within a 3 year time period. In fact, some claim that Dawn’ is chronologically the prequel to Night’! Perhaps Land’ takes place before Day’; it’s certainly possible to shuffle the films around within a 3 year stretch (though Day’ and Land’ would have to follow the first two).Canned foods have a shelf life of at least two years from the time of packaging but don’t become inedible after that; they simply decrease in quality, color, texture, etc. So eating canned peaches 5 years after the expiration date would be a perfectly fine meal. Actually, canned foods over 100 years old have been found in sunken ships that were perfectly safe! Packaged and dried foods like pastas last up to two years (less if they contain egg) but may last longer depending on additives and packaging. This is all assuming it’s stuff straight off the shelf: freezing, dry freezing, air tight containers, etc., would prolong the life even longer. I know, I know….. it’s more info. than anyone needs! I throw it out there for those preparing for the zombie apocalypse……

***MINOR SPOILERS***
I would have liked to see a reference to crops or something along those lines but, it's not necessary. Remember, this is a small self contained community that has survived (relatively) well by adventuring out into the big bad world and looting what they can accumulate. Not only is this enough to sustain them, but it also emphasizes the fact that they are no longer producers, but strictly a consumerist society. I'm not sure if Romero was making a pointed comment about the U.S. and it's decreasing relevance in producing goods and it's emphasis on outsourcing, but if the shoe fits....... The marked status between the dead and the living is a theme Romero has explored in each film with an increasing awareness that they are not only like us, they are us; the living have become just as stupid, uncooperative, violent, and voracious as the cannibalistic dead.

As for the $$$: How is this setup any different from Roger and Steven looting the bank in Dawn'? Society is gone, money and materialistic greed has no relevance yet all of the protagonists get caught up in their desire for the irrelevant. True, Dawn' takes place as the End is beginning and the survivors may think that all will be set right eventually; but Land' occurs with a similar mindset: civilization is back to normal, as normal as it ever will be after the End. That's the point of a currency system still being in place; the demarcation between the bourgeois plutocrats and the proletariat is sharply divided by something as trivial and pointless as $$$! Land' describes a society clinging to the remnants of it's capitalistic past when any pretense of preserving a laissez-faire economic system is no longer relevant.

[jackskellington]

Way too much worrying here about "why this" and "what about that" kind of stuff. It's a movie. Let's leave it at that and just be happy we can be entertained for a couple of hours 2 days from now.

[preacher]

wow the tomato rating is up at rottentomatoes and its...33% with 11 reviews in.

meaning its a worse film than fking Herbie?

he he, the way it looks nowim estimating a final figure of around 60%. just about getting to be fresh

[Quinn]

4 really enthusastic reviews at Chud.com here http://chud.com/reviews/3459.
And if you know anything about the site Devin Farci seems to hate everything, so for him to like it is a good sign. They do bring up a good point of whether or not main stream audiences (including reviewers) well be able to detect the layers of parable. I think this is an incredible valid point because audinces today need everything in a movie to literally punch them in the face for it to make sense and often will see the movie instead of reading the book. That is why something like the Rotten Tomatoes review people will give a fluff pic like Herbie or Bewitched a whatever score because it is harmless fun while slagging of Land because it is too much. Ahhhh, I hope this is a success and not a film were a handfull of people will like it because we know the genre a bit more.
Have a good day
Quinn
PS: Regardless the movie will be great and I hope Romero can set back at the end of the day and be proud of what he did.

[goesaround]

Well I'm just basking in the glory. We've all been waiting for. I'm just glad that NOBODY is calling it a disaster or a complete disapointment! I could start from there. I'm sure it could never live up to my expectations but to see a new Romero zombie movie in the movie theatre is in all truth a gift from the Creator and I mean both the mortal and the other. . The good aspect of America keeps rolling on. My sympathy to my brothers and sisters in Australia, Ireland, England and the rest of the world. It'll come before you know it. Hey we havent seen 'Undead' yet here!

[nirvroxx]

im so frikin excited...im gonna get to watch it thursday night...a couple local theaters here are gonna have 12:01 am showings and me and zk are there!...cant wait...cant sleep...too excited...

[corgi37]

Money being important is still iffy to me, but i guess it can make sense. What else have people got to trade? In all society, there has to be a currency. Whether its chickens, goats, daughters, shells or *****.

Still cant get my head around it, but its only a minor thing. I think perhaps as its such a small outpost, built by a rich guy who only knows money, it might sense. But, i would really like a scene explaining why money is suddenly valuable again.

[goesaround]

http://chud.com/reviews/3459 Wow the four reviews were fabulous. Hardly any spoilers but the best reviews by bright people so far. Makes me very,very glad.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Great to hear some positive feedback about the movie for a change.

Less than two days to go now! :evil:

[preacher]

i only hope that the "rich" in these ivory towers are just simply the most vicious or smartest people who have survived.

people who, when the epidemic started, instead of running for their lives etc, simply hoarded all the resouces for themselves through either strong arm tactics or through their wits

then Dennis Hopper called all these people with their resources together to build this city, and as they control the use of these resources Hopper and these guys naturally formed a new ruling/upper class


i hope its explained something like this, because once civilisation breaks down money would mean nothing

and the only way guys could become the upper class is by having something the ordinary survivors dont i.e. food, maybe control of the electricity in the town etc

[Bad Zombie Night]

A couple of good reviews from MoviesOnline.ca

Land of the Dead Exclusive Review (http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_4551.html)

Land of the Dead Hakeems Exclusive Review (http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_4553.html)

[Airborne]

Well, even though I couldn't go, the local news station had a bit about the LOTD preview held last night (Weds) in downtown Pittsburgh. Quinton Tarentino was there as well as "Big Daddy" himself and GAR. Many fans were there in zombie makeup. Looked like fun.

Did anybody here attend???

[Quinn]

Moviesonline.ca has Burgh premier coverage along with a gallery here http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_4564.html. Thrill at the really tall height of ROMERO! Gasp at the poor young man who is losing his fight with a hair zombie despite his attempts to look cool (by hair zombie I dont mean an actual person)! Sh sh Shutter at how oddly Simon Pegg looks like the guy who plays Luke from Star Wars! Puzzle at the wonders of the guy who mistook the premier for an Insane Clown Posse concert but still wound up with a cute girl! Anyways it looks good I will see it blah blah you have heard this enough from me.
Have a good day
Quinn
PS: If I was Romero I would hold my arms out and spin around like a top and procede to try and wallop people in the face (because of the height :)) and see how devoted my fans are. But then again I might be a right bastard.

[MonsterHunter]

A couple of good reviews from MoviesOnline.ca

Land of the Dead Exclusive Review (http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_4551.html)

Land of the Dead Hakeems Exclusive Review (http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_4553.html)

Great reviews! Great that hopper is not overacting like bad guys from Day!!!!
I cant wait to see this movie now!

[zombiekilling101]

im so frikin excited...im gonna get to watch it thursday night...a couple local theaters here are gonna have 12:01 am showings and me and zk are there!...cant wait...cant sleep...too excited...

wohoooooo man! tongiht! cant freakin wait

[SGT. DEATH]

If I had seen this coming I would have book a holiday in the states.Good luck I hope its all we expect and hope for.Ill wait up for your review. :cry: :drinking:

[Coldshot]

i am bought some zombie make up yesterday and tore up some old clothes. me and my friend are going tommorow at like 8 oclock in zombie makeup.

[zombiekilling101]

i am bought some zombie make up yesterday and tore up some old clothes. me and my friend are going tommorow at like 8 oclock in zombie makeup.

kick ass dude, have fun

[Bad Zombie Night]

Here's a shot from the Pittsburg Premiere that Quinn posted a link to.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/ATZ%20Pics/IMG_4202.jpg

[yates34]

Midnight show tonight in Corona Ca. I can't wait!!!

[Kemper]

Roger Ebert gives it a thumbs up

[zombiekilling101]

Midnight show tonight in Corona Ca. I can't wait!!!

kick ass man.. hey were neighbors. i live in chino

[Bad Zombie Night]

Roger Ebert gives it a thumbs up

Really? Where did you see this?
Gotta link?

[Bad Zombie Night]

New clip of the movie posted at Moviefone... Clip No.3 (http://movies.channel.aol.com/movie/main.adp?mid=20051)

[JFAK075]

Hey all,
I've been waiting to see this movie, like all of you, for awhile now. So, I'm all set to see it on Friday (I get out of work at 3PM) and it turns out they have have LOTD playing in one theater with three showings all day! And it's the worst theater in about a 50 mile radius. I mean, I guess my point is, how can a movie do good if it's playing such a limited number of places and times? Just pisses me off- sorry about the rant.
-John

[Bad Zombie Night]

Hey all,
I've been waiting to see this movie, like all of you, for awhile now. So, I'm all set to see it on Friday (I get out of work at 3PM) and it turns out they have have LOTD playing in one theater with three showings all day! And it's the worst theater in about a 50 mile radius. I mean, I guess my point is, how can a movie do good if it's playing such a limited number of places and times? Just pisses me off- sorry about the rant.
-John
Land of the Dead is not going to be a wide release... When Land debuts tomorrow, it will show at 2,249 theaters, as compared to Star Wars: Episode III, which it's widest release was 3,663.

Just to note.... Star Wars: Episode III has been running for 5 weeks now, and it's still showing at 2,923 nationwide.

[Kemper]

this movie is being handled poorly and with disrespect IMO. You would think such a money making medium would be treated better.

[Bad Zombie Night]

this movie is being handled poorly and with disrespect IMO. You would think such a money making medium would be treated better.
You'll get no argument from me Kemp... GAR had to fight for every inch to get this project going, and then they tried to screw him on the budget to. Dawn of the Dead 2004's opening theater count was 2,745.... That's 496 theaters more than what Land was given to work with!

[SGT. DEATH]

Hey all,
I've been waiting to see this movie, like all of you, for awhile now. So, I'm all set to see it on Friday (I get out of work at 3PM) and it turns out they have have LOTD playing in one theater with three showings all day! And it's the worst theater in about a 50 mile radius. I mean, I guess my point is, how can a movie do good if it's playing such a limited number of places and times? Just pisses me off- sorry about the rant.
-John
Well Undead didnt even show in Ireland,and only 3 shows throughout the UK but its still a great show if you hsvent seen it.Land has its history to back it up and it a follow up to the greatest zombie movies ever with a huge fan base and following. :drinking:

[InfectedZero]

Well I just came back from the theater and pre-bought my tickets. I cannot wait till tonight, its going to be so ****ing awesome.
http://x4.putfile.com/6/17317270641.jpg

[SGT. DEATH]

Well I just came back from the theater and pre-bought my tickets. I cannot wait till tonight, its going to be so ****ing awesome.
http://x4.putfile.com/6/17317270641.jpg
That gives me chills I cant F@cking wait either. :drinking:

[Bad Zombie Night]

I'm gonna go look at the newspapers now, to check the theater schedules. :evil:

[Pain]

That gives me chills I cant F@cking wait either. :drinking:

I know what you mean Sgt! I won't believe it til i see it! :)

[goesaround]

Any good zombie movies coming out? I was just in New York City and I only saw ONE ad for the movie and that was a billboard on a construction site! But I dont think it will matter. From the sheer amount of good reviews and the few similar small complaints I think truly this is really going to be awesome! Gee is any of you going?

[nirvroxx]

im going tonight! woohoo! :drinking:

[SGT. DEATH]

im going tonight! woohoo! :drinking:
:cry: :cry: :cry:

[Bad Zombie Night]

I think I'm gonna aim for the matinee on Saturday before work.

[Morto-Vivo]

ARGH!!!!11!1!11one
I have to wait a few months to see the movie.. :|
Living in portugal sucks! eheh :)

[Coldshot]

im seriously so f*ckin exited. im like hoping around like crazy. i cant wait. god damn its so ****ing exiting. wooooo hoooo

[InfectedZero]

**** YEAH MAN!! Im so stoked for this, I woke up today with a huge ass smile. Its going to own.

[tarman]

24 hours and i'll be seeing land of the dead wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :clap:

[Slumlord]

Took a half-day off tomorrow so I can watch the first viewing. I hope the movie police are there because the first person to whip open a cell phone is gonna get sucker punched!

Movie police were on the scene for Boogeyman and I'll tell you what, that was the quietest theater viewing I've been to in a while.

[nirvroxx]

4 1/2 hours to go!...sorry sgt...and everyone else that wont get to see it for a couple of months... :-(
I also took a half day tommorow to watch the earliest showing!

ZK just called me and sounded like a kid in a candy store :lol: ...i feel the same way...YAY!! :)

[Shotgun]

Meeting some members of my hearse club to see it tomorrow night, going to try and have a row of hearses just to set the mood.

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[Emper0r]

New York times loved it
Los Angeles Times loved it
Chicago tribune liked it
Newsday liked it

With critics that prestigous raving about Land of the Dead, I can safely say my fears have diminished. I CANNOT WAIT TIL TOMORROW NIGHT!

[corgi37]

In the Pittsburgh premiere photos, is that Asia Argento on the 2nd last page? I am so excited for you Yanks. I feel a little left out, but i havent got long to wait. Looking forward to all ya reviews.

[KBHFiend]

Anyone in Orange county wanna go see this tomorrow during the day? I can't go at night cuz I gotta play a show but I need to see it right away.

[Zombie Mark]

Just found out tonight that my friend's wife has to work Saturday, so now they're not coming to see the movie with my wife and I until Saturday night. Damn, I really wanted to go tomorrow, but will have to be loyal to my friend and just sweat it out another day. Probably will be better seeing it with friends than going by myself.

[Bastard Turtle]

I just got back from the theater.

My best friend works there, and they had a preview showing tonight. Well...I think that it was terrific, I didn't get the full effect of it, mainly because my friend and his coworkers were talking the whole damned time. But, needless to say, it was a very great piece of work.

Mr. Romero, I do applaud you.

[Emper0r]

70% On Rotten Tomatoes, that's great for a horror flick! *Does victory dance*

[SGT. DEATH]

May be we some one should do a poll on the film just to give the rest of us a bit of an idea what you think of it. :drinking:

[elaire26]

Hi All,

Just got back from the LotD premiere in San Antonio, Texas featuring Big Daddy in appearance.

First and foremost, Mr. Clark is AWESOME!! He was very nice and quite approachable. He was with George A. Romero's personal assistant, Chris. Chris told me that all the big reviews of the movie were fantastic. He said that Variety and other top review rags really applauded the film. And they were right. As not to give anything away, George Romero has done it again!! He has put the zombie world on it's head and truly revitalized and dare I say, reinvented, the genre. FAntastic acting. Great stars. And may I say, lots of Romero gore! There is a feast to end all feasts in this movie, and lots of people being eaten througout. Greg Nicotero is the new Savini!

I think the San Antonio people missed out on the gravity of having Mr. Clark in attendance. I think it was lost on many, which is too bad, as I know a lot of ya'll would give anything to meet him. Many people asked about the other actors, which isn't necessarily the best in manners. He didn't do a Q and A for very long, as the movie started and ended very late. I got a signed autographed picture of him! wooohooo!!! He was very sociable and we talked with each other for a bit as I sat next to him and sold some of my books.

He made mention that the DVD release (for America/World?) will be in October, and said that the DVD will include many things you didn't see in the movie. When I asked him about what they used to create the gore, he said Greg would kill him if he told me.

And get this... he sings!! He has a CD out and was selling it there... very Barry White Love Songs kind of things....

I'll be able to see him again tomorrow, as we will be doing autographs and my book signing again tomorrow in San Antonio. I'll have to think of some good questions? Anyone?

Anyway, Just thought I'd share my experience with ya'll.. Everyone NEEDS to see this movie!! If it is Romero's last (and it looks like it might not be), it is a Magnum Opus!

Sincerlely,

Bowie V. Ibarra

[Cyber Bishop]

New York times loved it
Los Angeles Times loved it
Chicago tribune liked it
Newsday liked it

With critics that prestigous raving about Land of the Dead, I can safely say my fears have diminished. I CANNOT WAIT TIL TOMORROW NIGHT!

Oh oh.. When the critics like it that means it is bad.... :lol:

Seriously I can't wait till I get off of work to see it today!!

[Moonbutterfly7]

Everyone who worked on "Risen" are planning to meet up. Still not sure on the time maybe around 9:30 or midnight. They need to hurry up and make up their minds because I need to pick up tickets! They better give me an answer by 12:00 because that's when I plan to get them.

I want to wear my zombie make up. But I don't know that might consider too dorky. My sister is like "If you do that I'm not going with you!" That bitch owes me I dressed up as a freaking scary spice when the spice girls movie came out. She ****ing owes me!

I am so excited, I've heard a lot of good reviews, but they are people out there who has given it crap. But a lot of those people don't understand horror movies or zombie movies in the first place.

[jackskellington]

Took a half-day off tomorrow so I can watch the first viewing. I hope the movie police are there because the first person to whip open a cell phone is gonna get sucker punched!

Movie police were on the scene for Boogeyman and I'll tell you what, that was the quietest theater viewing I've been to in a while.

I'm with you on that!! When my wife and I went to see The Grudge there was a group of about 20 to 30 high school kids in the theater making all sorts of racket until finally all of us adults began shouting at them until the management had to stop the reels during the previews at which time they came into the auditorium and ordered every one of those little bastards to leave. Everyone remaining stood and applauded as they walked out with their heads down. It was one of the greatest movie going experiences of my life and it will play that way again tonight if I have anything to do with it! As for the movie time, my theaters website is down this morning so I can't see what time I need to be there. I'm working 6 to 6 but if there is a 7:00 show, then I'm gonna need to leave work a little early. Can't do the later show 'cause I didn't get much sleep last night and need to catch up since I've gotta work again tomorrow morning. Can't believe it's finally here!!!!

[SGT. DEATH]

Everyone who worked on "Risen" are planning to meet up. Still not sure on the time maybe around 9:30 or midnight. They need to hurry up and make up their minds because I need to pick up tickets! They better give me an answer by 12:00 because that's when I plan to get them.

I want to wear my zombie make up. But I don't know that might consider too dorky. My sister is like "If you do that I'm not going with you!" That bitch owes me I dressed up as a freaking scary spice when the spice girls movie came out. She ****ing owes me!

I am so excited, I've heard a lot of good reviews, but they are people out there who has given it crap. But a lot of those people don't understand horror movies or zombie movies in the first place.
I dont think its dorky at all,in fact you might scare the sh@t out of some poor fool which would be really cool.When is risen available and from where it looked very good.Go with the make up you might get a part in the next film in the dead series. :drinking:

[Shredmonkey]

Just trawling the net for Land Of The Dead info and it's getting confusing. SOme places are still listing it as August 5th and others as Sept 9th. Cineworlds website also has it down as a certificate 15. Now I know our censors have relaxed a lot (Tobe Hoopers Toolbox murders got a 15 and that had some bloke having the top of his head sawn off) but a 15?!?!?!?

And for all the US guys. Enjoy the film :)

Edit: Just checked the BBFC's website. The film is definitly a 15 and was passed with no cuts. WTF?

[Some_Day...]

I am soooooo sexcited!!!! I'm gonna fly over to America when I finish work to catch it!!! Wohoo!!!

[Shredmonkey]

I am soooooo sexcited!!!! I'm gonna fly over to America when I finish work to catch it!!! Wohoo!!!


I'm starting to think I may have to do the same thing. Couple of days in NY sounds kind of nice anyway.

[Some_Day...]

I wish I really was but the fact is I'm gonna have to wait till it get's released here! :cry:

[Bad Zombie Night]

I am soooooo sexcited!!!! I'm gonna fly over to America when I finish work to catch it!!! Wohoo!!!

Hmmmmm...... I'll meet you at the airport here in NY with two tickets in hand. :mrgreen:

[Amylynnbest]

I saw it wednesday at the Pittsburgh Premier. It was fantastic!

[Bad Zombie Night]

I called the theater, and I not sure if there's a 10:20am showing (no answer)... It might be a misprint, so I'm gonna implement plan "B" and shoot for the 12:35pm showing instead.

[Zombie Survivor]

You guys are so lucky. :) I have to wait until August (I think, need to check that) :cry:

[Vash]

2 hours 44 minutes to go

[nirvroxx]

what a grreeat movie! hooray for LOTD! :drinking:

[Rookie]

8 more hours for me..

[zombiekilling101]

when u guys see it, start posting about it in the instant classic thread i made, man i cant wait until we can all discuss about it!

[SGT. DEATH]

when u guys see it, start posting about it in the instant classic thread i made, man i cant wait until we can all discuss about it!
It will be about 3 month before the rest of us can discuss it here in europe.

[MonsterHunter]

It will be about 3 month before the rest of us can discuss it here in europe.

A damn shame! At least we got to see Undead long time before the Americans!

:clap:

[Officer_Jerry2]

like i said on other thread. A critic on the offical website who previwed the movie said their is a hot lesbo scene. is that true?

[Officer_Jerry2]

Like i have posted. I was reading in a critics review their is a hot lesbo scene in the movie? is this true or no?

[preacher]

what......the......****?

[SGT. DEATH]

like i said on other thread. A critic on the offical website who previwed the movie said their is a hot lesbo scene. is that true?
I hope so.

[Officer_Jerry2]

I know my friend aaron was the one who sent it to me in an email and i checked it out

[SGT. DEATH]

Sex is the only thing lacking in a GAR movie.Maybe he will make up for it with this movie. :drool:

[Officer_Jerry2]

But does anybody really know if its true?

[Officer_Jerry2]

i should see it tommoro hopefully

[Mervin Chip Chipperson]

There is a shot of two girls kissing but its only for a couple seconds ......


spoiler


before they get eatin

[Officer_Jerry2]

oh okay thanks for answering my question.

[FroDish]

Yeah, there was like a two second lesbian scene. And I doubt you'd consider it "hot".

[preacher]

its a 15 certificate when it comes out in the uk!

15!

that either means its not very gory or nowadays youve got to show some really fked up shit to get an 18

our version is also 92 minutes 58 seconds long

which is 2 seconds shorter than Shrek

[Mervin Chip Chipperson]

I thought it was kind of weird actually, it sort of felt thrown in there, but who am I to question Romero's vision.

[Ravenheart]

I got back from seeing it about half an hour ago.It wasn't bad and maybe it was just me but it didn't feel like a Romero movie.The gore was pretty good and if it was cut for the theatrical release,I wonder what will be put back in if they do an unrated version?The characters I found for the most part,quite likeable.The only one I didn't really like was Hopper's character but I think thats pretty much how you were supposed to feel about him.After seeing this,I now rank Romero's dead movies as such.

Night
Dawn
Land
Day

As for the people asking about the lesbo scene,there is one in the movie that lasts about 5 seconds LOL

[ZombieMannXIII]

Just bought some face paint and blood, i'll be seeing it tonight. Hope it is good

[goesaround]

Three hours to go. I went to buy a ticket at the movie thertre here in Kingston New York because the usher said the night shows will be sold out. I walked into the matinee and watched for 5 minutes VERY POLITICAL. A great feeling of closed in. I love that in his movies..Cant wait!! Hang in friends across the sea and sand..My opinion soon

[Sadogoat]

its a 15 certificate when it comes out in the uk!

15!

that either means its not very gory or nowadays youve got to show some really fked up shit to get an 18

our version is also 92 minutes 58 seconds long

which is 2 seconds shorter than Shrek

Wow....just checked the BBFC site myself and was surprised to see you're right. No cuts made either. Considering this is the same institution that banned alot of zombie flicks back in the Eighties (and made heavy cuts to Dawn and Day), to see them give Land a mere 15 just shows how much their attitudes have changed over the years...

[davethevoice]

The Oakland Tribune Hear in oakland Calif paned it though
but then again what do most news paper critics know.
I am going to make the trek to the nearest theater as soon as
i get my check again. but to tell you guys the truth I would
trust you guys alot more then the one for the one in the local
paper.

Dave Corson

[kingroy666]

Yeah, there was like a two second lesbian scene. And I doubt you'd consider it "hot".

It was HOT !!! Not the lesbian kissing, but when the one got pulled out by a zombie from behind :)

[Ravenheart]

One of the local reviewers here in one of the Toronto papers gave it 3 out of 5 stars.I was suprised because he usually rips apart horror movies.

[Bad Zombie Night]

like i said on other thread. A critic on the offical website who previwed the movie said their is a hot lesbo scene. is that true?
Yes it's true, but it's not nearly as spicy as you're imagining. :roll:

[Kemper]

This is a fun fun movie...i had a great time...i wish it was longer so i could get to know theses people. It's weird because it seems to be made for a sequal but it isn't being marketed or put in enough theaters to do so i fear.

Cherish this movie folks.

[MasterOfPuppets]

This movie for me was great! Ive been a big fan of night,dawn and day for quite a while now but i wasnt even born when day came out so i never got the chance to see GAR do what he does best on the big screen. I dont know about everyone else, but for me, this movie felt like a Romero movie. I was excited for pretty much the whole day. I got there like a half an our early and me and my g/f were the only two people there in the whole theatre. It was pretty funny because as we were entering the main lobby of the theatre, a group of people were getting out of the early show ahead of us and some women had puked all over her pants. My friend who works there said that 9 or 10 people had walked out of the theatre because they couldnt handle it i guess. Anyways, the theatre filled up really fast after we go there, it was packed. I was so excited to see this movie in theatre and when lights dimmed and the movie started, i was glued to the screen. I dont know what it was but through the whole movie, things like camera shots and the effects really reminded me of GAR's work. Now i know im only 17 and my opinion probably doesnt matter that much, but i really thought this movie was great. Romeros flim making really moved along with the times and of course, George had the satire. The major thing for me was that when i stumbled across George Romeros dead movies, I really got into them and tried to understand as much as i could (being like 9/10, i was like "wtf is satire?"). They were awesome movies but GAR was getting old and i didnt think id ever get too see his work on the big screen but lone behold, it came today and i was honestly, the happiest ive been in a while walking away from the theatre.Best money ive spent in a while and an excellent movie!

[Tempest]

this is deffenitally one of the best zombie movies I have ever seen (and dare I say the best one of the dead series? atleast in my opinion it is) I especially love the idead that the zombies are learning, and is funny kind of because I had a theory that was identical to what George did in this movie years before it came out, pluss I love the intelegence that the big daddy zombie had but why was a gas atendant the one that was the uber intelegent zombie capible of teaching all the others how to do things is beyound me but I really liked it. on the same note I loved how most of the zombies have gained personalities. but as mentioned before I to felt that it didn't have GAR feel to it like Day Dawn and Night did, but that did not stop it or even hinder it from being one of the best ever. and on a side note i was the first persone to have baught a ticket to it in my area (this is easily capible of being known since the theater I went and saw it in was the only one showing it in my area and i was the first to get the ticket there) so I am extreemly happy!!!

[Coldshot]

just got back and got my zombie makeup off. the zombie makeup me and my friend did looked so cool. the movie was soooooooooo awesome. oh my god was it good. i loved every gorey second of it. Georg A. Romero has not lost his touch. the man is complete genious. im going back to see it again tommorrow with my dad. god this movie is a must see. there is not one thing about this movie i didnt like. you usually find a few things like why didnt they do that or why didnt they do this. but i loved every ****ing second of it. god was it a perfect movie. ill post pics of me and my friend tommorow.

[goesaround]

I'm back and I am depressed as hell. Damn it I am sad. Romero movies never had those cute little jokes that every other movie has.They do now This was a series of sequences. Asia was there just as Asia Argento, Lugizzamo was playing Luguziamo and the hero was the same hero as Dawn of the Dead remake(No not really). The zombies roaring and communicating. I dont know they stopped being the undead and I had to remind myself that they were. The people about to be attacked. They seemed like they were going to be late for work upset. Damn I hate that I am writing this. Yes there was alot to love. Yes there were times Romero 's genius shined through. I even shouted in panic. But this didnt have any of the Spiritual fear the others had and their was no science discussion to make you think. I feel I am going to love the sequel and this will grow on me but I am depressed

[Rookie]

You want to live in the past go watch dawn 78 a million times, Land was good, damn good.

[corgi37]

Your expectations were too high. I had the same feeling when i saw the Stones for the 1st time, after waiting 22 years for them to return to Oz.

Then, about 3-4 days later, the shock wore off and i realised i had just witnessed the greatest thing in my life.

Same feeling when i bonked an ex girlfriend after 20 years. Then, couple of days later i thought "that was the best..."


More reviews!!! I want scene by bloody scene! Was the opening good? the zombie wedding. What about gore? More descriptions people.

[Rookie]

Go read the review thread then?

[Shotgun]

Ok, just got home from seeing it and........ I really liked it. I was afraid that it would be ruined by thinking zombies, but it wasn't. They weren't really that "smart", more like animals. Sure some used weapons but not in an intelligent manner.
The movie was a bit short though, an extra 30 minutes wouldn't have hurt.
And as for Hopper, he did alright. He was another worry of mine for this movie.
Now about that bit of comedy in the beggining.... well just laugh and move on.

I really want Dead reckoning! That thing rules!

[Rookie]

Why dont you guys post your reviews in the...

LAND OF THE DEAD REVIEW THREAD? :)

[Emper0r]

Well since I can't find the Land of the Dead review thread, I'm gonna post my review here.

This movie has made me the happiest man in the world. Romero has done a fantastic job and it was well worth the wait. Even the acting surprised me, I honestly expected it to be pretty bad but it wasn't bad at all. The setting was fantastic, the story was great, the ideas in it were good. Also, what's all this crap about the comedy at the beginning? I don't know about you guys, but that zombie band was one of the creepiest and weirdest things I've ever seen, it's definetly gonna stick in my mind for weeks to come.

If I had to choose one thing that bothered me, it would have to be the growling and howls of big daddy when he saw his fellow zombies being tortured. Something about a zombie having remorse for other zombies kinda bothered me, I'm sorry.

But here's the coolest part of it all, at the end of the movie two guys dressed up as zombies(REALLY real looking ones too) came into the theatre and did zombie walks and walked around looking at us all, so cool.

1 being the worst 10 being the best I'd have to give Land of the Dead a 9. I can't wait for the next one :)

[guerrilla]

ok to begin with, i haven't posted on these forums for a long time, several months. its not because my love for the genre or horror in general went away, i just lost interest in the board is all. well of course i had a big reason to come back, LOTD. last time i was on these forums before yesterday LOTDs release date was still october of this year. so just a couple weeks ago i was shocked to see it was coming out in June. it was a very good surprise, knowing that the movie i've been waiting years to see was pushed up 4 months.

well anyway, i went tonight and it was beautiful. i disagree with people saying the film wasn't Romero. i think it was so Romero. no zombie films (short of Shaun) have the style that GAR puts in his films. they are corpses, gore, and a series of situations where people die. they don't have the atmosphere GAR has. you also have the awesome political commentary. watching the rich and powerful run around in panic and being eaten was remarkable. and Asia Argento...*sigh*. if there's a god, that's her name. anyway, i won't say its better than DOTD, i'm not sure if a horror movie can be, but i will say it is nearly as good, if not DOTDs equal.

on a side note, i like how GARs zombie films are always different. most zombie films have the outbreak, and survivors trying to stay that way. they don't have all the added substance GARs films have. i like how the substance is different in each film. in the first film, the only goal was survival. in the second, it focused on routine daily life in a world gone mad. in the 3rd it focused on the science and the power hungry feuding, 2 separate causes trying to coexist, and in this film its about rebuilding from the perspective of a class war. same ideas, completely different subtext and point of views. zombie films done like no other. GAR this beer is for you :drinking:

[Francesco Dellamorte]

Here's a link to my review:

http://www.revenantmag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=214


-FD

[Moonbutterfly7]

Just got back from seeing Land and it rocked!

Romero really out did himself on this one. There were some parts that could of been written better. But others were really great and man I felt so much for the zombies.

Haha oh my god they had musican zombies trying to play instruments I totally lol at that. I didn't see Simon Pegg and the director of Shaun in there though. I tried looking so hard for them but I didn't see them. They were the "phone both" zombies, but I didn't see them anywhere. I saw Tom Savini and he rocked. Big Daddy was a very compelling character. I felt for him on so many levels. I didn't think the zombies were so smart that it it defeats the whole purpose of being a zombie. They were still very much zombies, althought there were times I thought they were a little too smart. But overall I thought they were great. I thought the acting was really top-notch which made the movies much more enjoyable. They conveyed more emotion than the other actors he has used. I mean don't get me wrong. I love some of the dead series actors, but some of them aren't that good.

I really loved how Fiddler's Green was the eptomie of everything in our world we take for granted. I thought it was really funny how they seem to go on with their lives while the rest of the world was rotting away.

Overall I would give this a 7.5 on a 1-10 scale.

It was better than day, not sure if it was as good as Dawn and Night though. I was so excited that for the first time I would actually see one of his dead movies in a theater and not on a video.

I'm so glad the King of zombie movies has returned. :D

[zombiekilling101]

lol at that. I didn't see Simon Pegg and the director of Shaun in there though. I tried looking so hard for them but I didn't see them. They were the "phone both" zombies, but I didn't see them anywhere. I

not phone booth, photo booth, if you didnt know they were going to be in there, u wouldnt have noticed, there makeup didnt really show off who there were at all.

[Meli]

Well I haven't read the above posts and I am not going to either because I am too damn lazy.
I went to the 9:30pm showing of Land of the Dead and I dragged my husband along.:mrgreen:

It was a pretty good movie. It made me jump a lot and some parts scared the shit out of me. The only thing is that the black zombie got on my ****ing nerves!!! The whole screaming was ANNOYING! I wish somebody would have blown his ****ing brains out!!! That is all! Goodnight! :mrgreen:

[goesaround]

You want to live in the past go watch dawn 78 a million times, Land was good, damn good.
When your no longer a "Rookie" I'll take your review and your advice more seriously. Gorgi you are right as usual. I tried to keep my expectations low but I didn't succeed. I know I'll come to love it and already I'm feeling better. But I do feel he is more into politics now then he's into zombies that's just the way that is. The zombies have also gotten a lot stronger beside smarter, I just dont like they are his heroes now, the blue collar man is the zombie cool but....One thing the surprise zombie attacks are great and made me shout out loud and I feel strongly the sequel will be excellent it has all the elements.

[Moonbutterfly7]

not phone booth, photo booth, if you didnt know they were going to be in there, u wouldnt have noticed, there makeup didnt really show off who there were at all.


Those f@ckers I was looking for the wrong thing they were in lol. SOmeone was like "They were in the phone booth" I knew they were in the movie I just didn't know what scene exactly. I'll go look for them again when I go see it with my sister.

I thought it could of been longer too, maybe the unrated version dvd will provide us with some goodies we missed.

[guerrilla]

Those f@ckers I was looking for the wrong thing they were in lol. I knew they were in the movie I just didn't know what scene exactly. I'll go look for them again when I go see it with my sister.

they were chained up with a girl posing in front of them for a picture. i think it was at the bar but i could be wrong

[Francesco Dellamorte]

When your no longer a "Rookie" I'll take your review and your advice more seriously. Gorgi you are right as usual. I tried to keep my expectations low but I didn't succeed. I know I'll come to love it and already I'm feeling better. But I do feel he is more into politics now then he's into zombies that's just the way that is. The zombies have also gotten a lot stronger beside smarter, I just dont like they are his heroes now, the blue collar man is the zombie cool but....One thing the surprise zombie attacks are great and made me shout out loud and I feel strongly the sequel will be excellent it has all the elements.


I don't think that's really true. Romero has always made a point of intertwining political and social commentary. That's why his movies are so genius, because he manages to make a statement as well as a horror movie and marry the two so well. "The blue collar man is the zombie now", I don't understand your point here, when I saw the movie, just about everyone was a zombie. I do sort of understand where your coming from, there is however some social commentary behind that, the wealthy live in a plush skyscraper oblivious to the world outside. In my opinion this is a sort of stab at the current presidential administration and how it doesn't address the problems within our own country. It also suggests the slanted, pro-rich tax break systems in our country.

I thought the whole zombie evolution was the most intriguing part of the movie. It was a giant wrench in the gears and a welcomed addition. It says a lot about Romero's beliefs about human nature and philosophy. Wouldn't it be boring if we just got the same old rehashed zombie movie time and time again? I thought it was brilliant and well executed some parts could have had more to them but I could say that about any film really.

-FD

[tarman]

land of the dead is absolutely amazing!!! this is damn close to being the best of the series. i went in halfway expecting that this movie was going to suck just because i've been hyping it up so much. but! the cast was incredible, the characters were extremely well written, the atmosphere was absorbing, and the gore was creative and nasty. john leguizamo is the man.

rich people being eaten alive by ravenous zombies is extremely rewarding! :clap:

[Moonbutterfly7]

they were chained up with a girl posing in front of them for a picture. i think it was at the bar but i could be wrong


Now I remember! Hah I did think those zombies look somewhat familar, but I was too in shock and horrifed at how they had zombies as subjects of games and entertainment.

Now I'm going to watch extra carefully again.

[corgi37]

Guys, dont take the political aspects too much to heart. Every film in the zombie genre GAR has done has a politictal aspect. I'm sure some "Good ol' boys" back in in 68 were not too happy with a black man being the strong hero.

I'm sure the military wasnt too impressed with Day! In fact, there's a real jerk on imdb who is so pro military (well he would be, he's been in the army 20 years), he has actually pointed out that Rhodes and crew shouldnt be in the position of power they were in, and the military wouldnt collapse because of discipline and blah blah blah. Hell, even the soldiers group insignia badges were wrong!

My point is: Its 20 years since a GAR zombie movie. The politics of the film are now. The mood of America, and many Americans for that matter, has changed dramatically in the past few years. GAR is reflecting that. So, dont take it to heart. In 2, 3, 10 years, people will see LAND in a entirely different light. Just as we do now with Dawn. I mean, who in 78 knew what a frigging mall was?

Anyone who thinks the meek will inherit the Earth, is mad. Its the dudes with the guns and the means to get people on their side who will always be living in the Fiddlers Greens of the world, whether we like it or not.

What GAR proposes is this: On which side of the barricade are you? Do you want to oppose the tyranny? Or, join it?

For whats its worth, i'd wanna join it.

Now, i could be talking through my Aussie ass, as i havent seen it yet, but i am just going by the many reviews and posts i have read. At least one good thing seems to have occurred.

GAR has got alot of people talking! Christ on a stick, i am dying to see it.

[Moonbutterfly7]

I actually really enjoyed the commentary and politics of the film. Although I did think they went a little overboard on somethings. But I totally could relate to everything espeically Cholo. I think all the characters like Ripley, Cholo, Sack, and Charlie were all people you could relate to on one level or another. People who are just trying to survive the corrupt living as they do the undead.

Plus I really love how George made the zombies sympathetic characters. I mean I symphatized with them when they were being attacked in uniontown. I mean who wouldn't want to strike back against the people that want to hurt you? Tired being treated like your some animal, being poked at, made fun of. Hah I know zombies shouldn't really aknowledge those things, but I think even the simplest of creatures can take so much than finally decide to strike back.

Man I really felt for the zombies.They were just trying to live their lives just like us. Like Riley says "They are just looking for some place to go just like us"


Haha I maybe a little senimental, but I just really loved the zombies and didn't neccessairly viewed them as the "true villians" of the movie. Those fat cats in Filddler's Green are the real villians well in my opinion at least.

[jackskellington]

Went to see it last night and I hate to say it, but I was a bit let down. The makeup, acting and even the gore were all there and done very well but, as a few others have pointed out, it just didn't feel like a GAR movie for some reason that I can't really put my finger on. Big Daddy got on my nerves as well...He's made up to look like a monster of some sorts and plus those grunts he made were kind of annoying. Maybe I'm just older now, I don't know. I was only 15 when I saw Day in the theaters and it, along with Night and Dawn, had that empty feeling of hopelessness that really brought the message home to you, you know? But Land had such a secure feeling and what seemed like a rather small group of zombies hunting the survivors that I never once got that sped up heartbeat feeling of anxiousness and desparation for survival that all the others gave me. Alot of the reviews were also promising several, "feasting scenes to end all feasting scenes", but I missed those parts I guess. I just kind of wish I had gone to see it not even knowing it was a Romero movie so that I may have liked it more. My wife had to work last night so she wants to go see it on Monday or Tuesday when we're off together so maybe a second viewing will help me to like it a little better, but I seriously doubt I'm gonna give this one a second viewing.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Went to see it last night and I hate to say it, but I was a bit let down. The makeup, acting and even the gore were all there and done very well but, as a few others have pointed out, it just didn't feel like a GAR movie for some reason that I can't really put my finger on. Big Daddy got on my nerves as well...He's made up to look like a monster of some sorts and plus those grunts he made were kind of annoying. Maybe I'm just older now, I don't know. I was only 15 when I saw Day in the theaters and it, along with Night and Dawn, had that empty feeling of hopelessness that really brought the message home to you, you know? But Land had such a secure feeling and what seemed like a rather small group of zombies hunting the survivors that I never once got that sped up heartbeat feeling of anxiousness and desparation for survival that all the others gave me.


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That's some good insight js, and you're not alone here... I felt the film fell short in some areas, and I also thought that Big Daddy's repeated roars, became overplayed, and annoying as all hell.

[Kemper]

This movie was so above many others...It is tied for the best movie this year

Sorry i'm a star wars geek as well.

People loved it the Hopper scene, had everyone rolling.

[stealth15psi]

This movie was the biggest letdown for me. 100 zombies, a skyscraper, and a semi-truck.....what a friggen joke. Land of the dead my ass, it should have been called City Block of the Dead. The characters didn't even have enough depth to make me care whether they got eaten or not. All I could do is sit there and wish for it to be over. I want my 8 bucks back.

[Airborne]

Plus I really love how George made the zombies sympathetic characters. I mean I symphatized with them when they were being attacked in uniontown. I mean who wouldn't want to strike back against the people that want to hurt you? Tired being treated like your some animal, being poked at, made fun of. Hah I know zombies shouldn't really aknowledge those things, but I think even the simplest of creatures can take so much than finally decide to strike back.

Man I really felt for the zombies.They were just trying to live their lives just like us. Like Riley says "They are just looking for some place to go just like us"


Haha I maybe a little senimental, but I just really loved the zombies and didn't neccessairly viewed them as the "true villians" of the movie. Those fat cats in Filddler's Green are the real villians well in my opinion at least.

Wow, I can't even believe this. Sympathetic to the zombies--who would rip your guts out in a second. Maybe this was why the movie was a letdown--of sorts.

[Meli]

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That's some good insight js, and you're not alone here... I felt the film fell short in some areas, and I also thought that Big Daddy's repeated roars, became overplayed, and annoying as all hell.
Tell me about it, like I said I wish someone would have blown his head off.
And whats with the main zombies "killing" their meals instead of "eating" them?
I thought it was dumb how they let the zombies go because they were just finding a place to go. It's okay for the zombies to rule the world but the humans are in danger if they walk where they are at.

From my understanding, I read on fax news that Romero wants to lead the tales of horror into the direction where zombies and humans will eventually live peacefully together and the zombies will just have to get used to eating something else. :roll:

[Rookie]

Eh? What the do you expect? you do expect the same zombies from night or dawn? This is 30 some years after night, and a few less then dawn. Those zombies are overly done. You don't welcoem something new like them to the genre?


Atleast they dont run..

[elaire26]

Hi Ya'll,


SPOILER ALERT


So, got a chance to hang out with Big Daddy and GAR's personal assistant, Chris, while watching "Land of the Dead" last night twice in San Antonio...

Here's some fun, that some people might already know...

1. Greg Nicotero, master makeup man, is the "draw bridge" zombie... but a bit of trivia... the mechanical head that was cut off by the draw bridge fell into the river and was never seen again... the crew had to call all law enforcement officials about the head and warn them it wasn't real... funny...

2. When Big Daddy auditioned for the part, he was more or less offered it on the spot, but potentially could have lost it as he wanted to go to a golf tourney in California.

3. Big Daddy was his nickname in college, which was also his father's and grandfathers nickname...

4. When asked why he thought his zombie could think, he thought that perhaps his zombie had "mutated" a little further along than the others. He also theorized that when zombies eat meat, they die faster.

5. Big Daddy mentioned that he had to go to "dark places" when finding the motivation for his character. When asked to elucidate, he said he thought about genocide in Rwanda, black slavery rings in Africa, and other global atrocities that go on to this day...

6. When asked about any background research/invention he did for his character, he said that "Big Dadd" was an ex-military man who found a place in Unionville to escape his past exploits in the military. I quiet town where he could get away. Hence, his "pat of the strap" when he shoulders his weapon and leadership ability.

7. In the fantastic "rising" scene from the waters of the three rivers, the female zombie with the cheek missing actually lost both her contacts in one of the takes of the film. Chris said that during one of the shots, as the zombies were required to rise from the water with their eyes open, both of her contacts fell out and drifted into the water and could be seen in the booth. The part wasn't included in the final scene.

8. GAR's personal assistant, Chris, actually participated as a zombie within the first twenty minutes of the film.

Anyway, it was a great time... Big Daddy and Chris were really cool... it was cool to hang out with them as I shared my book, "Down the Road" with people...

But big news for San Antonio Drafthouse WEstlake and surrounding area, the Drafthouse S.A. manager is working on...

A DAY OF THE DEAD 20 ANNIVERSARY REUNION SHOW!!

It's in the works for September with Drafthouse managment attempting to get cast member reunion as well as an appearance by the man, George A. Romero!!!

Keep your eyes out for September in San Antonio...

Sincerely,

Bowie V. Ibarra

[goesaround]

I

I thought the whole zombie evolution was the most intriguing part of the movie. It was a giant wrench in the gears and a welcomed addition. It says a lot about Romero's beliefs about human nature and philosophy. Wouldn't it be boring if we just got the same old rehashed zombie movie time and time again? I thought it was brilliant and well executed some parts could have had more to them but I could say that about any film really.

-FD
I think you miss my point. I love Romero's political perspective,Besides racism in 'Night" and consumerism in 'Dawn', the Reagan military in Day, and I 'SPOILER' loved the gas pump stuck thru the windshield at Kaufman what a comment on Bush and oil. No I love that what I dont like was in the past the political commentary and the horror story was seamless. The story was about the story but they had allegorical implication. Frankly in my heart of hearts after (I mention this on the LOD thread) reading with you all about George WANTING to do Diamond Dead a rock zombie story I now believe he is sick of zombies and sick of being known for them. So he is only using them now for his point. Hell he even says something to the effect 'they just walk through my story'. In the past you felt a Spiritual fear , a terror in your soul and the politics were part of that problem. Not with this this had jokes, lots of typical jokes!!! BUT there were moments when the old george shined through,,When they walked into the factory and every zombie was feeding like in dawn in the basement, the snapping head bite. I screamed but the zombies as good guys.. Hey it's not like they want to live in peace with us...Maybe Big Daddy would turn out to be a Stalin. I just hope George gets a chance to do the sequel and recapyure the heart of Terror in Night of the Living Dead

[Rookie]

Stupid shambling zombies have been done to death, i welcome something new to the genre. Seriously how many movies have the slow stupid shamblers?

it just got old...

[Moonbutterfly7]

Wow, I can't even believe this. Sympathetic to the zombies--who would rip your guts out in a second. Maybe this was why the movie was a letdown--of sorts.

Oh whatever think what you want. I'm not saying they aren't still very dangerous and everything. I'm not saying I would give some zombie a hug. Hah I would have to be really crazy to do that. But I was just simply saying that I can sympathize with them more. Well parts of them at least. Although in real life if this were to happen I don't think I would be eager to go be friends with them. Even in Day you can sympathize with Bub. I don't think that makes them anymore or less frighting I just think that's a different aspect of the character.

I just really like movies that show the creatures that you normally associate being "evil" not necessairly be the true villians of the story.

That's just my opinion.

My sister liked the evolving zombies, but she didn't really like the story line all that much. She felt like it kept going in a circle.

!Spoiler!

Only thing that kind of bothered me was the ending I thought some of the main characters should of died it was a little too happy.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Eh? What the do you expect? you do expect the same zombies from night or dawn? This is 30 some years after night, and a few less then dawn. Those zombies are overly done. You don't welcoem something new like them to the genre?
What do you then propose for the next film? Zombies going back to their old jobs, driving cars, taking yoga classes, and watching Oprah on the tele? Aren't Zombies part of the horror genre, and aren't they supposed to be scary? All except for a few cheap scares, like Zombies coming out from behind something and saying "peek-a-boo," this movie was hardly scary at all.


Atleast they dont run..
To be quite honest, I found Dawn of the Dead 2004 more entertaining, and the Zombies much more threatening, than those in Land.

[jackskellington]

The most terrifying thing about zombies, to me, has always been that they come at you relentlessly by the hundreds and thousands with only one intention which is to devour you and they cannot be reasoned with, but halfway through Land I almost got the feeling that maybe you could talk them out of what they were doing and offer them an acceptable alternative to eating you! For me that takes the horror scale from a 10 to a 1 immediately. Also, what's with Big Daddy's teeth? Do most corpses teeth turn into sharp jagged fangs as they decay? Too monster movie.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Also, what's with Big Daddy's teeth? Do most corpses teeth turn into sharp jagged fangs as they decay? Too monster movie.
Did Big Daddy's scowls, and Howls frighten you at all?

[xeno]

I've read the script and found that the character where well done, but the movie lacked a lot. It was good and I liked it but It could have been done better. I believe they left a few scenes out that will appear in the directors cut of the dvd when it comes out. Charlie's my favorite character. I really wanted to see cholo battle the zombie in the apartment that would be cool. It didn't have that feel to it that lostness of living isolated it a world ruled by the dead. I hope the directors cut is a hell of a lot better that the movie was.

[Detroit Dogg]

Charlie's my favorite character. Yeah I actually kinda felt bad for him..... :cry: ya know in that Forrest Gump kinda way....


~Dre

[Bad Zombie Night]

Yeah I actually kinda felt bad for him..... :cry: ya know in that Forrest Gump kinda way....


~Dre

Yeah, Charlie and Pillsbury were the only two characters I really liked... Sorry, but I didn't feel any love or hate towards Riley, Cholo, Kaufman, or any of the other characters.

[Rookie]

The fact that they were like cancer, that even if you kill twenty another twenty thousand are coming to you is over done... Now the cancer can actully think, don't you think thats more scary?

Eh, I liked dawn 04 to, but Land more.

[tarman]

i can't believe my ears! i find it difficult to think that any of us here would dislike land of the dead so much! and that's not just because its a gar movie. this movie was done so well. i felt the characters had alot of depth to them, especially riley/cholo/charlie. they developed over the coarse of the film. the action/gore/scenery was top-notch. this is 2005, so obviously you are going to see some changes and a different look to a gar zombie flick. he's not trapped in 1978. give it time and you will adjust!

and if you really think about it, the zombies have been semi-intelligent since night. the very first zombie we see figures out that a brick can break the window to barbara's car. in dawn, when flyboy is zombified, he remembers where their secret wall is, and he also communicates with the other zombies to tell them to follow him much like big daddy. the whole basis of dawn of the dead was to focus on the fact that zombies remembered what the did when they were alive. in day, there's bub. the zombies have always been semi-intelligent. in land, big daddy happens to be smarter then bub, and it happens to be a central theme of the movie, as hinted only slightly in day. and remember, bub getting extremely pissed off and sad when frankenstein died i.e. big daddy when his comrades are downed?? think about it and you'll see the continuity throughout the whole dead quadrilogy.

and gar's patented social commentary was ever present in land of the dead. and this time, he made no bones about what he was commenting on.

dennis hopper rules.

[Moonbutterfly7]

I would have to say Charlie would be one of my favorites. He was such a funny and endearing character. I like Cholo, Riley, and Slack attitudes although I thought they were a bit too rough. But Charlie had a heart and was good friend its nice to see a character that can be tough but has heart underneath all that.

I can't believe nobody mentioned the small guy from the Ghoulies? He was the little man in the cowboy hat that Riley was roughing up. I haven't seen anybody post that I have to look back now>. When I saw him I was like "Hey its the dude from the Ghoulies!"

[Ellis]

Wow, what can I praise about this movie that hasn't already been said? Rookie is right, this is the future and I am treating it like one of those movies. The stuff that people throw out here now a-days doesn't have the wit, the charm, the attitude, the feeling that Land did, this movie was my faviourite G.A.R movie by far. The atomosphere remained the same, the characters I was in love with, Riley was the first person who I have seen in the series that could be a "leader of men." I respected the people who died, I wanted to see the peoples stories who survived. Geogre did the best he ever did in my opinion and I honour him for it. I think a sequel should be made, who knows if he will do it, I wish he does.

Land of the Dead was my moneys worth.

[Bad Zombie Night]

The fact that they were like cancer, that even if you kill twenty another twenty thousand are coming to you is over done... Now the cancer can actully think, don't you think thats more scary?
And what's supposed to be so scary about that?
We already have Jason, Freddy, and the possessed Zombies from Evil Dead... I'd say GAR is traveling over the well worn path... Don't cha think?

[jackskellington]

Originally posted by tarman
i can't believe my ears! i find it difficult to think that any of us here would dislike land of the dead so much!

I think that just about everyone with the exception of maybe one person liked the movie overall, it's just that it was missing some things and kind of fell short on what alot of us were expecting. The whole point of the forums is to share our opinions and views and there's no rule that says that everything about the movie has to be universally accepted just because it's a Romero film. Alot of people here don't really like Day but nobody has a problem with that, though I wonder if there would have been a problem if this was 1985 and we were all posting here.

[jackskellington]

The fact that they were like cancer, that even if you kill twenty another twenty thousand are coming to you is over done... Now the cancer can actully think, don't you think thats more scary?

Eh, I liked dawn 04 to, but Land more.


If they can think then they can be reasoned with which makes them WAY less scary.

[Bad Zombie Night]

If they can think then they can be reasoned with which makes them WAY less scary.
You are correct again js! I couldn't have stated it any better. :mrgreen:

[Rookie]

So? You can't just power walk around them any more. Zombies unless there are over 5 of them arnt a threat, you can walk past them, hit them on the head, trick them.

Thats scary?
How the hell is something you can just walk around scary?

or..Your power walking around them and suddenly one attacks you with its old rusted tooba, slapping you on the head with it and knocking you down, so its freinds and it can feast on you.

Your telling me thats less scary then power walking around them?

Night had the brick zombie,

Dawn had the monk zombie that figured out to get fran, And the zombie who kept taking/holding on to the fire arms.

Day of course had bub. Who thrashed and and cried when Logan died.

None of you have ever noticed that this has been in every Romero movie? This isn't new to land. It's been in every movie....

Just land took it to a new level.

[ZombieMannXIII]

Don't know if this counts as a review, but here are some of my thoughts about the movie.

I still have mixed feeling for LoTD, im going to have to see it again. Probably with the gf tomorrow.

I was worried right off the bat because john leguizamo was playing one of the man characters mostly because when I think of him, I think of The Pest, but he did just fine.

Maybe LoTD was too "new" for me. It looked like a lot of the gore was cg, I rather like the old style of using blood packets and latex skin. Let me know what you thought. (Although that one cg attack was mighty cool, you know what i'm talking about if you've seen it)

I think I missed a lot of GAR's social/political commetary too or perhaps it was just so obvious I overlooked it. I got the whole fiddler's green, everyone wanting to have a chance to go there and people already there live in a carefree world and then reality (the zombies) hit them and pretty much says "They are just people too" Isn't the color green a literary symbol for money and the "American Dream" kinda like that green glow across the lake in the Great Gatsby?

I wouldn't hold it any higher than Night or Dawn, maybe par it with Day. It just lacked something. It's hard to say what, but I felt like there should have been more to it. Maybe I haven't seen enough of GAR's movies, but it seemed like any decent writer/director could've done this. None of it was really mind blowing, the characters were just ok. Nothing as great as Night's character's argueing in the house while zombies were trying to get at them, or the deep bonds between characters in Dawn. LotD missed the personal level and just seem to show things as groups, IMO. "Good guys" Want to save as many innocents as possible, "Bad Guys" are so greedy they do not care about other peoples lives as long as they are ok and have money, even if it becomes useless as Human's are being eradicated, and the Zombies are a little more efficient at killing Humans.

The smart zombies were fine by me. It's not bad to see a zombie flick in which Zombies are able to kinda communicate and learn. It appeared that the zombies got too smart to quickly. I got the impression that Bid Daddy was just another zombie doing the things he rememberred doing then he starts calling to his buds and just walks and learns as he goes along. Just thought it was lame at how much intelligence he was given. Oh jackhammers do that? No no Mr. Butcher, chop right here at this weak point. Wow, i'll point this gun because I see it kills my comrads. Still, maybe it is just a further evolved Zombie, but I do not care about Zombies getting smart, I like seeing hordes of mindless zombies, far to great in numbers to stop and comsume any animal that they might be after.

Which brings me to my next point. The area in which LotD takes place was too private. We saw the same group of Zombies over and over again, nothing about zombies grouping up on the way, or the situations in other regions of the world. At least the past three dead movies gave t.v..radio reports on surrounding areas or gave us views of other cities and the landscape.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the movie plenty, nevermind the fact that I got to finally see a Romero dead flim in theaters, but I got to see a well done zombie movie in theaters. (DotD04 and 28 days later are the only others I can think of, both I liked and House of the Dead of course, but I won't go there)

That's about it.

Oh yeah, did the zombie for the picture taking on the left look like Bub? That's what came to mind when I first saw him.

Dennis Hooper, he was the evil exec. right? Didn't he play King Koopa in the Mario Bros. movie?

Masses of shambling zombies that lead to plenty of gore will never get old for me.

[xeno]

Weapon using corpses are a lot scarier that the mindless roamers. Through all the dead movies they have show a basic level of intelligence. In dawn the other zombies follow flyboy to the hidden doorway. I like the idea of more intelligent zombies. If they start driving cars or flying plane then thats just stupid. Charlie and Pillsbury were two good characters. LOTD had a bit to much humor in it. I did like the look of the dead reckoning and would have loved to see it in action more. Maybe my feelings are due to the fact that I read the script a lot. Got a kick out of the tamborine zombie at the beginning.

[jackskellington]

So? You can't just power walk around them any more. Zombies unless there are over 5 of them arnt a threat, you can walk past them, hit them on the head, trick them.

Thats scary?
How the hell is something you can just walk around scary?

or..Your power walking around them and suddenly one attacks you with its old rusted tooba, slapping you on the head with it and knocking you down, so its freinds and it can feast on you.

Your telling me thats less scary then power walking around them?

Night had the brick zombie,

Dawn had the monk zombie that figured out to get fran, And the zombie who kept taking/holding on to the fire arms.

Day of course had bub. Who thrashed and and cried when Logan died.

None of you have ever noticed that this has been in every Romero movie? This isn't new to land. It's been in every movie....

Just land took it to a new level.

The brick zombie was only using it to get food, it was nothing personal.

The monk zombie happened upon Fran...There was no reasoning to it and the one who held onto the firearm kept staring down the barrell of it. I thought that whole thing was more or less for comedic effect rather than an attempt to show powers of reasoning.

Bub wanted revenge on Rhodes for what he did to Logan, not because of what he did to his "fellow zombies." And after he got Rhodes he was done with the whole thing.

[Bad Zombie Night]

The brick zombie was only using it to get food, it was nothing personal.
I agree... Besides he was too frantic to have any powers of reasoning at all.


The monk zombie happened upon Fran...There was no reasoning to it
I also thought that was out of character for a Zombie... What I mean is, here was Fly Boy, and Peter right in front of him. He then opts for the mystery door instead? Sorry, that doesn't cut it for me.

and the one who held onto the firearm kept staring down the barrell of it.
I thought that whole thing was more or less for comedic effect rather than an attempt to show powers of reasoning.
Exactly.
Something perhaps looked familiar, or he just wanted to hold it for some odd reason... He wasn't contemplating a revolution... Also js is right about "comedic effect." If you ever listened GAR's Dawn commentary, he laughed and said, "Here's this guy holding a gun." Never at any time did he make a point about "intelligence."

Bub wanted revenge on Rhodes for what he did to Logan, not because of what he did to his "fellow zombies." And after he got Rhodes he was done with the whole thing.
Yep... He just saluted and walked away. Shit! He didn't even go over and take some of Rhodes's intestine, or a nice juicy eye ball.


Furthermore, "evolution" is a slow process and takes a lot of time over many years... Evolution in animals takes place over many generations, so how is it that Zombies do it all by themselves within a single generation? They're dead rotting corpses, so how are they getting stronger, and smarter? Doesn't really make any sense, does it? :loon:

[Rookie]

And the dead rising to attack the living makes anymore sense?

[tarman]

I can't believe nobody mentioned the small guy from the Ghoulies?

ghoulies....sweet!

[Meli]

Hi Ya'll,


SPOILER ALERT


So, got a chance to hang out with Big Daddy and GAR's personal assistant, Chris, while watching "Land of the Dead" last night twice in San Antonio...

Here's some fun, that some people might already know...

1. Greg Nicotero, master makeup man, is the "draw bridge" zombie... but a bit of trivia... the mechanical head that was cut off by the draw bridge fell into the river and was never seen again... the crew had to call all law enforcement officials about the head and warn them it wasn't real... funny...

2. When Big Daddy auditioned for the part, he was more or less offered it on the spot, but potentially could have lost it as he wanted to go to a golf tourney in California.

3. Big Daddy was his nickname in college, which was also his father's and grandfathers nickname...

4. When asked why he thought his zombie could think, he thought that perhaps his zombie had "mutated" a little further along than the others. He also theorized that when zombies eat meat, they die faster.

5. Big Daddy mentioned that he had to go to "dark places" when finding the motivation for his character. When asked to elucidate, he said he thought about genocide in Rwanda, black slavery rings in Africa, and other global atrocities that go on to this day...

6. When asked about any background research/invention he did for his character, he said that "Big Dadd" was an ex-military man who found a place in Unionville to escape his past exploits in the military. I quiet town where he could get away. Hence, his "pat of the strap" when he shoulders his weapon and leadership ability.

7. In the fantastic "rising" scene from the waters of the three rivers, the female zombie with the cheek missing actually lost both her contacts in one of the takes of the film. Chris said that during one of the shots, as the zombies were required to rise from the water with their eyes open, both of her contacts fell out and drifted into the water and could be seen in the booth. The part wasn't included in the final scene.

8. GAR's personal assistant, Chris, actually participated as a zombie within the first twenty minutes of the film.

Anyway, it was a great time... Big Daddy and Chris were really cool... it was cool to hang out with them as I shared my book, "Down the Road" with people...

But big news for San Antonio Drafthouse WEstlake and surrounding area, the Drafthouse S.A. manager is working on...

A DAY OF THE DEAD 20 ANNIVERSARY REUNION SHOW!!

It's in the works for September with Drafthouse managment attempting to get cast member reunion as well as an appearance by the man, George A. Romero!!!

Keep your eyes out for September in San Antonio...

Sincerely,

Bowie V. Ibarra

Very Interesting. You tell me this now that I have moved away from Texas. :cry: If I was still in Laredo I'd be interested.

[hungryzombie]

It looks like the estimated LOTD opening night box office was about $4.3 million.

http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2005-06-24&p=.htm

How does that compare with DOTD '04 which took in about $11.7 million on opening night?

Why the large disparity? Does this spell doom for the recently resurrected Zombie movie craze in Hollywood?

[guerrilla]

It looks like the estimated LOTD opening night box office was about $4.3 million.

http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2005-06-24&p=.htm

How does that compare with DOTD '04 which took in about $11.7 million on opening night?

Why the large disparity? Does this spell doom for the recently resurrected Zombie movie craze in Hollywood?

DOTD 04 didnt have much for competition did it? LOTD had Batman Begins, the Herby movie, the new Disney film, and Bewitched to compete with.

[hungryzombie]

DOTD 04 didnt have much for competition did it? LOTD had Batman Begins, the Herby movie, the new Disney film, and Bewitched to compete with.

Top grossing films from the weekend of March 20th 2004:

1 Dawn of the Dead
2 The Passion of the Christ
3 Taking Lives
4 Starsky and Hutch
5 Secret Window
6 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
7 Hidalgo
8 Ageny Cody Banks 2
9 50 First Dates
10 Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen

http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/hamann/analysis032004.asp

[Bad Zombie Night]

DOTD 04 didnt have much for competition did it?
That's baloney! Every week at the theater there's competition, and new films that are debuting.

LOTD had Batman Begins, the Herby movie, the new Disney film, and Bewitched to compete with.

Batman Begins? Yes... Bewitched? Maybe, But Herbie: Fully Loaded? Are you kidding? :loon:

[hungryzombie]

The funny thing is that Herbie grossed about as much as LOTD.

[Bad Zombie Night]

The funny thing is that Herbie grossed about as much as LOTD.
I can understand that on a weekend with all the kids going to the theater, but on a Friday? That's not a good sign. :-(

[guerrilla]

by saying not having much for competition i meant no other big releases that were debuting. almost all movies have huge decreases each week, so for that list of DOTD04's debut week, passion of the christ was in second place, but it had already been out for several weeks. therefor, no real competitive films debuted the same weekend as DOTD04 so i stand by my original post.

and i would imagine there are some people who would want to see the herby movie because lindsay lohan is in it.

and isn't Disney's Madagascar also debuting this weekend? not that any potential LOTD viewers are skipping it for Madagascar.

[hungryzombie]

I can understand that on a weekend with all the kids going to the theater, but on a Friday? That's not a good sign. :-(

I guess we should wait and see what the final weekend tallies add up to. But, in defense of the low numbers, it is summertime (compared to March for DOTD '04) and Hollywood is suffering an all-around record slump as of late. We'll see...

[Bad Zombie Night]

I think you making excuses... If a movie is good or if people want to see it, then they'll go to see it.... Plain and simple. ;-)

How do movies make $100M, $200M, $300M? Do you think they do it all in one weekend?

[guerrilla]

I think you making excuses... If a movie is good or if people want to see it, then they'll go to see it.... Plain and simple. ;-)

How do movies make $100M, $200M, $300M? Do you think they do it all in one weekend?

other movies that come out can make or break a movie. sometimes films will change their release date based on what other movies are coming out. anything coming out against a big blockbuster (star wars, batman, spiderman, etc.) is going to lose. no one expected LOTD to make more money than Batman Begins. anyone that did expect it to are fools.

and possibly i am trying to make excuses (lol), but like i said theres no way LOTD was going to beat Batman Begins at the box office.

[Bad Zombie Night]

other movies that come out can make or break a movie. sometimes films will change their release date based on what other movies are coming out.

Then George and Universal should have picked a date on the calendar where they would have little or no competition... How hard is that? It sounds like smart business move to me.

and possibly i am trying to make excuses (lol), but like i said theres no way LOTD was going to beat Batman Begins at the box office.
I also doubt it's going to beat Dawn of the Dead 2004 either.

[guerrilla]

ok so then what do you think made DOTD04 more appealing to a mainstream audience? the zombie/Romero faithful turned out. was it that DOTD04 was more appealing to a mainstream audience and why? or was it that Batman Begins was more appealing to the mainstream audience and how do you think LOTD would have done not going against Batman? just curious on what people think on the topic.

[Moonbutterfly7]

Then George and Universal should have picked a date on the calendar where they would have little or no competition... How hard is that? It sounds like smart business move to me..


Well I think the studios were just so eager to get it out they didn't think about all that. I guess they figured summer was a better time to get Land out there. But I think what hurt them the most was the last min promotion and a half ass job of it too. I mean the show tv spots. But I just felt the promotion for this movie was severly lacking. I guess they thought they could make a little good extra money with this and didn't care if it would be sucessful or not. I don't know.

Plus it seemed more like the studio making that decision than George.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Batman nothing! I remember back when I was a regular movie goer and, if there were more then one film that we wanted to see, then we would see it the following week, or several weeks later (they run for a couple of months usually)... Batman isn't going to keep public from seeing Land... It's the public who will decide whether they want to see Land or not.

Furthermore, Land is a horror film, and if people want to see it, they'll go see it over a super hero film.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Well I think the studios were just so eager to get it out they didn't think about all that. I guess they figured summer was a better time to get Land out there. But I think what hurt them the most was the last min promotion and a half ass job of it too. I mean the show tv spots. But I just felt the promotion for this movie was severly lacking. I guess they thought they could make a little good extra money with this and didn't care if it would be sucessful or not. I don't know.
The studios are going to put out the movie, when they feel the can get the optimum audience to see it... If that means waiting, then they'll wait... We're talking about millions of dollars hanging in the balance here, not monopoly money.


Plus it seemed more like the studio making that decision than George
I would imagine GAR has little to say about it, because he's a director... What could he know about the economics of the box office industry, when he couldn't even get NOTLD copyrighted?

[davethevoice]

I was wondering if there was any body frrom land of the dead cast
or crew had been asked to do the talk shows yet I mean that part
of getting the word out isnt it

Dave Corson

[HorrorOfZombie]

my land of the dead ticket stubbs

http://www.zombiejunkyard.com/galleries/albums/userpics/10002/DSCF2341.JPG

[Bad Zombie Night]

I was wondering if there was any body frrom land of the dead cast
or crew had been asked to do the talk shows yet I mean that part
of getting the word out isnt it

Dave Corson

Yeah... We posted this link a while back on Moviesonline, but it has since come to pass.
MoviesOnline Article: Land of the Dead does Late Night (http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_4267.html)

As far as anything else new coming up, I haven't heard a thing.

[corgi37]

Look, i know, i havent seen it yet, but just a couple of thoughts.

ok, alot of you (newbies mainly) are whining about GAR being sympathetic to the zombies. Ummm, like, which part of the trilogy aint you familiar with? GAR has always stated he has a feeling and sympathy for the zombies. They are not portrayed as mindless monsters, but as "us".

hence, i assume, Rileys decision not to blow the zombies away at the end.

Hey, why? Whats the point? Save them rockets for Canada.

Also, the humour.

The script was saved by he humour. The script has a well rounded synchronicity about it. GAR has alwasys displayed humour in his movies. Often through images or music, or even, sly reactions from the actors. But, to have much of the humour delivered via the script, shows GAR's total command of the medium. The man can write a gag! Hey, comedy is the hardest thing. And, GAR's "comedy" aint the pie in the face type.

Ooops, hey, i guess it is! lol.

[elaire26]

i can't believe my ears! i find it difficult to think that any of us here would dislike land of the dead so much! and that's not just because its a gar movie. this movie was done so well. i felt the characters had alot of depth to them, especially riley/cholo/charlie. they developed over the coarse of the film. the action/gore/scenery was top-notch. this is 2005, so obviously you are going to see some changes and a different look to a gar zombie flick. he's not trapped in 1978. give it time and you will adjust!

and if you really think about it, the zombies have been semi-intelligent since night. the very first zombie we see figures out that a brick can break the window to barbara's car. in dawn, when flyboy is zombified, he remembers where their secret wall is, and he also communicates with the other zombies to tell them to follow him much like big daddy. the whole basis of dawn of the dead was to focus on the fact that zombies remembered what the did when they were alive. in day, there's bub. the zombies have always been semi-intelligent. in land, big daddy happens to be smarter then bub, and it happens to be a central theme of the movie, as hinted only slightly in day. and remember, bub getting extremely pissed off and sad when frankenstein died i.e. big daddy when his comrades are downed?? think about it and you'll see the continuity throughout the whole dead quadrilogy.



and gar's patented social commentary was ever present in land of the dead. and this time, he made no bones about what he was commenting on.

dennis hopper rules.

Hear, Hear! Well spoken Bruce!

"Quick! Get Down!" BANG!!

[Bad Zombie Night]

in dawn, when flyboy is zombified, he remembers where their secret wall is, and he also communicates with the other zombies to tell them to follow him much like big daddy.
Hmmmm... How did flyboy do this? Zombie telepathy maybe? :? :loon: :zom1:
Maybe we watched two different films?

[Airborne]

Hey, why? Whats the point? Save them rockets for Canada.

****Spoiler****




Ok, if it were me, I would save every bit of ammo/fireworks, etc for the long haul to Canada. How did he know the fireworks wouldn't work on a hoard of zombies away from Pittsburgh? Just a movie, I know, but I wouldn't of wasted em. I liked the movie, just had some issues with it--like always--lol.

[Airborne]

Hmmmm... How did flyboy do this? Zombie telepathy maybe? :? :loon: :zom1:
Maybe we watched two different films?

Hehe. Don't know about telepathy but they do follow him for SOME reason. Maybe it just takes a little bit of 'nudging' to get them to do something. He was just made a zombie and probably remembered something about the wall. The others (out of curiosity?) followed along.

[akira12]

can some one please tell me the uk release date :drool:

[SGT. DEATH]

August 5th or september . :cry:

[Bad Zombie Night]

He was just made a zombie and probably remembered something about the wall. The others (out of curiosity?) followed along.

That's my theory.

[Pain]

August 5th or september . :cry:

Latest date i heard was Sept 9th :x

[akira12]

August 5th or september . :cry:

thats sucky we have to wait ages u americans dont no how good u have it :-P

[Emperor]

thats sucky we have to wait ages u americans dont no how good u have it :-P

I think we need a separate thread:

"The Land Lubbers Support Thread"

Now dry those tears or yu'll get me blubbing.

:cry::cry::cry:

Oh there I go :(

I'll be gettin some dolphin tranks to get me through. ;)

[Bad Zombie Night]

thats sucky we have to wait ages u americans dont no how good u have it :-P
Well, everything kinda evens out... We didn't get to see 28 Days Later or Shaun of the Dead right away either. :-(

[akira12]

i spose your right but it just seems that everything even games comes out over your way first. and another thing that ticks me off most sites have the american release dates on but no uk whats with that just cos we are on this little island dont forget about us :-P

[Bad Zombie Night]

i spose your right but it just seems that everything even games comes out over your way first.
Well, I can't really vouch for video games, except that I think the Japanese have first choice on that market. As for movies, that's because their made out in Hollywood for the most part, and Californians have the rest of the country beat... That's because they get to see them even before we do. :x

[akira12]

its strange the jelusy that movie releas dates can cause lol.

[corgi37]

100% confirmed Aug 4th is the Aussie release date. Still dont know the rating though.