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SGT. DEATH
05-11-2005, 03:18 PM
Im shiting my pant already.It looks awesome I just cant wait.

Quinn
05-11-2005, 04:20 PM
You know what this movie needs more than anything? Is it more zombies? no. Is it more action? no. What it really needs is some FREAKING ADVERTISING. What is the point for Universal to release a movie which is only a couple of weeks away and not even have a tv spot out yet? The Interperter which is a good movie, got a lot of tv screen time but it is not being hedged for a summer release. If Universal is afraid that the horror elements will turn people away then thats proably not wise thinking. So far all the big grossers this year have been horror movies-not only that but bad horror movies. Also what is the point of pumping up the release if it is not going to get any tv luvin? I guess it could be bad and their just slagging it off, but then why release so many photos over the past couple days? From what I can tell the only people who are aware of this movie are film fans and horror fans, that stil leaves about 98% of johnny how do ya do public ignorant to hopefully a really great film. The "buzz" method of horror movies now adays seems to be promoting it as a harking back to 70s gritty and brutal horror, so why not utilize that method to get people amped about one of the "brutal" "gritty" classics of the 70s? Theres your selling point right there.
Ah, well Have a good day
Quinn

corgi37
05-11-2005, 09:06 PM
Yeah, fair point, but i think it will sell itself. It's got one of the highest inquiry stats on the net. So many people are vibed that a GAR film is coming out. That alone is sending out signals to horror lover everywhere. '

The Master is back!

There is still a month and 1/2 to go, so i wouldnt panic yet.

Strongest Redfield
05-12-2005, 01:51 AM
some new pics here (courtesy of aint it cool)

http://www.nocturno.it/mostraScheda.php?tabella=news&gruppo=Cinefear&idRecord=20041116115011

Wow!!!

Tom Savini "Hell rider" zombie is there!!!


http://www.nocturno.it/mostraBlob.php?nomeTabella=news&nomeCampo=foto3&idRecord=20041116115011

Bad Zombie Night
05-12-2005, 02:12 AM
Just wanted to mention...

Congrats Dag for posting the 1,000 message onto this thread! :clap:
I guess I can also send out a congrats to SD for making the 1,000th reply to this thread. I guess it depends on how you want to look at it. :loon:
There has also been over 41,000 viewings of this thread, to along with all those posts. I'm sure there will be a lot more posts, and viewings still to come.

zombie2005
05-12-2005, 03:01 AM
Ok so I make it 1001 posts hehe

Anyways I downloaded the orginal land of the dead trailer with the tribute to the first 3 films.

I have it burned on disk and I will lock it up somewhere.

That trailer will be rare and a tip might be a value later on to horror fans.

Just a little treasure for me.

SGT. DEATH
05-12-2005, 12:25 PM
Just wanted to mention...

Congrats Dag for posting the 1,000 message onto this thread! :clap:
I guess I can also send out a congrats to SD for making the 1,000th reply to this thread. I guess it depends on how you want to look at it. :loon:
There has also been over 41,000 viewings of this thread, to along with all those posts. I'm sure there will be a lot more posts, and viewings still to come.
So do I get free entry to the LOTD movie? :drinking:

Sadogoat
05-12-2005, 03:08 PM
The US censors have now issued a rating for Land Of The Dead - it's received a solid R, for "Pervasive Strong Violence and Gore, Language, Brief Sexuality And Some Drug use".

SGT. DEATH
05-12-2005, 05:36 PM
Yes,yes yes... :drool: :drinking:

zombiekilling101
05-12-2005, 05:38 PM
Yes,yes yes... :drool: :drinking:

this is a call for celebration!

Quinn
05-12-2005, 06:17 PM
Man I was hoping for a G rating. That way everytime someone got attacked and eaten a rainbow would come out of their stomach rather than blood. That would be a movie worth seeing.
Have a good day
Quinn

corgi37
05-12-2005, 10:41 PM
Good news indeed. Looking forward to the brief sexuality and drug use!

Zombie's smoking and bonking - love it!

Divided Soul
05-13-2005, 07:45 PM
Although I have never known sexuality to be brief... I look forward to it!

corgi37
05-14-2005, 11:35 AM
Hey, no boasting!

corgi37
05-15-2005, 11:00 PM
NOTICE!

Check out ainitcoolnews.com - The 1st 15 minutes of the film was shown at Cannes.

Man, i am so excited, i can barely hold the contents of my bladder in!

Quinn
05-15-2005, 11:22 PM
Thx for the link Corgi, ya gotta give credit to Romero he is wearing those glasses to the T of oddly cool. He is a link to two interviews one with Romero, one with Dennis Hopper. Although despite Romero looking worse off, Hopper sounds like he is just gone.
http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_4089.html
Have a good day
Quinn
PS: The French interviewer came off as a little pretensious, or was that just me?

corgi37
05-15-2005, 11:58 PM
Cant open them yet (at work). WIll have to wait until i get home.

But, i love GAR's "Fearless Fly" specs. He IS cool.

zombie2005
05-16-2005, 02:32 AM
Thanks for the interview link. Just Awsome.

I don't know where GAR stands on politics but but sure he aight a right wing republican.

I really can't wait for opening day, so excited.

Whats up with dennis hopper? He seems like in a no good mood or something.

Anyways, I was looking up the screen play for resident evil movie, but came upon something else. To share with all of you, I found Romero's screenplay for resident evil before the studio turned him down.

Enjoy

http://www.allmoviescripts.com/scripts/14934168593f510427668d1.html

jackskellington
05-16-2005, 08:25 AM
I know we're all expecting great things from this movie, (20 years is a helluva long time to get one together!), but reading this article makes me think it's probably gonna be even more than any of us could ever have hoped for!!

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=20230

Kicken
05-16-2005, 08:34 AM
Thx for the link Corgi, ya gotta give credit to Romero he is wearing those glasses to the T of oddly cool. He is a link to two interviews one with Romero, one with Dennis Hopper. Although despite Romero looking worse off, Hopper sounds like he is just gone.
http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_4089.html
Have a good day
Quinn
PS: The French interviewer came off as a little pretensious, or was that just me?

I read an interview where he said that he didn’t want to be part of the Anti Bush theme in this movie.

Some_Day...
05-16-2005, 09:12 AM
That's one hell of a biased review!!! But saying that....he is obviously a zombie lover like us...so lets hope that we all feel the same way!!!! :lol:

Not long now......WOOOOOOO!!!!

corgi37
05-16-2005, 09:25 AM
it wouldnt suprise me if Hopper is a rock-solid Republican. So many of those 60's counter-culture people sold out.

Since his make over, he looks like he'd live in a rich whites only gated community. Hey, maybe Fiddler's Green! hahaha.

His Easy Rider, Mad Dog Morgan and Apocalypse Now days are waaaay behind him.

P.S. Did you dudes know Hopper has made 2 Aussie flicks? Mad Dog Morgan in the late 70's and The day we called it a night, which came out and tanked last year. He played a legendary bushranger in the former, and (get this!!) he played Frank Sinatra in the latter! True! The movie is about Sinatra being virtually held prisoner in Australia in '74 after abusing a female journo. Melanie Griffith was in it too. Man, it is one shit film. But, see, the Aussie link to LAND just grows and grows.

corgi37
05-16-2005, 09:34 AM
Holy shit, i take it all back. Hopper was out in space, man! hahaha.

Good on him.

Dagnammit
05-16-2005, 10:09 AM
I'm still trying to figure out if Hopper was stoned or just bored out of his mind. I'm kinda hoping it's the former, but it has to be said that I am a student and, as such, I like to think I can spot a toasted look when I see one, but that didn't look like one to me. Maybe it's jet lag.

I agree that Romero's looking very cool-eccentric in his giganturan frames. They must have had to warp sheets of plate glass to make those lenses. :)

This whole thing is getting more and more exciting by the day. It's been amazing to watch with baited breath as this project has gone from a twinkle in Romero's eye to fan rumour to greenlight to fruition. What a ride it's been!

MonsterHunter
05-16-2005, 11:36 AM
Awesome review! I can barley wait any longer!

:clap:

Quinn
05-16-2005, 01:35 PM
I just checked out the AICN link with the review. It was good, and then I read the comments at the bottom. Man I am glad this website is not like that, jeez it consisted of a bunch of short attacks against people or dumb comments. Anyways I read one that said Romeros fan base has propelled the movies into classics by ignoring the glaring problems of acting and a lack of storyline/message. The counter examples made to these problems are Dawn Remake: better acting, Shaun: better message/quality of film. I dont think fans ignore these problems in fact I think people kind of revel in them. Ah well, to see how bad the comment section is just read an article or two to really be put out by how bad it can get.
Have a good day
Quinn

zombie2005
05-16-2005, 02:30 PM
If Dennis Hopper didn't want to be in a anti-bush horror movie then why, oh why did he take the part?

Anyways, I don't care about the politics in the movie, I want to see romero's horror in action, and the gore.

preacher
05-16-2005, 02:59 PM
Really hate it when people bash 28 days and DOTD04, as if they have a superior taste in zombie movies.

its looking good but this obsessive allegiance with GAR is just tiresome

Also cant see the point of a reviewer whos so far up Romeros ass that his review of the footage could never be objectionable.

Jason Voorhees
05-16-2005, 04:14 PM
Let's leave the politics out. Politics usually turn into flame wars no matter how innocent the intent was.http://www.allthingszombie.com/images/jvsmily.gif

MonsterHunter
05-16-2005, 04:25 PM
Let's leave the politics out. Politics usually turn into flame wars no matter how innocent the intent was.http://www.allthingszombie.com/images/jvsmily.gif

Yeah I just want a damn good Romero zombie movie, that's all that matters!

MonsterHunter
05-16-2005, 04:34 PM
Really hate it when people bash 28 days and DOTD04, as if they have a superior taste in zombie movies.

its looking good but this obsessive allegiance with GAR is just tiresome

Also cant see the point of a reviewer whos so far up Romeros ass that his review of the footage could never be objectionable.

Fanboy or not I thought 28 days and DOTD04 are OK, but I like the old school Zombies much better, you know those old movie where the zombies actually had time too eat there victims instead of just sprinting trough the whole movie.

Ellis
05-16-2005, 05:47 PM
Yeah same here, 28 Days Later was a swell movie, and it wasn't a zombie movie they were "crazies" and DoTd 04'. Well... I am watching it right now for like the fourth time, and I love it.

The Blind Dead
05-16-2005, 06:09 PM
this obsessive allegiance with GAR is just tiresome

Also cant see the point of a reviewer whos so far up Romeros ass that his review of the footage could never be objectionable.
I agree completely. :clap:

That review appears to have been written by a 5th grade drop out. I'm truly anxious to see LOTD but 14 screener minutes was better than the whole DOTD remake? C'mon, drop the lame hating. :roll:

Ellis
05-16-2005, 06:15 PM
Yeah, that guy does seem to be trying wayyyy to hard.

The Blind Dead
05-16-2005, 06:23 PM
I have a ton of respect for Romero as an independent filmmaker and all and I appreciate the Trilogy's status, though I don't necessarily agree with that status, I'm truly tired of the mindless fanaticism.

Romero invented zombie movies? When did this happen? Set the standard and made it almost impossible for others to expand on the zombie concept? Yes. Invented zombies? :loon:

Ellis
05-16-2005, 06:27 PM
Yeah, he didn't invent them, he did as you said raised the bar. Voodo zombies and what not were around for decades before the movie and chances are he didn't make up that kind of undead from scratch.

HOO-HAA
05-16-2005, 06:38 PM
You can almost smell the crust in that boy's pants... man, is he excited! :lol:

Movie does sound quite what I'm looking for, though.. loads of survival horror.

Loved the guys's reference to Mr Pegg - 'some dude called Simon, or something.' :doh:

preacher
05-16-2005, 06:43 PM
i cant see how you can talk about GARS dead films without talking about the political/social commentary that is so obviously implied throught the movies.

and as for Hopper? That dudes not only been phoning his performances in for years, but i think hes like Micheal Caine was in the eighties. Not really caring what movie hes making but just making everything that comes his way regardless of its quality

he was just completely awesome in True Romance, hammed it up a treat in Speed and waterworld. I just hope GARs written a script that Hopper can bring his A game to

Prah
05-16-2005, 07:47 PM
Or the Simon in question could actually be Simon Baker. That'd make more sense.

Still though, that review is incredibly biased and, dare I say it, badly written? And what's so wrong with running zombies? Adds a bit of change to a tired formula I'd say (says the man who loves movies with slow zombies). And I wouldn't call Dawn OTD 04 a remake as such. More a re-imagining.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this summer!

jackskellington
05-16-2005, 09:38 PM
It sounds like some people are tired of the hardcore Romero fans reacting so hard about this movie and I'll grant you that he didn't "invent" zombies in the movies but it seems that he did pretty much invent them devouring their victims so if that hadn't been done in 1968, do you think we would be having LOTD in June, or for that matter, would there have been a 28 Days Later? Very doubtful. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of 28 Days or the sprinting zombies in DOTD04, (although I loved the movie), but I do appreciate the sprinting thing simply for the fact that it was something different. Lets face it, you can't just have zombies lumbering around after people...Been there, done that! Even in LOTD, there will be zombies using tools and guns so let's all just come together and love each movie for what it has to offer, however small!!

zombie2005
05-16-2005, 09:45 PM
I never cared about the politics in his movies and you guys are right, we should leave the politics out.

I love his movies for the fact of the horror nothing else.

Lady of Pain
05-16-2005, 10:06 PM
The kid well... would likely be a kid or a very immature adult, with some very bad grammer as well as a potty mouth. :evil:

Now don't get me wrong, the Living Dead movies are all great and I love 'em but Mr. Romero did not invent zombies, or zombie movies, but with so many followers being wannabes they're too closed-minded for anything fresh and new, which is exactly what Romero's films were in the first place as well = fresh, new ideas.

Zombie-A-GoGo
05-16-2005, 10:20 PM
I have a ton of respect for Romero as an independent filmmaker and all and I appreciate the Trilogy's status, though I don't necessarily agree with that status, I'm truly tired of the mindless fanaticism.

Romero invented zombie movies? When did this happen? Set the standard and made it almost impossible for others to expand on the zombie concept? Yes. Invented zombies? :loon:

This is pretty much how I feel about this. Don't get me wrong...I'm excited about Land of the Dead. Admittedly, I was a lot more excited 15 years ago. Too much has gone on technically for me to really be able to expect the kind of Romero zombie movie that I love. It's just seems unlikely. So much has already changed (and this isn't to say that these thing are inherently bad...they're just not what I like from Romero): it's not shot in Pittsburgh, there's big names in it, I highly doubt they're let him pull most of the soundtrack from library cues. These are some of the things I liked about a Romero movie. I just know it's going to be completely ruined for me the second I hear one hip, trendy friggin' song that's there to sell the soundtrack. :x

Anyway...all that being said...Romero didn't really invent anything, not even the flesh eating ghoul--that folklore's been around for a very long time. He put the right things together at the right time and he reshaped a subgenre. And, as someone pointed out, he did it in such a way that people just can't get over it.

By the way...I liked Dawn04, but I loved 28 Days Later. http://www.abestweb.com/smilies/pineapple.gif

The Blind Dead
05-16-2005, 11:01 PM
I think fans should give films like DOTD04 & 28 Days alot more credit. Sure, 28 Days isn't a zombie flick but it did re-ignite interest in the cinematic zombie. If it weren't for these films popularity, Romero would still be shlepping duds like Bruiser. Dawn and 28 Days put him BACK into the saddle. Fans should be a bit more grateful.

Just my 2 cents of course.

corgi37
05-16-2005, 11:22 PM
You are quite right blind dead. Without 28 & Dawn04, there would be no LAND. GAR has virtually admitted that himself. Or, at least, it would have been a no-budget affair.

I have no probs with "name" actors at all. Zombie-a-go-go, we really cant go backwards. Its 20 years since Day. There is no way anyone would give GAR money to recruit such shonky actors again. I watched Day on the week end, and though i dont mind it, i was really becoming annoyed with the terrible acting. Everyone just has way to much "ham" going on. Liberty and Pilato in particular. It's kind of funny watching their over the top "performance" for a few times, but after say 50 viewings, it gets tiresome.

Anyway, with the exception of Hopper, and maybe John L, i'd hardly call Asia Argento or Simon Baker house hold names. But, at least they can act better than Richard Klar!

I thought 28 days later was brilliant, and i was very entertained by Dawn04. But, now the real deal is upon us. Just to see GAR talk about LAND and its comparisons to current politics shows just how far ahead of the pack he is. "Ignoring the problem", the basic germ of his idea for LAND seems dull when we think of it. As in, what the hell does that mean?

But, when HE explains it, and its consequences, then i am truly excited about seeing LAND.

jackskellington
05-16-2005, 11:30 PM
How about this...Everyone put aside everything and go see Land as if you've never heard of George Romero. Just be happy that zombie movies are back in the theaters like the late 70's to mid 80's instead of hard to find straight to video!! Enjoy it while it lasts 'cause even though I hate to face up to it...this will all be very short lived and we'll be right back to waiting another 15 to 20 years for the cycle to come around again.

corgi37
05-16-2005, 11:37 PM
The social aspect or Romero's films simply cannot be ignored. But, people tend to hang their banners on their interpretation of what he presents. On IMDB there are a few threads like "Is GAR Democrat or Rebublican?"

I mean, i dont frigging care, i aint American! Why should it matter to anyone anyway? And, what teen age pimply dude who likes horror is gonna give a stuff who the Director/Producer/FX guy votes for anyway?

The social setting GAR has indicated in LAND is very similar to the DAY script. I am looking forward to his vision and know i wont be disappointed.

His views on the world, and probably the U.S. in particular, are what seperates his trilogy, and now the 4th, from the rest of the pack He could never make JUST a zombie movie. The reason he is so revered is because he has never made a simple slash and eat fest. He has put thought into it. Added depth that films like Zombi and House of the Dead and even the Dawn remake just dont have.

I'm hoping Hopper's performance is understated, and not over the top like "Frank" from Blue Velvet. Or the nut from SPeed. His character is confidently menacing, and shouldnt have to resort to insane rantings and irrational behaviour. He's cultured. Rich. Powerful. Used to getting his own way.

Of course, when it all goes to shit, i wanna see that crazy Hopper!!!

Quinn
05-17-2005, 12:06 AM
Corgi is right on target with what he said. It does not matter what Romero adds to his films: bigger stars and a bigger budget it will always be Romero (specfically the views and to some degree the economy of the shooting angles and presentation). Kinda like Spielberg, give him a budget- Jurassic Park or don’t- Schendlers List, Jaws, and you will always get a very specific vision in each film. Finally two things I would like to comment on, 1) I keep hearing about these rapid fanatics of Romero but I dont really see any fanaticism, more like a preference. Some people criticize other movies that is true (the most common example is 28 days later and DOD remake) and perhaps those views are misguided and perhaps incorrect, other wise I would hold off on lambasting people. Now I will say that if the movie sucks and people are still trying to defend it then that hints a bit at maybe being to blinded by expectations and perhaps too biased for sense. But such is the way of the internet, millions of sensitive and itchy people waiting to criticize and turn on things that in real life don’t really have much point or some how losing those precious social constructs that pertain to ration the minute the hit the connect key (this is not aimed at people here just more of a general observation, a good example is the msg board movements in general.) 2: I am not worried about Hopper over doing it as much as underplaying it to the point where he isn’t even acting so much as dribbling out his lines. Now a day it seems that really great actors from 20 or 30 years ago-Pacino, Deniro, Hopper seem to have lost the acting art of subtlety and have opted for caricatures in their films.
Have a good day
Quinn

Arson Zombie
05-17-2005, 01:08 AM
Yeah, he was a little wound up. I'm just as excited as the next guy, but I'm not going to masterbate over 14 minutes of it.

preacher
05-17-2005, 01:09 AM
runnning "zombies" were ok in 28 days because they were filled with rage and anger and thats what youd expect them to do.

But DOTD04's premise that once people die they develop almost superhuman athleticism and strength is a bit hard to swallow.

and once this zombie run is over, were going to have to suffer the western comeback, the musical comeback, the swords and sandals comeback etc before we get another crack at the whip

The Blind Dead
05-17-2005, 01:26 AM
once this zombie run is over, were going to have to suffer the musical comeback
Dear God I hope so!!!

:clap:

Vash
05-17-2005, 04:43 AM
:drinking: That just makes me want to see it all the more

Prah
05-17-2005, 07:22 AM
In reply to preacher - whilst I agree that running zombies are indeed hard to swallow, how about the dead rising and consuming the living? Far fetched too perhaps? :)

I can ignore it and just sit back to enjoy the film. If I wanted to I could try and explain away the sprinting as a result of chemicals or something. *shrugs*

Dagnammit
05-17-2005, 08:03 AM
Yeah, that review was pretty shoddy. It offers almost no real criticism, good or bad, beyond him saying "it was totally awesome" and other such Romero lickings. The guy is obviously just regurgitating an opinion he had made up even before the first frame flickered across the screen. Don't get me wrong, it was good of him to post his review and it was interesting to read about the special effects and such, but he could have gone into a bit more depth on the dialogue, direction, acting, cinematography, etc.

I know, I know, I'm probably asking too from a wet-behind-the-ears fanboy's first ever review, but god the anticipation is killing me!!!

Dagnammit
05-17-2005, 08:24 AM
In case anyone is still harbouring doubts about the make-up effects... feast your eyes on these beauties:

http://www.horrorchannel.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=533&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

SGT. DEATH
05-17-2005, 08:55 AM
Now they do look scarey. :scare: :scare:

Zombie Survivor
05-17-2005, 09:49 AM
Can't wait to see the LotD!!!

Zombie Survivor
05-17-2005, 10:03 AM
WOW!!! That looks extremely realistic and creepy!!! I can't wait!!!

Airborne
05-17-2005, 11:45 AM
Hmmm, judging from the looks of one of the newer zombies and the previous (pretty?) girl zombie coming out of the water, I'd say there's a ghoul out there with a preference for the right side of peoples faces....they look great though!

MonsterHunter
05-17-2005, 12:15 PM
In case anyone is still harbouring doubts about the make-up effects... feast your eyes on these beauties:

http://www.horrorchannel.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=533&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Oh my!!!!!

Excellent creepy looking zombies! I liked the long haired one the best!
Reminded me of the creepy skeletons from the first Poltergeist movie!

:)

SICBELLY
05-17-2005, 12:34 PM
Those pics were fantastic, IMO!! Only a little over a month left!

ROTTINGDEAD
05-17-2005, 01:29 PM
I cannot wait to see LOTD...But,did that review actually say "Zombies using machine guns?"
Simple tools in "Night" like throwing a brick thru the headlights of Bens ("borrowed") truck are one thing.
They even comment on Zombies using simple tools in "Dawn".
I dont like the running Zombie concept...but I can accept it.(think Bill Hinzman in "NOTLD",he wasnt exactly slow at times,but he wasnt running and he was the first Zombie Romero introduced us to)
But man,I have a hard time with Zombies being smart.
I disliked the idea in Day,but accepted that maybe one Zombie had enough memory left,that he still mimicked some old behaviour skills.
But If Zombies are getting smart enough to pick up a machine gun and fire it...thats a little too "Night of the Comet"for me.
Zombies are dead,only motor skills remain and the need to feed.
They cannot learn.
If they can fire guns..and are that smart,maybe they should realise that eating people is a bad thing.
We should be-friend those Zombies!
I dont like this concept,and I agree that George didnt invent the mythos of the Zombie...but he did invent that particular world.
A world where Voodoo isnt the cause of the dead returning to life,but Radiation is the culprit.
So,I guess he can make his Zombies anyway he sees fit.
Dont get me wrong,I cant wait to see this.
I just like the slow,unthinking klling zombies,that will surround you in masses,and tear your guts from your shriekng bleeding body.
Not gunning you down like a gangsta!
Cant wait!
Later-Dustin
director-"FLESH CRAWL"
WWW.FLESHCRAWLMOVIE.COM

zombie2005
05-17-2005, 02:27 PM
Only one zombie uses a gun, the rest are just regular zombies, I dont know the story but I would bet that th main zombie was altered in some way to be that way by the rich.

MonsterHunter
05-17-2005, 02:35 PM
When you have zombies that are thinking, talking, shooting guns, play tennis, and run the marathon they have become like normal people again. All the elements that make’s them mystic and creepy are gone. That why I prefer the old slow gut munching zombies altough I can live with one zombie with a gun.

MonsterHunter
05-17-2005, 02:41 PM
In case anyone is still harbouring doubts about the make-up effects... feast your eyes on these beauties:

http://www.horrorchannel.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=533&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

Hmm the pics are gone! What happened?

Flesh-Aholic
05-17-2005, 03:03 PM
But DOTD04's premise that once people die they develop almost superhuman athleticism and strength is a bit hard to swallow.


I thought the running zombies in DOTD '04 was a great thing. For one thing, I think that is a lot more frightening than slow, awkward moving things that a quadrapalegic could escape from. Secondly, (and more relevant to this rant) these things are DEAD!!! That means no getting out of breath from a lot of running, no muscle fatigue from over-work, and not caring about either of these things. They would eventually slow down, (sooner or later the muscles and connective tissues would decompose after all) but I have no trouble with the concept that a reanimated corpse could run for the first month or so.

Anyone else have thoughts on this, or does everyone here share this hatred of running zombies?

preacher
05-17-2005, 03:40 PM
no beating heart to pump the blood round the muscles to make the legs run either.

DOTD04 had the problem in that they didnt explain why the people are like this. at least 28 days explained they have rage so they run like buggery

so while the original DOTD had the zombies rightly trudging around the place acting like theyre dead, the remake just suddenly had little girls who can do gymnastic leaps into the air, big fat old ladies whose abs are so good she can sit up right without using her arms and EVERYONES an olympic runner when in reality very few people are fit enough to run a hundred meters when theyre alive let alone dead.

but theres the trouble, the more you try to explain it the more it becomes unbeliveable.

i think any movie that has the dead doing undead things needs to explain it like they try to do in day of the dead with the conditioning etc.

i think with the conditioning and showing them to still be able to use tools and stuff it shows theyre still human. theyve just returned to a base cannibalistic, mindless state

jackskellington
05-17-2005, 06:17 PM
All of the "basic motor skill" and "primodial ooze" stuff was explained, very well I thought, in Day of the Dead wasn't it? Dr. Logan was attempting, and succeeded ultimately, in kind of "befriending" Bub so he was evidently on the right track to at least some sort of solution. If you have the LOTD trailer saved you can pause it and go through it slowly and see where the big black zombie in blue coveralls has an automatic rifle slung over his right shoulder when it first shows him and he again has it in another frame where he is actually firing it. Also, there is one point where a horde of zombies break through a large glass window where you can see several of them holding hammers, crowbars etc. This is all part of the zombies evolving which is wonderful because it's something new and who better to bring it to us than GAR? I'll be the first to admit that ALL of his movies had terrible acting and cheesy lines but now that he has a huge budget with an even bigger distributor who is willing to put this movie out against Batman Begins, The Longest Yard and War of the Worlds, I think this is going to be a whole different ball game. If you think about it, Day in 1985 was pretty much the last "big" zombie movie to hit theaters so he does pretty much rule the genre, although I'll support any director willing to do a zombie flick.

jackskellington
05-17-2005, 06:37 PM
Correction...I'll support any director willing to do a zombie flick EXCEPT that Ewe Bolle guy who did House of the Dead. What a steaming pile of pony loaf that was! I can't even begin to imagine what corporate idiot greenlit the sequel but I for one will not be attending that one!!

zombie2005
05-17-2005, 09:46 PM
If zombies would in real life rule the world, would you act professional, say professional things, be tough or go crazy?

What I am talking about?

Most people call no name actors cheesy or have cheesy lines. In a real sitituation would you speaker properly, or say the right things.

We are bought in to hollywood movies so much, when we see independant films its like this movies sucks, or it has cheesy lines, or the actors suck. Hollywood tries to makes it lines like a shakespear play.

Im not sure if im explaining this right but do you guys get what I'm trying to say?

Zombie-A-GoGo
05-17-2005, 10:13 PM
Let's say we get back to talking about this review. If not, I'm just going to merge this one with the main Land thread.


George Romero showed the first 14 minutes of his new work, or i should better say epos, because it sure looks so. LAND OF THE DEAD! Also, he brung along Asia Argento, John Leguziamo, Dennis Hopper & Wife and some dude called Simon or something.


I just wanted to say that "brung" is not a word. He uses the word "epos" but then throws out some slang for "brought." Anyway...

Ellis
05-18-2005, 12:05 AM
Zombie2005 I completely understand you, we all talk like that, so what if our lines aren't dramatic? If we see someone who needs to die, we wont hold the gun for 80 minutes giving a speech, we'd just say "**** you" and pull the trigger.

Your right.

preacher
05-18-2005, 03:51 AM
the trouble with noname cheesy actors is that they say lines like they would say them and not how the character would say them.

or they overact (anyone seen the end of Saw?) and it draws you out of the film

im not against hamming it up but hopper belongs to that group of actors who it doesnt matter who they play theyre still playing themselves.

Im talking about Tom cruise, jack nicholson, micheal caine, sean connery occasionally clint eastwood.

Sometimes they bring in a truly exceptional performance but most of the time their charisma etc over-rides the acting ability.

but getting back to the review, its good to see that 14 minutes of the film's spectacular. As i wouldnt class any specific 14 minutes of the original trilogy as anything like that, let alone the starts of them which are quite pedestrian

Dagnammit
05-18-2005, 08:07 AM
Yes, they seem to have taken the images down. Perhaps Universal have been rattling their sabres again. You can still see a couple of them over at: http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_4103.html

corgi37
05-18-2005, 08:24 AM
Grrrrrrr. Well, the 2 i saw looked damn fine. Nice to see some rotten zombies, instead of the sort of recent kills.

God, i cant wait.

jackskellington
05-18-2005, 08:31 AM
Of course we would say cheesy things in real life and Hollywood does it differently...Thats the whole point of movies, to take us away from real life for a couple of hours. Just because a film is independent with no name actors doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be cheesy but GAR's movies have just always ended up that way. Tom Savini isn't necessarily a "no name", but his acting has ALWAYS been cheesy whether it's an independent like the ultra cheesy Children of the Living Dead or even a big budget, big director, big actor, big studio movie like From Dusk 'til Dawn. Let's all be happy for Mr. Romero that he has finally gotten the big budget, distributor and names! The reason these people are big name actors is because they don't do cheesy lines. If you were sitting at a table with a low budget production company on one side offering you a low 6 figure budget with a bunch of no names, and Universal on the other side offering a high 8 figure budget with huge established actors which would pretty much cement your name in Hollywood, which would YOU take? Let's not be self-righteous and try being honest. Besides, would your vision of an apocolyptic world ruled by the living dead be better realized with $100,000 or $12,000,000?

zombie2005
05-18-2005, 03:39 PM
Romero never cared about who played his charactors. If anyone remembers when DOTD 04 was about to be release, how many news channels, hbo specials or any other specials at all they really promoted that movie? I think it made in 1# spot for only one week.

Star Wars 3 is due to be released tomorrow right? Why is this movie so poplar with no name actors as the main charactors?Star wars doesn't have nicole kidman, tom cruise, or any other big shot actor. So why is this movie so popular? Well the special effects, and visual effects for one thing.

YOu can't please everyone, no movie is perfect, there will always be critics who give bad news about the movie

Divided Soul
05-18-2005, 04:31 PM
Well as I stated in another thread.... Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.... and they all stink!

preacher
05-18-2005, 06:23 PM
everyone knows that hoppers playing a baddie so hes going to get chomped, but i think with horror movies its best to have a largely unknown cast and whack them indiscriminately.

My little eye did it quite nicely, deep blue sea had a few shock deaths but 99 percent of the time you can tell which characters going to survive based on how big an actors playing them.

i only know of hopper and john leguzathingy, and as long as romero doesnt descend into horror movie cliches im hoping im going to be suprised as to who gets it and who doesnt.

i just hope we dont have the old "attractive girl and the romantic love interest" as the last survivors.

right at the end it would cool to see something like out of mad max two with a long chain of buses and cars fleeing the city and off into the sunset. ready to fight another day

jackskellington
05-19-2005, 08:41 PM
Just when in the hell is Land gonna start getting some advertisements on TV? I'm constantly seeing ads for movies that are coming out AFTER June 24th and have been for the last month or so but never anything for Land. Is it because of the sudden change in the release date or something? Also, is the trailer just a teaser? If so, does anyone know of a relase date for a new one? Just thought I'd put it out there!!

corgi37
05-20-2005, 12:19 AM
Certainly is cutting it a bit fine.

Dagnammit
05-20-2005, 11:31 AM
Woo! I just found some clips of Romero getting interviewed after the Cannes screening: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bs.nono/index2.htm

Vash
05-20-2005, 11:57 AM
Woo! I just found some clips of Romero getting interviewed after the Cannes screening: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bs.nono/index2.htm

Just listened to them. Bas ass man

Divided Soul
05-20-2005, 10:41 PM
Woo! I just found some clips of Romero getting interviewed after the Cannes screening: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/bs.nono/index2.htm
GAR gets my vote for president...!

Zombie Mark
05-21-2005, 01:40 AM
GAR gets my vote for president...!
I agree! Talk about someone who could unite this country in the face of a common enemy (zombies, terrorists, what have you)!

corgi37
05-21-2005, 09:01 AM
He's looking old, aint he? Still, those glasses, his hair, and his denims looks ace. He's one cool old geezer.

hey!!! He reminds me of the Grandpa from the Lost Boys!

corgi37
05-21-2005, 10:20 AM
Holy shit! Took me over an hour, 2 computer crashes, and heaps of hassles, but what great stuff. Best of all, was the flat screen behind "the man" playing what i assume was the 1st 15 minutes of LAND! I 100% saw a chomping scene! Looked like it was the booze shop.

Looked awesome.

Bad Zombie Night
05-21-2005, 10:40 AM
I dunno, the damn thing won't play at all for me. :x It says my system needs a Quicktime update, but then it says there is none available for download from Quicktime. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Signs/WTF.gif

Maybe all I need is an apple computer?.... No way you'll ever see that happen. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/throwputer.gif

Quinn
05-21-2005, 01:22 PM
I had the same problem, the deal is that they are avi and your computer for whatever reason like mine will only play them in quicktime. Just save to desktop or where ever and open them independently.
Have a good day
Quinn.
PS: Something that is kinda annoying is that the Adventures of Shark boy and Lava Girl is starting to get tv ads ad nasuem yet there has been no Land ad. While the Lava girl movie does come out on the 10th of June it still would be nice to see a little something. Hell the movie "The Island" isnt going to come out until July 22 and yet it has tons of tv ads. But diffrent movie, budget, and stars I guess.

goesaround
05-21-2005, 04:05 PM
What a thrill! In the back of the interview on the screen they are showing a scene from 'Land of The Dead'! I actually got a rush of fear watching..By the way I just finished Bob Dylan's book 'Chronicles'. I got a huge smile because in the last paragraph or two he says American in the late sixties and seventies was like the movie "Night of the Living Dead"! I'm paraphrasing but he definitely ends with a clear reference to Romero's movie! Wow I got to watch a little of land of the Dead! So can you!

corgi37
05-22-2005, 09:20 AM
Not all of them worked for me, but most did. I opened them, via Netscape, and just used the default application.

I just watched them again. Boy, does GAR give funny looks to the guy next to him. Like he's bored out of his skull! Rolling his eyes and giving this "Arrrh, end this!" smile. Maybe he's sick of the questions already. The French seem obsessed with the assumed politics of the film. Looks like he want to be anywhere but where he is.

And i STILL say he looks like Grandpa from Lost Boys. Just needs a bandanna on his head.

Pain
05-22-2005, 10:22 AM
And i STILL say he looks like Grandpa from Lost Boys. Just needs a bandanna on his head.

:lol: That's just made my day Corgi37! Funny as fook! :lol: :clap:

Carrying on from the Land will be runty thread. There will always be a slight apprehension when such an eagerly awaited movie is on the horizon.
I don't expect it to be on par with Dawn 78, however i don't think GAR will let us down :pray:
We will all find out next month anyway.

chickenchop1
05-22-2005, 02:17 PM
LAND OF THE DEAD should be great. I'm pretty happy they bumped it up to June 24, 2005 instead of October 21st.

Intelligent zombies. I think George knows what he's doing. Bub from Day of the Dead was fun to watch, and he still looked dead to me, which pulls it off.

Still, if the intelligent zombies don't look "Dead enough", then they might just pass for a bunch of stupid people trying to be smart, who like to eat humans.

I believe Greg Nicotero, from Day of the Dead, is doing the effects, so I don't think I have to worry.

Even so, it's awesome George is finally bringing out another DEAD movie. He's even hinted that if this one takes off, there could be another one.

jackskellington
05-22-2005, 03:54 PM
Great interview but it sure seems that the woman was trying real hard to steer GAR into simply bashing the United States rather than talking about the movie. Of course he has his own political beliefs but did she really have to classify Dennis Hopper's character as a Republican while all the poor downtrodden living on the streets are Democrats? Keep entertainment and politics separate or you'll go down in flames!! Examples: R.E.M., Rage Against the Machine, Sean Penn, Tim Robbins...I could go on but you get the idea. These are only my opinions and I realize that this isn't a political forum so now that I've vented I won't say anymore about it. I'll just leave it at I think the interviewer was way out of bounds with some of those questions. Thanks for listening!!

Emper0r
05-22-2005, 07:15 PM
It's rather sad, because republicans and conservatives talk about how democrats bring politics into everything, yet they're the ones finding political messages in Episode 3 and now they're making a big deal about GAR's political metaphors in his ZOMBIE movie? Jesus christ... talk about hyper sensitive.

Anyways, is there any new pictures people can post? Has anyone seen a hint of a day scene yet?

If he makes another dead movie after Land, I'd imagine it wouldn't be long afterwards. Because they're already(or should be) very decomposed in land due to them being around for so long. To the person who said fast zombies are better than slow, I suppose it's mainly dependant on what you saw first.

First zombie movie I saw was the Night of the Living dead remake(which dont you guys agree is pretty underrated?) and I was 12 years old and it gave me nightmares for 3 months straight.

The image of a half-rotten corpse dripping with blood, limping down a dark alley moaning is still one of the creepiest images ever in my opinion.

Quinn
05-22-2005, 08:50 PM
I was wondering, since the film is coming out in the states soon I think their needs to be some way of disuccsing the film without spoiling for the rest of the people who can not see it until August (UK) or November (Austrilia). I live in the US but I thought it would be kinda nice to those international folks, make people who have not yet seen the film to be less tempted to ask question (lord knows I would be), and would cut back on counter productive postings (nothing kills a persons enthusiasm/ open mindness for a film more than a person who dislikes it and then blows the whole film by givening away plot.). But I think that it is really up to a combo of what the mods want to do about it and what the community wants to do. At this point I was thinking that upon its release perhaps having a thread in the Classic/non Classic zombie film section while keeping this thread open for postings about interviews and the like. But like I said if that is too much to moderate than that is cool.
Have a good day
Quinn

Quinn
05-22-2005, 08:53 PM
Please forgive the bad spelling, just got back from a soccer match and am rather wiped out.
Have a good day
Quinn

Pain
05-22-2005, 08:55 PM
We don't get it til August? Am pissed off now :x There was me being led to believe we'd get it at the same day as the US, as we did with Episode 3.

Post away though when you do get to see it, just stick spoiler alerts and i'll scoot on past it!

Quinn
05-22-2005, 08:58 PM
I beleive it to be Aug, at least thats what it is stated at IMDB.com which is usually pretty good about those things. Sorry mate
Have a good day
Quinn

Pain
05-22-2005, 09:02 PM
I'll live. Just!

Just a shame that's all. Just had a quick look about and it appears you could well be correct. Also found out that we get a dvd release for House of the dead in June :x but the less said about that the better :lol:

Quinn
05-22-2005, 09:16 PM
Just an FYI for those who live in Pittsburg or on the East coast with a great deal of time on your hands. If you want to snag a ticket to the Pittsburg premiere here is the info.....
Land of the Dead Pittsburg Premiere
June 22, 2005
Byham Theatre
TICKETS: 412-456-6666
(available after May 23)

Have a good day
Quinn

corgi37
05-22-2005, 11:27 PM
Same thing happened with Dawn04. We didnt get it until August last year. By then, i had watched it umpteen times on cd-r. Hopefully, the release date for Land will be brought forward. Its a real weird situation here in Oz.

Horror movies always get delayed here. Gothika was on dvd in U.S. just as it hit the flicks here. Yet, Star Wars opened the day before the Yanks got it, XXX2 at exactly the same time. Same with all the kids movies.

It's damn annoying.

Feel free to discuss EVERY aspect of Land when it comes out. I want to know everything. A scene by scene discription. Nothing left out!

Chances are we might get the release date earlier too. But, and i know its not nice, i will 100% download it from the net. Sorry, just cant wait. Then, i will see it at the flicks, then, i will buy the dvd.

I mean, its just ridiculous. It's more than probable that i can buy the dvd before the bloody thing even gets released here.

jackskellington
05-23-2005, 07:24 AM
Hey Emporer...As for that political statement I made yesterday, if you'll read it again I think you'll find that I was not bringing politics into ANY movies. I was only pointing out that that's what the interviewer did and it was annoying. That's all.

jackskellington
05-23-2005, 07:26 AM
It's rather sad, because republicans and conservatives talk about how democrats bring politics into everything, yet they're the ones finding political messages in Episode 3 and now they're making a big deal about GAR's political metaphors in his ZOMBIE movie? Jesus christ... talk about hyper sensitive.

Anyways, is there any new pictures people can post? Has anyone seen a hint of a day scene yet?

If he makes another dead movie after Land, I'd imagine it wouldn't be long afterwards. Because they're already(or should be) very decomposed in land due to them being around for so long. To the person who said fast zombies are better than slow, I suppose it's mainly dependant on what you saw first.

First zombie movie I saw was the Night of the Living dead remake(which dont you guys agree is pretty underrated?) and I was 12 years old and it gave me nightmares for 3 months straight.

The image of a half-rotten corpse dripping with blood, limping down a dark alley moaning is still one of the creepiest images ever in my opinion.


This is the statement I'm referring to. Forgive me for not posting it on my reply above but, as I've said before, I'm not very computer literate.

chickenchop1
05-23-2005, 12:16 PM
Relating to the Land of the Dead Teaser trailer, at the end, the old guy says something like, "I hate zombies." Is this the first time George A. Romero uses the word ZOMBIES in one of his DEAD films?

I think it is, not that I'm worried about it. Somebody else posted awhile back that it's taboo to use the word, "Zombie" in a zombie film; suggesting the word makes the movie less in some small way. I don't think so.

Just a thought. Personally, I don't mind hearing the term "zombies" instead of "those things" all the time.

Kemper
05-23-2005, 01:02 PM
looking at George i don't think he will be making another one.

I don't think politics make a difference in liking Romero's movies. I'm republican and a shade conservative on some issues. I could give a rats ass on what people think about the movies i like or dislike. I need my boobies and violence...just like the next guy. I think Romero makes his characters and stories interesting in spite of some believablity issues. Why the hell wouldn't you like a Romero zombie movie.

...oh shoot i think i'm going to be put on double secret probation now.

Emper0r
05-23-2005, 01:53 PM
So any new pictures from Land guys? Man I can't wait!!!!!!!! Not much longer...

jackskellington
05-23-2005, 06:47 PM
I've got a photo of a feasting scene from Land that I have on my computer at work so I'm gonna have to wait until Wednesday to get it but maybe someone else out there has it. If it's not here by Wednesday I'll post it first thing that morning around 6 am.

jackskellington
05-23-2005, 09:10 PM
Here 'ya go Emporer...I finally remembered where I found that pic so I didn't have to go get it at work!! I just hope that scenes like this aren't quick flashes that you can only catch subliminally like the one in DOTD 04 where the Janitor is eating the still alive victim in the sports store. Those quick flashes suck!!!

http://www.horrorchannel.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=518&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

corgi37
05-23-2005, 10:49 PM
That pic is old news, and features on this thread a few pages back.

We need new pics.

No, we need another trailer!

jackskellington
05-24-2005, 09:02 AM
Still No Television Ads!!! What The Hell Is Universal Waiting On!!! George Lucas Waited 20 Years To Do A Shitty New Star Wars Movie And They Previewed That Sucker A Year In Advance With Posters Everywhere You Turned!! Well, We've Been Waiting 20 Years As Well So How About It?!!!

Some_Day...
05-24-2005, 09:10 AM
Damn stright Jack you tell them son!!! Bring on the dead!!!!!

jackskellington
05-24-2005, 09:29 AM
In fact...If I remeber correctly, I saw a short teaser for Dawn 04 on the big screen SEVERAL months before it's release so again I ask, WTF?!!!

Some_Day...
05-24-2005, 09:37 AM
We don't get it til August? Am pissed off now :x There was me being led to believe we'd get it at the same day as the US

Woah woah woah....I'm bit slow on the uptake here....what the hell do you mean August?! I can't wait that long...I'll have had a heart attack by then with all the tension!!! Damn Americans!!!!

jackskellington
05-24-2005, 09:44 AM
I feel for all the European fans for having to wait on this movie. Hell, it'll be hitting DVD here about the time it's hitting the theaters there. Seems the only thing that hits US shores last is Playstations! Fear not though, 'cause you know Land will be available on Bearshare, Kaaza etc. once it hits theaters so you'll all be able to get it there. Granted it's not the same as the big screen and personally, I would wait until I could see it at the theaters but I'm sure the waiting would be horrible!!

jackskellington
05-24-2005, 10:15 AM
Look out Resident Evil!!!!!! After opening the window below, scroll down a bit and take a look at the video clips. Pretty f-ing awesome!!!

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/618/618019p1.html

Divided Soul
05-24-2005, 03:27 PM
Well those images are killa!!!

Quinn
05-24-2005, 03:47 PM
Shouldnt that go in the video game section? Unless I missed something in the link (in which case please excuse this comment). Also I know I have been the biggest complainer, well more like whiner but with the films release a month away shouldnt there have been a new trailer or maybe even a tv ad? I would assume so, even though this is kinda a small summer film shouldnt they at least have a little something? Could it be the reason for the switch is due to the fact that Universal might have wanted to give more time to the Doom movie and so just decided to switch Lands position so that it can kinda just make an apperance? From my view point a film like Land would do better and maybe fit the the vybe of a October release. Mainly because people want to see things explode and be enterntained in the Summer and be scared and actually have to pay attention in the fall (mostly October). For my money Romero movies are not really "popcorn" movies even if you cut back on gore, also his films are not really known for their upbeat fun in an innocent sort of way mood. Unless I missed the deleted scene in Day when Dr.Frakenstien said "I am too old for this sh#%." and then procedded to jump out a plate glass window with Jackie Chan while a building exploded behind them.
Have a good day
Quinn

jackskellington
05-24-2005, 05:04 PM
Sorry for not putting that link above in the video game section Quinn but I haven't really learned my way around here as of yet. I'm not really into video games so I've never looked for a specific section for them, but I am WAY into GAR so I would definitely want to know about THIS video game and would be pissed to never find out about it because it was in the "video game section."

Quinn
05-24-2005, 07:37 PM
No worries, I understand that it would kinda by hard to tell where a game like this is on the site (even the topic in the game section does not make it understood that Romero has a hand in its developement). Also if you visit the topic in the games section there is a host of news some good and bad (for example the recent dread central article). Also hopefully if by exploring the game section you can find some stuff that intrests you.
Have a good day
Quinn

Bad Zombie Night
05-24-2005, 08:32 PM
I had the same problem, the deal is that they are avi and your computer for whatever reason like mine will only play them in quicktime. Just save to desktop or where ever and open them independently.
Have a good day
Quinn.

Thanks for the free advice Quinn! ;-)
I just forgot to give that method a try. I did save it on my computer, but when I played it there was sound only, and no video. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Signs/WTF.gif

jackskellington
05-24-2005, 09:21 PM
Here's a nice gallery of pics from Land, including a couple that I've never seen before. If they have already been posted somewhere then excuuuuuuuuuse me!!!

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/gallery/photodir.php?dir=459

corgi37
05-24-2005, 09:22 PM
Yeah, i only got sound too.

Quinn
05-25-2005, 03:24 PM
Go here for a scene from land of the dead. It begins at the 23 min, however I would watch the whole things because there is some good snipets from other films coming out that look pretty good (exm: Wolf Creek). God bless this swedish show and its giant skulled host.
http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/department/616/jsp/content.jsp?&contentdep=35935&ramfile=050523cannes_hi.ram&isclipinfo=false&frames=true&isbroad=false&looksdep=15802&wmfile=050523cannes_hi.asx&filepath=/content/1/c6/39/48/22/&haswm=true&hasrp=true&hastested=true
Have a good day (sorry about the long link)
Quinn

Quinn
05-25-2005, 03:26 PM
As an addendum watch the qucik clip with Mickey Rourke following the land clip it is insanely funny.
Have a good day
Quinn

Mervin Chip Chipperson
05-25-2005, 03:49 PM
cool clip, thanks for posting, I want more!

goesaround
05-25-2005, 05:37 PM
"You've not seen nothing like the mighty Quinn" Great stuff. What a bark Big Daddy has

SGT. DEATH
05-25-2005, 07:40 PM
great clip makes the wait even harder. :)

Quinn
05-25-2005, 08:02 PM
One more bit of news, here is a new pic

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movie-gallery/albums/userpics//lotd2505052.jpg

Have a good day
Quinn

jackskellington
05-25-2005, 08:27 PM
Looks like he's calling out to his zombie buddies about the fresh meat in the bushes!!! F-ing Awesome!!!!

Kicken
05-25-2005, 09:35 PM
Cool clip og pic!

:clap:

corgi37
05-26-2005, 12:00 AM
Where has the pic gone?

corgi37
05-26-2005, 12:16 AM
And, here's some breaking news, kiddies. Mainly for Aussies (i'm sure the rest of you dont give a rats ass).

LAND's cinema release date brought forward from Nov 1 to Aug 4.

Unsure what the rating will be at this stage.

Its not ideal, but i can handle the delay. At least its better than the 5 months it took Dawn04!

Quinn
05-26-2005, 01:22 AM
Final news for today from me. Be sure to maintain an eye on moviesonline.ca they will be having several contests to coincide with Land of the Dead coming out.
Have a good day
Quinn

preacher
05-26-2005, 03:04 AM
that clip made it look like he was communicating to the other zombies.

looks good, his directing style looks more modern than the previous ones.

MADMAN
05-26-2005, 06:24 AM
Words really can't express just how wet the thought of a new Romero zombie movie makes me feel.


I know I've been double posting quite a bit lately, and I haven't finished reading the thread, though I doubt by the time I finish it, there'll be much left to say. I just had to respond to this.

I think I just messed myself. Somebody get me towel...and some handi-wipes.

Emper0r
05-26-2005, 01:39 PM
God that clip is huge, does anyone know where in the movie the land of the dead clip is? Like is it near the end or...

Mervin Chip Chipperson
05-26-2005, 02:14 PM
God that clip is huge, does anyone know where in the movie the land of the dead clip is? Like is it near the end or...

Did you see the same clip I did, the one I saw was less then 30 seconds involving a couple characters viewing a gas attendant zombie from a distance

Airborne
05-26-2005, 02:51 PM
Well, I've read the script and don't want to give too much away....but.....

it takes place near the beginning of the movie (script anyways)

Divided Soul
05-26-2005, 03:09 PM
Well the script is good... still haven't read the ending tho... I'll save that till after the movie...

MADMAN
05-26-2005, 07:33 PM
I gotta say, aside from the whole 'jurassic park-esque' 'velociraptor' idea that the zombies will get smarter and communicate, I think this one's going to kick some serious a$$. I myself am not a big fan of the whole 'evolution of the undead', although, Romero's original corpses in NOTLD were a bit smarter than the average corpses seen in other films. They used primitive tools and such. Ahh well, I gotta find that "zombies running" thread, because I really want to get in on that discussion. Either way, if Romero's back it can only mean good things for the fans of the genre. City of the Dead the video game anyone? (even if it is first person. First person is not scarier dammit! :x )

jackskellington
05-26-2005, 07:52 PM
God that clip is huge, does anyone know where in the movie the land of the dead clip is? Like is it near the end or...

You have to drag the bar over to about the 23 minute mark and it will buffer from there, unless you saved the whole thing. I think Quinn advised about that when he originally posted it a couple of pages back.

corgi37
05-27-2005, 02:02 AM
Well, i cant see the pics.

You are fired!

preacher
05-27-2005, 02:07 AM
i hate to say this but if theyre communicating, using guns and tools surely its not beyond their capacity to put one leg in front of the other faster than normal and then maybe do that until they are at a running speed?

i mean everyones been hating on the running zombies but now that youve got them doing everything except playing twister then i dont see how anyone can have a problem with it.

if their brains are doing stuff they remembered in their former lives and a large percentage of the world run to keep fit then surely some of them would be runners?

much like there are different types of bees for different jobs, there could be different types of zombies for different jobs

corgi37
05-27-2005, 02:44 AM
But, their "daddy", George A Romero, wont allow it!

jackskellington
05-27-2005, 08:03 AM
Using tools and basic communication doesn't require alot of strength as running does. Let's not forget that although reanimated, these corpses are rotting and therefore probably don't do very well at anything requiring alot of cardiovascular activity!!! Also, Quinn, I can never see any of the pics you post...WTF?

jackskellington
05-27-2005, 08:10 AM
Hey Universal!!! Paramount is previewing the shit out of War of the Worlds on TV which comes out AFTER Land!! They must have some Faith in their work! Although, you guys are previewing Cinderella Man alot so I guess that counts huh?!! Russell Crowe is old news! Bring on the DEAD!!! Seems you have forgotten how well Dawn 04 did for you!! You prievewed that MONTHS in advance and it was just a pale copy of a Romero movie. But now that you have the real thing, you seem reluctant? WTF? Someone pointed out earlier that Land may have been moved just so more emphasis could be put on Doom in October and I may be starting to believe that theory!!!

Amylynnbest
05-27-2005, 11:14 AM
There's going to be a Pittsburgh Premier the week of June 19th. Not sure of the exact date yet. I'll find out.

Quinn
05-27-2005, 01:40 PM
Just to let you know here is an article that contains a collection of fans/movie critics reaction and feelings about Romeros work.
http://www.horrorchannel.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=551&mode=nocomments&order=0&thold=0
Sorry about the lenghty address.
Have a good day
Quinn

preacher
05-27-2005, 02:40 PM
i really dont understand people liking the gore. ive always found it disgusting and unnecessary to the point that it detracts from the movies as opposed to adding to them

i can see why it would be shocking if youre 15 or something or you may like it when youre that age but when youre an adult it just seems immature.

Quinn
05-27-2005, 02:52 PM
Yeah, I kinda agree with preacher abit. Gore for me is not what makes a great Romero movie, I kinda enjoy his films on the Sam Peckinpah basis of a simple story that within it holds a great deal of social commentary and a crtique of the human condition. For example look at the movie Straw Dogs which is at both times a thriller and social critque much the same as Dawn was a horror/social critque. However like Peckinpah Romero often is more well known as displaying somewhat gritty/ gratoetous or realistic (depending on who you are) violence in their respective films. So what should be focused on more by fans? Kind of up to the person, but my views align more with the preach. For example you would have to give me some cash to be one of the extras that eats the nasty raw cow intestines or chicken liver, thats just nasty.
Have a good day
Quinn

Bad Zombie Night
05-27-2005, 04:26 PM
One more bit of news, here is a new pic

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movie-gallery/albums/userpics//lotd2505052.jpg

Have a good day
Quinn

Well, i cant see the pics.

You are fired!

It's not his fault Corgi... When you link directly to Movies Online, and some other sites, they sometimes block it. Here's the pic Quinn was referring to, plus another one they've added.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/ATZ%20Pics/LandOfTheDead26050501.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/ATZ%20Pics/LandOfTheDead26050502.jpg

Quinn
05-27-2005, 05:04 PM
Thanks for the assist BZN, much appreciated.
Have a good day
Quinn

Bad Zombie Night
05-28-2005, 01:10 AM
Thanks for the assist BZN, much appreciated.
Have a good day
Quinn

Glad I could be of service. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/salute.gif

Zombie Survivor
05-29-2005, 04:39 AM
Well zombies are rotten corpses, so they are gory. They eat people, so that's gory. Face it. Zombies and gore are always connected. For me a zombie movie must contain gore (little or much it doesn't matter) or else it isn't realistic.

Some_Day...
05-29-2005, 08:17 AM
Well zombies are rotten corpses, so they are gory. They eat people, so that's gory. Face it. Zombies and gore are always connected. For me a zombie movie must contain gore (little or much it doesn't matter) or else it isn't realistic.

I agree. The gore is what makes them 'real'. They've more than likely been mauled to death by other zombies before turning, hence the bloody body parts hanging off. And they're dead, they're bound to decay. And how could you show zombies feasting upon the living, realistically, without seeing their guts being ripped out. It's the whole fear factor. We hate that they are seemingly unstopable and could tear through us so easily.

jackskellington
05-29-2005, 10:14 AM
Here's me bitching about the trailer again...I've seen Bewitched previewed three times on TV just this morning and other times during the past week and it comes out on June 24th! What else comes out on that day? Hmmm...Guess we'll never know!!!

Some_Day...
05-29-2005, 04:33 PM
Has anyone even seen the trailer on at the cinema yet? If so...does it look any good?

jackskellington
05-29-2005, 04:44 PM
One of the guys I work with was at a narcotics class last week and went to see a couple of movies and he said that he saw a trailer for Land before one of them. It seems he either saw it before Sin City or the Amityville remake. I saw the latter as well but there was no Land preview on it. As I recall from my younger days, though, sometimes trailers are just sent out separate from any movie reel and can be attached to any film the theater manager decides to put it on so maybe that's how he saw it. It also could have been to shut me up though, 'cause everybody at work is pretty sick of hearing about Land. I thought they were gonna string me up when Dawn 04 was coming out but that was nothing compared to this!!

Jason Voorhees
05-29-2005, 08:00 PM
They showed a spot on tv last night during the Spurs vs. Suns game.http://www.allthingszombie.com/images/jvsmily.gif

jackskellington
05-29-2005, 08:34 PM
Kick Ass!!! Great to hear! Maybe they'll flood the market with previews in the next couple of weeks..

corgi37
05-29-2005, 09:00 PM
Not bad pics. Dont really give away alot, though i am sure i know exactly what part of the movie they are from. It's so exciting knowing GAR got to film what he intended.

I like the gore. Its a horror movie, for God sake, not a romantic comedy! Albeit, with GAR, a more intelligent horror movie than the average. Dont forget, he's a "genre" director. He once said he wanted to branch out a bit, but that aint gonna happen now at this stage of the game. Though that stupid Diamond Dead might have changed things a bit. Not really for the better, either!

The only sort of minor gripe i have is all the DEAD films end the same way. It's like "Ok, this film goes for 100 minutes, we've had some minor scares and cool dialogue, it is now 89 minutes - send in the zombies!"

Day in particular was guilty of this, as far as i was concerned. Very gratuitous, but never the less, enjoyable.

jackskellington
05-29-2005, 09:09 PM
Great point Corgi! I never really thought about it but they do all end that way!! Maybe this one will be different since it's not one particular structure that the survivors are hold up in. Plus theres more of them. Just have to wait and see!!! 25 days and a wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DarkTOFU
05-30-2005, 09:21 AM
I'm still not so hip on the smart, organized zombie idea. Running I can handle, but cooperative work? Whats next, guns and ladders for climbing the city walls?

preacher
05-30-2005, 11:39 AM
i think this ones going to be a typically paced horror movie.

i hope GAR's watched the new breed of zombie/horror movies and incorporated new/modern techniques while still keeping the GAR essense.

id hate to see a movie thats directed like its the 1970's or like it could have been directed by anyone

Bad Zombie Night
05-30-2005, 03:00 PM
I'm still not so hip on the smart, organized zombie idea. Running I can handle, but cooperative work? Whats next, guns and ladders for climbing the city walls?

I agree... When the Dawn 04' threads were hot, leading up to the film's debut, people were so eager to criticize the film. Now we have the thinking Zombies, and everyone is giving GAR a break. I'm pretty sure though that he'll find some way to make it work.

Some_Day...
05-30-2005, 03:07 PM
I'm still a bit dubious about the 'thinking' zombies. But when you think about it, it's a natural progression following on from Bub in Day. And it follows evolution..they were bound to progress and find new ways of gettin to their food. I'm still really looking forward to seeing this film, I think that GAR will do a great job.

preacher
05-30-2005, 03:25 PM
i dont think people are giving GAR a break on the thinking zombies because hes beyond criticism

Dawn 04 simply copied 28 days later with the running zombies. however the "zombies" in 28 days werent zombies they were just realy really pissed off people and would naturally run everywhere.

Gars built up this idea of thinking zombies throughout the last film. During Day he took many drawn out scenes detailing the conditioning needed for zombies to mentally grow.

zombies using guns is an incredibly sensational evolution in zombie "lore" but it stems from some very grounded, scientific and clinical scenes in Day if the Dead.

this isnt simply a "lets have zombies use guns and communicate" gimmick, in the way Dawn 04 had a "our zombies run" gimmick. Land is just a natural fruition of the seeds sown in his previous film

and as such people are reluctant to criticise when they see zombies doing things theyve never done before

Bad Zombie Night
05-30-2005, 03:26 PM
I'm still a bit dubious about the 'thinking' zombies. But when you think about it, it's a natural progression following on from Bub in Day. And it follows evolution..they were bound to progress and find new ways of gettin to their food.

I understand the whole "evolution" concept, but one can make several arguments against it also. For example, since the Zombies have been rotting for years now, how would their brains develop any further? Since new neuron pathways wouldn't be created because of their decaying state, wouldn't they just become dumber, and dumber? http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/nut.gif :zom1:

Some_Day...
05-30-2005, 04:01 PM
I understand the whole "evolution" concept, but one can make several arguments against it also. For example, since the Zombies have been rotting for years now, how would their brains develop any further? Since new neuron pathways wouldn't be created because of their decaying state, wouldn't they just become dumber, and dumber? http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/nut.gif :zom1:

Nature finds a way...who knows what effect the 'zombie-making disease' (that's just what I'm gonna call it ok!!) has on the brain at a later stage.

Jason Voorhees
05-30-2005, 04:11 PM
Saw another spot last night during the Heat vs. Pistons game.http://www.allthingszombie.com/images/jvsmily.gif

Jason Voorhees
05-30-2005, 06:51 PM
Here's a fan-made wallpaper I found using the film poster. Thought I would share it. Only downside is that the dimensions are 800x600.http://www.allthingszombie.com/images/jvsmily.gif

http://img175.echo.cx/img175/6876/landofthedead2oe.jpg

corgi37
05-30-2005, 09:52 PM
Dont get drawn into the scientific aspects. Dont try to blend reality into all of this.

What happens to the body after death is irrelevant to these films, and any other horror films for that matter.

Just sit back and enjoy. Dont over anal-ise.

Sheesh.

Tee-hee. Anal!

Bad Zombie Night
05-30-2005, 11:13 PM
Saw another spot last night during the Heat vs. Pistons game.http://www.allthingszombie.com/images/jvsmily.gif
Sadly, I haven't watched a single NBA playoff game this post season... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/cry3.gif



Btw... I like the LOTD wallpaper, but it loses something when I stretch it to fit my 20" monitor. :-(

Some_Day...
05-31-2005, 09:35 AM
Tee-hee. Anal!

Anal!!! That's rude...you're rude...I like you! :evil:

Amylynnbest
05-31-2005, 11:49 AM
The Pittsburgh Premier--

Land of the Dead Pittsburgh Premiere
June 22, 2005
Byham Theatre
TICKETS: 412-456-6666
(available after May 23)

Quinn
05-31-2005, 12:48 PM
Also check out moviesonline.ca and creature corner for info about contests were you can win Land merch (including a the official shirt which can be read about here http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_4237.html. Although to me it looks like he is tripping in slow motion more than shambling spookily)
Have a good day
Quinn

projectilevomit
05-31-2005, 01:19 PM
i donno bout you guys but i think the zombies look shitty...mabey its cause i LOVE the make up from day of the dead.the zombies look so ****in cool!....anywise i still have high hopes for this movie and im really excited to be able to see a romero film in the theraters but i dont know i still have this sinking feeling that its not gonna be as good as i would want it to be.this is just my opinion so dont get your panties in a bunch.

Vash
05-31-2005, 01:52 PM
I all fairness I like the old make-up alot better myself. But hey it's GAR film so I'm not going to bitch.

SICBELLY
05-31-2005, 02:21 PM
I also loved the makeup and effects from "Day", but I like the pics I've seen from "Land", too. Yeah, the look is a little different but I like it, nonetheless.
Unfortunately I haven't seen a single TV spot yet. Hell, I think I only saw one or two for "Shaun" and those were like two days after it had opened here in the US.

Zombie Survivor
05-31-2005, 02:36 PM
I agree the zombies look different, but it's still cool. The eyes are awesome.

corgi37
06-01-2005, 12:03 AM
The FX looks superb! It's 20 years later for God sake. Lots of changes in zombie ideas, the eyes being the main one. Number 9's make up FX look stunning!

Big Daddy looks mean and scary as hell. But, i still wish he only had 1 arm.

I do however, see some people's whinges that some of the zombies look like monsters of elves or whatever.

But, for the whole, what i have seen, looks awesome.

hatefuldisplay
06-01-2005, 01:43 AM
I avoided looking into this on purpose. I didn't want to ruin my surprise, much as I did with DOTD 04. Well, I saw the trailer before House of Wax. I must say, this one looks awesome. Just my two cents.

Kicken
06-01-2005, 08:37 AM
I don’t get how somebody cant like the new Zombie look, I think the LOTD zombies look awesome!

Dagnammit
06-01-2005, 08:53 AM
Here's a fan-made wallpaper I found using the film poster. Thought I would share it. Only downside is that the dimensions are 800x600.http://www.allthingszombie.com/images/jvsmily.gif



Haha, that's such a gay poster! :lol:

I've still not seen any trailers or TV spots here in the UK. Then again, the movie isn't released here until August. :cry:

Quinn
06-01-2005, 12:50 PM
Just a quick couple of bits of news:

*John Leqizomo will be on Late Show with Leno on the 9th
*Hopper will be on Conan on the 23d
*And if you head over to http://homepageofthedead.com/films/land/interviews_1.html, you can read an interview with Greg Nicatero and look at a couple of zombie make ups that I beleive were up but then had to be taken down or something.

Have a good day
Quinn
I just realized this thread is on page 80, that is quite an accomplishment.

evilzombie20
06-01-2005, 01:59 PM
Hey guys, I don't know about you but I wasn't too sure on how they colored the lettering on the poster. The red just didn't look right to me, so I did my own. Actually I made two, one with the yellowish writing and one with black and yellow.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/a_little_voice/LANDPOSTER.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/a_little_voice/LANDPOSTER2.jpg

Toodles!

preacher
06-01-2005, 02:12 PM
arh man, i thought the days of them staggering movie release dates were over. its insane for them to release it 2 months later in the uk

this films going to be on every market stall by mid june and the money that could have gone to the film company (and subsequently giving them confidence in GARs box office ability) will be going to some pirate

hopefully though well be getting some press reviews soon. unless they dont give any advance press screenings (ala star wars:episode one) which can only mean bad news

Divided Soul
06-01-2005, 02:15 PM
I like the shadowed lettering of the second one.... pretty cool!

goesaround
06-01-2005, 05:15 PM
I was watching 'Apocalypse Now Redo' on TNT and they kept showing a scene from Apocalypse now during the commercials. It was a scene when the army killer Martin Sheen( or the Brando character) in camoflauge face paint pops up out of the water eyes bulging with mayhem. It struck me like too much msg in a Chinese restarant where I saw a very similar scene...in the trailer for 'Land of The Dead' where Big Daddy I believe pops up out of the water!!! I'm telling you it so looked like the same scene. Both are metaphorial or alegorical tales(I hate the sound of that. It sounds like homework) But I'm sure of it. Or at least pretty sure. Am I right?

Bad Zombie Night
06-01-2005, 11:23 PM
Just a quick couple of bits of news:

*John Leqizomo will be on Late Show with Leno on the 9th
*Hopper will be on Conan on the 23d
*And if you head over to http://homepageofthedead.com/films/land/interviews_1.html, you can read an interview with Greg Nicatero and look at a couple of zombie make ups that I beleive were up but then had to be taken down or something.

Have a good day
Quinn
I just realized this thread is on page 80, that is quite an accomplishment.

Thanks Quinn for the info! I'm definitely going to watch Leno, and Conan those nights because they will most certainly show some new film clips from the movie. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Thumbsup.gif

corgi37
06-02-2005, 12:27 AM
We get Conan of cable and Letterman on free to air and cable, so i will be pencilling those dates into my busy diary.

Bad Zombie Night
06-02-2005, 12:47 AM
We should make sure that reminders are posted on this thread when the glorious day gets here... Heck, it might even slip my mind with my busy schedule, and such. :?

preacher
06-02-2005, 09:43 AM
first reviews up!!!

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20362

Dagnammit
06-02-2005, 09:48 AM
I clicked on the link over at AICN.com, but it says it's reached its bandwidth limit :cry:

Zombie Mark
06-02-2005, 10:15 AM
Not sure if this is news, but the "R" rating is official:

http://www.creature-corner.com/?type=news&id=637

Can't wait for the unrated director's cut dvd!

Tequila
06-02-2005, 11:04 AM
Yup the link at Aintitcool is down.But u got me :)
Here it is :


Land of the Dead
Non-Ruining / Non-Spoiler / Non-Revealing Film Appraisal

It's great to feel vindicated.

What am I talking about? The feeling I got after a recent viewing of a rough edit of LAND OF THE DEAD—George Romero's better-late-than-never entry in his ground-breaking zombie series.

I know that commenting on an uncompleted film is not altogether cool, and if I'd thought that LAND was not up to snuff I wouldn't even bother. HOWEVER, rough cut or not, missing footage and absent insert graphics not withstanding, I was overwhelmed so much by what I saw that I feel the need to come out and proclaim LAND OF THE DEAD as being one of the best genre movies I have ever seen. It is that good. Dare I say,it is that GREAT! In more ways than one, LAND is everything (and more) than what I expected.

So, why is it that I feel vindicated? Simple enough: When stacked against last year's DAWN remake, a film I have stated often enough as being just plain crap, LAND shines through as an example of solid, imaginative filmmaking. It truly is. LAND is inventive; LAND is smart; LAND has tension; LAND is bathed in atmosphere, LAND is populated by gripping characters; LAND possesses a tale that emerges from out of these characters and their situations; in a word: LAND has soul. What's more, LAND has feeding scenes galore! Ones unlike anything seen before.

Unlike the DAWN remake, LAND was obviously not made with an eye toward outguessing and appeasing studio pencil pushers and the content they believe sell tickets. It also doesn't pander to moral watch groups who point their holier-than-thou fingers at everything but their own cultish religions that in my opinion are the TRUE sources of unrest in the world. Instead, LAND says and does what it wants and lets the chips fall where they will. It also strikes me as having been made from a filmmaker's credo, with priority set at what will make for a fulfilling movie going experience. Once again, George Romero proves to be my filmmaker hero.

In some ways, too, LAND goes beyond even all this.

I'm talking about the zombies. They are unlike anything we have seen to date. They have developed into a new order. They have advanced (and if you consider "running" an advancement, I suggest you just go back to your sensory nullifying video games NOW). While I will never root for the zombies, I couldn't help but wonder if the ones here aren't in some way more "human" than the humans in control in LOTD.

Again, I don't want to reveal anything. Just let me say that the parallel to the US and its questionable "war on terrorism" is in full play and on display for those who want to see it. (And for those who don't, like all Romero "message movies", it is easy enough to ignore with plenty more things going on for you to sink your teeth into.)

And as misguided as the DAWN remake was to have almost no gore, LAND goes out of its way to deliver the goods (though how it will be edited down remains to be seen, and even if it is and gets reinserted later, we will get real additions, unlike the false promise of the "unrated" DAWN remake DVD—what a joke that was!). And not only THAT, the majority of the zombie victims are just the members of society who need a bit of zombie induced, flesh removal humility to teach them that in the scheme of things we are all equal.

Don't get me wrong, LAND is not a perfect film. Notably, there is one performance by a "legendary" actor that I found extremely lacking and somewhat on the phoned in end of the spectrum. But I'm not looking for or expecting a perfect film (as I wasn't with the DAWN remake). Despite it not being a perfect movie (and what film is?), it makes up for its flaws by being a movie that has been made with heart and by a filmmaker who understands and adheres to the CRAFT of filmmaking. Even in the shabby state I saw the film this came through. Because of this, I was mesmerized from start to finish. Not only that, LAND has stayed with me. It's with me now. When people ask what is wrong with cinema today, this is my reply: Films are no longer made in a way that they stay with you. They evaporate the moment you walk from the theater, this being good for business as you are soon ready for another quick cinematic fix. Not so with LAND.

So, how does LAND fit in with the series as a whole? In this writer's opinion, while NOTLD is a groundbreaker, I don't find it the be-all end-all as I do with DAWN. And though I like DAY, I can admit that it has many shortcomings. For me, LAND fits in between the peerless DAWN and the classic NIGHT. It is that good.

Furthermore, although twenty-years since the last entry, it miraculously feels part of the series in the way the new Star Wars movies can only dream.

Personally, I dislike films that try to be trendy, drawing inspiration from other current films. LAND is a breath of fresh air in that it feels both retro and modern. It tells its story without trying to persuade viewers that it's hip and for you to be hip too then you'd better get with the program and dig it (as with films such as Tales of Riddick and Bad Boys II). There are no "cutting edge" crane maneuvers or post production shenanigans like in unwatchable films of the S.W.A.T. variety. It is just solid, unobtrusive filmmaking from start to finish. Yet, even so, it is unmistakably Romero through and through.

That George was able to make a film of such high quality on a pathetic budget that I believe to be insulting for a director of his caliber is a testament to his talent. What he has done with fifteen million is proof enough that those obscene budgets many productions get these days are just that: obscene. I've read where people hope this film's success will bring George a budget of 50 million for his next film. Honestly, I hope it doesn't. While a bit more could have seen to it that the movie was shot in Pittsburgh, I for one don't want a hundred million dollar zombie film. That's not what they are about. Zombie films—and I'm talking about Romero helmed zombie films—are personal reflections of the world we live in made by a man who has fashioned a unique and fitting metaphor for the life into which we have all been thrust. LAND is this.

With all that said, I'm simply happy to report that LAND OF THE DEAD is a welcome and wholly satisfying entry in George Romero's zombie series. Now just go and see it!

He is absolutly right.I HAVE TO GO AND SEE IT!!!

preacher
06-02-2005, 12:59 PM
hmm always dubious about non-spoiler reviews that also reveal nothing whatsoever about the film. this is a very vague summarising of the film and could have easily been written by someone who hasnt seen it.

i think ill wait to see a review that has some actual meat to it. descriptions of scenes, ideas about the direction hes taken the film in and reviews on each particular actor etc

Quinn
06-02-2005, 12:59 PM
Thanks for the info Tequilla or should I say Chow Yun FAt!!!! (If you dont get the joke that is ok, at least I will :)) I have got to stop reading those replies at the Aint it cool site they are some of the most negative people and really kill my excitement about this film but then again it gets brought back up by the immenient realease date. Also as a side bit of news Zach Snyder will take over for the recently stepped down Matthew Vaughn (he directed Layer Cake and if you have not seen please do it is awsome) on Xmen 3. Which sounds like a good fit to me.
Have a good day
Quinn

Zombie Survivor
06-02-2005, 04:21 PM
Man... I want to see LotD! I'm so excited! I just can't hide it! :lol:

Tequila
06-02-2005, 05:36 PM
Quinn i do get the joke cause thats where i got the name from.Since i watched Hardboiled for the first time my online name is always tequila and it always will be :D
So if you ever encounter someone with that name in Enemy Territory,Counterstrike or in the Future Battlefield 2,then its me !!! :lol:
And dont worry about the Talkbacks at Aintitcool.They diss every,and i mean really every movie,so i mostly dont read them.

For the credibillity of the LOTD Review i can only rewrite what Harry at Aintitcool wrote.
"Its written by Norman England, Japan's Fango correspondant and long time Romero freak."

Quinn
06-02-2005, 06:14 PM
Yeah most of the talkback people are kinda wankers, I guess one of the new things there now is to be the first to post a talkback which is really dumb. Also I read today that Battlefield 2 went gold and should be out on the 21st of June. So thus far June has produced these excellent things: Land of the Dead, City of the Dead (Brian Keene), Terminal (also Briane Keene), and now Battle field 2. What a great month.
Have a good day
Quinn

corgi37
06-02-2005, 10:44 PM
Getting close, but i am so anxious.

Bad Zombie Night
06-02-2005, 10:47 PM
Only 22 more days to go! :evil:

Pain
06-02-2005, 10:48 PM
Think you'll last that long?

Apparently i have to wait until August :x

MADMAN
06-03-2005, 01:17 AM
Quinn i do get the joke cause thats where i got the name from.Since i watched Hardboiled for the first time my online name is always tequila and it always will be :D
So if you ever encounter someone with that name in Enemy Territory,Counterstrike or in the Future Battlefield 2,then its me !!! :lol:
And dont worry about the Talkbacks at Aintitcool.They diss every,and i mean really every movie,so i mostly dont read them.

For the credibillity of the LOTD Review i can only rewrite what Harry at Aintitcool wrote.
"Its written by Norman England, Japan's Fango correspondant and long time Romero freak."

Why not go with Mickey Mouse? :lol: Ever see the very badly dubbed version of "The Killer"? :)

corgi37
06-03-2005, 01:42 AM
Yeah, August 4 here in Oz. I aint fussed. I can pass the time by reading all the detailed reviews on this site of champions.

Oh, and i guess i can try to d/l a version of it off the net.

Tequila
06-03-2005, 03:04 AM
The official Website got updatet and finally it looks like a Website :)
http://www.landofthedeadmovie.net/htdocs/lotd.html

@Madman: I always try to get me the cantonese versions with subs,i cannot stand badly dubbed movies :) But hey even in the subs they are translated as Mickey and Dumbo.Doesnt bother me as long Chow kills baddies en masse :)

Bad Zombie Night
06-03-2005, 06:53 AM
The official Website got updatet and finally it looks like a Website :)
http://www.landofthedeadmovie.net/htdocs/lotd.html



Yeah, they've added some cool wallpaper, and other stuff to download, along with some ritzy flash intros.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/ATZ%20Pics/wallpaper.jpg

MADMAN
06-03-2005, 07:38 AM
The official Website got updatet and finally it looks like a Website :)
http://www.landofthedeadmovie.net/htdocs/lotd.html

@Madman: I always try to get me the cantonese versions with subs,i cannot stand badly dubbed movies :) But hey even in the subs they are translated as Mickey and Dumbo.Doesnt bother me as long Chow kills baddies en masse :)

I totally have an idea for a zombie movie with Chow Yun-Fat and Bruce Willis. That would be the ultimate team-up. Of course, having said that, some frigging studio exec who steals ideas from these boards is going to jack it.

Quinn
06-03-2005, 10:09 AM
The site is really quite cool. My favorite bits is the name of the flash game "Loot and Shoot" and the picture/story section where in the background you can see the zombies slowly pushing down the fence. Although I have to say the intro music and transition music kinda sound like the opening to Master of Puppets from Metalica. All in all the site got me mega amped and I think Universal did a first rate job, although aestically I liked the Dawn 04 site a smidge better. Finally as far as badly dubbed John Woo movies go, you cannot simply cannot beat the scene in the english dub of The Killer when Chow Yun Cat first meets the blind womens cat. The cat sounds like a guy off stage going MEOW. I laughed for like an hour.
Have a good day
Quinn

jackskellington
06-03-2005, 11:07 AM
Been out of town for a few days so I've had to play catch up...The new Land site is awesome! Asia Argento is f-ing incredible!!! I would probably go see this movie even if I wasn't a zombie fan as long as she is in that black patent leather outfit!! 3 MORE WEEKS!!!

Pain
06-03-2005, 11:12 AM
I get paid the day it's released over in the States, and being that in the UK we have to wait til August now, i might just get a flight over to watch it! :lol:

That would be one hell of an expensive cinema ticket!!

Guess i'll just wait :-(

Zombie Survivor
06-03-2005, 12:24 PM
The new LotD site is awesome with animated backgrounds... The sentance echoes in my head "This summer the land of the Living becomes the land of the Dead" :)

preacher
06-03-2005, 12:57 PM
still got that god awful soundtrack though

jackskellington
06-03-2005, 01:03 PM
Yeah, there needs to be something new, or perhaps old...If they can't come up with something new then let's go back to the Argento/Fulci soundtracks which were perfect for zombie movies. This whiny Linkin Park crap is tiresome. I guess they're looking to sell the soundtrack as well as tickets though so I can't blame them for wanting to make money! The soundtrack worked for ROTLD 1 because it matched the characters but I can't imagina that Dennis Hopper listens to Godsmack or whatever flash in the pan band they have on there.

preacher
06-03-2005, 01:40 PM
if he wants to give his film a "timeless" quality in that it could be representative of any era then using thrash metal for the soundtrack is going to place it firmly in the late 1990s early 2000's

Pain
06-03-2005, 01:43 PM
if he wants to give his film a "timeless" quality in that it could be representative of any era then using thrash metal for the soundtrack is going to date it firmly in the late 1990s early 2000's

Even though i like that sort of music, i have to agree with you there.

An orchestral soundtrack would much better suit me.

Quinn
06-03-2005, 02:18 PM
I have a feeling that the soundtrack on the site is just to get the average person excited about the movie and proably is not an accurate representation of the film score. Earlier in the thread the composers were named and after reading their filmographys you can kinda tell that for them to do nu-metal or something is proably not the case. My money is on it just being to get people amped about the project.
Have a good day
Quinn

preacher
06-03-2005, 02:24 PM
amazon.com lists the soundtrack as an "original score" so i guess its orchestral for the movie

SGT. DEATH
06-03-2005, 05:05 PM
The LOTD site is taking for ever to load,I could really do with broard band. :cry:

Kemper
06-03-2005, 06:06 PM
EVEN mr. romero realizes this may be his last good chance to make some scratch. More power to him.

MADMAN
06-03-2005, 07:03 PM
The site is really quite cool. My favorite bits is the name of the flash game "Loot and Shoot" and the picture/story section where in the background you can see the zombies slowly pushing down the fence. Although I have to say the intro music and transition music kinda sound like the opening to Master of Puppets from Metalica. All in all the site got me mega amped and I think Universal did a first rate job, although aestically I liked the Dawn 04 site a smidge better. Finally as far as badly dubbed John Woo movies go, you cannot simply cannot beat the scene in the english dub of The Killer when Chow Yun Cat first meets the blind womens cat. The cat sounds like a guy off stage going MEOW. I laughed for like an hour.
Have a good day
Quinn

You know, I never caught that... The things some people notice. :-P

Quinn
06-03-2005, 07:32 PM
Just a quick heads up, for those who have IFC you will want to check it out on Jun 12. Why? Because the behind the scenes documentary about Land will be shown. "Dream of the Dead" is the title of it and it is made by the guy who made "Document of the Dead" which has no real significance to me because I do not know what it is. Anyways here is clip from Dread central

Dream of the Dead premieres June 12th at 6:30pm and will air again on Wednesday, June 15th at 2:30am and 6:45pm. There are plenty more dates to catch it on the ol' boob tube. (Dread Central)

Have a good day
Quinn

Bad Zombie Night
06-03-2005, 08:29 PM
Thanks again for the info Quinn... I'm sure to mark that down on my calendar.

tarman
06-03-2005, 10:08 PM
the site looks awesome... but the music's so cheesy! i'm all about cheesy metal riffs, but i hope for the movie he went with a more atmospheric or prog rock approach! they did a great job with the site though! yay :)

Bad Zombie Night
06-04-2005, 02:04 AM
The only complaint I have about the site, is that some of the stuff I want to check out is not operational as of yet. I have an itching to play "Loot and Shoot." :evil:

Slumlord
06-04-2005, 02:51 AM
The site is looking good and you gotta admit zombies and heavy metal definetly work together.

tarman
06-04-2005, 03:14 AM
hmm you do have a good point. zombies + heavy metal = awesome. it all adds up!

i can't wait to play with the rest of the goodies once they get it up and running. i also can't wait until land gets some serious media play to get me through these 19 dreadful days.

zombie + heavy metal + asia argento = even more awesome.

MonsterHunter
06-04-2005, 03:54 AM
Even though i like that sort of music, i have to agree with you there.

An orchestral soundtrack would much better suit me.

:clap:

I totally agree! I like metal music, but I just feel it will date the movie a lot! Also Nu Metal is very one dimensional so its not suitable for creating atmospher and suspense. I hope they go for something timeless aka Night of Living Dead soundtrack, and I would mind if Fabio Frizzi was somehow involved.

MonsterHunter
06-04-2005, 03:57 AM
The site is looking good and you gotta admit zombies and heavy metal definetly work together.

Heavy metal is ok, but not Nu Metal!

corgi37
06-04-2005, 11:18 AM
I very confidently predict there will be no heavy, nu or even Christian metal music in a GAR zombie movie.

Oh, and for some on the prior page (aint being bothered to check who it was), thanks for the info on "Dream of the Dead".

For you info, "Document of the Dead" was a neat little doco made at the time of the making of Dawn. It features on the amazing multi-dvd set "THE ULTIMAT EDITION" that came out last year.

The same guy, Frumkes, was doing a doco on LAND as well. I will check out the "Dread Central".

Thanks.

Shredmonkey
06-04-2005, 02:01 PM
Well, along with the posters in my local cinema I've just seen my first Land Of The Dead billboard. Seems like they're giving it a healthy push over here then :) I even wetn and suffered House Of Wax thinking there might be a preview on there. naturally I missed the trailers.....DOH!

Slumlord
06-04-2005, 03:47 PM
But heavy metal and tons of zombies would give a more frantic feel. But, regardless I think there still will be heavy metal in the movie and we'll get the 'Official Soundtrack' with all the orchestra stuff and then a 'Music Inspired by Land of the Dead' with all the rest of the stuff including songs that weren't even in the movie. I've seen that happen alot... well I can hope anyway.

Bad Zombie Night
06-04-2005, 03:52 PM
Could you imagine if GAR was just screwing with everybody, and the movie had a lot of RAP & R&B in it. :evil:

Pain
06-04-2005, 06:14 PM
Could you imagine if GAR was just screwing with everybody, and the movie had a lot of RAP & R&B in it. :evil:

Let's not even contemplate that option! :scare:

jackskellington
06-04-2005, 08:19 PM
Just a quick heads up, for those who have IFC you will want to check it out on Jun 12. Why? Because the behind the scenes documentary about Land will be shown. "Dream of the Dead" is the title of it and it is made by the guy who made "Document of the Dead" which has no real significance to me because I do not know what it is. Anyways here is clip from Dread central

Dream of the Dead premieres June 12th at 6:30pm and will air again on Wednesday, June 15th at 2:30am and 6:45pm. There are plenty more dates to catch it on the ol' boob tube. (Dread Central)

Have a good day
Quinn


What is IFC? Does that stand for Independent Film Channel or something?

Bad Zombie Night
06-05-2005, 02:27 AM
What is IFC? Does that stand for Independent Film Channel or something?

Yes it does... Here's link to their web page with the show listing.

Link: IFC (http://www.ifctv.com/ifc/whatson?CAT0=45&MO=06&DA=12&YR=2005&TZ=ET&TB=4&DW=0&CLR=blue&BCLR=00A8EC&SID=53065)

Additional show times are also listed there. :mrgreen:

jackskellington
06-05-2005, 10:56 AM
Thanks BZN...I'll have to try and catch that, although I didn't realize that a Universal picture with a $15 million budget qualified as an "indie!" Guess it's just 'cause of his past movies, especially NOTLD, that he gets airtime on channels like that. Also, I caught a couple of previews during the Pistons/Heat game last night. 18 DAYS AND A WAKE UP!!!

Bad Zombie Night
06-05-2005, 11:01 AM
Apparently I got to watch more of the NBA playoffs to see these TV spots.

jackskellington
06-05-2005, 11:18 AM
Yeah, they're pushing the Hell out of Cinderella Man, but since that's finally hit the theaters they've got nothing left to plug but Land so we should be seeing alot of it on TV during the next couple of weeks!!

corgi37
06-05-2005, 11:01 PM
Something tells me that people who find Cindarella Man a perfect nights entertainment, wont really be "LAND OF THE DEAD" fans.

But, once the opening of Cindarella is over, and with the t.v. appearances this coming week of 2 of the stars, it looks like its all systems go for LAND promotions.

Nothing at all here in Oz. I dont even know what it will be rated here. I'm hoping for a no-holds-barred "R" rating.

That will keep the annoying teenies and their high pitched screaming bitches from ruining the film.

Soldat
06-06-2005, 04:30 AM
Well i dont know about you guys, but i watched Cinderella Man and I adored it. Its an amazing movie, very moving. I also happen to be the biggest zombie fan that i know...and Land is definately my most anticipated film of the summer. Guess i have broad tastes ^-^

SGT. DEATH
06-06-2005, 10:05 AM
Well people Land has been awarded Scariest film of the year by nuts magazine but theres no new news or pics yet.In case you cant get your hands on this mag there site is found at www.nuts.co.uk and they cover quite a few of this summers movies. :rock:

Bad Zombie Night
06-06-2005, 11:04 AM
Well people Land has been awarded Scariest film of the year by nuts magazine but theres no new news or pics yet.

Hey, at least that's something to go on. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Thumbsup.gif


Just 18 More Days to Land. :zom1:

preacher
06-06-2005, 11:51 AM
i dont believe nuts magazines seen it for a second.

Bad Zombie Night
06-06-2005, 12:29 PM
i dont believe nuts magazines seen it for a second.

Hmmmm.... What makes you say that? :think:

preacher
06-06-2005, 12:48 PM
because there arent any online reviews at all. Empire online hasnt reviewed it, variety hasnt a review, there arent even any reviews on rotten tomatoes. the only review weve seen is from a japanese guy who saw a rough cut

Yet some 2 bit lads mag that was written last week has a world exclusive?

Hmmm, i would say its a preview or theyre bluffing that theyve seen it

Bad Zombie Night
06-06-2005, 02:07 PM
because there arent any online reviews at all. Empire online hasnt reviewed it, variety hasnt a review, there arent even any reviews on rotten tomatoes. the only review weve seen is from a japanese guy who saw a rough cut

Yet some 2 bit lads mag that was written last week has a world exclusive?

Hmmm, i would say its a preview or theyre bluffing that theyve seen it
I guess that makes sense... :-|


New LOTD pic released today.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/ATZ%20Pics/LotD060605.jpg


LOL! A Zombie butcher looking for meat?


I'd say the softball game scheduled for today is cancelled.

goesaround
06-06-2005, 07:42 PM
The woman in the picture is old school zombie. It looks like she got bit in the face...eeeee. The butcher is that new look I'm less crazy about. While I was re-listening to the Romero interview I looked at Romero's script for Resident Evil. Wow! There was one description of how this guy could not until this moment see the humanity in the zombie and now it took him too long to see the killer in the zombie. Right before he is eaten up. Brilliant as well as the eagles fear of the fish. Wow. I wonder, any hope at all of Romero doing Resident Evil with his script and his humanity and his fear??!! Doubtful but you never know..