Official Land of the Dead Thread

[corgi37]

They are great shots. They made me laugh. Even through the make-up, you can tell Jennifer Baxter is lovely. But, what did they do to her cheek? Did they "putty" it up, or doctor the pics to hide the gash?

[Bad Zombie Night]

Box Office Update:

Land this past weekend took in a paltry $94K, bringing it US total up to $20,433,940 now... There has been no overseas update since the last time, which is still holding at $1,529,553... That brings its Worldwide total to $21,963,493.

[Darth Erroneous]

I guess that means we'll see LOTD on DVD much sooner than expected.

[Lefty44709]

Has GAR made any comments since the movie was released?... I wonder what his view is on the whole thing.

It would be interesting to know if he has received the fans opinions on this movie, and what his reaction to the general sense of dissapointment would be.

[Darth Erroneous]

Is there any way that GAR could've made a film that lived up to everyone's expectations? Given the fact that so many of us were eagerly awaiting GAR's contribution to the zombie renaissance in addition to the other films that came before it (DOTD 04, 28 Days later, etc.) I feel that many created unsurpassable expectations about the film. I for one am guilty of this.

[jackskellington]

Is there any way that GAR could've made a film that lived up to everyone's expectations? Given the fact that so many of us were eagerly awaiting GAR's contribution to the zombie renaissance in addition to the other films that came before it (DOTD 04, 28 Days later, etc.) I feel that many created unsurpassable expectations about the film. I for one am guilty of this.

I don't think anyone expected too much at all. I, for one, just wanted a zombie movie with the same feel that he's had in all of them which is not expecting too much. Also, the story was so simple and weak. Surely he could've come up with a better one or, if not, he could've used one of the hundreds or even thousands that I'm sure have been sent to him over the years.

[zombiekilling101]

Is there any way that GAR could've made a film that lived up to everyone's expectations? Given the fact that so many of us were eagerly awaiting GAR's contribution to the zombie renaissance in addition to the other films that came before it (DOTD 04, 28 Days later, etc.) I feel that many created unsurpassable expectations about the film. I for one am guilty of this.

nope...

i liked it alot, so thats 1 success for him. as soon as all the hype dies down, and another big zombie project comes out, the criticism will shift to that, and people will like Land alot better, guaranteed

[Darth Erroneous]

nope...

Simple, to the point...I laughed my @$$ off when I read that. :lol:

[zombiekilling101]

Simple, to the point...I laughed my @$$ off when I read that. :lol:

Im glad I ammuse you:)

I wasnt pleased all the way, but who gives a shit, it was good to me.

[Darth Erroneous]

It doesn't take much to amus-Oh man! A chicken! :lol:

[zombiekilling101]

It doesn't take much to amus-Oh man! A chicken! :lol:

i really have no idea what you mean:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Darth Erroneous]

i really have no idea what you mean:lol: :lol: :lol:
Many people don't...how about that Land of the Dead? Pretty good but not as good as Dawn!

[zombiekilling101]

there 2 wayyy different movies, but I like Dawn better just becasue.

[Darth Erroneous]

Agreed. Just like apples and oranges.

[zombiekilling101]

Agreed. Just like apples and oranges.

dawn is apples and land is oranges for me. Love em both, prefer an apple:loon:

[Darth Erroneous]

Dawn, to me, is more of a story where they are painfully aware of the zombie problem, but try to live as best as possible. It's more of a tragedy story. Land is more of a story where they don't give a rats @$$ about the zombies and aren't afraid to flaunt it. I really didn't feel any sympathy for the characters like I did in Dawn. Land is very action oriented, but of course, that's what many people like nowadays.

[corgi37]

Basically, i feel alot of people expected a re-hash of Dawn, with a touch of Day. Its what they wanted. Its that particular aspect of the outbreak that appeals. Hell, look at most of the indy films. Some of which, are made/being made by people here, on this charming site. Most are so "DAWN ERA", its amazing.

What they got was some thing brand new, with new ideas, set-ups, reactions - and many of you didnt get it, or like it. The world aint collapsing, its collapsed. The fear has gone. The dread is over. Its carrying on, ignoring the problem.

And, thats fair enough if people dont like it. I dont give a stuff anymore about the mindlesss bleatings.

I adored it from beginning to end.

But, am really looking forward to its premiere tomorrow here in Oz. Cant wait to watch it on a big screen, with my buddies.

And, i 100% agree that this film will be much more appreciated in coming years.

[zombiekilling101]

i agree 100% corgi

[Bad Zombie Night]

And, i 100% agree that this film will be much more appreciated in coming years.
I don't see how... Day of the Dead received more, and more acceptance over time, because it had many likable elements that Land does not have... Land also has some things they would have rather left out of the film all together, or at least toned them down a bit... Saying that people will embrace this film over the years, and eventually turn it into a semi-cult classic, is like trying to predict weather 6 months from now.

[corgi37]

Oh man, that is just a weird post. I mean, totally odd. Day was a flop. A major disaster, both commercially, critically and probably even artistically. Why it is loved now is because the distance of time. It was the last GAR zombie movie (until now). It had amazing FX and gore that was not seen prior or after. It was made at the height of Reagan, and rightly or wrongly, people at the time loathed it. Yet now, mainly by people not even frigging born when it was made, it is seen as righteous. The gore is just so obviously tacked on to give a bit of "oomph" to a story ruined by budget cuts and forced re-writes.

What are its outstanding qualities?
Script? - You gotta be kidding. It is a pale shadow of what of what it should be - AND PLEASE NOTE - If Day's original script was filmed, boy, ya'll would have hated that too, cause much of LOTD is in it!
Acting? - See above. If any one tells me Richard Liberty is acting, i will laugh so hard! Pilato - hammy but good. Lori - Personality of wood. And they are the bloody leads!
Pace? - Excruciatingly slow & talky. That has been the #1 complaint against it since day 1. And that was due to the budget (mainly).
Ending? - How can anyone, ANYONE, justify that lame ending. In fact, it doesnt have an ending. Bag LOTD's ending all you like, but at least admit Day's is a crap-fest of more magnitude. Come on, running to a chopper, with a hundred fold horde approaching. Who will get there first? Is SAvini gonna repeat his famous Dawn helicopter head-slice, but by a hundred fold?

No - it was a bloody dream!!!!

Just as LOTd's ending doesnt satisfy alot of the ultra-gore-hounds, well, ya gotta be fair. Is Day good enough?

All this reminds me of a Axle Rose t-shirt he used to wear. It had a drawing of a crucified Jesus with the saying "Kill your idol" underneath it. I see this all the time. From long-time Stones fans who cant get over the fact it aint 1971 anymore, to long-term WHO fans, who still wish they were mods, to Star Wars fans, to Star Trek fans, Aussie Rules footy fans who wish it was all still bashing and king-hitting behind play - and now, GAR fans, who just want another Night/Dawn hybrid.

I find it really bizarre.

Day was absolutely derided by all. Bub in particular, was loathed! Despite (i think) a brilliant performance. I know al this, cause i was 22 when it came out.

I'm no saying LOTD is perfect. But i do think some of the critisms are way off the mark - yet i expected it, cause it is a GAR film. Dont get me wrong with this next comment, but...

..how come all the low-budget, shameless "inspired by and in the tradition of DAWN" indie flicks get such an easy run? I mean, its just blatant rip-offs. Many are made by some posters here. That DJ guy has just made one. All doing the same old thing. All doing what has been done before, some so low budget and badly acted (yet forgiven) with crap FX and story, yet they are lauded.

But, GAR gives you something new and a tad different, and the whole sky is falling! I swear it seems most of his "fans" just want him to remake Dawn again, and again, and again.

In closing, yes, i do believe LOTD will be appreciated in years to come. It doesnt give the many of "todays" fans what they want. But, from many of the negative posts on this thread, i cant figure out what the hell the "fans" wanted. If it was a indie film, or a cheapie cash in, or Zack Snyder follow up to Dawn04, ya'll be lauding it to death.

And then awaiting GAR to come back and make his contribution. I know, i saw it when Dawn04 came out. People either hatiing it outright, or saying "Its ok, but wait until GAR makes a zombie movie.

Then it was "Dawn sux, wait until LOTD comes out!"

Now i read on many boards "Dawn04 rox and shambling zombies suck, man!"

The even more odd thing is this:

Most of us read the script. We were eagerly anticipating it. We were thrilled that most of what we read was actually being filmed. Most of us knew exactly what was to come. But, when it came, most of you went "WTF is this?"

Ok, there's my rant (again). Off to IMDB to kick some pimply teen LOTD hating narssissitic kids ass.

Or, is it arse?

P.S. Remember me in 5-10 years time when you try to convert your kid/girlfriend/wife/boyfriend onto LOTD, saying how cool it is.

[Dagnammit]

I'm with you 100-per-f'kin'-cent, Corgi! Great post! While I have a few very minor qualms with the things you said about Day of the Dead, the gist of your post perfectly encapsulates everything I had been itching to put across but couldn't be bothered to adapt into words.

I salute you, man! :drinking:

[Slas[-[er]

P.S. Remember me in 5-10 years time when you try to convert your kid/girlfriend/wife/boyfriend onto LOTD, saying how cool it is.


...BHWHAHHAHA dont think so ...5-10 years...i saw DOTD for the first time 6 months ago ...and I COuld immediately appreciate its merits as a cool zombie movie as im sure many others could....because it is a cool zombie movie Corgy, it has many cool elements for example that makes it so...the character Rhodes for example is wicked bad ass in that film one of my favourite ever and i dont need 5-10 years of retrospect to appreciate that...nor do i need 5-10 years to conclude that LOTD how do you say SUX!#@!!....its just another dumb hollywood movie...another one to throw in the heap of dumb movies this summer...it has no redeeming qualities that i can see whatsover at all to appreciate over time...unless ive missed something plz enlighten me

[Rookie]

Wait, if you don't like the movie? Why do you feel the need to come back time and time agian to bash it?

We get it, move on. It's getting rather annoying.

[Brody]

I am one of those few people apparently that totall dug and appreciated DAY from the beginning. It is not something that 'Grew on me".

My problem with LAND is it's lack of production value. And not becasue of a $15 Million budget. This isn't something I am going to look up at in 5 or 10 years and suddenly go "Wow." This is not a classic. This is crap. This is a let down and a poorly made film. It felt like a time machine took us back to the filmmaking style of the 80's.

Corgi you seem bent on this issue. Can we just not like it and accept it as is? It's not going to suddenly be a good movie.

What did I want?

I wanted a film that felt like LAND OF THE DEAD. Not, here are 12 zombie extras of the dead. Instead we're given about a much Zombie as you could put in a sitcom. When I think LAND of the dead I think the dead have taken over the landscape. When I think of people barricading a city off I think the outside might just be a ****ed place to be.

The plot was just not making any sense whatsoever. No other buildings inthe entire city are being used? People are living like bums on the streets with 50 other skyscrapers and buildings? People go out to get the rich people stuff but not their own shit?

Come on. Stop it already.

The zombies breaking into the Green and attacking the people is some of the most absurd sequences I have seen. I was embarrassed sitting there; it was fake and implausible looking; people are sitting at the CAFE chairs and suddenly Zombies are jumping on them knocking tables over? It was bizarre and about as technically proficient as Dawn 78.

The characters sucked; ZERO DEPTH whatsoever and Hopper was just so miscast and out of place. Just bad bad bad.

The set's looked like 'SETS'. It had zero world appeal. I never felt one time like i was 'In this world'. It felt so contrived and so staged.

The Dead Reckoning was a joke. GPS and Missle Launchers and just absurd. Comical almost.

GAR gave us nothing new. I keep hearing this and Im asking 'What was new about this?' This was nothing more than GAR's pathetic attempt to stay in the game. He missed. This was IT and it fails miserably.

Speak for yourself regarding DAY. I saw it in the theatre and have always loved it for what it was. Baggin DAY to make yourself feel better about LAND is just a ridiculous tactic.

I'm with Slasher on this; it just is not a good movie. IN fact it is painfully bad.

And Rookie? Would you feel better if all the naysayers left so the ones who liked LAND can all sit around and have a circle jerk? I'll keep saying it sucks as long as people keep saying it was good (with respect of others opinions of course)

In closing? What a bomb. No. Not in 5 years nor not in 20. This film sucks.

[Slas[-[er]

The zombies breaking into the Green and attacking the people is some of the most absurd sequences I have seen. I was embarrassed sitting there; it was fake and implausible looking; people are sitting at the CAFE chairs and suddenly Zombies are jumping on them knocking tables over? It was bizarre and about as technically proficient as Dawn 78.


..YAh i remember that scene lol...ridiculous...i too felt personally embarrassed at the theater watching that, mortified, i remember sliding underneath my chair to hide then sneekin out the back of the theatre so as not to be seen by the public

[Bad Zombie Night]

Well put OP! http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/ThumbsupYellow.gif

Although a never said Land was a total bust, it was a major disappointment in my opinion. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/cry3.gif

I expected much more out good ol' George.



I'm with you 100-per-f'kin'-cent, Corgi! Great post! While I have a few very minor qualms with the things you said about Day of the Dead

LOL! :lol:
Do you have any f'kin' idea about what you just said Dag? :loon:

Explain to everyone here, how you agree with everything corgi said, "100-per-f'kin'-cent," when you have a few minor qualms about what he said about Day?

You math just doesn't add up my friend.

[zombiekilling101]

dagnammit? math:loon:

:) :) :)

I dont get it, on the poll, the majority thought it was fantastic, yet theres only like 5 people here, including myeslf, that try to defend it.

[Bad Zombie Night]

dagnammit? math:loon:

:) :) :)

I dont get it, on the poll, the majority thought it was fantastic, yet theres only like 5 people here, including myeslf, that try to defend it.

Actually when the poll first open, many people jumped on the ban wagon, and voted it as fantastic... I don't even think some of them had seen it yet, but they voted anyway, and gave it the highest rating... Slowly as time went on, the voting when south, and people rated the film as something less than fantastic.

[zombiekilling101]

Actually when the poll first open, many people jumped on the ban wagon, and voted it as fantastic... I don't even think some of them had seen it yet, but they voted anyway, and gave it the highest rating... Slowly as time went on, the voting when south, and people rated the film as something less than fantastic.

yeah that sucks. damn bandwagon, this is the same thing that happened with th angels when they one the world series. I liked them when they suckes, and I like Land

[eardrumbuz]

I dont get it, on the poll, the majority thought it was fantastic, yet theres only like 5 people here, including myeslf, that try to defend it.

well i liked it. it's not my favorite zombie movie, or even one of my favorite horror movies, but i sure enjoyed seeing it in the theater. i just kinda got tired of repeating here what i liked and didn't like about it. this thread seems to go around in circles, so i've been putting more effort into posting on other threads, like taking turns naming my favorite bands in alphabetical order. :)

anyway, land of the dead has great entertainment value. it's too short and has a stupid hollywood ending (actually more like a lighthearted ending to a tv series episode), but it's great fun. i can go on and on nitpicking about what could've been done differently, and although i think there was much room for improvement, that doesn't change the fact that i liked this movie a lot.

[tarman]

you know corgi, i've been wasting my breath for months trying to say what you just summed up in one post! :clap:

we'll at least have the satisfaction of being down with LOTD since day one :)

[Slumlord]

I dont get it, on the poll, the majority thought it was fantastic, yet theres only like 5 people here, including myeslf, that try to defend it.

Yeah, I noticed that also. I liked the movie too, but, 'to each thier own' I suppose.

[Slas[-[er]

....listening to posters praise LOTD...."I really like this fim its GREATTTT!"... i just have this uncontrollable desire to shout U........FKING#@I$@!! RETQAARRRDDDDDZZZDDEADUHHHDYADYADYAHHAHHAHA&@*#$@!@@!!!!!!!!!!!... - but i won't because that would be very inconsiderate and unproductive and disprespectful to the board community, so i will show restraint and maturity and not post that...so ur welcome and i applaud myself for showing such restraint ..so thx and have a nice day!

[corgi37]

Rating in Melbourne's largest paper - 1 1/2 - 5.

But, man, i just gotta slap my head. Who are these faggy critics? The guy in the "SUN" is a cardigan wearing goofball. LOTD has "oceans of gore", is "just plain boring". Yet War of the Worlds got 5 stars, so i guess we know where he is coming from. His fave scene was Hopper's "zombies freak me..." scene, then followed by the big nose pick. I aint kidding, he said that!

Just now on radio - 5 - 5. But, oh wow, listen to what the jerk said. This guy is a professional paid critic! LOTD is Romero's 6th zombie film. I mean, shit, cant the idiot even look up IMDB or something? He said Cholo took Dead Reckoning to "Ram the city"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He liked Hopper & Baker. He and the co-host were giggling about the story-line (which IS pretty funny i guess) and the co-host (a 63 year old faded tv host) said he would not see it. In fact, unless a film is French, he wont see it. The crtitic basically said its a good no-brainer, if you like gore.

One thing that will help LOTD is that there is just NOTHING in the cinemas at the moment. The block-busters have come and gone, others are flops, and there is hardly any Aussie movies to support. But, best of all, there is a price war going on between the cinema chains. So, all tickets are $8.50. Good news for LOTD, particularly for this week-end.

Thanks to the guys who support.

Respect to those who dont.

Just remember what i said.

"Kill your idols".

It's really happening.

Oh, 1 thing of note. My learned rival outlandpictures points to the rather funny "cafe attack".

Yet no one wonders why the zombie in DAWN (who attacks Roger & Rog jams the screwdriver into its ear) has just been standing still like a mannequin since the outbreak began.

Think about it children. Think about it. My session for LOTD is 7.10 tonight. Cant frigging wait for the big screen experience.

Love to all!

[Willy]

just saw it. liked it, wouldnt say its one of the best purely because what i like in a zombie movie is for it to be just dumb zombies and the ppl have a cool scenario to overcome, which obviously didnt happen this time with our bowser toting "fill her up sir?" zombie. all in all 8/10 :D

[Bad Zombie Night]

Rating in Melbourne's largest paper - 1 1/2 - 5.

But, man, i just gotta slap my head. Who are these faggy critics? The guy in the "SUN" is a cardigan wearing goofball. LOTD has "oceans of gore", is "just plain boring". Yet War of the Worlds got 5 stars, so i guess we know where he is coming from. His fave scene was Hopper's "zombies freak me..." scene, then followed by the big nose pick. I aint kidding, he said that!

Just now on radio - 5 - 5. But, oh wow, listen to what the jerk said. This guy is a professional paid critic! LOTD is Romero's 6th zombie film. I mean, shit, cant the idiot even look up IMDB or something? He said Cholo took Dead Reckoning to "Ram the city"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMFAO!
corgi... I was going to make a detailed reply (comment for comment) dissecting your last post, but why bother... This takes the cake! hehehe! :lol:


Oh I guess I can't resist the urge... I have to reply to at least one of your comments. :evil:


Oh man, that is just a weird post. I mean, totally odd. Day was a flop.
Day was a flop?
Corgi, you have a propensity for exaggerating the facts here... Did it do well? No... Movies at the box office are supposed to make millions, upon millions of dollars once their costs are covered... Day didn't exactly do that... They broke about even, or came in a little short at the box office (when you take into consideration the marketing costs) in the same way Land did... So I take it that you're calling Land a flop also?
Project the figures below for Day, and you'll they're about the same as Land, or even a bit greater.

Day of the Dead

Production Budget: $3.5M

Domestic (US): $5M

Land of the Dead

Production Budget: $15M

Domestic (US): $20.5M

Source: boxofficemojo.com

[Dagnammit]

LOL! :lol:
Do you have any f'kin' idea about what you just said Dag? :loon:

Explain to everyone here, how you agree with everything corgi said, "100-per-f'kin'-cent," when you have a few minor qualms about what he said about Day?

You math just doesn't add up my friend.

I said I was with him 100%. Being "with" someone is like standing behind them, holding their jacket in a fight, cheering them on; it doesn't mean you agree with every word they say, it is merely a statement of solidarity (in this case, with him on the issue of Land of the Dead). Two different concepts.

Maybe I'm just in a bad mood right now, but I really don't think there was any need to be so quick to try and find fault in my post simply because I was expressing an opinion contrary to yours. I mean, not everyone around here is too hot with their spelling, but you don't see me laughing at them and calling them out on it, as much as I would like to sometimes. So why the nit-picking?

[Bad Zombie Night]

So why the nit-picking?
I wasn't 'nit-picking' as you call it... I was simply pointing out that something you said didn't make sense, and for the record, where was I correcting your spelling? I never pointed out spelling errors with anyone in past, so why am I going to start now?

[Dagnammit]

I wasn't 'nit-picking' as you call it... I was simply pointing out that something you said didn't make sense, and for the record, where was I correcting your spelling? I never pointed out spelling errors with anyone in past, so why am I going to start now?

I didn't say you were correcting my spelling. What I meant was, there have been many occasions when I have seen errors made on here (spelling being the one example I used, but could equally have been grammer/factual/logical errors) but have resisted the urge to call them out because I understood the general gist of what was meant and because being hypercritical is not cool.

Yeah, I'm being petulant... ignore me.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Yeah, I'm being petulant... ignore me.
Ok then.... Understood. :)

Now let's get back to bashing, or applauding Land of the Dead. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/bnz_smiley.gif

[Brody]

Land sucked balls.


:clap:

[Bad Zombie Night]

Land sucked balls.


:clap:
Alright OP, you need a elaborate a little bit better than that... with all do seriousness.

[Brody]

Sorry; just having some fun. I still am very very let down though. I mean it sucked hard and I have given a ton of reasons why but I didnt want it to suck. It ranks pretty much last in the line of Zombie films for me

..and I'm not happy about it as Night of the Living Dead and Day of the Dead are 2 of my favorites of all time.

[zombiekilling101]

Land sucked balls.


:clap:

your my rival.......just on this thread though:)

Land ROCKS!

I was thinking of when that kid thought charlie was a zombie, forgot what charlie said but it was great.

[Dark Shogun]

Hi everyone, this is my first post here.

I saw LotD last night.

1. 'Big Daddy' bothered me. He was too non-zombie like. When zombies evolve hey are no longer zombies, they become...different, no longer the zombies we know and love.

2. Making peace with the zombies!? We don't make peace with zombies! They're the enemy, kill them! So what happens now? Are the zombies going to make some sort of zombie nation, with which we will trade and have diplomatic relations? Will the new nation of zombies have a seat at the UN? The country will be called Zombiestan and Big Daddy will be president, ha ha ha!

3. The zombies look so cool! They looked really grotesque. I prefer the slow shambleing type zombie to the athletic type zombie. It makes them more fun to kill and off-sets their advantages of not reacting to pain and their gernel hardyness. Lots of gory flesh eating too.

4. I like the way people had forgotten about the zombies, and sociewty had moved on. Great concept. I'd love to see something relating how the global community copes with a planet wide zombie outbreak. How if effects international relations and so forth.

Overall, I liked the film. The zombies are well potrayed, lots of zombie killing action not too over-the-top, concept of city surounded by zombies was good too. Dindn't much like the zombie evolution thing but hey who am I to judge, don't even listen too me.

That's all for now, bye.

[jackskellington]

...concept of city surounded by zombies was good too...

Saw alot of zombies crossing the river, but it seemed like most of the time it was just a small band of about 10 or 20 of them working their way towards the city.

[Rookie]

Sorry; just having some fun. I still am very very let down though. I mean it sucked hard and I have given a ton of reasons why but I didnt want it to suck. It ranks pretty much last in the line of Zombie films for me

..and I'm not happy about it as Night of the Living Dead and Day of the Dead are 2 of my favorites of all time.


That means alot being that there never was a day of the dead two... :roll:

[Dark Shogun]

Sorry, when I said "city suounded by zombies" I ment "city soriunded by zombie dominated land" hence the title LotD.

The zombie swimming was a bit strange too. They just jumped in the water an discovered they could swim. "Hey, this isn't so bad". Had a zombie never accidently fallen in the water before? I mean they're not smart, it's likely that one would just walk blindle toward the city and fall in the river.

Also the clown zombie scared the hell out of my wife.

[Rookie]

they didn't swim... I think they just walked.

[Slas[-[er]

That means alot being that there never was a day of the dead two... :roll:

...yah your absolutely right just throw it in with Citizen Kane and Gone with the Wind

[Slas[-[er]

Also the clown zombie scared the hell out of my wife.

..your "wife" what the hecks a 12 year old doing with a wife

[corgi37]

I think he means his school wife. You know, they swap arm bands and suddenly he has an old lady, and they are married. Gotta be careful though, you can get pregnant from kissing!

Ok, saw it on the big screen last night. Cinema ½ full. I don’t want to get into a pissing contest with the nay-sayers (again!), but I just gotta say.

You people just don’t know what you are talking about. Sorry. It did have faults, flaws and gaffes, but on the whole, I loved every minute of it. The amount of gore was incredible. Christ knows what a unrated version will be like.

I certainly missed a lot from watching a downloaded version from the net. Actually, it was like watching the film for the first time.

I love the way GAR didn’t even offer any explanation. It’s taken for granted we, and the movie people, know what has gone on.

A couple of troubling things:

I liked the scenes of the rich dining and shopping, and would have liked to have seen more. Just a quick few scenes of them living fabulously, while the good citizens suffer. GAR might have thought that was to obvious and corny, too much of “Oh, aint they so rich and bad, and aint they so poor and good”, and I sort of agree too, but just personally, I would have liked a bit of comparison.

I didn’t really get a sense of fear or dread once the undead invaded the city. I can understand GAR’s intention to make it a surprise attack against a lazy people, thinking they could never be harmed, but a touch more panic would have been cool. However, the scene where the people are trapped against the electric fence was pure, how do I say this…art. It was one of GAR’s best ever scenes. The guy in the suit saying “we’re ****ed”, the dead coming into scene, approaching the trapped. People screaming. Then, the “sky flowers” come up, the business man is like “Thank God”, the zombies freeze, stare up into the sky…and remember what Big Daddy showed them. Not to be hypnotised. The look of the zombies as they scowled at the living, no longer fascinated by the pretty lights, was just…superb.

Where did the people live? Sleep? I guess it wasn’t really relevant to the story, but I think it would have been nice to establish exactly where the have-nots resided. Like, did they live on the streets, I mean, exactly on the concrete? Or, did they squat in one of the umpteen high rises? What I am saying is, in a perfect world with unlimited budget and screen time, I would have liked to have seen how the people lived. I liked the touch of armed guards and checkpoints keeping them out though. Very Guantanamo Bay!

Mouse – Now really, I must whine about this scene. It should have been a suspence riddled scene. In the script, it was. There was no skate board. And, I mean, I really have to complain about the character wearing head phones. I mean, nah. Come on! Hahaha. To me, I would have just had the kid sitting there. Shaking and shivering. Holding that damn rat. Every little rattle, squeak, creak is amplified. The kid is getting more frightened every second. GAR could have amped up the tension to breaking point. Then, just the barest hint of a thud. Was it a foot step out on the dock? Nothing. The sound of a fly buzzing. Close up of the rats face. Another thud! The kid is startled. Cold sweat beads on his forehead. Close up of his eyes – wide with terror. Silence. Mouse whispers to the rat. Then, from side on, we see the silhouetted head of a ghoul against the window pane. The kid don’t see it yet. The shadow stops. We can see it lift its head up. It is sniffing. It begins to turn to the window. Just then, Mouse see the shape, jumps up, staggers, falls into the chains, gets up and blasts away, taking the thing down. Silence. Close up of the rat, now sniffing a empty shell. Mouse approaches the shattered window. Slowly the camera comes to it. Slowly. Silence. The camera comes to the ledge. There is a destroyed zombie. Mouse looks out. Then, angle is reversed, and we are looking at Mouse. It is NOW we see the zombie kid, peering up at Mouse from under the ledge. But he doesn’t see him. Mouse wipes his brow, puts his hands on the ledge (mindful of the glass), and the kid attacks.

Well, that’s my take on it. I just think it could have been one of the real scary parts.

Biggest complaint is the obvious one. It just didn’t go long enough. Christ, it could have gone for 3 hours, and I still would have wanted more.

But really, I have no complaints. It was a great ride.

I’m bashing my head against a wall trying to convert the nay-sayers. Stuff them. Let them eat cake. GAR delivered this baby for me. All the cool little gags, nods to modern days (fashionable lesbian kissing, navel rings, skate boards) all got a little scene. The FX, both CGI, puppet & make-up was unreal. The best zombie’s ever. I could hardly see some of the stuff on the downloaded version I have (had), but on the big screen, it was wonderful. Though, I must say, Big Daddy’s make up was odd. I was trying to figure out what they intended his injury to be. His nose tip was normal. His lips were normal colored and moist. I mean, he had no injury that I could see. No bite mark. Anyway, who cares?

I had no trouble with Bid Daddy at all. Watching it on computer, his grunting was a tad annoying. ON the big, clear screen however, I really dug him.

The joy of the shamblers is that you get to see them displaying their "personality". Number 9's hiss just before jumping into the river, and her "drooly hiss" when shown how to use the handgun are a case in point.

My next post is a review from the Melbourne Age. All the reviews have been very negative, or so-so. Mind you, the reviewers are generic mass-circulation cardigan wearing middle aged white men (like me ! hahahaha) and, well, what the **** do they know?

[Slas[-[er]

You people just don’t know what you are talking about. Sorry. It did have faults, flaws and gaffes, but on the whole, I loved every minute of it.


.."loved every minute of it", did u see the right film, are u sure u didn't accidently stumble into a screening of Citizen Kane

[corgi37]

Have you seen Citizen Kane? It's, like, totally black and white, dude! And, like OMG, there is no Sean William Scott or not even one killer Marilyn Manson song, bro.

Jim Schembri – Melb Age 5/8/05

Land of the Dead 3 stars out of 4

Article fully quoted. Old Corgi boy added nothing!
Quote:
Now this is how you make a zombie movie. No gags, no in-jokes, no self-awareness, no parody, no irony, no over production. Just straight. With lotsa gore.

It’s a welcome return to the zombie essentials after the glut of zombie films we’ve had of late with Shaun of the dead, House of 1,000 corpses, 28 days later, the Resident Evil flicks, Undead, the Dawn of the Dead remake and Herbie eats brain ( a straight to dvd release). Land of the Dead outshines the lot, which is no surprise, coming from zombie-movie maestro, George A. Romero.

Land is the 4th of Romero’s …of the dead flicks - and here he takes the zombie threat to a new level. The undead still walk as slowly as Westpac tellers (an Aussie bank for you foreign devils! – Corgi), but as Simon Baker discovers, now they want to be just like people. And they’re starting to think.

This ups the ante considerably. Usually the game in zombie flicks is to avoid zombies and shoot as many as possible while scavenging for food or heading for safety, lest they bite you and turn you into one them. Here, however, the human inhabitants of the sanctuary in the middle of town now have the worry of facing zombies who are learning how to use guns and smash through zombie-proofed glass.

Romero makes us take the threat seriously. This is no mean feat in the post-Scream era in which horror/slasher films have been largely transformed into joke fodder. By stressing the painful consequences of getting bitten, building tension between the head villain (a very dapper looking Dennis Hopper) and underling John Leguizamo, and pointing to the new life Baker and his pals are after, Romero manages to give the gorefest dramatic meaning. It actually matters not to be zombie-fied.

Apart from their drive and sheer entertainment, one of the cherished values of good zombie films is how their themes regarding infection and unstoppable enemies can be interpreted as social and political allegories for the time in which they are made. The better zombie films, including Romero’s classics, have offered commentaries about the Vietnam war, the yuppie scourge and AIDS.

Land of the Dead certainly seem to be saying something about the threat of terrorism, though I believe its key theme is a more intimate one about how important it is to resist zombification in everyday life. I observed this recently while dealing with somebody from Australia Post, though for them salvation was clearly too late.

The other chief joy of watching Landi is being reminded of how deeply ingrained our understanding of the zombie world is. There’s no set-up in this film. Romero just charges right in, secure in the knowledge that we are all thoroughly versed in the laws and lore of a world where the undead threaten to turn us all into corporate bureaucrats.

Unquote.

[eardrumbuz]

.."loved every minute of it", did u see the right film, are u sure u didn't accidently stumble into a screening of Citizen Kane

Well, minute for minute, I loved more of Land of the Dead! There were only a few seconds of it I didn't like. Otherwise, my complaints about the film are based on what was missing, not what was in it.

Not sure how many seconds of film footage this adds up to, but the parts I personally didn't like:

1. "They're just trying to find a place to go..."
2. Driving off into the fireworks filled sky
3. Legless zombie dropping in on a nobody
4. Big Daddy choosing to roll a grenade into the garage

[Brody]

Who cares what this guy thinks? :clap: :loon: Is the validation we all need?

smash through zombie-proofed glass.

Zombie proof glass? What the hell is talking about?

It actually matters not to be zombie-fied.

You think?

Land of the Dead certainly seem to be saying something about the threat of terrorism

No. Romero added some lines that mention Terrorists and suddenly its clver social allegories? Suckers.


This films sucks. a 73% rating at RT. Now I know Hollywood is on the skids. Maybe it's hip to:

Support Romero wit hall these other Zombie films on the release.

Land is one of the worst Zombie films I have seen. I'm not here to start shit guys; I'm here for the love of the genre and this film sucks. I've been here awhile; even before the great ATZ Internet Forum Crash and have always ben stoked and pimped the Dead.

But this film was a complete let-down. It's:

Forgettable. :poo:

[Slas[-[er]

Have you seen Citizen Kane? It's, like, totally black and white, dude! And, like OMG, there is no Sean William Scott or not even one killer Marilyn Manson song, bro.

...seeing how my beloved films are the likes of "A Place In the Sun" and "Casablanca" im sure i could come to appreciate it

[Slas[-[er]

Mouse – Now really, I must whine about this scene. It should have been a suspence riddled scene.


...that scene was too funny...the zombies taking out Mouse in that scene...reminded me of a scene in 'Rambo' where John Rambo in black face crawls through mud concealed by shadows, bayonet clenched in teeth, and stealthy takes out the guard post..hilarious

[corgi37]

No, LOTD sux. Its all a catastrophe.


But we'll sure get value for money from anyone else.

I mean, anyone else with an ORIGINAL idea.


p.S. LOTD rox!

[Sadogoat]

Region 1 DVD release date for Land Of The Dead: October 25, 2005

(for those of you who didn't hate it) :D

[Soldat]

Personally, i thought Land of the Dead was a darn good movie. It wasnt amazing by any standards, but it was entertaining and had some good zombie scenes. There were a few things I didnt like. The scenes in the poor city place didnt really feel that realistic, with the dwarf pimp and all that wierd stuff. I would have prefered a more standard homeless type place. Also, the comedy in the movie (like Pillsbury) was great, but I dont think it really belonged. There wasnt as much atmosphere or character development, and the movie could have used more scenes of mass zombie sieges, feeding, and stuff like that.

But the movie's main problem, and the source of many of the problems I mentioned above, was time. The movie was too damn short, so nothing could have been developped very well. Normally I would blame the low budget, but really, you can do ALOT with very little money. 28 Days Later, whether you like it or not, only cost 10 million and visually looks alot better than Land of the Dead does. Money isnt THAT big an issue, just because Hollywood loves to waste tons of it for some reason.

Land threw so much more at the viewer than even all the other Dead movies put together. A drastically changed world, zombies at the peak of their intelligence, a whole society, it was too much to take in for the short amount of time given. I would have loved more detail about the Green and how the people go on with their pointless lives bathed in luxury, what they think of the world and how the can ignore it. I would have loved to actually care about the main character after him being developped better. More time to develop more atmosphere.

Basically, MORE TIME.

[Soldat]

Also...i would have liked Big Daddy to be more zombie-ish. Sure, he can be smart, but make him shamble more, walk stiffer, look partially decomposed, and actually have a desire to eat flesh. I liked Big Daddy, but he didnt quite feel like a zombie. Bub was the perfect smart zombie.

[zombiekilling101]

Have you seen Citizen Kane? It's, like, totally black and white, dude! And, like OMG, there is no Sean William Scott or not even one killer Marilyn Manson song, bro.

Unquote.

dont even let me catch you talking like that again.....:-(

good review, it says it all.

ok and about teh comment about it not being somewhat about terrorism. Dude, there were more than a few lines. One of the key points of the plot was having a powerful city held ransom, by a weaker people with the right weapons. sounds like todays world.

Land Rocks

[Slumlord]

Have you seen Citizen Kane? It's, like, totally black and white, dude! And, like OMG, there is no Sean William Scott or not even one killer Marilyn Manson song, bro.

LOL!! :lol:


Land is one of the worst Zombie films I have seen. I'm not here to start shit guys; I'm here for the love of the genre and this film sucks. I've been here awhile; even before the great ATZ Internet Forum Crash and have always ben stoked and pimped the Dead.

But this film was a complete let-down. It's:

Forgettable.

In time, you will come to appreciate this film... (sorry, couldn't resist) :)


Region 1 DVD release date for Land Of The Dead: October 25, 2005

(for those of you who didn't hate it) :D

Sweet, just in time for Halloween. Thanks for that tidbit of info. :drinking:

[jackskellington]

Region 1 DVD release date for Land Of The Dead: October 25, 2005

Hey!! That's my birthday! Are any GOOD movies coming out that day as well? :)

[Zen Buddakhan]

I liked the movie!
But would like to see more.The dead were awesome, had they been hungry for a while as there food was over the river, then when they get in to the city and pack feed on there victims, surely there would be nothing left to regenerate as a zombie?
(Notice no zombies eat ass?)

Wouldn't it make more sense for the looting parties and dead reckoning to eliminate all the dead as much as possible to secure the small township and loot it systematically...ie suck all the gas out of the underground sumps and clean out all stores?..there was no sign of humans in the towns any more.If you can get a 2-man recon in there, then why not give them a laser designator to paint targets of opportunity and so be more accurate in destroying the dead and not the supplies?
They could use precision guided mortar munnitions (PGMMs) or if they had Hellfire missiles?....And the availability of these weapons should not be limited as the dead do not have a use for them!

Dead reckoning was the shit!...but why did it not have a articulated front dozer blade on it to clear car wrecks , rubble or the dead?...also needed a tender or alternate transport...maybe a trail bike on a bike lift at the back, would have been handy for Mouse to recon and escape at the boat yard?

Yeah, sorry went all gun nut on the topic.

~Zen

[Slas[-[er]

I liked the movie!
But would like to see more.The dead were awesome, had they been hungry for a while as there food was over the river, then when they get in to the city and pack feed on there victims, surely there would be nothing left to regenerate as a zombie?
(Notice no zombies eat ass?)

Wouldn't it make more sense for the looting parties and dead reckoning to eliminate all the dead as much as possible to secure the small township and loot it systematically...ie suck all the gas out of the underground sumps and clean out all stores?..there was no sign of humans in the towns any more.If you can get a 2-man recon in there, then why not give them a laser designator to paint targets of opportunity and so be more accurate in destroying the dead and not the supplies?
They could use precision guided mortar munnitions (PGMMs) or if they had Hellfire missiles?....And the availability of these weapons should not be limited as the dead do not have a use for them!

Dead reckoning was the shit!...but why did it not have a articulated front dozer blade on it to clear car wrecks , rubble or the dead?...also needed a tender or alternate transport...maybe a trail bike on a bike lift at the back, would have been handy for Mouse to recon and escape at the boat yard?

Yeah, sorry went all gun nut on the topic.

~Zen

...Quality Post, Quality post board technician

[zombiekilling101]

...Quality Post, Quality post board technician

whats that mean. seriouslly

[Slas[-[er]

They could use precision guided mortar munnitions (PGMMs) or if they had Hellfire missiles?....And the availability of these weapons should not be limited as the dead do not have a use for them!



..PGMM's eh...those sound expensive...remember its Land of the Dead, where apon wave after wave of thousands by thousands are comin Yonder...mabye if you could get them to ablige and line up like dominos for you, you could get a decent target....might have a better chance of just convincing them to give up and jump off a bridge...or mabye just demoralize them, call them names and tell them to go F themsevles and theyll go home.. i dont know...

[Slas[-[er]

whats that mean. seriouslly


...not quality post, Quality post board technician

[zombiekilling101]

...not quality post, Quality post board technician

ohhhhh got ya.

[corgi37]

One thing i found odd was the liquor store in Uniontown had way too much booze left. I mean, come on, the 1st sign of the dead coming back, and i'd be in there like a shot, stocking up for the holocaust.

Land is so cool!

[zombiekilling101]

Yeah i notieced that too, it would have been better if the shop was alittle more messed up, its not like it was closed when the outbreak began, becasue the door was unlocked.

Land rocks!

[Zen Buddakhan]

Yeah I agree, and the fact that there was 2 stenches in there already and the shelves were neatly stacked?.....atleast the dead cop was behind the counter and could make it to the door...are the dead neat freaks?

~Zen

[zombiekilling101]

Yeah I agree, and the fact that there was 2 stenches in there already and the shelves were neatly stacked?.....atleast the dead cop was behind the counter and could make it to the door...are the dead neat freaks?



~Zen

they probably just got bored like big daddy, and started doing stuff from there normal lifes. the stock boy was in the back wanking it into the bosses cofee... and the cop was busting a robbery

[corgi37]

That cop zombie in the grog shop was fantastic. Top make up, and the actor had a great shamble going on.

Yep, Land is so cool.

Oh, another full page i/v with Baker today in our largest selling Sunday paper. Very high praise for GAR again. Oddly, no review of the flick.

I will be very interested in what LAND grosses in its 1st week here, as the publicity has been amazing.

[corgi37]

Just pinched this off imdb. Very interesting! The chick's husband is a soldier.

Doing a simple yahoo search the following came up. Read with pride for now we know why GAR named the tower in his movie Fiddler's Green.



"Fiddler's Green is the happy land imagined by sailors where there is perpetual mirth, a fiddle that never stops playing and dancers that never tire.

It features in an old English legend: They say that an old salt who is tired of seagoing should walk inland with an oar over his shoulder. When he comes to a pretty little village deep in the country and the people ask him what he is carrying... he will know that he's found Fiddlers Green. The people give him a seat in the sun outside the Village Inn with a glass of grog that refills itself every time he drains the last drop and a pipe forever smoking with fragrant tobacco. From then onwards he has nothing to do but enjoy his glass and pipe and watch the maidens dancing to the music of a fiddle on Fiddlers Green.

This legend may have some of its origin in Tiresias' prophecy in Homer's Odyssey, in which he tells Odysseus that the only way to appease the sea god Poseidon and find happiness is to take an oar and walk until he finds a land where he is asked what he is carrying, and there make his sacrifice.

It is also the subject of numerous songs, including this Irish sea chanty "fiddler's green" about a seaman who is dying at sea.

Chorus

"Wrap me up in my oil skin and blanket,
No more 'round the docks, I'll be seen,
Just tell me olde shipmates,
I'm takin a trip mates,
and I'll see ya some day in Fiddler's Green"


(THE FOLLOWING IS WHAT REALLY CAUGHT MY EYE-KITTY)



A ballad was written anonymously for the US cavalry, published in a 1923 US Cavalry Manual. It is still used in modern cavalry units to memorialize the deceased.


Halfway down the trail to hell
In a shady meadow green,
Are the souls of all dead troopers camped
Near a good old-time canteen
And this eternal resting place
Is known as Fiddler's Green.

Marching past, straight through to hell,
The infantry are seen,
Accompanied by the Engineers,
Artillery and Marine,
For none but the shades of Cavalrymen
Dismount at Flddlers' Green.

Though some go curving down the trail
To seek a warmer scene,
No trooper ever gets to Hell
Ere he's emptied his canteen,
And so rides back to drink again
With friends at Fiddlers' Green.

And so when man and horse go down
Beneath a saber keen,
Or in a roaring charge or fierce melee
You stop a bullet clean,
And the hostiles come to get your scalp,
Just empty your canteen,
And put your pistol to your head
And go to Fiddlers' Green.


In Neil Gaiman's Sandman novels, Fiddler's Green is a location in the mystical landscape of the Dreaming. It once spent a few years as a human being, just for a change of pace, basing its appearance and personality on the writer G. K. Chesterton."


The last cadence is what my brave and loving husband would sing in basic training, during road marches, and while he was overseas in Bosinia and Iraq. This information has brought new light to my mind on why GAR would name his tower Fiddler's Green. he must truely be a military supporter, but maybe not of what the military is forced to do. May God bless GAR for showing his faithfulness to his country in such a uniqe way.

[Strongest Redfield]

I just went to see the movioe last night, and I was kind of worried since I had heard some negative comments about the flick, still I am glad to say that this movie actually is better than I expected, and the development of the series is just as great and original as the concept it self was back in the 60's.

Goerge A Romero did a great job with this sequel and anybody who says the contrary is just a bitter person, N'uff said.

[Slumlord]

I just went to see the movioe last night, and I was kind of worried since I had heard some negative comments about the flick, still I am glad to say that this movie actually is better than I expected, and the development of the series is just as great and original as the concept it self was back in the 60's.

Goerge A Romero did a great job with this sequel and anybody who says the contrary is just a bitter person, N'uff said.

True, true. :clap:

[Bad Zombie Night]

OK all you cheapskates out there!

Right now online, you can watch the first 11 minutes of Land of the Dead for FREE... No questions asked. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/nanners/0489.gif http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/nanners/0490.gif


However, before you pull out your lounge chair, and butter up that popcorn, there is a catch... The film clip is in French. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/nanners/2141.gif



Please note: "Haut débit" means High bandwidth and "Bas débit" means Low bandwidth.


Here's the link: Land of the Dead (http://choc.fr/temporaire/lod/select_video.html)



Here's the MoviesOnline article: Watch the first 11 minutes of Land of the Dead (http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_5066.html)


corgi and Outland should be just ecstatic. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif

[corgi37]

Mon Dieu

The more I think about it, the more realise how great Land is. I couldn’t hang on any longer, and saw it again yesterday. Happy to report the cinema was nearly full!

As I have said before, I think this film is a victim (and a product) of the current political climate. As with Day, I think Land will be appreciated in the future when times have changed.

What I have really come to appreciate from George’s latest masterpiece, is not the living, but the dead. Apart from the FX being great, it is the subtle performances GAR got out of the zombies. Big Daddy annoys the hell out of a lot of people, just as Bub did 20 years ago, but I thought he was ok. Eugene Clarke’s “walking” style is what I had a problem with.

But, and this really comes through when you’ve seen it again, it’s the supporting zombies who deliver. Number 9 & the Butcher are awesome in their subtlety.

Big Daddy has empowered them. Inspired them. This is where GAR is coming from. It aint 9-11, its about pushing people around. You push them around too much, they fight back. To me, that’s the message and the power of this film. He has always been sympathetic to the zombies, and never so more in Land.

The subtleties I mean are thus. On the dock when the zombies are all lined up, Big Daddy jumps in, and Number 9 gives a hiss. Same when she is taught to use a gun. She has been empowered, and she likes it!

Butcher too. When he hacks at the wall, he’s giving it all he’s got. He’s snarling and swinging with purpose. The chilling scene where the zombies have cornered the living, the sky flowers are sent up, the ghouls look up, then snap out of it, is just perfect film making. To see it again, and know its coming, and to appreciate it a 2nd time, this time more clearly, was a joy (just as my Choc-top-boysenberry-ice-cream was also a joy).

Big Daddy doesn’t let his troops off lightly though. After breaching the fence, and the ghouls have a quick snack on the soldiers, Big Daddy does his “raptor” grunt, seemingly telling them “No time to feed, we got more important things to do”.

But, see what the zombies do? Once they inflict revenge, or to put it another way, once they re-assert themselves on the living, they leave. They don’t try to stay. Or take over. They leave. They’ve made their point. Though I gotta say, I thought the script was better in that the citizens, led by Mulligan, slaughter as many as they can and get the city. That was not really shown in the film, though it was alluded to. In the script, I thought it poignant GAR had people gleefully doing what Kaufman was doing. Happily blasting away. A case of “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”.

I could go on. I liked Land a hell of a lot, but after seeing it again – well, that’s it. I love it. I simply cant wait for the dvd.

[zombiekilling101]

I too corgi enjoyed the movie equally the second time around.

[Slas[-[er]

Mon Dieu

"...Land will be appreciated in the future when times have changed."

"...I have really come to appreciate from George’s latest masterpiece,"

"...The subtleties I mean are thus."

"I love it."


..ahh c'est Magnifique...LOTD shall age like fine wine...for ur next peice shall i recommend elaborating on the finer artistic merits of the masterwork 'Dude where art thou Car'...

[Pain]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Also their own dictionary.

[zombiekilling101]

..ahh c'est Magnifique...LOTD shall age like fine wine...for ur next peice shall i recommend elaborating on the finer artistic merits of the masterwork 'Dude where art thou Car'...

dude your so lame sometimes:)

[Pain]

dude your so lame sometimes:)

Back to Land of the Dead. We can piss each other off til the cows come home.

[goesaround]

Romero is the ONLY film maker that manages to frighten the hell out of you with a dead corpse walking and at the samr time make you sympathetic to this corpse for no other reason that this is no eveil monster but oneself only a little less lucky. Balance. What bothered me about Land is the balance was lost. You were supposed to be TOO sympathetic negating the horror. I'm sorry I just have the feeling George has simply lost interest in zombies. You know when this movie was announce I somehow didn't feel HIS excitement for the project. I really really feel from listening to everything he said that if he had his others he would rather have made 'Diamond Dead' and did this because well,he knew he had too while the chance presented itself. But I dont think he was deeply motivated add the loss of Savini what you have is a hollow project he even walked away from on the last day of filming. No matter what spin was put on that puppy it did not bode well. But look it is very hard to expect an artist to have the same enthusiasm for a vehicle he invented 35 or so years earlier and it is obvious to me he just simply dosent.
The only good thing I can end on is when watching the 10 minutes graciouslyoffered on the screen just now is I enjoyed the 10 minutes alot more on TV type format and with my expectations shattered a month ago. I do think I will like it more on DVD with the added material. But that still dosent change my opinion that George is bored silly with the zombies and was only going throuh the motions..Achh sorrow is the heart of the poet.

[corgi37]

I see your point about the zombies getting too much sympathy.

But, didnt you feel for Bub when he saw Logan was dead?

[Ilovezombies!]

Gotta question, so when does anyone think we will find out if GAR will do another chapter in the series? And when does the movie open in the UK?

[Ilovezombies!]

whoops, didn't mean just the uk, i meant pretty much anywhere other then the usa (since it's already out here)

[Bad Zombie Night]

whoops, didn't mean just the uk, i meant pretty much anywhere other then the usa (since it's already out here)

Ask and you shall receive.

Australia: August 4th
Austria: September 2nd
Belgium: August 11th
Chile: September 22nd
France: August 10th
Germany: September 1st
Hungary: August 11th
Ireland: September 23rd
Netherlands: September 8th
Japan: August 27th
Singapore: August 11th
Spain: September 9th
Switzerland (French): August 10th
Switzerland (German): September 1st
United Kingdom: September 23rd
More info from Movies Online: Land of the Dead Intern. Release Dates update and new Pics ! (http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_5019.html)

[Brody]

Gotta question, so when does anyone think we will find out if GAR will do another chapter in the series? And when does the movie open in the UK?

Something tells me this is the last Theatrical Romero Zombie film. :roll: :-(

[jackskellington]

Well if this is all he's got nowadays then it's best that it should be his last.

[goesaround]

I see your point about the zombies getting too much sympathy.

But, didnt you feel for Bub when he saw Logan was dead?

Yes, that was the height of pathos and genius when Bub waved his chains in sorrow. BUT the other zombies were there and you felt the apocalypse. Remember when the copter pilot says this is "One big longtooomestoneeeeee" and their was that long lost soul moan..That was not here.That's exactly what I mean where is the balance in this?I never felt the pure horror in the sense of a dead corpse coming back to life. What I am waiting for is George talking about this. Once he dosent have to oil the hype machine and he levels as he does on the DVDs. BUT I still have hope AND I do believe he will make another either indepndent or not and it will be a return to "Night of The Living Dead" intensity

[SGT. DEATH]

Shit we are the last to get this,now that pisse's me off a bit.I think GARs previous flims should excuse him of this one no matter how bad people perceive it.I think Dawn 78 is good enough reasion to allow him one disappointment.Every one has a bad patch.

[corgi37]

Yeah, Goearound, that scene with John is fantastic. Brilliant speech and all. That moan is chilling. But, LOTD is different. We dont fear the zombies. We are ignoring them. Treating them with disdain. Allowing ourselves a false sense of security. And allowing others to push us around. That is the whole point of the film.

And i love it. It aint simply a re-hash.

[Red_RidingHood]

I'm glad to hear the movie was good... I didn't get to see it... I was saving my money to see dark water for my moms birthday. yeah... she's kinda a freak too... she's the one who turned me on to horror in the first place!

[jackskellington]

I'm glad to hear the movie was good... I didn't get to see it... I was saving my money to see dark water for my moms birthday. yeah... she's kinda a freak too... she's the one who turned me on to horror in the first place!

Howzabout posting a review after you see Dark Water. I didn't get to see it and am wondering if it's worth trying to catch before it leaves.

[Zombie Survivor]

I finally saw LotD in the cinema and... wow... What a awesome movie it was! The zombies were great, story, everything!

LotD score:
Zombies ::: 10/10
Characters ::: 9/10
Story ::: 9/10
Overall ::: 9.3

Memorable zombies
--- Big Daddy
--- Blades
--- Butcher
--- #9
--- Priest

Memorable Scenes
--- The beginning
--- Entering the city
--- Death of Kaufman

My love for zombies has even grown more... ZOMBIES RULE!!! Allright guys, lets ride north...

[goesaround]

Yeah, Goearound, that scene with John is fantastic. Brilliant speech and all. That moan is chilling. But, LOTD is different. We dont fear the zombies. We are ignoring them. Treating them with disdain. Allowing ourselves a false sense of security. And allowing others to push us around. That is the whole point of the film.

And i love it. It aint simply a re-hash.

Good point. Like I said no one makes these movies but Romero where you even think about zombies as well..you or I who have got bitten. Your, dare I say it, political point was good. I still feel he was more interested in making a political statement movie then he was a zombie movie. But your point as is often the case my Aussie friend, a good one.

[corgi37]

He certainly was less subtle with his critiques of society and certain people than he has been in his other 3 Dead films. And why not? He's had it all bottled up inside for 20 years.

I am just sooooooooo looking forward to the dvd.

P.S. Hope there's good vision of Jennifer Baxter "Number 9", sans make up!

[sgtarent]

I liked LOTD, I wish that there will be more movies following the same story/timeline, I would like to see the surviving humans conduct offensives and take back the cities (Like in the Raptorman saga!) & also finally find out what caused the zombies!

I'm disappointed about the box office showing for LOTD. I don't know why the studio moved it up to open earlier than expected (I'm sure this was discussed somewhere in this message board). How could the studio put a move like LOTD which is a cult movie (low appeal to general public, you have to work to get regular people to come see it) against huge movies like "War of the Worlds", "Herbie", etc. These movies sucked all the money out of the general public. I hope LOTD dvd sales do well and that they have loads of extras. :doh:

[corgi37]

In 4 days, LOTD pulled in $596,000 here in Oz. Its #3 at the box office. That is a great result! From memory, i think Dawn04 earned $1mill. These are Aussie dollars BTW.

Like in the U.S., our cinema takings are way, way down. People just dont go anymore like they used to. Well, i've seen it twice, so i've done my bit.

[Slas[-[er]

He certainly was less subtle with his critiques of society and certain people than he has been in his other 3 Dead films. And why not? He's had it all bottled up inside for 20 years.

I am just sooooooooo looking forward to the dvd.

P.S. Hope there's good vision of Jennifer Baxter "Number 9", sans make up!


..good luck bro

[Zen Buddakhan]

Sorry off topic!
Slasher thats a funny ass avatar...is it Hitler and the Pope playing PS2?

Lmao :lol:

[zombiekilling101]

In 4 days, LOTD pulled in $596,000 here in Oz. Its #3 at the box office. That is a great result! From memory, i think Dawn04 earned $1mill. These are Aussie dollars BTW.

Like in the U.S., our cinema takings are way, way down. People just dont go anymore like they used to. Well, i've seen it twice, so i've done my bit.

you guys need to make another road warrior movie or something.

[tarman]

you guys need to make another road warrior movie or something.

hell yeah!

[corgi37]

Funny you should say that. George Miller was trying to get another off the ground about 2 years ago, but Mel Gibson said no.

I'd be content with another Undead. Or, at least, any good Aussie movie. We've only made absolute shit in the past 18 months. Even WE dont go to see them. They are excrutiatingly bad.

And have a distinct lack of tits and ass, which is a bloody shame, considering all the gorgeous sheilas we have here.

The trouble with us is, we just cant make good horror movies. Havent got the budget or the population. I know Undead divided alot of people, but its about the only 1/2 decent gore/horror type flick we've ever made. All the movie people are only interested in making weak rip-off copies of British movies like Lock, Stock & 2 smoking barrels.

Apart from me, we are so lame.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Let's get back to Land of the Dead. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif

[Slas[-[er]

Let's get back to Land of the Dead. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif


...okay....what about it

[corgi37]

I liked it very much.

So should you all.

Or, ya'll.

Or, Youse (Aussie slang, and why not!)

[zombiekilling101]

I liked it very much.

So should you all.

Or, ya'll.

Or, Youse (Aussie slang, and why not!)

ya'll..... ya'll! dont watch those damn blue collar comedy guys:x

[corgi37]

Then "youse" it is.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Land Box Office Update:
Well, it looks like the Land express in the states finally stopped on August 4, 2005 at $20,495,060... May you rest in peace. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/zzzgoodnight.gif

But their overseas world tour in just getting started... The latest as of August 8, 2005 is $4,255,472

This make their total worldwide to be at $24,750,532 http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif

[jackskellington]

ya'll..... ya'll! dont watch those damn blue collar comedy guys:x

Hey!! I say ya'll! As in, "I'll bet most of ya'll agree that Land sucked!"

[Vash]

Well at least LoTH did better then Gigli


:)

[jackskellington]

Well at least LoTH did better then Gigli :)

Yeah, but I'll wager that they're both considered as jokes in their respective genres.

[corgi37]

One of our cable carriers, FOXTEL, is going all out to help LOTD. For the month of August, Thursday's are "zombie" night. 28 days, dawn & Undead are being shown. Also, another interview with GAR shown. Again from Cannes. Another Aussie interviewed him. The i/v was shown prior to the start of Dawn04. The interviewer was in awe. For once, some one not only knew about Romero's legacy, but was an out and out fan. He was gushing. Romero was cool too. And, smoked!! I didnt know he still smoked. SImon Baker contradicted himself, saying he'd never really seen a zombie movie. Yet, in 2 interviews i have seen, he said he watched Dawn78 when younger, and stoned off his head. Anyway, its all good.

I loved LOTD. People i know loved it. It's been doing well here in Oz. So, maybe its an American thing?

When crap like Dukes of Hazzard hits #1, you just know some thing is wrong in the U.S. of A.

But then again, aint no line like "We dont negotiate with terrorists" in Dukes.

LOTD is a triumph. Has its flaws, but is nothing like the creative disaster some of you blokes have been carrying on about. Remember folks, "Kill your idol".

[Slumlord]

Hey!! I say ya'll! As in, "I'll bet most of ya'll agree that Land sucked!"

Nope, can't agree with that.

[Darth Erroneous]

Land wasn't great, but it wasn't bad. Everybody has their bad days. Just like the time I left the house forgetting to put on underwear.

[Lefty44709]

LOTD isn't even worthy of all this debate. It's just another movie. There was nothing special about it, good or bad. It was just there.

[jackskellington]

LOTD isn't even worthy of all this debate. It's just another movie. There was nothing special about it, good or bad. It was just there.

You're right lefty, (No pun intended)!! It's just that Land was supposed to be Romero's return which makes it not "just another zombie movie" which is why alot of us were very let down. If it would've been any other director, this thread would more than likely be buried by now, but some of us just expected more from GAR.

[Darth Erroneous]

LOTD isn't even worthy of all this debate. It's just another movie. There was nothing special about it, good or bad. It was just there.
We'll just have to wait until the next big zombie flick comes out. When that happens all the attention will go to it. :)

[Lefty44709]

True... but, everyone agrees that GAR is THE legend of Zombie Movies right?

Suppose Dawn of the Dead was released this year instead of LOTD, and he left in the scene where the "raiders" attacked the mall, and were smashing pies in the faces of Zombies.

Realistically how many people would be bashing him about that scene and calling him a joke? I was showing it to a friend of mine the other day and he got up and left the room. He couldn't understand why anyone would think GAR was this great filmmaker.

I can almost guarantee you that if that scene was in a movie created in the "internet" age, most people would be bashing it.

What are your thoughts on that? Do you think that scene would be blasted in this message board? And do you think it would diminish the acclaim that DOTD has received?

I myself love Dawn, so this isn't my opinion on the scene, I'm just interested on how people think it would be interpreted today.

[Darth Erroneous]

I think a film like Dawn can only be appreciated by those who enjoy great film. I know many people who will begin to watch a film and will walk away simply because it looks old. But yes, I believe that if a pie joke was in Land that it would be ridiculed by the critics. It's a little out of place now, but then it can be appreciated. (Although I still thinks it's great.)

[jackskellington]

As for the pies in the face gag, it was just one very small scene and didn't really take away from the movie as a whole. Dawn 78 had that feeling of hopelessness and dread hanging in the air which is what Land was sorely lacking. Maybe the pie scene was just to let the audience have a couple of seconds away from that feeling of apprehension or something.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Suppose Dawn of the Dead was released this year instead of LOTD, and he left in the scene where the "raiders" attacked the mall, and were smashing pies in the faces of Zombies.

Realistically how many people would be bashing him about that scene and calling him a joke?

What are your thoughts on that? Do you think that scene would be blasted in this message board? And do you think it would diminish the acclaim that DOTD has received?


I don't mind here, if Dawn is used as a cross reference to Land (note jackskellington's post)... Otherwise, a little less Dawn, and lot more Land, please. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif

[corgi37]

Since Dawn04, most people were split into 2 camps. The haters of the remake, and the skater bois who thought it rocked, who thought the nu metal soundtrack rocked, and who thought the running zombies were da bomb and slow zombies are so uncool, and man, Dawn78 is just sooooooo slow, and whats with the crappy blue make up.

Same as Frankenstein is in black and white, and King Kong is obviously a model.

The same dudes, comparing dawn04 to lotd, are just (sadly) not getting it. What dont these people get about GAR's premise for his movie (that will in years to come, be seen as a great film)?

(WHine) "There is no sense of dread".

THERE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE!

By all means, go make your little indie films ripping off Dawn, or go support crap like RE, Dawn04 or 1,000 corpses.

But, if you DONT GET what Land is about, then why say (sort of say anyway):

"Oh, man, these people were like, you know bro, sitting in a high-rise sipping lattes!"

So the scene of the zombies lining up to cross the river meant nothing? Them all coming out meant nothing? The shots looking down as they breached the barricades meant nothing? The scene when the trapped civillians realised the zombies were no longer mesmerised by the "sky flowers" meant nothing?

Bloody hell, i must have seen a different movie.

Or, were these nay-sayers going to say these things, be negative about this movie, even before they had seen it? I think the latter is the case. It's hard to tell with many of the people who have joined since LOTD opened, exactly what their feelings were prior to seeing it. As i've said - Most of you read the script. Most of you heard about the 1st 10-15 minutes shown at Cannes, and were drooling about it.

But, when you saw it, you were like "Ignoring the problem? WTF!!!!"

Or, as i have long suspected since LOTD was released, many of the negative remarks were written/thought out before people had seen the film. There is an intense GAR flame competition going on. I aint gonna be part of it. I get what he made, i get what he's trying to say, and i like it.

I also think a key part of the dislike of this film, is the perceived political aspects. It will be interesting to see reviews from the Euro people here, and the U.K. people too. Maybe a different perspective will bring different feelings.

Or, maybe, too many people are too used to horror movies with MTV style edits, "Saving Private Ryan" action sequences, and Marilyn ****ing Manson in the soundtrack.

[zombiekilling101]

Corgi, I'm going to let you talk for me for now on.

:)

Land Rocks!

[Ilovezombies!]

Does anyone have any idea when land of the dead might come out on dvd? I figure sometime around christmas or just after but i have no idea. Oh and to comment on what was said a few paragraph's ago, I personally loved all of the dead movies, including the dawn remake, oh so many movies to buy so little time and money to do it! I must have Dead Alive by the end of this year!! Great stuff.

[zombiekilling101]

It comes out in October for us in the states.

[Some_Day...]

It comes out in October for us in the states.

It's not even in the cinema's here yet!! :cry:

[Dagnammit]

For Some_Day and all the other Brits - you can see the first ten minutes of Land of the Dead (err... in French) here: http://choc.fr/temporaire/lod/player_bd.html

[Bad Zombie Night]

I already posted that link about a week, and a half ago here: #2580 (http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showpost.php?p=103678&postcount=2580) http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif

[Dagnammit]

Okay, now worries. Must have missed that.

[Bad Zombie Night]

I guess it doesn't hurt to repost the link again... We could all use a good chuckle, listening to Big Daddy's howl again. :lol: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif


Ah-Woooooooooooo!

[Ilovezombies!]

Okay, thanks zomkill101, earlier then i thought, that's awesome! I feel for those that it hasen't even opened in theaters yet for.

[zombiekilling101]

Okay, thanks zomkill101, earlier then i thought, that's awesome! I feel for those that it hasen't even opened in theaters yet for.

as do I, its going to be nice when we can have the whole board in on the fight for Land.

LAND ROCKS!

[Zombie Survivor]

Land of the Dead is my favorite zombie movie!!!

[zombiekilling101]

Land of the Dead is my favorite zombie movie!!!

glad to hear!

its in my top 10

[goesaround]

Hell it's in my top 10 and I even didn't like it! Has George talked recently? Any links?

[zombiekilling101]

Hell it's in my top 10 and I even didn't like it! Has George talked recently? Any links?

eek you better watch some more zombie films.

I havent heard anything about him yet.

[goesaround]

Are you kidding I've seen far too many. Except for George Romero and 28 days later and yes 'Resident Evil 1' and 'Detained' and 'Siege' and Manchester Zombie or what ever it's called there are none that I've seen that werent worse then zoolander. I still havent seen the Australian Undead but there are 10 and like I say I liked 'Land of the Dead' but after waiting all these years I wanted to much more then like it. But it's still better then any Fulci or Indie other then I mentioned or perhaps one or 2 I havent remembered.

[zombiekilling101]

I stand corrected then.

I think Land is alot better than Fulci zombies as well.

[Some_Day...]

I soo badly hope that it becomes one of my fav films. Can't wait till it comes out!! :x :scare:

[Sadogoat]

An official Land Of The Dead videogame for PC and X-Box has now been announced. Click here (http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?p=108032) for more details (it's not based on the film's plot, so don't worry too much if you didn't care for the movie).

[Bad Zombie Night]

The game pics actually look better than the movie.



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/ATZ%20Pics/LOTD_RTFiddlersGreen1.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/ATZ%20Pics/LOTD_RTFiddlersGreen5.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/ATZ%20Pics/LOTD_RTFiddlersGreen2.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/ATZ%20Pics/LOTD_RTFiddlersGreen3.jpg

[zombiekilling101]

cant wait for it.. i just hope its not corny and cheap like the House of the Dead games.

[corgi37]

You know. I'm 42 next month. A husband. A father. A step-father. A respectable public servant.

Gimme the game. Gimme the game. Gimme the game, oh Mummy, gimme the game!!

So there is going to be 2 Romero related games coming out? Is that right?

[zombiekilling101]

hahahhah

easy there champ, you'll get your game

[sgtarent]

The game looks great! I hope it has a good storyline to follow. I really like the description about damage to specific body parts when you attack a zombie :doh:

[corgi37]

The wonderful movie, "Land of the Dead", or LOTD as i call it, has earnt $1.05mill here in Oz. Bloody great result in the current climate for a horror movie. Our cinema takings have dived like in the U.S.

It seems we Aussies are more loyal than many Yanks, which is sad really. But, sadly, it's takings are down 60% on the previous week. It pulled in about $265,000 for the week. This is all Aussie peso's btw.

I am stoked. I thought it would just crash, but it hasnt. Its currently number 7. I'd say it's got 1 more week, then will be pulled. I'm just happy it earnt similar to what Dawn04 earnt.

[Bad Zombie Night]

It has been announced that there will be a Rated, and a Unrated version of Land of the Dead, when the DVD is released on October 18th.

Here's the story at bloody-disgusting: 2 Versions of 'Land of the Dead' on October 18th (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/index.php?Show=4563&Template=newsfull) http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif

[Zen Buddakhan]

Just thought I would post some pics of Dead Reckoning and GAR!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/Zen17/DSCF0105.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/Zen17/george_rom.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/Zen17/DSCF0104.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/Zen17/deadreck3.jpg

[Bad Zombie Night]

When you take a closer look at Dead Reckoning, it doesn't look all that impenetrable, or sturdy... I noticed two things that should be looked at more closely... The headlights for instance, looks as though Zombies could rip them off quite easily... Another thing is the accordion between the driver's section, and the passenger's section of the vehicle... Zombies, especially ones with tools, look as though they could rip through all that cheap rubber, and plastic. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif

[Zen Buddakhan]

Yip! ...sad to say that movie magic is probably all foam and rubber?...In the daylight it looks like a pile of :poo:

~Zen

[NeonExile]

Just by the by, the UK premiere for Land Of The Dead is tomorrow night. I posted the link for tickets a couple of weeks ago, but I'm pretty sure there's none left. I'm going, so I'll be sure to report back on the movie and also the appearances of Simon Pegg, Edgar Wright, and allegedly GAR himself. I'll also bring the pics. I guess I'll post it all here.

[jackskellington]

It has been announced that there will be a Rated, and a Unrated version of Land of the Dead, when the DVD is released on October 18th.

Here's the story at bloody-disgusting: 2 Versions of 'Land of the Dead' on October 18th (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/index.php?Show=4563&Template=newsfull) http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif

They changed the release date to the 18th? Good, because my birthday is on the 25th and I didn't want it ruined by that movie! :lol: I also noticed that the unrated will only be 4 minutes longer than what we saw in the theaters. That means it's gonna be maybe a few quick split second glimpses of zombies and then an additional 3 minutes and 50 seconds of dialogue. BORING!!!

[corgi37]

4 minutes! 4 bloody minutes! Geez, can they spare it? That is very annoying. They promised heaps more. Well, Nicotero indicated there would be heaps more. Thats just crap.

Still, i'll buy it as i loved it.

But, really, i was expecting maybe 15-20mins more.

[jackskellington]

It's probably have some interview extras on it that alot of people will like. I'll get it if it has Romero's apology! :lol:

[Zombie Survivor]

For your information, there's not much dialoge. There's a lot of zombie action baby! This movie could never ruin a day. You'll see that LotD is a masterpiece...

[jackskellington]

For your information, there's not much dialoge. There's a lot of zombie action baby! This movie could never ruin a day. You'll see that LotD is a masterpiece...

Saw it when it came out...Not even close to a masterpiece. As for the DVD release, have you already seen it or something? You say there's alot of zombie action so I take it you got an advance copy?

[Slumlord]

Why even bother with putting out a 'rated' version of anything? No one ever buys that version unless it's the only one available.

[jackskellington]

Why even bother with putting out a 'rated' version of anything? No one ever buys that version unless it's the only one available.

But to be fair, I've only seen a couple of unrated versions that were worth the money, the most recent being the excellent extras on the Chainsaw Massacre remake. Most of the time, though, the hyped up unrated versions aren't worth a shit. Example- Dawn 04 Unrated :poo:

[Slumlord]

But to be fair, I've only seen a couple of unrated versions that were worth the money, the most recent being the excellent extras on the Chainsaw Massacre remake. Most of the time, though, the hyped up unrated versions aren't worth a shit. Example- Dawn 04 Unrated :poo:

True. Sometimes the extra material stands out horribly such as a blurry or grainy picture. But, I've still got my eye on the unrated Land of the Dead.

[jackskellington]

Well, out of respect for GAR's past movies I hope the DVD does well, though I won't be running out to buy it until it hits the $5 rack at Wal-Mart.

[zombiekilling101]

Well, out of respect for GAR's past movies I hope the DVD does well, though I won't be running out to buy it until it hits the $5 rack at Wal-Mart.

*shakes head

Too bad its still not out in theaters, I feel like watching it. Brewbaker kicks ass.

Land Rocks!

[Steve P]

Well, I finally got to see Land of the Dead at a press screening on weds (I'm in the UK, by the way).

Frankly I'm puzzled. Given some of the comments herein I wasn't expecting much, and went with very low expectations, but thought it was wonderful and thoroughly enjoyed it. Given the obvious budgetary restraints he still managed to create a mood of apocalyptic tension; Romero's greatest skill in my opinion.

Hopper has few rivals in his ability to phone in a performance, and he duly did as expected. At least he had little screen-time, which I suspect is not a coincidence. His death scene was also somewhat far-fetched: but then so was Rhodes' death in Day, and I've managed to accept that.

I've a feeling it'll do well here in the UK and on mainland Europe not especially in cinemas but on DVD. It will be seen as a classic zombie genre film but probably won't break out in the manner of Dawn. Times have changed.

[Steve P]

For those of us in the UK, George A. Romero will be interviewed on BBC Radio Five Live this coming Friday, at 3pm.

For those who don't, it'll be included in Mark Kermode's Film Reviews podcast, available an hour or so afterwards at:

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rmhttp/downloadtrial/fivelive/markkermodesfilmreviews/rss.xml

[Zombie Survivor]

Finally someone who thinks that LotD was a good movie. Welcome to the club Steve P.

[NeonExile]

Finally saw it, so just thought I'd check in with my thoughts. Not much point in doing a full review or anything, so I'll just tell you about the Summer Screen showing last night. Things kicked off with a screening of Shaun Of The Dead at just after nine. I don't wanna talk about another movie in the LOTD thread, and everybody loves SOTD, but it was great seeing it on an absolutely massive screen, and as an added bonus, the intros were done by Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright, who appeared beforehand with Peter Serafinowicz and Kate Ashfield. Various other cast members were dotted throughout the crowd, so it gave the screening a real premiere feel, despite the fact it's a couple of years old. Would have been worth going for that alone.

And onto Land...which I liked, but I can completely understand why a lot of people are hating it. My overall impression was that it didn't feel much like a Romero movie at all. In fact, it felt more like a subplot from a Romero movie. The characters have nothing like the depth of the original trilogy, and the whole thing moves far too quickly for that sense of dread so prevalent in Dawn and Day to make itself felt. Above and beyond that, there's a real lack of subtlety. Some of the political references are groan-inducing, and the oh-so-obvious comparisons between the people and the zombies made me cringe. I don't understand why Romero saw a need to rip a lot of the subtext out of his story and slap the audience in the face with it. For someone who has watched and re-watched and come to love his earlier films, I found that a little insulting.

Which is the handle, I think, when it comes to some of the anger people are showing in this thread. One, it's pretty obviously not a masterpiece. Two, it's disappointing for several reasons, the most important of which being that (in my opinion) George has allowed his film to be defined by the expected audience (and, no doubt, the distributors) instead of trying to take us somewhere new. For this generation, seeing a GAW flick for the first time, those are peripheral concerns. For the old school fans, they're a reason to feel a little cheated.

All that said, I enjoyed the surface experience of watching the movie. The characterisation that was there was good, the dialogue was generally above average, the action sequences were neat...and dude, zombies.

So, I disagree with those calling it a piece of hackwork and all that, although I can understand the anger that gives rise to those feelings. But I also disagree with those that are saying time will make it a classic. Land lacks too much to ever be a masterpiece, even in the horror genre. It is, in the end, simply a watchable action/horror movie, much along the lines of Dawn '04.

And no matter how much we tried to play down our expectations, we wanted more.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Here a new article about GAR talking about the new Land DVD coming out on October 18th.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif




Romero Comes out of Hiding!

It seems that ever since "Land of the Dead" made its debut on June 24th he hasn't spoken a word. Well recently he went to a screening in Edinburg where they were showing Land of the Dead and spoke to the fans.

During the short chat he had with fans he revealed some of the what the upcoming DVD will contain. He said that yes there will be more gore added that they left out of the original because he and Nicotero knew the MPAA wouldn't allow it. He will also be adding the scene where Cholo walks in on a rich "fat cat" after he has hung himself. Later in the film he came back to life. Romero did this to show that even if you are not bit you will come back as a zombie. It was cut simply because it didn't come out quite like he had hoped.

George also told the fans that he is still very interested in doing "Diamond Dead". The only problem he has with that project is the funding is not there. Below is a prop that was sent into AICN for the Diamond Dead film. He is also working on two Stephen King adaptations "From a Buick 8" and "The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon".



Source: horror-movies.ca


ATZ's Land page: Land of the Dead (http://www.allthingszombie.com/movies/landotd.php)

[Zombie Survivor]

Can't wait to buy the DVD!

[Darth Erroneous]

Can't wait to buy the DVD!
I would like to see the DVD come in a case similar to the Day 2-disc case that had the cover-flap shaped like Bub's head. The legal pad styled booklet was a nice touch.

[zombiekilling101]

I would like to see the DVD come in a case similar to the Day 2-disc case that had the cover-flap shaped like Bub's head. The legal pad styled booklet was a nice touch.

Yes that was very great. I hope they pack it full of extra little stuff. Great great movie. romero style all the way.

[SGT. DEATH]

Just seen this and now I can say what I think.I also found this to be Romeros weakest in his series but I still enjoyed it and look forewade to(hope for) the next in his series.Big Daddy seemed to intelligent for a zombie but my only real dissapointment was I was expecting too much.This is still a very good film I just found his others better.I love this one and will also invest in the DVD.Roll on Dead reckoning revisited I've just had a great time watching this movie. :clap: :drinking:

[jackskellington]

Glad you finally got to see it Sarge. Sounds like you were a bit disappointed like alot of us, but I'm glad you liked it for the most part.

[Slas[-[er]

Can't wait to buy the DVD!


..i can't wait for DVD either..so i can throw it out the window, than after i'll retrieve it and glue it back together..so i can throw it out the window again!

SuX!

[Jason Voorhees]

..i can't wait for DVD either..so i can throw it out the window, than after i'll retrieve it and glue it back together..so i can throw it out the window again!

SuX!

You've made your point brutally and annoyingly clear. We ALL know you don't like it. Good for you. No need for you to post it anymore.http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/Snowserpent/jvsmily.gif

[Slas[-[er]

You've made your point brutally and annoyingly clear. We ALL know you don't like it. Good for you. No need for you to post it anymore.http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/Snowserpent/jvsmily.gif

..i liked to turn this thread into Slasher's LOTD bashing blog

[zombiekilling101]

..i liked to turn this thread into Slasher's LOTD bashing blog

right:loon:


When was the release date for this again? the 28th of october?

[Sadogoat]

October 18th for the Land Of The Dead DVDs and videogame.

[Zen Buddakhan]

How you doin'.........
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/Zen17/LotD10050504.jpg

[Ilovezombies!]

The game comes out the same day as the dvd? Interesting, I really need an Xbox! Man I can't wait to get Land, I've only seen it twice. :clap:

[zombiekilling101]

The game comes out the same day as the dvd? Interesting, I really need an Xbox! Man I can't wait to get Land, I've only seen it twice. :clap:

fantastic.. I hear the video game isnt giong to be that expensive, only 30 bucks.

[jackskellington]

Is it on XBox and PS2?

[zombiekilling101]

Is it on XBox and PS2?

I think xbox and pc

[Sadogoat]

Yes, you are correct: PC and X-Box only. No PS2 version has been announced.

[Sadogoat]

Oh, and BTW, here's the specs for the DVD releases of Land Of The Dead:

Rated Version

- Runtime of 1 hour 33 mins
- Full screen ratio
- Commentary with George Romero, producer Peter Grumwald, and editor Michael Doherty
- Dolby Digital 5.1 and Dolby DTS 5.1 Surround tracks
- "Undead Again: The Making Of Land Of The Dead" featurette
- "A Day With The Living Dead" featurette
- "When Shaun Met George" featurette
- Deleted scenes

Unrated Version

- Runtime of 1 hour 37 mins
- Widescreen 2:35 ratio
- All of the featurettes, sound options, and commentary of the Rated version, plus:
- "Bringing The Dead To Life" featurette
- "Scenes Of Carnage" feature
- "Zombie Effects: From Green Screen To Finished Scene" feature
- "Bringing The Storyboards To Life" feature
- "Scream Tests: Zombie Casting Call" feature

No official final DVD artwork has been released yet, but it'll no doubt be the main theatrical poster in some form. Retail price is around $29.99.

[Bad Zombie Night]

Here's a pic of the DVD cover, just in case anybody was curious. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif




http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/ATZ%20Pics/LOTDDVD.jpg

[corgi37]

Good on ya, Steve P. I think it's us non-Americans that appreciate the film more. I simply cant believe LOTD didnt do better in the U.S. Opening week should have been huge, but wasnt. Word of mouth hadnt gone around. Reviews were mainly glowing. Yet, it flopped. WEll, sort of flopped.

Why?

Was it the early indications of a anti-administration theme to the movie?

I think so. I really do.

How else can you explain the lack-lustre performance for a 20 year anticipated movie? Either that, or alot of so-called "zombie fans" are just bullshit artists who dont like zombie movies at all. I mean, where was everybody on opening week end?

Oh, yeah, going to see Herbie!

[Ilovezombies!]

I can't figure out why it didn't do better either, I mean George was the one that orginally MADE dawn of the dead, and people show up in masses to see the remake,then hardly anyone shows up for a real zombie movie? So irritating, people don't know good movies for anything!

[Zombie Mark]

It didn't do well because most of us want to be scared/apprehensive of zombies, not made to sympathize with them. Thats it, not hard to understand.

[jackskellington]

Good on ya, Steve P. I think it's us non-Americans that appreciate the film more. I simply cant believe LOTD didnt do better in the U.S. Opening week should have been huge, but wasnt. Word of mouth hadnt gone around. Reviews were mainly glowing. Yet, it flopped. WEll, sort of flopped.

Why?

Was it the early indications of a anti-administration theme to the movie?

I think so. I really do.

How else can you explain the lack-lustre performance for a 20 year anticipated movie? Either that, or alot of so-called "zombie fans" are just bullshit artists who dont like zombie movies at all. I mean, where was everybody on opening week end?

Oh, yeah, going to see Herbie!

It flopped because it is a shitty movie plain and simple. As for the anti-administration theme, I don't like being preached at or told how to vote by my music or my movies but that had nothing to do with this movie failing. All of the zombie fans, including myself, were there when it opened but word of mouth spread very quickly on how much of a let down the movie was and that made alot of people stay home to wait on the DVD. Just because it's a Romero movie doesn't mean that EVERY zombie fan has to run out and see it.

[Sadogoat]

For those in the United Kingdom who have multi-region DVD players, you can now preorder Land Of The Dead (US Region 1) from PlayUSA.com for around £14.99. Linkage (http://www.playusa.com/playusa.asp?searchtype=r1title&searchstring=Land+Of+The+Dead&page=search).

[Zombie Survivor]

Man, I want the DVD badly... I need to save more money... (ordered RE:A and Creepshow1)

[Some_Day...]

Land premiers in London this weekend with Romero if anyone is interested!

[Darth Erroneous]

Land premiers in London this weekend with Romero if anyone is interested!
Can you send me airfare? I would love to attend! :lol:

[Steve P]

It didn't do well because most of us want to be scared/apprehensive of zombies, not made to sympathize with them. Thats it, not hard to understand.

Romero has always empathised with the zombies. Who were you cheering on when the bikers invaded the mall at the end of Dawn? And Bub was probably the most sympathetic character in Day.

It just isn't as commercial a film as the Dawn remake. It seems to me that a few people would rather Romero had re-made Dawn again. He didn't and made the logical, forth film in the series, albeit with some commercial compromises. Good for him, and it's the film I largely wanted to see.

[zombiekilling101]

I can't figure out why it didn't do better either, I mean George was the one that orginally MADE dawn of the dead, and people show up in masses to see the remake,then hardly anyone shows up for a real zombie movie? So irritating, people don't know good movies for anything!

DAwn of the Dead doesnt really have a big following. People showed up for Dawn casue of how much publiciity it was getting, I mean I saw Ving Rymes (spelling) on mtv talking about it and stuff.

[Zombpete]

Land premiers in London this weekend with Romero if anyone is interested!

This is good oh yes......

[Lefty44709]

Romero has always empathised with the zombies. Who were you cheering on when the bikers invaded the mall at the end of Dawn?



I wasn't rooting for the Zombies that's for sure. I don't really like that whole scene at all, all I remember thinking was why don't they just get on the damn Helicpoter and move on?

As for another reason given to why LOTD wasn't a hit in America... it had NOTHING to do with politics... that wasn't even that big a deal... no one in the main stream even mentioned it.

The movie just was BLAH... so no one cared about it. Most of the people would rather watch other movies besides Zombie Flicks. DOTD '04 was more of an action flick, than just a zombie flick.

[jackskellington]

I wasn't rooting for the Zombies that's for sure. I don't really like that whole scene at all, all I remember thinking was why don't they just get on the damn Helicpoter and move on?

As for another reason given to why LOTD wasn't a hit in America... it had NOTHING to do with politics... that wasn't even that big a deal... no one in the main stream even mentioned it.

The movie just was BLAH... so no one cared about it. Most of the people would rather watch other movies besides Zombie Flicks. DOTD '04 was more of an action flick, than just a zombie flick.

Great point! Also, the first few minutes of the Dawn remake were a PERFECT combination of action and horror. There was more in that first few minutes than there was in the entire length of Land. Plus, what little action scenes Land did have, were very slow and predictable with nothing new to show.

[Lefty44709]

Great point! Also, the first few minutes of the Dawn remake were a PERFECT combination of action and horror. There was more in that first few minutes than there was in the entire length of Land. Plus, what little action scenes Land did have, were very slow and predictable with nothing new to show.

Right, the best scene in LOTD of the dead was definitely the Priest Zombie scene, but everything else seemed to be less than "exciting" for lack of a better term.

I definitely didn't hate the movie like some people here. I mean, I WAS entertained by it. But to me it was just another movie. I forgot about it immediately afterwards.

I don't even blame Romero, you could tell he had a good concept, it just seemed rushed.

Also, is it me or does the story of his video game seem like a much better premise for the movie??? I would have loved to watch a group of people spending the first half of the movie trying to get to Fiddler's Green, only to find that it is a corrupt society.... That would have been fantastic!

[corgi37]

Gee, people must have hated Night, Dawn and Day then, Jacks. Aint much action and adventure and explosions in those 3 classics.

Nor was there any MTV style cuts, Nu-metal music, or digital FX. And, thankfully, no athletic zombies.

The action sequences in LOTD were indeed different to Dawn04. Thank God for that!

P.S. Got this from a U.K. dvd site. Dvdtimes.uk i think its called.

Universal Studios Home Video have announced the Region 1 DVD release of George A. Romero's Land of the Dead for 18th October 2005. The long-awaited fourth instalment in George A Romero's ‘Dead’ series, set in a walled city, which is mankind's last refuge against an army of evolving zombies.

Available in separate Unrated Director's Cut (97mins) and Theatrical Cut (93mins) editions (separate Widescreen and Full Screen versions on the former, Full Screen only the latter) both present the film with English DD5.1 & DTS 5.1 Surround audio options and English SDH, French and Spanish subtitles. The Theatrical Cut edition also features a French DD5.1 Surround audio track.

Bonus features on both Theatrical and Unrated Edition DVDs include:
Feature commentary with George A. Romero, Producer Peter Grunwald and Editor Michael Doherty
Undead Again: The Making of Land of the Dead
A Day with the Living Dead
The Remaining Bits
When Shaun Met George

Exclusive Unrated Edition bonus features include:
Bringing the Dead to Life
Scenes of Carnage
Zombie Effects: From Green Screen to Finished Scene
Bringing the Storyboards to Life
Scream Tests: Zombie Casting Call

[Bad Zombie Night]

Universal Studios Home Video have announced the Region 1 DVD release of George A. Romero's Land of the Dead for 18th October 2005. The long-awaited fourth instalment in George A Romero's ‘Dead’ series, set in a walled city, which is mankind's last refuge against an army of evolving zombies.

Available in separate Unrated Director's Cut (97mins) and Theatrical Cut (93mins) editions (separate Widescreen and Full Screen versions on the former, Full Screen only the latter) both present the film with English DD5.1 & DTS 5.1 Surround audio options and English SDH, French and Spanish subtitles. The Theatrical Cut edition also features a French DD5.1 Surround audio track.

Bonus features on both Theatrical and Unrated Edition DVDs include:
Feature commentary with George A. Romero, Producer Peter Grunwald and Editor Michael Doherty
Undead Again: The Making of Land of the Dead
A Day with the Living Dead
The Remaining Bits
When Shaun Met George

Exclusive Unrated Edition bonus features include:
Bringing the Dead to Life
Scenes of Carnage
Zombie Effects: From Green Screen to Finished Scene
Bringing the Storyboards to Life
Scream Tests: Zombie Casting Call
Sadogoat already posted this info several posts back. :) http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif

[Steve P]

all I remember thinking was why don't they just get on the damn Helicpoter and move on?

Because they had a sense of ownership over the mall. As Stephen says: "We took it. It's ours." It wasn't, of course. It belonged to the zombies, and they took it back in the end.

[Steve P]

the first few minutes of the Dawn remake were a PERFECT combination of action and horror.

Yup. The pre-credits sequence was the best part of the film.

[Cybopath]

I thought Land was really good. Very impressed. For some reason I thought smart zombies wouldn't work but it was done so well. I was at the Premiere in Edinburgh anyone else go?

I was so cheesed George Romero was sitting just over from me and I later got him to sign my trilogy of the dead DvDs.

Urge the rest of the country to go see it when it's realesed. Oh and even thoe it's rated 15 it's a gore fest!

Savini and Simon Pegg cameos where also very cool.

[corgi37]

Sorry badzombie.

[Zombie Survivor]

I can't say it enough... LotD RULES!!! #1 zombie movie in my list!

[Bad Zombie Night]

Sorry badzombie.
No apology required. :) http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Characters/1bnz_smiley.gif

[jackskellington]

Gee, people must have hated Night, Dawn and Day then, Jacks. Aint much action and adventure and explosions in those 3 classics.

Nor was there any MTV style cuts, Nu-metal music, or digital FX. And, thankfully, no athletic zombies.

Night, Dawn and Day were WAY different from Land. They all had an impact because they showed things that nobody had seen or done before. I couldn't care less about the soundtrack, but Land had absolutely nothing to offer including any element of horror whatsoever. I think alot of people are wrong about this movie becoming a classic over the next 10 years or so. The only way that can happen is if Romero puts out something even worse which I don't think is possible.

[Steve P]

Night, Dawn and Day were WAY different from Land. They all had an impact because they showed things that nobody had seen or done before.

Herschell Gordon Lewis made Blood Feast in 1963 and 2000 Maniacs in '64. Both were clear influences on Romero when he made Night. As was Hitchcock's The Birds, also made in '63.

Night of the Living Dead wasn't particularly original except in that it added politics and French "new wave" cinematography into the mix.

Nothing wrong with that, of course, and it's a wonderful film. But there's nothing there people hadn't seen before.

[jackskellington]

Herschell Gordon Lewis made Blood Feast in 1963 and 2000 Maniacs in '64. Both were clear influences on Romero when he made Night. As was Hitchcock's The Birds, also made in '63.

Night of the Living Dead wasn't particularly original except in that it added politics and French "new wave" cinematography into the mix.

Nothing wrong with that, of course, and it's a wonderful film. But there's nothing there people hadn't seen before.

It had corpses eating people as well as a black man playing the lead which was VERY rare in that day and age. Having him smack Barbara in an attempt to calm her down was a pretty bold move back then as well. It had an impact with it's social statements as well as the horror element. Land was just another horror movie with nothing significant to offer. As Lefty noted on an earlier post, I had pretty much forgotten about the movie by the time I got home from the theater.

[corgi37]

But LAND was never meant to be a ground breaking movie. Times have changed. No one here is the same as when DAY came out. We've changed. Movie making styles have changed (not always for the better).

What Romero gave us with LAND was a totally new vision for his saga. It is easily NOT a horror movie. Aint meant to be. It IS more overtly political, and he 100% has definate things he wanted to say. I think that aspect is what makes the movie so much more than just a teen drive-in popcorn flick like the DAWN remake. As ok as i thought that movie was/is, it just doesnt have a soul.

LOTD does. To me anyway. It is an intelligent movie, set in a zombie genre. In fact, a review in Melbourne's broadsheet paper, said LOTD is one of the most important U.S. movies this year! The reviewer has it at #2 of his best movies released. Thats going a bit far i think, but that bloke obviously got it. I got it. Most people didnt.

Its all cool.

[jackskellington]

But LAND was never meant to be a ground breaking movie. .

No, but it was supposed to be his "Ultimate zombie masterpiece."


What Romero gave us with LAND was a totally new vision for his saga. It is easily NOT a horror movie. Aint meant to be.

A movie called Land of the Dead concerning reanimated corpses attacking and eating the flesh of the living is NOT meant to be a horror movie?


It IS more overtly political, and he 100% has definate things he wanted to say. I think that aspect is what makes the movie so much more than just a teen drive-in popcorn flick like the DAWN remake.

The political thing keeps rearing it's ugly head, and you're absolutely right about it. It's just great that GAR has some things to say, whether people agree with them or not, and it's fine if he puts them in the movie in some small way, but don't sacrifice the ENTIRE movie to preach at us. If I want your political opinion I'll read your autobiography, but if you got famous by making horror movies and this is supposed to be your big triumphant return to that, then give us that. Wow, a movie director/singer/actor is upset and disagrees with the current political climate...Blah, Blah, Blah...How many times do we have to hear about this? That's great that they have opinions and views, but I paid my quarter and I want my ride!! I can think for myself thank you very much!

[Zombie Mark]

In fact, a review in Melbourne's broadsheet paper, said LOTD is one of the most important U.S. movies this year! The reviewer has it at #2 of his best movies released. Thats going a bit far i think, but that bloke obviously got it. I got it. Most people didnt.

Well, I think you're wrong - we ALL got the political messages (Bush is evil, the rich don't care about the poor, the oppressed will rise up and take revenge, blah, blah, blah...). They're really not all that subtle.

I could have accepted all those things if the movie made me feel the least bit of fear, dread, apprehension, etc. - the emotions generated by the zombie movies which I enjoy (e.g., Dawn '78, NOTLD, even the Dawn Remake). As an analogy, "Apocalypse Now" and "Platoon" are full of anti-war messages, but they are still interesting and exciting, so I can thoroughly enoy the experience without buying into the message. LOTD simply failed to provide the experience I expect from a quality, non-campy zombie film. I almost felt like I was watching a "documentary" on monsters eating assholes - interesting, but clinical.

[zombiekilling101]

I could have accepted all those things if the movie made me feel the least bit of fear, dread, apprehension, etc. - .

the thing is, Romero didnt intent for us to feel any of those emotions. remember we are ignoring the dead, not thinking of how our world is screwed. If you ignore the problem, you dont feel the fear of the dread of the situation. In that, romero succedded 100%

[jackskellington]

the thing is, Romero didnt intent for us to feel any of those emotions. remember we are ignoring the dead, not thinking of how our world is screwed. If you ignore the problem, you dont feel the fear of the dread of the situation. In that, romero succedded 100%

Good point ZK, the whole thing about us ignoring them and pretending the problem didn't exist worked like a charm, but shouldn't that have made it even MORE terrifying in the attack scenes when we were forced to face the "problem" head on? Even those scenes were a big yawn.

[Sadogoat]

Personally, I don't feel Land Of The Dead's political satire was too "in your face". But then I'm not American, so perhaps that makes me less "directly" attuned to its alleged parallels with the Bush administration and its policies. That said, I watch Romero's movies to be entertained, and thus I watch them as zombie movies without making a point of heeding any underlying commentaries too much. Sure, I can reflect on such afterwards - but they don't interfere with my enjoyment of the film while watching it. The main appeal of the 'Dead' series to me is seeing the overall picture of a society in total collapse - not the individual commentaries on human nature relayed in each film. Sure, they compliment the whole - but I never consider them to individually be the dominant aspect of any of the films (for me at least). Just my 2c.

[Lefty44709]

In fact, a review in Melbourne's broadsheet paper, said LOTD is one of the most important U.S. movies this year! The reviewer has it at #2 of his best movies released. .


How in the world is LOTD an "important" movie? Please. I'm not even sure how to respond to that.

[zombiekilling101]

Good point ZK, the whole thing about us ignoring them and pretending the problem didn't exist worked like a charm, but shouldn't that have made it even MORE terrifying in the attack scenes when we were forced to face the "problem" head on? Even those scenes were a big yawn.

I dont see how they could have been boring. I mean, everyone is trying to compare it to the old trilogy and these deaths were the same and even better and more elaborate.

The zombie pulling the meat out of the mans mouth, bell button ring pull, hand grenade blowing a man in half. those and more all stand up to the originals and even out do them.

[corgi37]

Lefty - I think the reviewer was comparing (favourably) LOTD to the usual Hollywood crap like Herbie, Dukes and all the amazingly bad remakes. It's been a terrible year for American cinema, in my opinion. Hardly an original idea at all. Trouble is, GAR gave us something original, and people didnt get/like it. I think the journo went on a bit, but at least he had the intelligence to appreciate it.

In more news, LOTD now #13 here in Oz. Massive 56% drop this past week. It will be its last. Has earned $1.2mill here. Not bad at all. And, that is with cinema ticket prices being slashed by $3.00 to try to get people back to the flicks. It's average screen takings this week were a woeful $775.00 per screen.

So, thats it for Oz. It will be gone by next Thursday. Bring on the dvd.

[zombiekilling101]

Lefty - I think the reviewer was comparing (favourably) LOTD to the usual Hollywood crap like Herbie, Dukes and all the amazingly bad remakes. It's been a terrible year for American cinema, in my opinion. Hardly an original idea at all. Trouble is, GAR gave us something original, and people didnt get/like it. I think the journo went on a bit, but at least he had the intelligence to appreciate it.

In more news, LOTD now #13 here in Oz. Massive 56% drop this past week. It will be its last. Has earned $1.2mill here. Not bad at all. And, that is with cinema ticket prices being slashed by $3.00 to try to get people back to the flicks. It's average screen takings this week were a woeful $775.00 per screen.

So, thats it for Oz. It will be gone by next Thursday. Bring on the dvd.

Land conqued Oz nicely done. Englands next:evil:

[jackskellington]

I dont see how they could have been boring. I mean, everyone is trying to compare it to the old trilogy and these deaths were the same and even better and more elaborate.

The zombie pulling the meat out of the mans mouth, bell button ring pull, hand grenade blowing a man in half. those and more all stand up to the originals and even out do them.

LOVED the scene of the zombie pulling the meat out from inside the throat, but as for the rest of it, I was just bored by it. Maybe I'm just becoming immune to it with all the violence in real life nowadays, but I think that the story in Land was so boring to me that it affected even the supposedly exciting scenes. Night was big for me because I was only 7 when I saw it. Dawn was big because it was just an absolute brutal film violence wise and still is to this day. Day was a gorefest which I loved at the time because I was only 15 when I saw it. Nowadays I guess I just want more of a story to make me care about what happens to the characters. Who knows...If I had seen Land when I was 15 I may have loved it!!

[jackskellington]

... I think the journo went on a bit, but at least he had the intelligence to appreciate it.

So are those of us who didn't appreciate this movie unintelligent? What's that got to do with anything? This wasn't some life changing movie with deep stirring messages.

In more news, LOTD now #13 here in Oz. Massive 56% drop this past week. It will be its last. It's average screen takings this week were a woeful $775.00 per screen.

Sounds like word of mouth spread pretty quickly over there, huh?

[zombiekilling101]

I think it dropped so fast becasue, like Corgi said, alot of the people dont go to the movies overthere anymore, thus after the intial wave of movie lovers went, the money dropped down.

[jackskellington]

I think it dropped so fast becasue, like Corgi said, alot of the people dont go to the movies overthere anymore, thus after the intial wave of movie lovers went, the money dropped down.

You can put a pretty ribbon on a turd, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a turd! :lol:

[zombiekilling101]

You can put a pretty ribbon on a turd, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a turd! :lol:

Aw shut your pie hole:) :lol:

Land Rocks Case Closed:clap:

[jackskellington]

LOL...Let's just agree to disagree, but come October 18th, I'll be saving my money!

[Lefty44709]

Lefty - I think the reviewer was comparing (favourably) LOTD to the usual Hollywood crap like Herbie, Dukes and all the amazingly bad remakes. It's been a terrible year for American cinema, in my opinion. Hardly an original idea at all. Trouble is, GAR gave us something original, and people didnt get/like it. I think the journo went on a bit, but at least he had the intelligence to appreciate it.


It's definitely not an "important" movie. Better than some of the other garbage out there? Maybe... Important? Definitely not.

Anyway, in the scheme of things, no one will change anyone else's mind, so what's the point really???

I don't see anything wrong with one person liking a movie, and someone else hating it... I actually think that's the whole point of art in the first place anyway... (although I think that whole conversation was brought up a long time ago...)

[corgi37]

Yeah, but it fun to argue.

[Lefty44709]

That's true! :evil:

Unfortunately for me, I neither hate or love this movie, so I'm not too personally involved in the argument.

[HOO-HAA]

I finally (thanks to the Sarge) got watching this movie last night/ this morning at 3am, after pretty much drinking all day :drinking:

I'm not sure what to think... I reckon I'm a little dissappointed by it, but I still enjoyed it. I don't think it's much of a classic.. yet I also don't think it's a terrible movie. Just somewhere inbetween.

What don't I like about it? Well,the storyline felt a little disjointed. The dark environment throughout the movie seemed to have no definition... it was difficult to work out where the characters were all the time and the zombies almost seemed to have a secondary role.

What did I like? Well, Big Daddy was good. The girls were very horny and the hero was fairly credible. Dennis Hopper's character's death scene was very good too..

[zombiekilling101]

Yeah, but it fun to argue.

keeps things uptempo as well

[Zen Buddakhan]

What would people haved like to see, to make LOTD a really great movie?

(IMO)...A madmax/waterworld mariner (wolverine??) type loner, say fresh from Australia, arrives in town, flying a stolen hybrid powered C130 transport aircraft, with the Interceptor (car) with dog and monkey in tow, hell add a parrot.
Some young bastards steal his dog (for dog/zombie pit fighting? or just hotdog?) and take off to Fiddlers Green, forcing our Hero to go there and end up in a deal with the Man to steal back Dead Reckoning?...chuck in handing over arsenal at the security gate and some thunder dome fight scenes?
Give our Hero new secret hi-tech gadgets and weapons and a powersource....(coldfusion?) that the people of FG have never seen before?

Well thats the end of this fantasy! I just love the whole post apocalyptic world!(PAW)
~Zen :)

[HOO-HAA]

What would people haved like to see, to make LOTD a really great movie?

(IMO)...A madmax/waterworld mariner (wolverine??) type loner, say fresh from Australia, arrives in town, flying a stolen hybrid powered C130 transport aircraft, with the Interceptor (car) with dog and monkey in tow, hell add a parrot.
Some young bastards steal his dog (for dog/zombie pit fighting? or just hotdog?) and take off to Fiddlers Green, forcing our Hero to go there and end up in a deal with the Man to steal back Dead Reckoning?...chuck in handing over arsenal at the security gate and some thunder dome fight scenes?
Give our Hero new secret hi-tech gadgets and weapons and a powersource....(coldfusion?) that the people of FG have never seen before?

Well thats the end of this fantasy! I just love the whole post apocalyptic world!(PAW)
~Zen :)

Hmmmm... You've been drinking again, haven't you, Zen? :lol:

[warior 13]

Land of the Dead wasn't that bad, its way better than any shit low budget zombie movie (which there are too many of).

[Zen Buddakhan]

Hmmmm... You've been drinking again, haven't you, Zen? :lol:
If I was really drunk there would have been more porn involved! :lol:

[Slumlord]

I just love the whole post apocalyptic world!(PAW)
~Zen :)

Ah, I always wondered what that acronym meant. Now I know and my internet lingo has upped a notch.

[Zen Buddakhan]

Glad to have been of service!...hmmm...ATM's not just a money machine either? :lol:

[Shredmonkey]

Well, I finally got to see Land of the Dead at long last. I dragged myself down to London to watch it at the Frightfest. Following a talk from Greg Nicotero and an introduction from Romero himself they rolled the film. After waiting for nigh on 20 years would I be dissapointed? Would all the negative reviews I'd read here prove to be true for me?

In short. No. Does the film stand alongside Night, Dawn, and Day? For me, possibly not. But not because I believe the film to be lacking in any way. More because I believe it to be a film made 20 years after the previous one, a film of it's time not of the past. Romeros direction is sharper than ever with the film seeming reemarkably tight. Yes, it may have been lacking in the famous 'peaks and valleys' of his other works. But from the very first frame he managed to hold me in my seat.

The acting was above and beyond any previous dead film, even Hopper turned in a remarkably restrained performance yet still allowed the 'cooler' aspects of his character to shine through in certain key scenes. I wont dissect the other key actors. I'll leave that up to the 'experts' who seem to enjoy doing that far more than I do.

If you are looking for something simmilar to Dawn or Day then look elsewhere. But remember, those films were chalk and cheese too. I remember only too clearly the derision Day met with on its release. Land is an action film. Sure you can dig down and take as much message from it as you wish. But you can also sit back and revel in the ride. It really is constantly entertaining and Romero keeps things on the boil in a way Zack Snyder can still only dream about. Tight direction, slick editing, top notch effects work and wonderful set pieces abound. Yet still Romero manages to avoid the 'Music videoitis' afflicting many horror movies today.

Now for the zombies themselves. Much has been written about what is 'right' or 'wrong' about them. I personally loved the direction they are taking. The wonderful switch with humans and zombies. Now the zombies are the ones trying to get on with their 'lives' whilst the humans are very much the destructive force. The zombies seem so much more determined now, more skilled, and almost vengeful in their attacks on the humans. I find this a wonderful compromise between the shambling hordes of yesteryear and the turbo charged zombies of the Dawn remake. sure, they may not sprint, but these guys seem determined to **** you up.

I went in there expecting to be let down. I was expecting to walk out of that cinema thinking 'It was okay....but not what I wanted'. Instead I left thinking Romero had done us all proud. He had updated the mythology and treated us to balls to the wall zombie action movie. Roll on the next one.

[Darth Erroneous]

Very well said, Shredmonkey! :clap:

[Zombie Survivor]

Yeah Shredmonkey, that's what I feel to. LotD rocks!

[corgi37]

Wow, several positive posts in a row! I feel like weeping.

[Lefty44709]

Should I break the streak? Nah........ :)

I'm going to rent the DVD when it comes out and it give it a second look, sometimes I like a movie much better the 2nd time around...

[Kemper]

Everyone has this idea in there head about what a Romero movie should look like and when it goes against what they were expecting...well, they can't handle something different.

I really enjoyed it and it was a departure in many ways from other Romero movies. I had alot of fun with this movie and will watch it over and over. It has that factor that is very important to me.

[Lefty44709]

A major problem is that we just had 28 Days Later (Much Deeper...), the DOTD remake (much more exciting/entertaining), and Shaun of the Dead (just plain better) to compare this movie to.

Maybe taken on it's own LOTD would be viewed better, but when compared to recent releases, I personally don't think that it matched up.

[Kemper]

For me it had social commentary (28 Days). Action (Dawn)., and some great humor (Shaun...overrated...of the dead).

I have only seen it once because of work, but i was very satisfied. I didn't let myself get too close like alot of fans did.