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zombie2005

05-10-2005, 06:52 PM

Official Date October 7th 2005 will be the theater release of ROTLD 4

Read some information on this movie frmo other sites, sorry didnt save the address ofr those sites but here is some comments I read.

Comedy, this movie wasn't meant to be serious. Zombies use weapons on this film.

These zombies can be killed in the head, or necks snapped. This is new the orginal ROTLD zombies couldnt not be killed unless bodies were completly burned to ashes.

Gore, from what i heard is very good. Lots of it also

Also a teen horror movie

Personally, I'll wait for the dvd. More then likey it will be released in limited theaters.

DocZomby

05-10-2005, 07:39 PM

I too will wait for the DVD release. Past the original, I haven't seen much to get excited about from this series. Knowing it's being billed as a "teen horror" flick makes it sound about as appealing as buzzard puss. I'll just hope for the best and praise it if warrented.

hungryzombie

05-11-2005, 11:47 AM

Yeah...I always get excited when a new Zombie flick is released but this doesn't sound very good. The original ROTLD was pretty good but the series went downhill from there. And regarding this newest installment, I'm not much for the comedy angle or zombies with weapons. No thanks...I'll probably check it out on DVD.

hungryzombie

05-11-2005, 02:56 PM

Actually...SOTD was a very well made zombie "comedy" so I can't say I don't like any comedies in the genre. SOTD was the exception though. I can't think of many others that were produced as comedies that are high on my list.

SGT. DEATH

05-11-2005, 03:39 PM

I will go to the cinema to see this even if it is crap,I liked most of the series.

hungryzombie

05-11-2005, 07:53 PM

Hell, I'm sure its better than House of the Dead and I saw that one at the theatre. Who knows...maybe I'll venture out to the local multiplex if it looks good enough to fork out $8.00 one night. After all, a zombie film is a zombie film.

Pain

05-11-2005, 08:11 PM

I am finding it really hard to get exciting about either Pt 4 or Pt 5 after seeing the trailers. Hopefully i'll be pleasantly surprised and they will be fun.

If they do get a cinema release over here (and i doubt they will) then i will go and see them. I just won't get my hopes up.

as_i_lay_dying

05-11-2005, 09:08 PM

i honestly thought the series sucked. But thats my opinion.

The Blind Dead

05-11-2005, 11:19 PM

I can't freakin wait! BRING ON THE CHEESE!

SYL

05-12-2005, 12:57 AM

FALSE!The zombies CANNOT be killed. I repeat the zombies CANNOT be killed.I have got proof.

http://www.upcominghorrormovies.com/movies/rotld4.php

read the second thing under the "Latest News" caption.It's actually starting to look good I find.

as_i_lay_dying

05-12-2005, 05:44 PM

The Blind Dead

05-12-2005, 08:50 PM

thats wut i didnt like about the movies, and that the zombies could talk. and in the first when the one zombie goes "brains, more brains" i laughed cause it was so stupid, but like hungry zombie said, a zombie movie is a zombie movie.
Not to be sarcastic but...IT WAS A COMEDY. Talking zombies demanding more brains. There's no pretentious socio-political commentary here, it's silly parody.

zombie2005

05-12-2005, 10:47 PM

Agree, to me really part 1 did have comedy but did have serious horror in it also.

Do all zombie movies have to be romero type zombies?

Seriously if ROTLD 4 & 5 can't even get support from the biggest zombies fans then it will be a failure.

I said it before, way to many zombies movies are being made as comedy, it takes out the "Horror" in it.

GAR Series, 28 days later, DOTD 04, and NOTLD 90 and maybe the zombie series are the only serious "horror" film made in the zombie genre out of how many?

BRUZE

05-13-2005, 12:07 AM

hungryzombie

05-13-2005, 12:31 AM

I'm definitelt waiting til DVD on this....if I even decide to see it at all. Hell, I still haven't seen ROTLD 3 after 2 sufficiently destroyed my interest in the series.

I'll always love the first one.

Yeah, it took me years and years to watch part 3 of the series. But to tell the truth, because it is a high profile zombie movie, I'll probably go check it out if it's being shown locally. I'm weak when it comes to ghouls and the undead.

Joe_Cool

05-13-2005, 01:14 AM

Dead-Central

05-13-2005, 07:06 AM

I have an excellent interview with Billy Butler, the writer of these two films on my site Dead-Central.com (http://dead-central.com), and he gets into depth on the zombies in these films.
I'm actually looking forward to both of them since I spoke with him, and hopefully I'll have some updates from him on their release dates.

BTW DEAD-CENTRAL.COM is going thru some updates and there will be a brand new version of it lauched soon.

as_i_lay_dying

05-13-2005, 06:58 PM

Do all zombie movies have to be romero type zombies?

well im not saying zombies have to be romero style, but I prefer romeros zombies. Romeros zombies are brilliant. His view on how zombies look and act are what made his movies scary.

there is always a zombie movie out there, that even the most hardcore zombie fan will dislike.

ROTLD didnt catch my attention

Divided Soul

05-18-2005, 04:08 PM

Yes, the original was a comedy too... Send more cops!

Alien

05-20-2005, 10:33 AM

Romero zombies are by far the best it goes without saying. Not just his zombies, his films are also far superior to other zombie flicks. Most zombie films are a disgrace to humanity.

Slumlord

05-20-2005, 01:41 PM

Yes, the original was a comedy too... Send more cops!

And don't forget in Return of the Living Dead 2 when all the zombies were being electrocuted the Michael Jackson Thiller zombie jumping out and getting electrocuted and spazzing out. I laughed my ass of when that happened... :lol:

Divided Soul

05-20-2005, 10:51 PM

Oh man that was the funniest... :)

SYL

05-20-2005, 11:10 PM

When I saw that Micheal Jackson thriller zombie show up I got pissed off.There is a fine line between subtle comedy,and blatent comedy.Part 1 used subtle humour magnifisantly.Part 2 was just too in your face,and as a result of that I and many many others didn't like it nearly as much.

Although highly unlikely,I hope the new films are more along the lines of Part 1 in the style of humour they use.

Slumlord

05-21-2005, 05:56 PM

To be honest though I never was a really big fan of any of the Return of the Living Dead movies. Return of the Living Dead 1 was the first time I ever saw zombies running thier ass off, that just ruined the movie for me in general since at the time I was only used to a Romero zombie.

They just rank as 'okay' but I'll still watch these new ones even though "Rave from the Grave" looks completely retarded.

jackskellington

05-23-2005, 08:44 PM

Isn't part 5 called "Rave from the Grave" or something like that? Just having the word "Rave" in the title is enough to keep me away!! Wasn't House of the Dead a rave party? 'Nuff said. But as for the series as a whole...Part 1 was absolutely kick ass!! Punk rock and the living dead...It just doesn't get any better than that. By the way, I forgot to post it last week but Happy Birthday Joey Ramone!! If any of you listen to Fungus 53 on XM radio I hope you caught that 24 hours of Ramones on his birthday. For those of you upset about me saying that on a zombie forum, they did the theme song for Pet Semetary 1 which had reanimated corpses so there...justified!!

Divided Soul

05-24-2005, 03:09 PM

You raise an interesting question JackSkellington.... Were the creatures from Pet cemetary zombies? I mean the little boy bit the old guys face.... hmmmm

jackskellington

05-24-2005, 05:13 PM

Even though I did bring it up, I don't know if I would call them zombies. Then again, do the living dead have to eat their victims to be called zombies? I know it's best that way moviewise but is cannabalism part of the title? 28 Days Later is referred to alot here but did they eat their victims? In fact, were they even dead? I honestly don't remember if they did or didn't so maybe someone could help me with that. By the way aw3sk3r...I notice you're from Boston and since I referred to punk rock in talking about ROTLD 1 I have to let you know that one of the greatest bands around in punk right now is from your area...Dropkick Murphys. Are you a fan?

Joe_Cool

05-25-2005, 02:57 PM

You raise an interesting question JackSkellington.... Were the creatures from Pet cemetary zombies? I mean the little boy bit the old guys face.... hmmmm

In a sense they are. They're closer to Haitian voodoo zombies than Romero zombies though.

I definitely wouldn't call it a zombie story though. It's about magic and people not being able to let go of people who die. The reanimated bodies are incidental. It's not really about them, you know?

Divided Soul

05-26-2005, 03:01 PM

jackskellington

05-26-2005, 07:58 PM

Very cool!! I LOVED Tessie and I was all excited today when they were playing a brand new song on Fungus 53 from their upcoming album "The Warriors Code", but sadly, the song sucked!! It was called "Sunshine Highway" or something like that and it was just terrible. Oh well, maybe the rest of the album will make up for it. 'Nuff said about that...back to the zombies!!!

jackskellington

05-28-2005, 11:24 AM

aw3sk3r,(what does that mean anyway?), I was just checking out the DKM site and it just so happens that the new album "Warriors Code" hits stores on 6/21 just before Land and track 4 is a little diddy entitled "The Walking Dead." Just thought that was interesting!!

eye rot

05-30-2005, 03:24 AM

I loved the ROTLD series! I am looking forward to seeing part 4. I hope it comes to theater's and does not just go straight to video. As long as it's better than part three, that's all that matter's.Part three sucked, I mean, I own it and everything but it doesn't get too much play time. :axe:

Bad Zombie Night

05-30-2005, 03:36 AM

aw3sk3r,(what does that mean anyway?)

Check out this post js: Congrats! You Moved Up in Rank! Post #98 (http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showpost.php?p=73553&postcount=98)

jackskellington

05-30-2005, 07:41 AM

Gotcha! It's still a bit confusing but thanks for the explanation!!

Bad Zombie Night

05-31-2005, 08:51 AM

Gotcha! It's still a bit confusing but thanks for the explanation!!

Glad I could help. :mrgreen:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/bzn123/Smileys/Signs/3.gif

This film is scheduled to be released 10/17/2005

I hope it's worth the wait.

Darth Erroneous

06-11-2005, 06:50 PM

The first one was great. Zombies and a goth chick stripping in the cemetery. The second one was better because we got to see a zombie Michael Jackson get electrocuted plus it had Burt and Freddy in it again. The third I watched once and felt dirty. I can only hope for the fourth one to be somewhat better.

jackskellington

06-11-2005, 06:54 PM

Darth Erroneous

06-11-2005, 09:49 PM

"Felt Dirty" was just a way to say that it wasn't good. Kind of like when you go outside and roll around in the mud for no reason then try to go back inside and sit on the couch and everyone is like, "you're Filthy..." :lol: I just really didn't like it. :roll:

zombiekilling101

06-13-2005, 06:17 PM

they showed a bunch of clips from it at the fango convention.. and all though the acting was kind of bad.. the gore was really really good. and i met the cast and they were young, "good looking", and really nice and cool so maybe it will be decent.

ill go to the theater release probably

BrandonVarnell

06-15-2005, 02:09 AM

Hmm, ive seen a few Pictures of this but i dont know anything about it.. i didnt read any replys to this so i dont know if anyone said or linked any of this but does anyone know

Where i can get a story/plot summary

OR

A trailer? or official site? or a site where i can get info on it?

jackskellington

06-15-2005, 04:19 PM

Darth Erroneous

06-17-2005, 09:44 PM

I saw that the release date is 10-07. I also saw that the release date for ROTLD 5 is the same day. Sounds like direct to DVD to me. :drool:

tarman

06-17-2005, 10:04 PM

woo hoo! same day! and at least if they are released direct to dvd, and if they suck, then it will not be known to the general non-zombie public and! i will be able to own them right away.

i was kinda hopin' that undead wouldn't come out in theaters either. at least land of the dead comes out first, so it doesn't stop the zombie movie momentum. i'll probably eat these words later, but i saw the first 15-20 minutes of undead and i was mortified! i couldn't even watch anymore. i'll have to see the whole movie to judge it fairly. i really hope that i can like that movie.

but! return of the living dead 4 and 5 - if they are better than 3, then i am a happy camper! :)

Bobby Bloodfeast

06-18-2005, 10:02 AM

I'm a HUGE R.O.T.L.D. fan, If it makes it to my theaters I will DEFINATLY be there...hell I go see horror flims I KNOW that I won't like just to support the genre...but hey that's just me.

Mervin Chip Chipperson

06-20-2005, 07:29 PM

After reading this guys experiences and the following quote from the Fangoria Convention, I am a lot more excited about both the sequels.

He wrote these two films with the first 'Return Of The Living Dead' in mind and it showed in the subtle black humor of the featured clips. "I don't know. I know a lot of you out there like 'Return Of The Living Dead 3', but I hated that one. I wanted to get back to what the first one was like."

Sounds like the films are in good hands (I hated RotLD3).

http://www.iconsoffright.com/FangoSAT05.htm

Kemper

06-20-2005, 08:05 PM

i'm excited to see the movie though i tempering my hopes. The first return is one of my favorites. Its Re-watchability factor is way off the scale. I can't get enough of it.

It has gone down with each movie so hopefully this one can stem the tide.

Bad Zombie Night

06-21-2005, 05:13 AM

The only thing is that, we can't see it until October... :x

Isn't Return of the Living Dead 5: Rave From the Grave supposed to debut at the same time?

jackskellington

09-09-2005, 11:42 AM

Looks as if Sci Fi channel is gonna play both of the new sequels!! I'm sure they'll be a bit edited, but it's better than wasting money on a movie you end up not liking!

Living Dead Return on SciFi
Sep. 8, 2005

Source: SciFi.com
by: Pat Torfe

It's been a while since we heard any info on the upcoming RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD sequels, other than news that both films (NECROPOLIS and RAVE TO THE GRAVE) were looking at an October 7th limited release with RAVE being released first. However, according to SciFi.com, both films will be heading to TV, debuting October 15th on the Sci-Fi Channel, leaving the limited theatrical release up in the air.

Click here for the schedule!!!
http://www.scifi.com/schedulebot/index.php3?date=15-OCT-2005&feed_req

The Blind Dead

09-09-2005, 01:02 PM

I'm looking forward to them no matter what! I figured these wouldn't hit theaters even when the company said they would. These look way to cheap and shitty for theater release. I'm still expecting gory things! Gory things indeed!

Fat Ian

09-11-2005, 08:10 PM

Ill probably see it on a friday afternoon when ive got nothing better to do. The only one worth watching in the series is the first IMHO.

corgi37

09-13-2005, 07:33 AM

Darth Erroneous

09-13-2005, 08:32 AM

Has the 1st one been re-issued on dvd yet? I recall reading about it months and months ago. Not so much that its coming out, but that it should I would love a Return of the Living Dead - Special Edition.

I am sure there are some great stories to tell. And a cast commentary (featuring my fave 80's chick, Linnea Quigley) would be great.
To my knowledge the only re-issue was done a couple of years ago around October. All I remember is going to Best Buy and seeing about 20 copies on the shelf (Where before I never saw them). I agree, it would be sweet to see some extras on that film. :)

Darth Erroneous

09-13-2005, 08:35 AM

Looks as if Sci Fi channel is gonna play both of the new sequels!! I'm sure they'll be a bit edited, but it's better than wasting money on a movie you end up not liking!

So what' the deal? They are both going to be in the theater as well as on TV? Or are they going to the theater as well as for sale? This whole marketing plan is giving me a headache... :x

Dagnammit

09-13-2005, 09:13 AM

So what' the deal? They are both going to be in the theater as well as on TV? Or are they going to the theater as well as for sale? This whole marketing plan is giving me a headache... :x

My money would be on a limited theatrical release, for the hardcore midnight movie brigade, or at most a national/world tour a la Bubba Ho Tep. You see, the ROTLD series isn't high-profile enough to warrant a wide cinema release for it's third and fourth sequels. Moreover, it's far too soon after the release of Land of the Dead for the studio to come up with an original and exciting ad campaign to get fresh bums on seats; the general public can only handle one big theatrical zombie movie in any given twelve-month period before they start fidgeting.

I predict that after the limited cinema run the movies will be edited into a suitable form for broadcast on the Sci-Fi Channel. Finally, a few weeks after it's cable TV showing, the uncut versions will most likely be released onto DVD.

Dead Remains

09-13-2005, 03:23 PM

i have a theater by me that plays indepent movies and limited release movies, i so hope they show rotld4 there!

The Blind Dead

09-13-2005, 05:50 PM

Now that they're slating these for premier on the Sci-Fi Channel, it's highly doubtful this will see theaterical release...limited or otherwise.

jackskellington

09-14-2005, 08:06 PM

I'd like to see it in the theaters, but it would probably only be shown in those back alley dollar theaters where your car gets broken into while you're inside. I'm all for these things coming to Sci Fi and then DVD so I can watch them comfortably. I love seeing movies in the theaters, but in a series such as Return, it honestly doesn't warrant a theatrical release.

The Blind Dead

09-14-2005, 08:09 PM

Very true. Plus...nowadays, low-budget films like these don't see theater release like they used to. From what I'm seeing these are mucho crap. I can't wait hahaha

Pain

09-14-2005, 08:17 PM

Now that they're slating these for premier on the Sci-Fi Channel, it's highly doubtful this will see theaterical release...limited or otherwise.

I have more chance of winning a line dancing competetion against Santa Claus in the lost city of Atlantis than seeing this in a theatre in the UK :x

Slumlord

09-14-2005, 10:01 PM

Now that they're slating these for premier on the Sci-Fi Channel, it's highly doubtful this will see theaterical release...limited or otherwise.

That's cool. I wish I had Tivo for something like this.

Kemper

09-14-2005, 10:29 PM

which one shot scenes at chernobyl

The Blind Dead

09-14-2005, 10:38 PM

which one shot scenes at chernobyl
Necropolis (pt.4)

The Blind Dead

09-15-2005, 03:54 AM

Here's a mucho nasty review for Rave to the Grave which they listed as part 5. It'll be titled part 4 in the US. I normally trust the reviews at Joblo.com so this isn't looking all that good for the series. I don't mean to sound prejudiced or anything but when I read an interview with the foreign guy who snagged the rights to this...all I kept thinking was "What a parasite!". I believe it was printed in the newest Fango issue. I'm really hoping for something...anything from these next two but it's a shame that this franchise wasn't picked up by somebody who was actually a FAN of the series. From all appearances this was strictly a money-grab move.

http://joblo.com/arrow/reviews.php?id=961

Dismal

09-25-2005, 04:31 PM

I cant wait to see these movies this october.

The Blind Dead

09-26-2005, 02:06 PM

I wouldn't get too excited lol I'm hearing mucho bad things about the films and it's coming from hardcore Return fans. I normally don't take any reviews from other sites into account until I see a film for myself but most horror review sites are agreeing with my own contacts reviews. I'm thinking these are going to be shabby...barely breathing entries. I'll still purchase them, of course, but it's starting to look like these next two are going to make the last two look like Casablanca and The Wizard of Oz.

Barbra's brother

09-26-2005, 02:43 PM

I've seen quite a bit of bad reviews too! I'll have to rent it just to say I saw it, but I'm definitely not having very high expectations of this. But, with Halloween just around the corner, I need a bunch of new zombie movies to show that evening. I'll have plenty-o-cheez for that night anyway! LOL!

corgi37

09-28-2005, 09:14 AM

Instead of releasing what looks like terrifyingly bad crap, how about just releasing the original on dvd with heaps of extras.

Like a Linnea Quigley photo gallery.

doctorFreakazoid

09-28-2005, 10:58 AM

I'd still rent it, but I agree. An upgraded rerelease would be the shite!

maggothead

09-30-2005, 08:44 PM

The Blind Dead

09-30-2005, 08:58 PM

I'll wait till they're released to DVD.

jackskellington

10-01-2005, 03:06 AM

FINALLY! I just found out that Return of The Living Dead 4 & 5 are to be released Oct. 15, 2005 on sci-fi channel. Go to sci-fi.com to see your local schedule. I know they might cut out some good stuff, but I guess we'll have to settle. :clap:

Old news...See post number 48...

http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showpost.php?p=116571&postcount=48

blacknirvana

10-03-2005, 10:37 AM

I actually enjoyed the first three movies, not good zombie movies like Romeros, but very funny and nice to watch on a boring day.

zombie2005

10-05-2005, 05:00 AM

New trailers are out for ROTHD 4 & 5.

Looks like a 2 1/2 star movie but I will rent this first before buying.

ROTD 1 is the best of them all. Actuly was the first zombie movie I never seen when I was 5.

ROTD did have comedy but serious horror as well. One hell of a job the set was, very creepy.

I am one of the few who do not like the comedy in zombies movies. I like them
serious horror.

http://returnofthelivingdead4and5.com/

secondstoreykid

10-05-2005, 02:23 PM

I've actually already seen Rave to the Grave, and well, it's a real waste of time...

I'm looking forward to Necropolis, I think it looks like a fun, brainless movie. :loon:

Born to Kill

07-06-2006, 03:58 PM

devourthesun

07-06-2006, 04:26 PM

I rented "Necropolis" the other day, and aside from a lame ending, it was a pretty cool little movie, Not really anywhere near the original's but not a trainwreck like i expected.

Runn 4 WV Hillz

07-06-2006, 06:57 PM

i thought this movie was alright ,, the credits where they show the zombie extras smoking and shit that is funny!!:evil: :evil:

zombiekilling101

07-07-2006, 04:26 AM

i thought this movie was alright ,, the credits where they show the zombie extras smoking and shit that is funny!!:evil: :evil:

how about where they have a bunch of zombies run by the camera.. than a short time later a slow one runs by. that part was better than the whole movie:)

MrShape666

07-07-2006, 07:49 AM

Personally, I'd like to know why the Russian zombie would say the word "Brains" in English! Shouldn't that be "Mозги!"?

evilzombie20

07-07-2006, 03:40 PM

There's two scenes in this movie I loved...well actually 3.

1. The scene where the patient zombie picks up the phone and says; "Send more security guards..." that was a nice nod to the original.

2. The scene where the little brother gets his brain chomped on, I hated that kid!

3. The zombie/mother thing geting her head run over by the tank, that was a wicked cool gore shot. Nice n' wet!

That's about it though...now if I listed the things about this movie I DIDN'T like...we'd be here all night so I'll spare you.

tigeraid

07-08-2006, 05:53 PM

I can't believe what I am reading!! You guys actually like that movie? Other that House2 that was prolly one of the biggest z-movie let downs ever. I waited and waited for that sucker to come to dvd and when I finially rented it (from Blockbluster so I paid handsomely too) I drove home, popped it in and started to watch. Then I think I started to cry around the scene when all the "cool" kids drive their pimped out bikes into the easy accessable bio-tech laboratory to be attacked by some homeless zombie, and low and behold the kick the crap outta that stinky bastard. First the mexian kid of course has a gun and just shot him and then the black kid wants a peice so he pulls out his 'chuks and starts wailing on him. Bah! Bah I say.

devourthesun

07-08-2006, 06:24 PM

See, Thats your problem, You went into this movie expecting alot. Its Return of the Living Dead 4. With a name like "Necropolis" and having its premiere on Sci-Fi channel, I knew without seeing it, that it was a massive train wreck. I was pleasntly surprised to find a fun, if not hokey b-grade zombie movie that gave us what we want in zombie movies which is

1. Gore
2. Violence
3. smattering of humor
4. Did i mention gore?

I'll admit the swat team showing up was a bit ridiculous, but none the less, it was a fun little movie.

tigeraid

07-08-2006, 06:30 PM

Okay I'll admit it did have some okay points, namely when that little fat kid gets his head chomped into or.... umm.... when the slutty girl gets all slutty but thats about it. Over all if I had to I would give it a -3 on my personal zombie movie rating scale.

SGT. DEATH

07-09-2006, 08:02 AM

I found this better than I was expecting due to all the bad press it was getting.I was going to start a thread for finding movies but I couldnt think of which forum to put it in.Any one know where I can obtain Return ot the Living Dead 5?
Im looking foreward to seeing it.

evilzombie20

07-09-2006, 03:24 PM

Return of the Living Dead 5 is supposedly coming out on DVD in the U.S. Nov 28th...not too sure about anywhere else though.

evilzombie20

11-10-2006, 04:11 AM

Sorry to bring up a semi-dead thread but I came across the info that the US DVD release is heavily cut. I know this is a bad movie and most of you probably won't care but does this piss anyone off? First Lionsgate releases 3 rated, then part 1 takes forever to come out on DVD and we're not given the special uncut edition we're promised, 2 comes out with an altered soundtrack and now 4 is cut - heavily by the sounds of it, 100 minutes down to 88! Seriously guys, for a series that's so loved amongst genre fans it sure gets the shit treatment. Anyone got any info on this?

T-Boy Dallas

11-10-2006, 09:36 AM

The Blind Dead

11-10-2006, 03:02 PM

I think it might be because Liongate is fixing to tank out. I mean look at the movies they've released in the past two years. And we all know Dead or Allive is going to be a blockbuster hit! :roll:
I don't think Dead or Alive is meant to be a blockbuster nor do I believe Lionsgate is going to "tank out." These new entries into the return franchise are crap and as such they're being treated like crap. Many companies don't really see the need for SE, Director's Cuts or unrated films when they don't anticipate their initial investment back to begin with.

evilzombie20

11-10-2006, 03:41 PM

I don't think Dead or Alive is meant to be a blockbuster nor do I believe Lionsgate is going to "tank out." These new entries into the return franchise are crap and as such they're being treated like crap. Many companies don't really see the need for SE, Director's Cuts or unrated films when they don't anticipate their initial investment back to begin with.

Well doesn't it cost money to have a movie rated? So wouldn't it make more sense if the company didn't care to just put the film out as is? Putting the film out unrated wouldn't have costs Lionsgate anymore money than putting it out rated. In fact it might've even attracted more people to it. Even non-horror fans see the words unrated and they drool. It's like buying a porno or something. They always expect something graphic and disgusting, hence the unrated label. A movie like this needs that extra omph to sell or it won't.

The Blind Dead

11-10-2006, 04:01 PM

Well doesn't it cost money to have a movie rated? So wouldn't it make more sense if the company didn't care to just put the film out as is? Putting the film out unrated wouldn't have costs Lionsgate anymore money than putting it out rated.

Yes, actually it does cost money to have your film rated especially if you have to make a few minor cuts to get that rating. You're assuming no cuts were made to get that rating. Cuts mean money because somebody has to make the cuts which means somebody has to be paid to do the job.

It would make far more sense to just release the film as it was aired on Sci-fi. If it sells well they may consider a more complete edition in the future. A fourth entry in an almost forgotten horror franchise doesn't warrant an SE upfront.

In fact it might've even attracted more people to it. Even non-horror fans see the words unrated and they drool. It's like buying a porno or something. They always expect something graphic and disgusting, hence the unrated label. A movie like this needs that extra omph to sell or it won't.

A few seconds added to this film isn't going to make things easier on it. Fact is, reviews are in and Sci-fi ratings said it all for these films. Lionsgate knows what they're doing. There's really no need to show these films special treatment.

evilzombie20

11-10-2006, 04:23 PM

Yes, actually it does cost money to have your film rated especially if you have to make a few minor cuts to get that rating. You're assuming no cuts were made to get that rating. Cuts mean money because somebody has to make the cuts which means somebody has to be paid to do the job.

It would make far more sense to just release the film as it was aired on Sci-fi. If it sells well they may consider a more complete edition in the future. A fourth entry in an almost forgotten horror franchise doesn't warrant an SE upfront.

A few seconds added to this film isn't going to make things easier on it. Fact is, reviews are in and Sci-fi ratings said it all for these films. Lionsgate knows what they're doing. There's really no need to show these films special treatment.

It's not a matter of seconds. It's a film that's supposed to be around 100 minutes and is trimmed down to 88. That's almost 12 minutes of footage, give or take, that's not a mere few seconds. The film is bad, I know this but it's certainly not the worst thing out there. They could've done much worse.

The Blind Dead

11-10-2006, 04:39 PM

It's not a matter of seconds. It's a film that's supposed to be around 100 minutes and is trimmed down to 88. That's almost 12 minutes of footage, give or take, that's not a mere few seconds. The film is bad, I know this but it's certainly not the worst thing out there. They could've done much worse.
You're still missing the point. 12 minutes doesn't mean gore or zombies. It may have been 12 minutes of blank stares, stale dialogue and shoddy FX. Would it have made them more money? I think it's safe to say Lionsgate knows what they're doing, right?

evilzombie20

11-10-2006, 05:30 PM

You're still missing the point. 12 minutes doesn't mean gore or zombies. It may have been 12 minutes of blank stares, stale dialogue and shoddy FX. Would it have made them more money? I think it's safe to say Lionsgate knows what they're doing, right?

I highly doubt 12 minutes can be nothing but blank stares, maybe stale dialogue and shoddy FX but some of the insight to certain things may have been in the scenes taken out. It's obvious there's an uncut version floating around there, how else would anyone know it's REALLY cut unless they've seen the said scenes themselves? There wouldn't be much complaining if these scenes were unecessary or not needed.

I just finished re-watching the film and I still think it's bad, hell it's pretty awful but it did not deserve to be chopped up and thrown out into the public the way it was. The ROTLD series is not a "dying franchise", so many wouldn't have fought to get 1 and 2 on DVD if it was, but it's getting there with releases and sequels like this. The film companies, such as Lionsgate, need to understand if they put any kind of effort into their releases the public will be more intent to buy. Even if it's someone whose never heard of the movie or the entry in the series, if they see "Unrated Version" and a few extra special features fror $20 or so then they'll be more willing to buy. I hate blowing $20 or so to get a movie cut up and having one or two special features. I'd go back to VHS if this is what I wanted to deal with.

The Blind Dead

11-11-2006, 03:21 AM

I highly doubt 12 minutes can be nothing but blank stares, maybe stale dialogue and shoddy FX but some of the insight to certain things may have been in the scenes taken out. It's obvious there's an uncut version floating around there, how else would anyone know it's REALLY cut unless they've seen the said scenes themselves? There wouldn't be much complaining if these scenes were unecessary or not needed.

Actually, horror/zombies fans bitch about everything from 2 seconds of gore missing in a frame to the consistency of theatrical blood. Horror/zombie fans WOULD whine about 12 minutes missing even if it was 12 minutes of credits, stale dialogue, blank stares, close-ups of feet and shoddy FX. Are you honestly trying to tell me that you believe 12 minutes missing from ROTLD 4 may end up making it a better film? :roll:

I just finished re-watching the film and I still think it's bad, hell it's pretty awful

Question answered.

...it did not deserve to be chopped up and thrown out into the public the way it was.

It was cut for cable and obviously the ratings didn't warrant the kind of release spoiled horror fans believe everything should get.

The ROTLD series is not a "dying franchise", so many wouldn't have fought to get 1 and 2 on DVD if it was, but it's getting there with releases and sequels like this. The film companies, such as Lionsgate, need to understand if they put any kind of effort into their releases the public will be more intent to buy. Even if it's someone whose never heard of the movie or the entry in the series, if they see "Unrated Version" and a few extra special features fror $20 or so then they'll be more willing to buy. I hate blowing $20 or so to get a movie cut up and having one or two special features. I'd go back to VHS if this is what I wanted to deal with.

The ROTLD is dying which was why is was so easily purchased by Fradis, a bloodsucking leech determined to run the series into the ground so long as it makes him money. If these two sequels don't kill the series completely we always have the rumored remake to look forward to.

As for the DVD release, once again, hate to say it but you have absolutely NO idea what will make Lionsgate money and what won't. You're simply another pissed off fan insisting a multi-million dollar company would do better by taking your suggestions into account. If they did that...they'd go out of business. Fact is, I'd be surprised if these even SEE shelf space. The market is beginning to clog and small, insignificant releases are being booted from stores and store shelves. Nothing about this film warrants special treatment and I'd venture to say the cable ratings would prove that.

I understand that we all expect more from DVD and DVD companies but insisting every trashy, poorly made, ultimately forgettable release should be released uncut & unrated with a heap of special features just isn't realistic.

evilzombie20

11-12-2006, 02:05 AM

Actually, horror/zombies fans bitch about everything from 2 seconds of gore missing in a frame to the consistency of theatrical blood. Horror/zombie fans WOULD whine about 12 minutes missing even if it was 12 minutes of credits, stale dialogue, blank stares, close-ups of feet and shoddy FX. Are you honestly trying to tell me that you believe 12 minutes missing from ROTLD 4 may end up making it a better film? :roll:

No, I don't think it would make it a better film but it might've provided some kind of explaination to why the zombies were killed with a bullet to the brain. I remember before either film came out William Butler explained the zombies were going to be killed that was but they explained it. I didn't get an explanation in my copy, did you? That certainly would've made the film less confusing.

As for the DVD release, once again, hate to say it but you have absolutely NO idea what will make Lionsgate money and what won't. You're simply another pissed off fan insisting a multi-million dollar company would do better by taking your suggestions into account. If they did that...they'd go out of business. Fact is, I'd be surprised if these even SEE shelf space. The market is beginning to clog and small, insignificant releases are being booted from stores and store shelves. Nothing about this film warrants special treatment and I'd venture to say the cable ratings would prove that.

I understand that we all expect more from DVD and DVD companies but insisting every trashy, poorly made, ultimately forgettable release should be released uncut & unrated with a heap of special features just isn't realistic.

Ok I have two problems with your opinion. I don't consider it a blatent fact but hear me out. Lionsgate is a horror themed company for the most part. Their main fanbase is basically horror oriented and nothing else is really under their wing. Releasing horror movies unrated is more of a marketing scheme than anything else out there. Horror fans scarf up the idea they may get an extra 4-5 minutes (or seconds) of gore whether they're a fan of the film or not. Seeing "Unrated Director's Cut" plastered all over a box makes people want to buy it, why? Two reasons; if the film sucked maybe the unrated footage would flesh it out, make it better. Case and point, Ultraviolet, rated terrible movie, no plot, no storyline, unrated - much better. The film company cut over 12 minutes of footage from the film turning into a mindless action movie with no plot, no character depth - nothing. The unrated version has all that making it a much better film.

I've actually heard people, horror fans including myself, buy unrated versions of movies they saw and hated in hopes the film will be better with the deleted footage. Most of the time, it is. Look at Return of the Living Dead 3, that film is god awful rated, the r-rated version of that is just not worth a second of someone's time, however the unrated version adds to it. Granted it's 30 seconds of gore but you are not going to try to tell me that if Lionsgate was going to re-release that film unrated half this board would not be interested in buying it. Hell, even the ones who don't like it would buy it unrated on DVD I'm sure.

Releasing a film unrated is going to make a studio more money, especially with horror films, if it's a film that does not deserve such treatment - who cares? The people buying it 90% of the time don't know that and if they do seeing unrated plastered all over the box will make them think there might be more to the film, alternate scenes, whatever something that will make the film better. Remember Stay Alive? Nobody remembered that flick even being in theaters, yet the store I work at got a shipment of both the unrated and rated versions and we sold out of the unrated. The rated we sold one here and there but the unrated flew off the shelf for the first week. Why? Because they plastered all over the friggin' box; UNRATED VERSION TOO SCARY FOR THEATERS OVER 15 MINUTES OF NEW FOOTAGE! That makes people think, makes them want to buy it to see that 15 minutes which might really be around 11. But even though half the people knew this film was bad, they bought it. Why? Because it was unrated, they all thought it might've been better. Same thing with Cursed, a film that flopped in the box office with a PG-13 rating but sold well in stores unrated. Think about that, the film isn't very good either way but people who saw it, hated it bought it unrated.

I'd bet my entire life savings that if Lionsgate re-released, or released to begin with, ROTLD: Necropolis unrated it would've sold better. It may have not been a better film but it certainly would've sold better. Same goes with 3 and part 1. If part 1 was the unrated director's cut that mother would've been sailing off of shelves and eBay for weeks. That movie rated outsold The Fog when it was released. Imagine what a two-disc special edition that was unrated and uncut would've done? Fans go crazy when they think there's something in there they weren't allowed to see or couldn't be shown for whatever reason. That drives fans and people crazy and don't even think you can tell me different.

HOO-HAA

11-12-2006, 08:47 AM

This is my second fav of the ROTLD series. Part 3 was my favourite, but I really enjoyed this as well.

Sure, it was brainless, chessy, cliched nonsense.... but it was fun! Part 3 was a much better film, in all regards, but this still held my attention.

Also, it seemed to have a bit of money thrown at it - as opposed to none. That always helpes with zombie flicks, I find. :)

Divided Soul

11-16-2006, 11:56 PM

Yeah its a good film... not great, but good.

ABRNT1

11-20-2006, 12:02 AM

I bought a pre-viewed copy of Necropolis at Blockbuster for $5 and it's not worth it. Mindless, pointless, cliche filled crap. Does make a good coaster though

detpat

11-20-2006, 12:12 AM

3 and 4 were both pieces of shit
pat

zombiekilling101

11-20-2006, 03:18 AM

I bought a pre-viewed copy of Necropolis at Blockbuster for $5 and it's not worth it. Mindless, pointless, cliche filled crap. Does make a good coaster though

agreed. I think I still might get it though. What was up with the 1 head bite effect. it was cool the first few times but the rest was rubbish.

and was that chubby kid in the pads in this one or rave to the grave?

raym

11-20-2006, 05:59 AM

Isn't Tom Savini in one of these (4 or 5)??

It was him, or one other celeb.

zombiekilling101

11-20-2006, 12:04 PM

Isn't Tom Savini in one of these (4 or 5)??

It was him, or one other celeb.

yeah I think he was a coach or something

B00Ne

11-20-2006, 12:32 PM

I'll pick it up because I'm a consumer whore and I have the first 3.

The Blind Dead

11-20-2006, 12:40 PM

I'll pick it up because I'm a consumer whore and I have the first 3.
Unfortunately, I'm in the same boat. I thought this was garbage, far worse than part 2, and yet...I must own it. Go figure.

Zombie Survivor

11-20-2006, 02:44 PM

When's the region 2 release?

Must... complete... the... series... :drool:

HOO-HAA

11-20-2006, 03:29 PM

When's the region 2 release?

Must... complete... the... series... :drool:

I picked up a region free copy on Amazon, I think, some time ago. It was legitimate. Some joker sold me a pirate of number 5 on E-Bay, so beware of those... :roll: :doh:

MrShape666

11-20-2006, 09:52 PM

Zombie nerd that I am, I'm still eager to see part 5 (even if it's aweful). Is it still coming out Nov 28th? Anyone know?

zombiekilling101

11-21-2006, 12:14 AM

I never finshed 5 when it was on sci fi. that stupid dj just got on my nerves and the stupid crap they had tarman do was dumb.. but like you guys I will still buy them.

Zombie Survivor

11-21-2006, 08:51 AM

I picked up a region free copy on Amazon, I think, some time ago. It was legitimate. Some joker sold me a pirate of number 5 on E-Bay, so beware of those... :roll: :doh:

Thanks! I'll look for it :drinking:

T-Boy Dallas

11-21-2006, 07:00 PM

For those of you guys who missed it just wait for some Saturday when Sci Fi channel runs a series of Zombie movies all day. They'll probably put Necropolis and "Rave To The Grave" in it.

MrShape666

11-22-2006, 05:35 PM

For those of you guys who missed it just wait for some Saturday when Sci Fi channel runs a series of Zombie movies all day. They'll probably put Necropolis and "Rave To The Grave" in it.

Yeah, but i'm waiting for the DVD, I wanna see versions that HAVEN'T been edited for TV. So I'm hoping that Nov 28 DVD release is true.

evilzombie20

11-23-2006, 07:50 PM

Yeah, but i'm waiting for the DVD, I wanna see versions that HAVEN'T been edited for TV. So I'm hoping that Nov 28 DVD release is true.

Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on how you look at it, ROTLD 5 has been delayed. The release date is unconfirmed and has been like that for some time. I believe it has been released in the UK with a cover similiar to the U.S. release of part 4.

HOO-HAA

11-24-2006, 01:04 PM

Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on how you look at it, ROTLD 5 has been delayed. The release date is unconfirmed and has been like that for some time. I believe it has been released in the UK with a cover similiar to the U.S. release of part 4.

Not sure about that... 4 has released in the UK but I'm not sure if 5 has. There are plenty of pirate copies flying about E-Bay, pretending to be retail copies - beware! :-(