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Mervin Chip Chipperson
03-06-2005, 10:48 AM
I couldn't find the old thread on this one, so I started a new one. Here's a bit of news which reveals how the movie's story might play out:
"Boyle will not be directing the planned follow-up to his hit film 28 Days Later, dubbed 28 Weeks Later, but he will be on board as an "executive producer." "It's a very strong, simple idea again," he explained, "that England has basically been abandoned, and there's been no life there for six months. The Americans arrive to start it back up again, to reboot it…especially the franchises that are going to waste." He didn't think that Cillian Murphy or Naomie Harris would be back in it, because they're too busy. "
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8613
Sounds like an alright concept, I am still looking forward to seeing it.
Dwight L. MacPherson
03-06-2005, 10:56 AM
I'll see it just because I am such a big fan of the first film.
SGT. DEATH
03-06-2005, 11:36 AM
Im looken foreward to this one and the rest.
Zombie Survivor
03-06-2005, 01:29 PM
Yeah, I thought that the first film was great and the idea for the second o.k. I'll go see it.
Ghettowitch
03-06-2005, 01:59 PM
If I am reading this right, then the sequal will be about American's opening up a Starbuck's all over the wasteland?
corgi37
03-06-2005, 05:49 PM
Sell McDonalds in a desert.
zombie2005
03-07-2005, 02:26 AM
Cant wait to see it. I loved the first film, hope the new director doesnt F-It up.
kmfdm56
03-07-2005, 02:50 AM
americans come in, make starbucks. Americans start killing each other in Franchise gang wars. Thus zombie starbucks gansters. just kidding. hope this one is as cool as the first.
vtchatman
03-07-2005, 06:08 PM
the first was the best thing since the first dawn of the dead and that is sad, but good zombie or similar themed moves are hard to come by, as not many are really worth owning, as seeing once is enough for me for most of these movies, but i will probably be buying this when it comes out on dvd but ill watch it first as most series movies are no good past the original.
Divided Soul
03-08-2005, 09:57 AM
I like the rebuild idea, but if this was an infectious disease wouldn't it have crossed the pond? I would like to see if the America's had found some cure or if they continue to struggle with it while trying to rebuild Europe.
corgi37
03-09-2005, 12:00 AM
I just cant see it being as good as 28 days.
SanElizando
03-09-2005, 05:50 AM
I love 28 Days but this just sounds awful. And the last time I looked, America wasn't have that great a time rebuilding countries... :)
Danzig666
03-09-2005, 08:50 AM
is their gonna be a big budget to this film?
Cos it mite go horribly wrong if their is to be a big budget to it. It could be aimed at the wrong people, if u know wat i mean.
Divided Soul
03-09-2005, 02:47 PM
I love 28 Days but this just sounds awful. And the last time I looked, America wasn't have that great a time rebuilding countries... :)
I came to that conclusion also.... lol
!Vision!
03-09-2005, 03:29 PM
"It's a very strong, simple idea again," he explained, "that England has basically been abandoned, and there's been no life there for six months. The Americans arrive to start it back up again, to reboot it…especially the franchises that are going to waste."
That plot really doesn't make sense. Why would they go there without making sure the virus wasn't lying dormant somewhere. It's been proven that virus's can lie dormant for many months. The AIDS virus can live in a drop of dried blood for about that long. No one would go, "Ok, it's been six months since this country was completely wiped out, it's probably fine now, let's go. Nothing bad will happen to us." That's just crazy!
smashbot
03-09-2005, 06:13 PM
Greed my friend. After all, we're talking about American start-ups.
corgi37
03-09-2005, 06:34 PM
I just feel the idea would be "hijacked" by U.S. investers. You know, change the whole setting to downtown L.A., put in some teen stars, and lose the whole heart and soul of the original.
Other examples?
Having Tom Sawyer in League of extrordiary gentlemen. Had to have a Yank in there, they were told. The film was a disgrace anyway, but as if Americans wouldnt see a film just because it had a Euro/U.K. cast? My Yank mates might be many things, but they aint dumb.
And, as i read yesterday (and which made me vomit) they are re-making The Wicker Man. Set now in ****ing Maine. I mean, shit, gimme a break. Starring Nicholas Cage!! ****!!!
He's here in Melbourne right now filming Ghost Rider. He's been pretty nice to people apparently. He went to the F1 Grand Prix last week and had a ball.
But, he aint Edward Woodward.
And aint no one gonna match Britt Ekland of Ingrid Pitt.
nirvroxx
03-10-2005, 12:24 AM
wait....so how are there supposed to be zombies/infected around if they made it very clear that they were dying of starvation towards the end of 28 days later....hmmm something smells wrong here :poo:
zombiekilling101
03-10-2005, 01:04 PM
what happened to the notion of the infection spreading to the U.S and Europe? The soldier confirmed that right?
anyway, that was a British warplane that saved Jim, selena and Hannah right? maybe the Americans (go America!) are coming to help out whatever small government is still held up?
R.E. Freak
03-10-2005, 03:30 PM
Other Examples?
How about the rush of Japanese remakes? What annoys me with those is they have the same directors directing them. Why? Why not just bring the original (better) Japanese movies over?
Everything has to be remake for North American audiences, this movie will be no different if it indeed does get made. Look at the next Dog Soldiers. It has an American unit. Why American? They didn't have any place in the plot, so why are they there? For the North American masses.
And it's only going to get worse.
awfulman
03-10-2005, 04:49 PM
I love 28 Days but this just sounds awful. And the last time I looked, America wasn't have that great a time rebuilding countries... :)
Awful? did someone say AWFUL?!
If there's no signs of life for 6 months, why are they concerned about their enterprises?
zombiekilling101
03-10-2005, 07:11 PM
Awful? did someone say AWFUL?!
If there's no signs of life for 6 months, why are they concerned about their enterprises?
it has to be something other than simple enterprises, its probably something like a natural resource or something like that.
Divided Soul
03-14-2005, 01:24 PM
it has to be something other than simple enterprises, its probably something like a natural resource or something like that.
Or to get living hosts :drool: containing the virus :scare:
preacher
03-14-2005, 04:04 PM
why would they want to go back in to save the franchises? I can understand them wanting to go back in for say technological advancements e.g. microsoft has developed a mutli million pound new microchip and all the info is in england
but franchises? no one in their right mind would want to go back to england after whats happened. and if noone wants to go back then there arent going to be any customers for these franchises.
i always thought franchises are made up of people paying to use the name in that i pay a set amount of money for the mcdonalds name, ovens, recipies etc. i mean what are the going to do? go in and reclaim their spatulas?
it sounds like a poor reason to back in, i always thought my idea was a pretty good one.
http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=911
things id like to see are scavengers hunting for loot (zombie version of kellys heroes anyone?) and hunters who pay top money to go over to england to kill zombies.
just dont have it as "group of people stuck in house/church/complex/toilet while zombies surround them." because its been done to death and risen and been done to death again
Outland
03-14-2005, 04:13 PM
I love all of this specualtion; the facts are that nothing was revealed or discredited inthe original; they did not make fact that they were 'Starving...' (Yes, they showed this emaciated infected man on the road and that's all)
or whether or not the infection had 'spread' outside the UK. All that was mentioned was that they had 'lost contact' with Paris and New York.
The story is wide open still.
corgi37
03-14-2005, 06:14 PM
Zombiekilling - It was the Finnish air force.
zombiekilling101
03-14-2005, 09:51 PM
Zombiekilling - It was the Finnish air force.
ohhh ic, thankyou sir.
Ninja Krow
03-15-2005, 03:43 AM
I'll see it just because I am such a big fan of the first film.
I have to agree with this one. The first was awesome, I don't care what anyone says. and it would be kind of cool so see what happens next.
flenser
03-16-2005, 07:56 AM
Zombiekilling - It was the Finnish air force.
Damn, just about to say that.
I think it was a Grippen or somesuch...
FatherJack
03-29-2005, 01:02 PM
The way to handle it wouldn't be for some franchise :loon:
Maybe to recover the intial work on the virus to find a cure, or a resource like fuel or some new tech like what was suggested earlier.
I REALLY like the zombie hunter idea and the Killey's heros with zombies. :evil:
How about a plane crash? The isles have been isolated, the virus was contained in New York and Paris but no cure was found. Life gets back to normal until one day a passanger plane bellyflops into the Thames..... :evil:
Zombie-A-GoGo
03-29-2005, 02:02 PM
Everything has to be remake for North American audiences
This isn't an entirely new concept and it seems to work both ways. Different countries and cultures react differently to themes and content. I mean, that's why Argento recut Dawn for the European audiences...
If there's no signs of life for 6 months, why are they concerned about their enterprises?
That's a really good question, Awful.
We'll see what other news comes from this, then I decided whether I want to pay out the cash to see it or not. I'd have to say that because I'm a big fan of the first, I really cringe at seeing this, as described so far. I liked the actors, I liked the directing..I suppose it's too early to see if Anthony Dod Mantle is the shooter? :-(
Fetal Fatality
03-29-2005, 03:13 PM
I think they should go more into the zombieology of this movie, cause I couldn't tell if the zombies we're the living dead or just a bunch of rabid living people. Did they eat people who were living or were'nt infected? It just looked like the zombie jumps on the person, bites them, and then begins puking blood in their face. Maybe they just attacked people because they're simply just hostile creatures. Maybe when they we're talking about the zombies starving had to do with them not eating at all. Although, I don't think they had anything about starving zombies in past movies so I guess they wouldn't be living dead zombies.
Whatever, I really didn't care much for the 28 Days Later anyway.
grimsaado
03-29-2005, 04:26 PM
28DL was "rage", they didn't attack and eat, they just attacked. No flesh eating. Second they weren't undead, just living people infected with "rage" although all of the rest of the dynamics we know and love about zombie movies were in there.
The director said the story was a "what-if" of infectious disease but we all know it was a zombie movie in disguise :)
Deadguy
03-30-2005, 08:30 AM
I think they should go more into the zombieology of this movie, cause I couldn't tell if the zombies we're the living dead or just a bunch of rabid living people. Did they eat people who were living or were'nt infected? It just looked like the zombie jumps on the person, bites them, and then begins puking blood in their face. Maybe they just attacked people because they're simply just hostile creatures. Maybe when they we're talking about the zombies starving had to do with them not eating at all. Although, I don't think they had anything about starving zombies in past movies so I guess they wouldn't be living dead zombies.
There was that scene with the zombie that the military unit had captured. They were withholding food from him. In theory, it suggests that they knew what the infected ate.
My understanding is that they live to infect and be angry. Theoretically when they get hungry, they try to eat. Though you'll notice that a lot of the piles of dead bodies were pretty much intact.
It's a hard call, considering that I think the infected aren't consciously trying to infect. I think they're trying to express anger due to excessive amounts of adrenaline and obtain sustenance through eating human flesh.
In reality, the extra frantic behavior of the infected would require massive food intake, and lots of rest... Neither were represented or even hinted at.
undeadhead
04-03-2005, 09:54 AM
I'm looking foward to this film. The first one left it so open ended, it could have any myriad of themes. Danny Boyle is still involved, so thats good news, anyway. Although I have nothing against political themes, I hope its not something so blatant. Subtlety always works better in my opinion.
Divided Soul
04-04-2005, 11:59 AM
The direction of the sequal seems interesting but I feel it can go very very wrong if done poorly
DocZomby
04-05-2005, 07:43 AM
There was that scene with the zombie that the military unit had captured. They were withholding food from him. In theory, it suggests that they knew what the infected ate.
My understanding is that they live to infect and be angry. Theoretically when they get hungry, they try to eat. Though you'll notice that a lot of the piles of dead bodies were pretty much intact.
It's a hard call, considering that I think the infected aren't consciously trying to infect. I think they're trying to express anger due to excessive amounts of adrenaline and obtain sustenance through eating human flesh.
In reality, the extra frantic behavior of the infected would require massive food intake, and lots of rest... Neither were represented or even hinted at.
There was no canabalism to speak of. As for the "Lots of rest." don't forget where Jim found the first of the infected: all strewn about on the floor of a church in a completely sedate fashion.
I'll defininitely be standing in line to see this one. I hope they continue the excellent caliber of the first. :)
Divided Soul
04-06-2005, 01:10 PM
There was no canabalism to speak of. As for the "Lots of rest." don't forget where Jim found the first of the infected: all strewn about on the floor of a church in a completely sedate fashion.
I'll defininitely be standing in line to see this one. I hope they continue the excellent caliber of the first. :)
I'm with you on that one Doc!
HOO-HAA
05-01-2005, 08:09 AM
Hmmm... Having read a lot of your views, guys, I'm swinging towards thinking this is going to be a bad film..
It sounds a little like 'Aliens' to me... send in a load of crazy-assed-cheese-machine-marines... let them run around saying things like "Hey Chuck! Come say hallo to your mother..HAW, HAW!" when they first meet a zombie... then die off, elaborately, one-by-one...
Why bother?
Detroit Dogg
05-01-2005, 08:50 AM
I liked the first one...Well until they got to the military base....Then it kinda lost most of its charm.
~Dre
BRUZE
05-01-2005, 02:10 PM
Hopefully this won't be another "unnecessary sequel" to cash in while the franchise is still hot. But that's what it sounds like to me. I'll probably wait til dvd on this one, unless I see ppl on here going nuts about how awesome it is. I feel I can trust the ATZ members opinions, you've been a useful guide thus far.
HOO-HAA
05-02-2005, 11:13 AM
I liked the first one...Well until they got to the military base....Then it kinda lost most of its charm.
~Dre
Yeah, I agree... it did go a bit nuts from there. The main guy went all 'Lord-of-the-flies' on it and managed to kill loads of soldiers. I liked how they were trying to show how we all have 'the-zombie-within' lurking in our subconscious, but would he really have been able to waste all those armed soldiers so easily?
For me it lost its integrity there... but still a damn fine movie.
Divided Soul
05-02-2005, 02:00 PM
I liked who they would prefer their chances with zombies rather than with the soldiers
Preach
05-03-2005, 07:12 AM
It sounds a little like 'Aliens' to me... send in a load of crazy-assed-cheese-machine-marines... let them run around saying things like "Hey Chuck! Come say hallo to your mother..HAW, HAW!" when they first meet a zombie... then die off, elaborately, one-by-one...
Why bother?
sounds like a good reason to see it :lol:
Dagnammit
05-03-2005, 07:22 AM
what happened to the notion of the infection spreading to the U.S and Europe? The soldier confirmed that right?
anyway, that was a British warplane that saved Jim, selena and Hannah right? maybe the Americans (go America!) are coming to help out whatever small government is still held up?
It was a Finnish warplane. The pilot was speaking in Sumoi.
i must b the only 1 to think 28 days later was crap a rip off day of the dead but no were near as good.
Ilovezombies!
05-03-2005, 10:42 AM
I really liked (and i own) 28 days later but it annoyes me when people call it a zombie movie. When is the sequel supposed to come out? I only heard it was "in talks"? Oh yes, and what's up with the mini tombstones next to everyone's display picture on here? *is clueless*
preacher
05-03-2005, 10:55 AM
americans coming to help? What about Americans coming to conquer? It would be cool to think that englands full of resources that countries are just coming to plunder etc.
Maybe like jurassic park 2 except with zombies instead of dinosaurs.
furygrrl
05-03-2005, 11:54 AM
Just finished watching 28DL for the umpteenth time. (Yay! Non-lethal sick days are *fun*!)
With regard to the question of the virus spreading to Paris and NY: Selena says that cases of infection had been *reported* in both cities prior to losing radio/television contact.
If the writers continue along that line, perhaps the sequel deals with a cure or containment method being found, prompting a U.N-like, multi-national visit to the devastated UK to apply those measures there? A cleansing-type, search-for-survivors rescue mission?
Providing the next 28 doesn't involve a teeny-bopper cast a la 'House of Wax', I'll likely go see it. Dishing out handfuls of hard-earned cash is the only way we're able to tell Hollywood to keep making these kinds of flicks, so that's enough of a reason for me to hop along to my local multiplex. ;-)
zombiekilling101
05-03-2005, 04:54 PM
i must b the only 1 to think 28 days later was crap a rip off day of the dead but no were near as good.
how the hell so?
Preach
05-03-2005, 05:34 PM
how the hell so?
especially since 28 days later came out in 2002..unless you're talking about DOTD 1978
Shredmonkey
05-03-2005, 05:51 PM
how the hell so?
The only things I can think of are:
Naughty army boys.
Megolamaniacal leader.
Female character is the strongest (For most of the film anyway).
Zombie (Oops sorry....Infected) on a chain for 'studying'.
And the fact that ANY apocalyptical undead type film is bound to compare in someway to Romeros legacy.
corgi37
05-03-2005, 07:49 PM
Well, yeah, i guess you have a point.
On the directors commentary for 28dl, Boyle does indeed say the chained up army guy was a tribute to Bub.
But, i think 28dl was better than Day. For a start, we got to see more of the deserted city at the beginning.
All they did in Day was land, get on the bull-horn, and get out. What i wouldnt have given for them to explore the city more, or at least, go out in the whirly-bird again to explore another "dead place".
Shredmonkey
05-03-2005, 07:53 PM
Well, yeah, i guess you have a point.
On the directors commentary for 28dl, Boyle does indeed say the chained up army guy was a tribute to Bub.
But, i think 28dl was better than Day. For a start, we got to see more of the deserted city at the beginning.
All they did in Day was land, get on the bull-horn, and get out. What i wouldnt have given for them to explore the city more, or at least, go out in the whirly-bird again to explore another "dead place".
I think that one city shot in Day was all Romero could afford. I could never find 28 Days Later even in the same league as Day Of The Dead though. It was a fun film, and it's nice to see a British film NOT about people flouncing all over the place in period costume. I still prefer Dog Soldiers :)
Divided Soul
05-04-2005, 09:45 AM
Well I don't mean to start up an argument here but I think it would have been hard to explore anything in Day because
1. Gas was very low and they had just gone 150 miles either way up and down the coast.
2. Any travel by foot would have been impossible because of the zombies at the gate. I think Romero was trying to give the Trapped and Isolated image...
Oh well I loved 28DL and I can't wait for the sequal!
chickenchop1
05-05-2005, 01:23 PM
28 Days Later's initial EMPTY CITY exploration scene was great. I've been waiting for someone to do a scene like that and there it was.
Yes, I agree, I would've loved to have seen more of the Florida city being explored in Day of the Dead in the beginning. Of course George Romero could argue that:
1. Why explore a DEAD city if there's dead people all around, and you have a helicopter waiting to lift you out?
Based on that, Sara and her crew made the smartest decision to get the hell out of there. Still, it would've been great if the copter ran out of gas and they had to search the city for more. Of course that would be a whole different start to the movie, and would've cost a bundle to shoot over several weeks.
I'll see 28 Weeks Later, regardless of the storyline, knowing there's gonna be some new infected scenarios to see.
fs
midniteloser
05-05-2005, 07:58 PM
Liked the first one :lol:
Have high hopes...
Hope that it won't be a lame, wanna-be of the first one.
Cillian Murphy isn't in it? :doh:
hope it doesn't become total, and complete :poo:...
Ellis
05-05-2005, 08:04 PM
I hope it does well, I think the story of the military going in would be a good premise, but since it does sound a bit dumb, I think they should leave it as one of the classics.
Later
preacher
05-06-2005, 04:15 AM
seeing as cillians the scarecrow in the new batman movie
http://img213.echo.cx/img213/7922/begins10fy.th.jpg (http://img213.echo.cx/my.php?image=begins10fy.jpg)
its not a hundred percent that hell return. Sometimes these actors dont want to return to something theyve already done or maybe now hes too expensive
The Blind Dead
05-07-2005, 03:40 PM
It would be cool to think that englands full of resources that countries are just coming to plunder etc.
Maybe like jurassic park 2 except with zombies instead of dinosaurs.
Yes, America is desperate to get their hands on Englands eel pies.
*shivers*
28 Days did not have zombies in it.
The Blind Dead
05-07-2005, 03:46 PM
I think they should leave it as one of the classics.
Classic? Not trying to be mean here because 28 Days Later was a good movie, no doubt, but classic? :loon:
zombiesque
05-07-2005, 04:00 PM
I agree, it was a good movie, but in no way could it be deemed as "classic" however, I'm looking forward to the next, because it's a zombie flick and you can never get enough of those, am I right y'all? Damn Skippy.
HOO-HAA
05-07-2005, 04:41 PM
I agree, it was a good movie, but in no way could it be deemed as "classic" however, I'm looking forward to the next, because it's a zombie flick and you can never get enough of those, am I right y'all? Damn Skippy.
Actually... Hmmmmmm. I kinda don't know about that one. :think: For me, personally, it's a classic, but I'm not sure if it should be a Classic TM..
Depends on how one defines 'classic'.. (cue new thread!)
zombiesque
05-07-2005, 06:26 PM
very true....
Divided Soul
05-07-2005, 08:19 PM
Actually... Hmmmmmm. I kinda don't know about that one. :think: For me, personally, it's a classic, but I'm not sure if it should be a Classic TM..
Depends on how one defines 'classic'.. (cue new thread!)
Only time will tell if it will truly be a classic!
LastManStanding
05-19-2005, 02:31 PM
28DL is definitely a classic for me.
SICBELLY
05-19-2005, 06:25 PM
Hell, I'm looking forward to a "28 Days Later" sequel simply because I loved some of the situations the characters were put in. I mean how insanely cool was the part where we were first introduced to Brendan Gleeson's character? I'd watch a sequel just hoping for scenes that were half as well written as that one was.
jackskellington
05-19-2005, 07:18 PM
Everyone seems to have loved 28 Days so much, so maybe I just missed the boat on that one. I honestly tried to make myself like it but I just couldn't. When the DVD came out with a different ending I almost bought it a couple of times thinking that maybe this is just one of those movies I have to watch a few times to appreiciate, but I've never broken down and done it. Does the alternate ending make a difference? Even though I'm not a fan of the film I do give it props on rejuvenating the genre but again, I just couldn't get into it. Maybe I'm getting old and boring!!!!
Lady of Pain
05-19-2005, 11:24 PM
americans come in, make starbucks. Americans start killing each other in Franchise gang wars. Thus zombie starbucks gansters. just kidding. hope this one is as cool as the first.
LOL!!!!!!!!! Zombies killing zombies because their rotting flesh is the wrong hue of green/blue..... :evil:
I can't make a call on this one since I still haven't finished 28 Days Later. One of those late night movies I fell asleep on (I've got alot of those).
Alien
05-20-2005, 09:22 AM
28 days was a brilliant film. It's an example of what future zombies film have to follow if we are ever going to get what zombie fans want.
Bad Zombie Night
06-06-2005, 03:05 AM
I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet (posted a few ago). Here's a link to an article at aintitcool.com, where Danny Boyle is looking at Juan Carlos Fresnadillo to be Director of the film.
Link: Article (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20238)
corgi37
06-06-2005, 03:12 AM
I loved 28 days later. Well acted and some fantastic, powerful scenes.
Plus, its got the new Dr. Who in it!
P.S. I have never, ever, watched Dr. Who. I was just commenting.
Shredmonkey
06-06-2005, 04:10 AM
28 days was a brilliant film. It's an example of what future zombies film have to follow if we are ever going to get what zombie fans want.
Course, it would help if 28 Days had been a zombie movie at all :)
Langolier
06-06-2005, 05:58 AM
Course, it would help if 28 Days had been a zombie movie at all :)
It was as much a zombie movie as any other. Aside from the "zombies" actually being undead, it had all the same elements of a zombie movie.
You know... you become one of them.
Edit: Oh and as for the topic...
I shall withhold judgement.
Everyone was crying doomsday about Dawn of the Dead04, and I was pleasantly surprised by that movie.
Shredmonkey
06-06-2005, 08:42 AM
It was as much a zombie movie as any other. Aside from the "zombies" actually being undead, it had all the same elements of a zombie movie.
You know... you become one of them.
Edit: Oh and as for the topic...
I shall withhold judgement.
Everyone was crying doomsday about Dawn of the Dead04, and I was pleasantly surprised by that movie.
Can we call 'The Crazies' a zombie movie too then?
as it goes I quite enjoyed 28 Days Later. Makes a change to see a British movie that isn't about cheap cockney gangsters or some bodice ripping costume drama.
Bad Zombie Night
06-06-2005, 10:19 AM
Can we call 'The Crazies' a zombie movie too then?
One part of the definition of a Zombie is their mental state.... The Crazies were intelligent, and interactive, but they were insane. :loon:
The infected, in 28 Days Later, were quickly transformed into blood thirsty animals, who would attack without reason (instinct?). No, the infected are not Romero Zombies, but they deserve to be recognized in the genre nonetheless.
Curious... How do you define a Zombie? Before you answer, remember that Zombies were around way before Romero decided to make NOTLD. ;-)
Shredmonkey
06-06-2005, 01:57 PM
Curious... How do you define a Zombie? Before you answer, remember that Zombies were around way before Romero decided to make NOTLD. ;-)
I'm aware of zombie mythlogy so no worries there. Like most people I define the modern zombie film based on the mythology put forward by Romero (One that pretty much EVERY zombie film has followed since 68). The main characteristic feature of a zombie is that it is dead and reanimated.
Traditionally zombies are drugged people under control of the witch doctor (Yes Im simplifying it slightly :) ) For me 28 Days later was a great film about an infection which causes madness. The infected werent zombies, didn't appear to eat people, and weren't dead.
Darth Erroneous
06-06-2005, 08:46 PM
How else can they improve on a great movie? Add Americans! I can see it now: Starbucks and McDonalds send in super-commando troops (think Resident Evil) to attempt to take control of the ravished cities of England. All of the sudden they find out that they are not alone...
Seriously, I look forward to the movie just as I did for Resident Evil: Apocalypse. I don't have high expectations, though. I don't think I have to start up a sequal debate here because it could go on for quite some time.
Raulvilla
06-06-2005, 11:39 PM
from the description the word franchise most likely refers to industry rather than the Franchises of fast food. Great idea though, americans setting up a perimeter, creating giant gates around a industrial district and bussing in workers... could picture a labor revolt or the like uprooting their hold.
King Robert
06-07-2005, 09:25 PM
I'm with anybody on this forum who doesn't like the idea of this new movie being Americanized. It's not that I have anything against Americans (more appropriately, I just have something against their government and President), I'm just really tired of hearing about them. Personally, I enjoyed how differently the British told 28 Days Later apart from American horror movies, even though the movie stunk due to the fact that the zombies were just ordinary ppl with super-rabies. And I live in a country which is stuck right next to America. I turn on the TV, go to Channel 26 with CBC on, and Peter Mansbridge (probably the most well-known newsman in this country) is basically going "Blah blah blah American stuff blah blah blah Americans blah blah blah Bush is mad at us because of blah blah blah Iraq something something blah". Americans this, Americans that, Americans smacked my nuts with a wiffleballbat.
It's nice to watch a movie that is NOT about Americans. I may just be saying this because I'm Canadian, and in truth me and my countrymen have basically no dedication to the Great White North, at least comparatively, and Americans, especially in this time when the US Goverment wants its citizens to have much more "patriotism" than normal to fight the terrorists, probably don't want to see anything at all that isn't Americanized. But I'm not worried about that stuff, and I think it's very entertaining to see how other cultures do their own takes on classic Western movie genres. I mean, before I had any good Japanese food, I was pretty skeptical about it, but now Top Gun Sushi is on my top ten list.
I think they're ruining the things that gave the first film its (sadly few) redeeming features by Americanizing the sequel.
Jason Voorhees
06-07-2005, 09:36 PM
I'm with anybody on this forum who doesn't like the idea of this new movie being Americanized. It's not that I have anything against Americans (more appropriately, I just have something against their government and President), I'm just really tired of hearing about them. Personally, I enjoyed how differently the British told 28 Days Later apart from American horror movies, even though the movie stunk due to the fact that the zombies were just ordinary ppl with super-rabies. And I live in a country which is stuck right next to America. I turn on the TV, go to Channel 26 with CBC on, and Peter Mansbridge (probably the most well-known newsman in this country) is basically going "Blah blah blah American stuff blah blah blah Americans blah blah blah Bush is mad at us because of blah blah blah Iraq something something blah". Americans this, Americans that, Americans smacked my nuts with a wiffleballbat.
It's nice to watch a movie that is NOT about Americans. I may just be saying this because I'm Canadian, and in truth me and my countrymen have basically no dedication to the Great White North, at least comparatively, and Americans, especially in this time when the US Goverment wants its citizens to have much more "patriotism" than normal to fight the terrorists, probably don't want to see anything at all that isn't Americanized. But I'm not worried about that stuff, and I think it's very entertaining to see how other cultures do their own takes on classic Western movie genres. I mean, before I had any good Japanese food, I was pretty skeptical about it, but now Top Gun Sushi is on my top ten list.
I think they're ruining the things that gave the first film its (sadly few) redeeming features by Americanizing the sequel.
That's good. Go to a site started by Americans where at least 70% of the members are American and bash America. Way to make friends buddy. I have read most if not all of your post so far and most of them either have something offensive in them or could potentially start a flame war. You need to tone it down a bit if you want to fit in around here.
Sorry for the rant. Back to 28 weeks later please.http://www.allthingszombie.com/images/jvsmily.gif
MADMAN
06-07-2005, 10:27 PM
While I don't necessarily agree with the "anti-american" sentiments, I do agree that part of what made 28DL good IMO was that it had a different perspective. Truth be told, most of our zombie films are the same. (I still don't agree that 28DL is a zombie movie, but...) We, as Americans, tend to have a concensus regarding perspective. British, Japanese, Canadian et al film makers, are different, and therefore in their own ways interesting. I am not sure how they intend to "Americanize" the next film, if they do so at all, but if it's Doyle at the helm, I think we'll be okay.
tarman
06-07-2005, 11:20 PM
it's going to be tough to pick up where they left off and have a movie with the same kind of feel to it. the whole 28 days later movie is awesome, but the first half of it is the best part. my favorate part of the movie is when jim wakes up and finds that london is completely abandoned. the rage zombies are just an added bonus :)
i believe that there really is no way for the sequal to be better than the first in my lowly opinion, being that the setup is my favorate part. but! i do hope that they stick with the same general tone and theme, or an equally intense one.
i find that to be my favorate parts of all post-apocalypse movies like the last man on earth, the omega man, 28 days later, the quiet earth, and so on... absorbing the atmosphere of isolation (on a very grand scale). through that i can fulfill my secret hopes of civilization crumbling!
King Robert
06-08-2005, 12:45 AM
I think you heard me wrong. I never said "I hate Americans" or "America sucks". I said that it's bad that it's being made American-style, not that the guys who're making it ARE American. I don't have no problem with u fellas. In fact, I think you've done some good things:
-world's best military
-your country is anti-gay
-you recently made marijuana a drug classified as being in the same area as heroin (potheads=degenerates, that should be obvious to anybody)
I'd still rather live here, but America isn't TOO bad a choice. And I'd rather get dicked around by u guys than China, since China has literally no understanding of Human Rights.
I didn't mean to offend anybody when I said something that was percieved as anti-American. I'm merely anti-woman and anti-gay. Just wanted to clear that up, folks.
preacher
06-08-2005, 03:38 AM
I'm merely anti-woman and anti-gay. Just wanted to clear that up, folks.
Oh shut up and go away
skelington
06-08-2005, 04:09 AM
Sorry well then I will just edit that little bit out.
As for 28 Days Later I'm really looking forward to this. I can't wait to see how the millitary plan to reclaim the cities from the infected.
Bad Zombie Night
06-08-2005, 04:21 AM
Wait how can you be anti-women? If you are male and anti-gay then shouldn't you love women?
I think KR was trying to calm the waters by making a joke.
As for 28 Days Later I'm really looking forward to this. I can't wait to see how the millitary plan to reclaim the cities from the infected.
Yep, so that they can fill them with people, and reinfect them again. ;-)
Kemper
06-08-2005, 12:41 PM
It would seem simple that when the infected die...they become zombies if not properly disposed of. I would think the movie would move along these lines.
Either that or some stupid american will have a big huge momma zombie crapping out litttle ones. :)
King Robert
06-08-2005, 03:06 PM
It would seem simple that when the infected die...they become zombies if not properly disposed of. I would think the movie would move along these lines.
Either that or some stupid american will have a big huge momma zombie crapping out litttle ones. :)
Well thanx for sticking that image in my head and ruining my appetite.
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