Warning: Real Zombie Footage...

[secretcog]

The following links are not a hoax. This is true reanimation experimintation...at least, that's what I've been told.

This is a direct quote from a fellow Mabus Incarnate Forum member...

Has anyone heard about this? I guess since the late 30's and the 40's scientists have been expirimenting with reanimating various different animals. Dogs seem to be the prefered subject though. And now they are talking about doing this to humans.

Here is a link to a NY times article on the subject.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/11/magazine/11ideas_section4-21.html


Here is a link to a video of an old Russian experiment reanimating a severed dog's head.

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=227






and here is a couple minutes of that video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSrIkUXwsNk

[Undead Ryan]

This just seems cruel and un-godly. Zombies are fiction and thats what they will stay as. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[secretcog]

LOL, you haven't bursted my bubble. I think the Soviet footage is propaganda. However, we can resesitate, and that in itself is reanimation. Not the classic cannabalistic zombie, but fascinating isn't it?

My point is, if science can bring the dead back to life, couldn't they also create a bio-zed?

[Undead Ryan]

I don't think so. Who knows. I mean scientists cant really make a Virus that sais attack humans, spread viruses and whatever else zombies are composed of. Then mass produce it legally. I just don't see that happening.

[secretcog]

Legal.

Hmmm...alright, allow me to describe this another way.

Our species most basic function is to survive and procreate. Everything we do is in support of said functions. Everything. Law...legality, is our way of establishing boundaries to further our kind. Yadda, yadda, yadda.

How does arm pit farting the theme to Spiderman assist in our basic functions? (side note: there's someone for everyone, and there's always that one person whose into something most consider...icky) Ummm...I forgot my point here.

How about this:

Survival sometimes goes hand in hand with greed. Aside from greed, there's always a sicko willing to cause harm to Innocent individuals. These are two archetypes who might be willing to develop and possibly disperse a zombie virus.

Aside from them, what about a scientific accident? Survival means to not die, and yet...we all die at some point. Unless...our species develops away to prolong life/reanimate life! We can already resuscitate the deceased. Resuscitation is reanimation, is it not?

Scientist with good intention develops a means to revive recently dead humans. Mr. Sicko hears about this discovery and finds an insider who works at the lab responsible for said experimentation. Mr. Sicko uses currency to persuade the insider into leaking confidential information. The insider becomes Mr. Greedy and follows suit. Mr. Greedy takes findings to a large group of sickos with Bio-weapon experience.

[insert mouth dropping shock here]

I enjoy zombies the way one might enjoy a roller coaster ride. It's scary, but you'll be fine...hopefully. Zombies used to be sci-fi horror. Then again, so did cloning. People were ridiculed for the thought, and the same treatment was given to the idea of a flying machine...and now we are in space!

The zombie virus is a threat. Maybe the biggest threat in human history. Take this with a grain of salt. Enjoy the novels, comics, movies, and games. Find it's entertainment value and have fun. Just. Don't. Underestimate. It!

At the slightest evidence of a zombie virus, I'm telling Uncle Sam, and I'll personally make it my life's mission to see to the virus's annihilation.

[UseYourHeadCutOffTheirs]

The zombie virus is a threat. Maybe the biggest threat in human history. Take this with a grain of salt. Enjoy the novels, comics, movies, and games. Find it's entertainment value and have fun. Just. Don't. Underestimate. It!

At the slightest evidence of a zombie virus, I'm telling Uncle Sam, and I'll personally make it my life's mission to see to the virus's annihilation.


I agree 100%. I spread that same word to people everyday and they look at me like I'm crazy....:loon:

I love zombies just as much as anyone else on here. I pray and beg that something like that NEVER happens though.

It's like a lot of people actually miss the point. Even the zombie fans are missing the point in all the books and movies and comics...


Point being, zombies tend to be an accident.


Ok I am putting two and two together. Just the other night I was watching the news and there was this story with these "government officials" and they were talking about the next terrorist attack. The government predicts/expects a terrorist attack either nuclear or biological within the next 5 years. So I hear biological terrorism and I instantly think zombies. What better way to wipe out a race or country of people you hate, than have them eat each other alive?

So there's that. Then I find out that we have been bringing dead tissue back to not so much life but animation for the past like 60 years?!?!?!


hmmm....


I'm not saying it can happen, I'm saying it could happen. Zombies aren't something I would hope people would strive to create. I think that just like in our books and movies, they are accidents. The experiment goes wrong.

So the next time you are walking down the street and you see this hostile guy attacking people, think first. Pay attention. Don't always give the benefit of the doubt. That's how people die so fast in the beginning. No one thinks it can happen, therefore when it does they disregard the idea and approach unsuspecting. Next thing you know, they're dead too.:doh:

[secretcog]

Well stated! I especially like your comment about approaching a violent altercation where a person is hostile to a group of people. Fight or Flight springs to mind. Most would flight. That's common. Law enforcement, military, and/or an individual who has some connection to the victims are more likely to fight. Keeping the zombie virus in mind is a good survival tip. Unless your buddies are in a bar brawl and you go on a Luna-rage and start crying zombies at the first sign of blood. Nothing a few months of meds in the asylum can't fix!

I agree 100%. I spread that same word to people everyday and they look at me like I'm crazy....:loon:

I love zombies just as much as anyone else on here. I pray and beg that something like that NEVER happens though.

It's like a lot of people actually miss the point. Even the zombie fans are missing the point in all the books and movies and comics...


Point being, zombies tend to be an accident.


Ok I am putting two and two together. Just the other night I was watching the news and there was this story with these "government officials" and they were talking about the next terrorist attack. The government predicts/expects a terrorist attack either nuclear or biological within the next 5 years. So I hear biological terrorism and I instantly think zombies. What better way to wipe out a race or country of people you hate, than have them eat each other alive?

So there's that. Then I find out that we have been bringing dead tissue back to not so much life but animation for the past like 60 years?!?!?!


hmmm....


I'm not saying it can happen, I'm saying it could happen. Zombies aren't something I would hope people would strive to create. I think that just like in our books and movies, they are accidents. The experiment goes wrong.

So the next time you are walking down the street and you see this hostile guy attacking people, think first. Pay attention. Don't always give the benefit of the doubt. That's how people die so fast in the beginning. No one thinks it can happen, therefore when it does they disregard the idea and approach unsuspecting. Next thing you know, they're dead too.:doh:

[Subgenius]

Zombies are not real and never could be real.

Resuscitation is not reanimation, sorry.


Anyway, here s a cool video to enjoy...

Real zombie attack Russia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrywDcr_m14

[MFISH618]

So you really think a zombie invasion is eminent ?
That's really............... never mind.

[secretcog]

Zombies are not real and never could be real.

Resuscitation is not reanimation, sorry.


Anyway, here s a cool video to enjoy...

Real zombie attack Russia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrywDcr_m14

Zombies are not real and never could be real?

Please allow me to respond to this statement with a question: What type of zombie(s) are we referring to?

I can list the definitions and historically outline the origins of a seemingly limitless directory of zombies; or I can describe the zombie I was referring to and forgot to make mention. For that omission, I do apologize. I choose the later…

I’ve spent the past few years researching and cataloging zombies. My studies have found its related subculture to be nothing short of fanciful. To date, our scientific and/or medical communities cannot resuscitate/reanimate a severely decomposed cadaver. There will be no skeletal bodies digging themselves out of graves on a pursuit of human prey. Least we forget it would defy the known laws of physics as they pertain to the “cycle of life”.
With that said…

My explorations into zombie lore are nothing more then shear entertainment and novel writing research. I want my villains to be as real and believable as possible. In order to do this I needed to interview professionals in fields that delve in human physiology. I’ve encountered little ridicule, and nearly everyone I speak with referenced a bio-weapon type zombie as the most plausible scenario that could bring my characters to life.

Without divulging my plots, character conceptions, and without “spilling the beans” as to the “special sauce” of this piece, I can tell you this: The zombie is a living, breathing human organism. All of their bodily functions perform adequately to maintain its life. They are slower (shamblers), and they are seemingly mindless as to their cognition. A bio-weapon is responsible for the zombies. The “bug” infects and manipulates the human host. The infected individual looses memory, and most of its consciousness. It feeds on human flesh in order to survive and in order to procreate the “bug.”

That’s all I’m willing to blab at this point in time. The physiology I have outlined in the story I’m working on, paints a terrifying picture of a zombie. What leads to its validation are the physiological facts that are fundamental to the dynamics of the zombie characters I am straining to establish.

Now I’d like to make mention that a zombie outbreak in this era is as believable as the cell phone was in the 1960’s. Watch the original Star Trek serials and compare their sci-fi technology to the actual technologies we use today. Viewers scoffed at the shows allusions of a future Earth, and today, those same skeptics own many of the items they were once so quick to criticize. Better stated: “People mocked the Wright Brothers for wanting to fly.”

As for your comment: “Resuscitation is not reanimation, sorry.”

This is an issue that I have been trying to sort out. Reanimation isn’t defined in conventional dictionaries that I’ve been able to acquire. I found the following on-line at:

http://www.answers.com/topic/reanimation-2

Reanimation: n. (rē̍*ăn"ĭ*mā"shŬn)
The act or operation of reanimating, or the state of being reanimated; reinvigoration; revival.

Now the definition for resuscitation from:

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Resuscitation:
The act of reviving a person and returning them to consciousness.

Both definitions include the words revival in one form or the other, lol. So how is one not the other again? Don’t take offence at my playful jibe. Most zombie enthusiasts aren’t medically trained, as I’m not. A medical student was the one who pointed out it’s similarity for me. I ate my words and exhorted an embarrassed chuckle; I blushed.

[secretcog]

So you really think a zombie invasion is eminent ?
That's really............... never mind.

Please...complete your thought.

If you think zombies are ridiculous (and your probably right), please state your case for believing so.

If you think zombies are a realistic threat, (and they might be if zombies can be fashioned to resemble those depicted in cataclysmic horror films), please state why?

I won't be offended. This is for research and leisure. I don't have a hidden underground bunker and survival stockpile in preparations for "any" zombie outbreak. I simply stumbled upon theories that a zombie bio-weapon is achievable. Theoretically speaking! A theory only!

[UseYourHeadCutOffTheirs]

http://www.answers.com/topic/reanimation-2

Reanimation: n. (rē̍*ăn"ĭ*mā"shŬn)
The act or operation of reanimating, or the state of being reanimated; reinvigoration; revival.

Now the definition for resuscitation from:

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Resuscitation:
The act of reviving a person and returning them to consciousness.

Both definitions include the words revival in one form or the other, lol. So how is one not the other again? Don’t take offence at my playful jibe. Most zombie enthusiasts aren’t medically trained, as I’m not. A medical student was the one who pointed out it’s similarity for me. I ate my words and exhorted an embarrassed chuckle; I blushed.

I think the key word there is "consciousness." In order to be resuscitated you must be brought back to a state of consciousness. In order to be reanimated, you just simply have to be moving again. Cognitive thinking and to be at a state of awareness or "consciousness" isn't necessary.



I don't want the idea of anything zombie like to ever ever ever become real in any way shape or form....But I really don't see why it couldn't happen. I really don't see why there can't be a "rage virus" if you will, created. I just don't see how people who are assumed to think relatively deep in this topic could immediately put down such an idea as blasphemy.

[Subgenius]

Zombies in the mode of alive, then dead, and then moving around while dead cannot, not ever, never, never, never exist. Not ever. Sorry. But, that's the way the universe works for us on Earth. Once a multi-cellular organism experiences cell death due to the cascade breakdown of Mitochondrion DNA, then the game is over. You are done. No resuscitation will bring you back. No cryogenics sleep will keep you around to be revived. Cell Death is the absolute end of the line.In addition to supplying cellular energy, mitochondria are involved in a range of other processes, such as signaling, cellular differentiation, cell death, as well as the control of the cell cycle and cell growthOnce those processes end, then you are dead for good. The zombie, as far as we know in literature and movies, must fully die and then reanimate (in that they are still dead, but are also mobile). Rage Virus victims, and many other zombie-like characters in film and books, are not dead in the truly dead sense. They do behave like zombies, but they are not the same. They are merely living beings with rabies like diseases or infections. These are still living human beings and not true zombies as we think of as undead (dead, yet mobile).Apoptosis is a form of programmed cell death in multi-cellular organisms. It is one of the main types of programmed cell death (PCD) and involves a series of biochemical events leading to a characteristic cell morphology and death, in more specific terms, a series of biochemical events that lead to a variety of morphological changes, including blebbing, changes to the cell membrane such as loss of membrane asymmetry and attachment, cell shrinkage, nuclear fragmentation, chromatin condensation, and chromosomal DNA cascade fragmentation. Processes of disposal of cellular debris whose results do not damage the organism differentiate apoptosis from necrosis.Necrosis happens to a living creature, and is not referring to a dead being.Necrosis is the name given to premature or unnatural death of cells and living tissue. Necrosis is caused by external factors, such as infection, toxins, or trauma. This is in contrast to apoptosis, which is a naturally occurring cause of cellular death. While apoptosis often provides beneficial effects to the cells host organisms, necrosis is almost always detrimental, and can be fatal.

Cells which die due to necrosis do not usually send the same chemical signals to the immune system that cells undergoing apoptosis do. This prevents nearby phagocytes from locating and engulfing the dead cells, leading to a build up of dead tissue and cell debris at or near the site of the cell death. For this reason, it is often necessary to remove necrotic tissue surgically.So, in my opinion, a true UNDEAD zombie CANNOT exist. Not ever. Anything else is a living being with a disease, which might mimic or copy what we see in films about zombies, but they are not truly dead beings that are also mobile (and, in most zombie films, canniblaistic).

[Panther7]

okay the second i saw this thread i know i have to intervene somehow, i have not read any of the other comments or watched the vids, i have one thing to say.

Zombies can exist and probably will at some point, but these videos are a insult because if they where real they would not be ignored, they would be the next "2 girls 1 cup" and would be posted everywhere. What the people who are posting them are doing is ruining our credibility, our will to believe, as i do, that the living dead can and probably do exist.

I'm getting the hell out before i get caught up in a flame war that is defiantly going on and must end...

[DarthJoe8]

they would be the next "2 girls 1 cup" and would be posted everywhere.

One dude one jar...:lol: google it if you dare....:puke:

:drinking:

[Subgenius]

Zombies can exist and probably will at some point, but...

No, they cannot exist and never will.

It's not a flame war issue. It's just common sense.

Undead beings do not, and never will exist.

Vampires cannot exist...

Zombies cannot exist...

If you think that they can, then explain how.

[UseYourHeadCutOffTheirs]

Subgenius, I just love how you give off the impression that you know everything about everything.


LISTEN!!!!!


It does not have to be living people dieing then coming back to an undead state and eating living people....

We are using the turn "zombie" very loosely. Basically saying cannibals or rage virus victims, things like that...We are talking people violently hurting and mostly biting and ripping people apart...

Not necessarily Romero style zombies rising from the grave....Yes that is something that I don't believe can happen.

Although I can believe in a 28 days later type thing happening.....I can believe in science screwing around with things and developing hostility drugs and viruses.

It's not as far fetched as you try to say it is.

[Subgenius]

It's not hard to know about true death. Zombies are undead. There are already threads about 28 Days/Weeks Later types of "zombies"; actually, the better term is INFECTED. And, I have agreed that THOSE types, not UNDEAD, can happen (although, I HIGHLY DOUBT that an "invasion" of rabid humans will sweep the Earth). Just because I am able to get my points out so well does NOT mean that I know everything about everything. So, just calm down. If you can cite even one instance of rabid, raging, virus infected people acting any way like "zombies," or like the RV infected people from 28D/WL, then you would GREATLY help your points.

[Crombie]

Notice that the article in the OP are from 2005. 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008 called! They want their threads back! This crap has been posted here at least twice a year since that story was released - if not more often. The dogs are a hoax. :D

[Creeping Death]

LOL, you haven't bursted my bubble. I think the Soviet footage is propaganda. However, we can resesitate, and that in itself is reanimation. Not the classic cannabalistic zombie, but fascinating isn't it?

My point is, if science can bring the dead back to life, couldn't they also create a bio-zed?

Maybe.
Just maybe.....

[Subgenius]

Resesitate?

Is that when zombies come back to life during recess?

LOL. Just kidding :)

Resuscitation can only be done to CLINICALLY dead people.

It is not reanimation of a dead body.Clinical death is the popular term for cessation of blood circulation and breathing. It occurs when the heart stops beating in a regular rhythm, a condition called cardiac arrest. The term is also sometimes used in resuscitation research.

Stopped blood circulation has historically been difficult to reverse. The absence of blood circulation and vital functions related to blood circulation was considered to be the definition of death. In the middle of the 20th century it became possible to often reverse cardiac arrest through cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR), defibrillation, epinephrine injection, and other treatments to restore normal heartbeat and circulation. Instead of death, cardiac arrest came to be called "clinical death", meaning the clinical appearance of death. Clinical death is now seen as a medical condition that precedes death rather than actually being dead.

At the onset of clinical death, consciousness is lost within several seconds. Measurable brain activity stops within 20 to 40 seconds. Irregular gasping may occur during this early time period, and is sometimes mistaken by rescuers as a sign that CPR is not necessary. During clinical death, all tissues and organs in the body steadily accumulate a type of injury called ischemic injury.So, you cannot resuscitate a person that has been really, really dead. ONLY a clinically dead person can be resuscitated, but THAT is NOT the same as reanimation in the zombie sense of death and coming back from the dead as an undead creature (which only exists in fiction). When the term resuscitate has the word reanimation in the definition, they mean medical reanimation of a clinically dead person and not undead reanimation.

Once the brain is dead, in that I mean that lack of oxygen has caused severe brain damage, the person is brain dead even though the body can be resuscitated; the brain is a "vegetable" as they say. If they do not resuscitate for a while, then cell death kills the rest of the body and that is the end of the line. No reanimation after that. No person that has been resuscitated has ever been a zombie in the undead sense.

[Creeping Death]

Resesitate?

Is that when zombies come back to life during recess?

LOL. Just kidding :)

Resuscitation can only be done to CLINICALLY dead people.

It is not reanimation of a dead body.Clinical death is the popular term for cessation of blood circulation and breathing. It occurs when the heart stops beating in a regular rhythm, a condition called cardiac arrest. The term is also sometimes used in resuscitation research.

Stopped blood circulation has historically been difficult to reverse. The absence of blood circulation and vital functions related to blood circulation was considered to be the definition of death. In the middle of the 20th century it became possible to often reverse cardiac arrest through cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR), defibrillation, epinephrine injection, and other treatments to restore normal heartbeat and circulation. Instead of death, cardiac arrest came to be called "clinical death", meaning the clinical appearance of death. Clinical death is now seen as a medical condition that precedes death rather than actually being dead.

At the onset of clinical death, consciousness is lost within several seconds. Measurable brain activity stops within 20 to 40 seconds. Irregular gasping may occur during this early time period, and is sometimes mistaken by rescuers as a sign that CPR is not necessary. During clinical death, all tissues and organs in the body steadily accumulate a type of injury called ischemic injury.So, you cannot resuscitate a person that has been really, really dead. ONLY a clinically dead person can be resuscitated, but THAT is NOT the same as reanimation in the zombie sense of death and coming back from the dead as an undead creature (which only exists in fiction). When the term resuscitate has the word reanimation in the definition, they mean medical reanimation of a clinically dead person and not undead reanimation.

Once the brain is dead, in that I mean that lack of oxygen has caused severe brain damage, the person is brain dead even though the body can be resuscitated; the brain is a "vegetable" as they say. If they do not resuscitate for a while, then cell death kills the rest of the body and that is the end of the line. No reanimation after that. No person that has been resuscitated has ever been a zombie in the undead sense.

A clinically dead person, is still a dead person.

[Subgenius]

A clinically dead person, is still a dead person.

No, they are not. That's why "clinically dead" is a medical term. Once you are clinically dead (no HEART BEAT) for too long, you NEVER come back. NEVER. Your brain dies from lack of blood and oxygen. After about eight to ten minutes, your brain will be damaged by lack of oxygen. You do not come back from that even if they resuscitate your body. Your become a vegetable, as they say. Not a zombie. Clinically dead means that your heart stopped beating, and your lungs stopped breathing. You're not quite dead yet, as Monty Python would put it.

[mrlaughingman]

many of you say that you never want to see an outbreak, and that you never want to see hordes of zombies. personally i cant wait for the day that a horde of zombies come stumbling down my street. on that day i will be in heaven. i maybe sick for thinking that but a zombie apocoliptic world is a world i would love to live in.

[mrlaughingman]

well what about this theory

traveling through the bloodstream from the point of entry to the brain, where the virus replicates in the cells of the frontal lobe, thus turning the frontal lobe into an entirely new organ that does not need food, water, or even air to survive. It can be described as a completely self-sufficient organism.

[mrlaughingman]

the virus dosnt have to kill you i mean the definiton of zombie is
zombie or zombi
Noun
pl -bies or -bis
1. a person who appears to be lifeless, apathetic, or totally lacking in independent judgment
2. a corpse brought to life by witchcraft [W African zumbi good-luck fetish]

i mean the virus could simply reprogram your body and mind to be a mindless flesh eating machine

[Subgenius]

I want to be clear: an outbreak of Romero-style zombies could never happen on any scientific level. If you believe in supernatural, God-inspired, zombies, whatever God you want to use, then that is never going to happen. That is fiction. Corpses don't rise from the dead.

If you think that a virus could cause some sort of full-blown mutation of the human brain, then I think that that is a stretch of science that is just not likely to ever happen. I say not likely because the entire mutation of the brain thing is just too much like science fiction.

The only type of "zombie" outbreak that I would take as a remote, remote possibility would be the rabies virus. It does not create zombies, but it does make people go crazy. They will act like the people in 28D/WL, except on super-PCP and steroids. It's more likely than any other idea. The problem with that is that rabies kills the infected. A super-rabies virus would just kill the infected person much faster. It prevents its own outbreak. It would kill the infected too quickly to spread fast enough to be like the Rage Virus. So, I think it is highly unlikely.

But, don't lose faith so quickly. CNN ran a show called Planet in Peril. No, it was not about zombies, LOL. But, Anderson Cooper commented on viruses in his segments on African starvation, Ebola, and HIV. He noted, rather alarmingly, that medical science has only identified or discovered roughly 20% of the viruses in Africa. That leaves a lot of unknown diseases floating around on that continent.

[DarthJoe8]

zombie or zombi
Noun
pl -bies or -bis
1. a person who appears to be lifeless, apathetic, or totally lacking in independent judgment
2. a corpse brought to life by witchcraft [W African zumbi good-luck fetish]


My problem with the definition of "zombie" is that it leaves out the most popular interpretation of it. Which is the Romero zombie. WTF!! :think:

:drinking:

[Subgenius]

It's an anti-Romero conspiracy by the elite dictionary coalition :scare: :x

[mrlaughingman]

If you think that a virus could cause some sort of full-blown mutation of the human brain, then I think that that is a stretch of science that is just not likely to ever happen. I say not likely because the entire mutation of the brain thing is just too much like science fiction.

you know what else was science fiction at one point televisions, computers, airplanes, and man in space.

[secretcog]

okay the second i saw this thread i know i have to intervene somehow, i have not read any of the other comments or watched the vids, i have one thing to say.

Zombies can exist and probably will at some point, but these videos are a insult because if they where real they would not be ignored, they would be the next "2 girls 1 cup" and would be posted everywhere. What the people who are posting them are doing is ruining our credibility, our will to believe, as i do, that the living dead can and probably do exist.

I'm getting the hell out before i get caught up in a flame war that is defiantly going on and must end...

Flame war...that's funny! Subgenius and I aren't enemies, just debating...it's the only way to prove or to disprove theories. It's all science. But the Flame War things is funny as h-ll! Love that!

[joerrrrrr]

Im going to have to go with subgenius on this one. i think it is pretty much impossible for the dead to rise and become cannibalistic. i do believe, however, that it is possible to make zombie but it wont follow the urban definition of the dead coming alive again. in my opinion it would go somthing like this. nanotech scientists create a nanobot that goes into your brain to rewire nerves to help your immune system fight diseases ( theyve already created one of these that can cure type 1 diabetes in rats). but the nanobot switches into survie and expand mode and completly rewires the nervous system to gain complete control of the body. the bot would then procede to try to infect others by fillin the saliva with the nanobot them bite another host.

[kanUsurvive]

Okay, I think everybody here pretty much believes that the dead and buried cannot come back. We are not just talking about Romero type zombies. We are talking about viruses infecting the living. Like in 28days and weeks. It really isn't that far fetched. Just think of what was said earlier, super rabies. If anyone has ever saw a raccoon with rabies they are crazy! How about if rabies mutated in the human body. The same effects just on a greater scale. Giving us not dead zombies coming back. Just normal people who have been infected then they lose all control over there body. Then the other comment about the diseases in Africa. Yeah, who knows what all lies in wait over there.

Then the religious debate no more room in hell the dead will walk the Earth. How about if God is real? We would be in for it then wouldn't we?

[researcher]

Zombies are not real and never could be real?

Please allow me to respond to this statement with a question: What type of zombie(s) are we referring to?

I can list the definitions and historically outline the origins of a seemingly limitless directory of zombies; or I can describe the zombie I was referring to and forgot to make mention. For that omission, I do apologize. I choose the later…

I’ve spent the past few years researching and cataloging zombies. My studies have found its related subculture to be nothing short of fanciful. To date, our scientific and/or medical communities cannot resuscitate/reanimate a severely decomposed cadaver. There will be no skeletal bodies digging themselves out of graves on a pursuit of human prey. Least we forget it would defy the known laws of physics as they pertain to the “cycle of life”.
With that said…

My explorations into zombie lore are nothing more then shear entertainment and novel writing research. I want my villains to be as real and believable as possible. In order to do this I needed to interview professionals in fields that delve in human physiology. I’ve encountered little ridicule, and nearly everyone I speak with referenced a bio-weapon type zombie as the most plausible scenario that could bring my characters to life.

Without divulging my plots, character conceptions, and without “spilling the beans” as to the “special sauce” of this piece, I can tell you this: The zombie is a living, breathing human organism. All of their bodily functions perform adequately to maintain its life. They are slower (shamblers), and they are seemingly mindless as to their cognition. A bio-weapon is responsible for the zombies. The “bug” infects and manipulates the human host. The infected individual looses memory, and most of its consciousness. It feeds on human flesh in order to survive and in order to procreate the “bug.”

That’s all I’m willing to blab at this point in time. The physiology I have outlined in the story I’m working on, paints a terrifying picture of a zombie. What leads to its validation are the physiological facts that are fundamental to the dynamics of the zombie characters I am straining to establish.

Now I’d like to make mention that a zombie outbreak in this era is as believable as the cell phone was in the 1960’s. Watch the original Star Trek serials and compare their sci-fi technology to the actual technologies we use today. Viewers scoffed at the shows allusions of a future Earth, and today, those same skeptics own many of the items they were once so quick to criticize. Better stated: “People mocked the Wright Brothers for wanting to fly.”

As for your comment: “Resuscitation is not reanimation, sorry.”

This is an issue that I have been trying to sort out. Reanimation isn’t defined in conventional dictionaries that I’ve been able to acquire. I found the following on-line at:

http://www.answers.com/topic/reanimation-2

Reanimation: n. (rē̍*ăn"ĭ*mā"shŬn)
The act or operation of reanimating, or the state of being reanimated; reinvigoration; revival.

Now the definition for resuscitation from:

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Resuscitation:
The act of reviving a person and returning them to consciousness.

Both definitions include the words revival in one form or the other, lol. So how is one not the other again? Don’t take offence at my playful jibe. Most zombie enthusiasts aren’t medically trained, as I’m not. A medical student was the one who pointed out it’s similarity for me. I ate my words and exhorted an embarrassed chuckle; I blushed.

You know i am really admiring how you deal with people :) not in a insulting way but completely showing them facts and how it could happen! but of coarse, if you may have not known this zombies are real. not really to you in general but to everyone here. There are certain voodoo rituals in Africa that is called Zombiefacation i probably spelled it wrong but it is a true thing. IF you want you can look it up yourself :). Just thought i'd throw that out there.

[SWAT Zombie]

One dude one jar...:lol: google it if you dare....:puke:

:drinking:
oh... oh... oh god. oh GOD!!!!! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! ....mmmnuh ....mnuh... erh.. erh... oh oh oh OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD! OH GOD!

"2 girls 1 cup"

hmmm... huh?... are they?... um.... is that?..... oh... oh... oh... oh no! NO! NO! NO! OH GOD! NO! WHY JESUS? WHY? FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?
:puke: ....mneh ....mneh.... :puke::puke::puke: ...mneh.... gasp gasp pant pant pant MUMMY!!!! MUMMY!!!! MUMMY!!!! I WANT MY MUMMY!!!!!! :puke::puke::puke:

[Neebz]

sorry to add on to this discussion , but i could not help myself.

now over the years there have been several different theories of zombies.. anything from being resurrected from the dead or catching some odd virus..

i was surprised to find that none of you brought up hypnosis. there are a few cases of individuals controlling large group of people under hypnosis, although hypnosis is often temporary. but im sure it is possible for some type of drug or method to put you under state of hypnosis that can be controlled when ever by a specific individual.

but like i said, there are several different theories of zombies, the base line is in my opinion overly violent, uncontrollable (unless under hypnosis by another individual) cannibalism..

and yes i realise this post is about a year late....