Henry survival rifle

[MaxVeers]

I saw one of these at a local pawn shop. 199 new.

http://www.survival-gear-guide.com/image-files/henry-survival.jpg

Air rifle, .22, everything breaks down and fits into the (floating) back chamber. Teflon-covered to resist breakdown and rust. Holds two clips in the waterproof section, as well. Plus, it looks like a Mauser broomhandle-era rifle.

http://world.guns.ru/civil/ar7-3.jpg

Kinda cool.

[Hitman]

my brother has one. its a pretty cool package , but not the most usefull . the barrel is decently accurate but it can be picky on what ammo it likes. the way the barrel indexes is not the most resiliant either.

[Dave Of The Dead]

I don't think I would trust an air rifle if I were in a zombie situation. What happens when you run out of CO2 canisters?

[Jimmy]

I don't think I would trust an air rifle if I were in a zombie situation. What happens when you run out of CO2 canisters?

It's a 22 caliber rifle, not a pellet gun.

I used to have one of those when I was like 12 it was pretty cool but the barrel had to be screwed in REALLY tight or it would wobble. lol

[Dave Of The Dead]

Ah, I thought it was a .22 air rifle.

[MaxVeers]

Ah, I thought it was a .22 air rifle.

It is an air rifle, but not "air" as in cartridges.


I think, for what it is, it would do in a pinch. You're also less likely to have it be seen or get it stolen in a rough situation (looters, for example, or military gun control).

[Hitman]

It is an air rifle, but not "air" as in cartridges.


I think, for what it is, it would do in a pinch. You're also less likely to have it be seen or get it stolen in a rough situation (looters, for example, or military gun control).

what do you mean? they shoot .22lr . the same ammo that a ruger 10/22 or a marlin model 60 shoots.

[Lian]

Their not a bad rifle my uncle has one, but I brought in more small game with general knowledge and some snares then he did with that thing when we were camping out there. And I'm not too sure I'd like one of those at my side against a zed. :roll:

[MaxVeers]

what do you mean? they shoot .22lr . the same ammo that a ruger 10/22 or a marlin model 60 shoots.

What do I mean by what? The fact that it'll do, or that it's less likely to get stolen or taken?

It'll do because a lot of people seem to think .22s are toy guns. They've got enough force, no problem. Some people just don't get that.

And it's easier to hide because it breaks down and can be hidden, buried, or otherwise put in a safe place and later assembled quickly. You could probably even hide it on your person (maybe in a backback) if need-be.

[Lian]

Yes a .22 is a toy rifle. Sure I could defend my house from zeds with one. Easy to line up shots through a boarded window at something standing right there and not dodging. It's not a bad survival rifle for through in the bag when your going backpacking.

But out and about in a post apocalyptic world I want something that has punch not just for zombies but for those other said survivors that are trying to take my rifle. Hide it? Hell they'll have to pry it from my cold dead fingers.

[mattifikation]

I think what he meant was, what do you mean it's an "air rifle?"

I'm confused about that also. I thought it was a regular gun, since it shoots .22lr ammunition. Where's the "air" part come in?

[Whiterook]

Yes a .22 is a toy rifle.



No, not in the least.

[Eknytz]

I think thats based off the Armalite AR-7 which is in turn based off the AR-5 which was made for the US Airforce as a Pilot/Aircrew Survival Weapon.
The commercial version is semi-auomatic however.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-7

[MaxVeers]

Yes a .22 is a toy rifle.

I think you're a little misguided.

[MaxVeers]

I think what he meant was, what do you mean it's an "air rifle?"

I'm confused about that also. I thought it was a regular gun, since it shoots .22lr ammunition. Where's the "air" part come in?

Every site I've seen describes it as an air rifle. I'm reading to figure this one out.

[Eknytz]

Every site I've seen describes it as an air rifle. I'm reading to figure this one out.

Maybe the one your looking at is an air rifle replica.

[Dave Of The Dead]

I went to the Henry website and read everything about it. It says that it is a semi-auto .22 lr rifle, but I see that screw on cap on the bottom of the stock and think "air rifle." It shoots .22 lr, but uses CO2... I just don't understand...

[Whiterook]

Every site I've seen describes it as an air rifle. I'm reading to figure this one out.

What sights are you reading?

The Henry rifle posted is a .22LR Rimfire rifle. It has nothing to do with air rifles.

I have no idea where the confusion comes from.

[Hitman]

I went to the Henry website and read everything about it. It says that it is a semi-auto .22 lr rifle, but I see that screw on cap on the bottom of the stock and think "air rifle." It shoots .22 lr, but uses CO2... I just don't understand...
the screw cap on the bottom of the grip is what holds the reciever in place in the stock so the gun can be shot from the shoulder (its really a long thumb screw ,not a cap). I have fired it without the stock attached , but its a mostly up close and personal type of weapon then.

[Faran Brigo]

Air rifle, .22, everything breaks down and fits into the (floating) back chamber....
Kinda cool.

It might be because he said it was an air rifle. It's not an air rifle, it has never been an air rifle and it never will be an air rifle, it's a compact .22LR that you can take down.

It was, according to the manufacturers intended as a "survival rifle for pilots", that might be where the "air rifle" moniker comes from but this is highly misleading, I seriously doubt a defense department would procure a .22LR as a PDW.

[Lian]

No, not in the least.

I think you're a little misguided.

Yes, while in most cases a shot to the head by a .22 that actually penetrates is in fact fatal due to the low energy of the rounds it can penetrate initially and then bounces around in the skull scrambling the soft grey matter, they are lightweight, and quite as guns go. .22 handguns were used by mafia assassains for just those reasons.

Having said all that, I still don't trust the .22 caliber to reliably be used as an anti zed weapon while on the move. .22 rounds have been known to ricochet off skulls, people have been shot by .22's and not even known it. Effective range on medium sized targets which I'd say a human falls into is at maximum 65 yards and even then you'll have to be a damn good marksmen.

Theoretically it is even possible to drop larger game but due to the proximity required and level of marksmanship required it's impractical. You can bump up to high Velocity rounds which add about 300-400 FPS on standard rounds if memory serves but it's a moot point.

So typically figuring that your active target range is half of your maximum that means your going for targets at about 30 yards out, and closing. That's the kind of range I'd consider falling back at against multiple targets unless these are your typical Romero type zombies, but that doesn't take into consideration the raiders and other survivors you might encounter in which 30 yards is nothing.

Now then the .223 caliber has it's own set of problems, but those problems are less than noticeable till you get to a range of approximately 100 yards. A range which may be unreasonable to expect for your average rifleman. Most people aren't even practiced in shooting farther than that.

And .308 can penetrate like an 1/8 of steel at 500 yards, or a half inch at a hundred. Zombie skull is swiss cheese to that, and if you can hit a raider at 500 yards with this he'll know it.

Long and short, the .22 is a possibility, people have and will be killed by these small rounds. But given I like to prepare for the worst I'd be much, much more comfortable with a larger caliber. I'll give over that for the less experienced in rifles it may be a fine choice since they might have problems even hitting something as small as a skull past 30 yards, and on that note most rifles out shoot their owners as well, but in a SHTF zombie world I figure there will be plenty of time to practice. Guess you got to go with what you know. :think:

[Whiterook]

That is fine and dandy, but it ain't a toy. People are impressionable, I don't want anyone reading that a ".22 is a toy" and getting careless.

[50 cal]

It fires the 22 lr cartridge. It was originally designed as an air crew survival rifle for taking small game.

A friend has one with a sound suppressor attached. A really nifty little rifle. If you can pick it up for the $199 you stated, it is a decent deal. Not a great one but it would do.

[Dave Of The Dead]

I could see them being useful, but there are also better options for about the same price.

[MaxVeers]

It fires the 22 lr cartridge. It was originally designed as an air crew survival rifle for taking small game.

A friend has one with a sound suppressor attached. A really nifty little rifle. If you can pick it up for the $199 you stated, it is a decent deal. Not a great one but it would do.

Does the sound suppressor take much space? I've seen them with scopes, which sort of voids it's breakdown-and-stash purposes.

They're 199 new pretty much everywhere.


I could see them being useful, but there are also better options for about the same price.

Do the other options break down into a hideable little container in less than a minute, or float? :)

[Lian]

That is fine and dandy, but it ain't a toy. People are impressionable, I don't want anyone reading that a ".22 is a toy" and getting careless.

Oh...clearly we were on different wavelengths there, you were taking the term "Toy Gun" literally and I was thinking that compared to other options it's a joke. :lol:

Well there is always the Darwin awards for those who want to go out and shoot each other with a .22.

[mattdettorre123]

looks decent, personally I would prefer my marlin 925. has a trigger job and free floated barrel very accurate up to 100 yards. custom paint came out nice too

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg247/mattdettorre123/123/IMG_1268.jpg

.22's are not toy rifle's and that kind of thinking can get you hurt or dead. I have used a .22 to kill coyotes it believe it would easily kill a zombie, I will post my head shot test here too for you guys to check out gonna involve some melons and coconuts.