Paintball guns . . .

[Leeboy]

Could paintball guns be used somehow against zombies. If not for killing them, wouldn't it be amusing to sit in the window of a safehouse and shoot zombies for target practice?

[Webber]

Shooting them wouldn't do anything. You could use it as a club though...Dunno if you wanna get that close to something that might not even kill it though. Or you could use the tank as a throwing object...I dunno, recreational purposes sure but I wouldn't waste it against zombies. That'll just attract them to you.

[Augustus Desius]

I guess if you could find floresent paint you could shoot zombies to make them more visible at night. Umm....

You could shoot them in the eyes and either pop them, or cover them in paint, making it hard for them to see you.

You could fill the paint balls with cement, let it harden, and basically fire rocks?

I think I'm out.

[Leeboy]

It'd be cool, I thought.

[Shadowalker191]

I'm going to be keeping mine near by, I have a Smart Parts Epiphany with a black heart board that can fire upwards of 22 round a second. Using compressed air I can fill from home with my own compresser/booster combo. (worked for a local paintball field, have the gear I need to fill my own)

I plan on using it with the reballs i got once i run out of real paint to just take pop shots to piss them off or play with them. Not to mention take out some eyes.

Can also get a supply of pepperballs from a police supplier to use on the still living that start to get to close. (Pepperball-paintball sized round filled with a powderized pepperspray that bursts on impact, imparing that vision and causeing great discomfort to the target) good way to make them a target for the zed's as I make a quick escape.

[Leeboy]

I'm going to be keeping mine near by, I have a Smart Parts Epiphany with a black heart board that can fire upwards of 22 round a second. Using compressed air I can fill from home with my own compresser/booster combo. (worked for a local paintball field, have the gear I need to fill my own)

I plan on using it with the reballs i got once i run out of real paint to just take pop shots to piss them off or play with them. Not to mention take out some eyes.

Can also get a supply of pepperballs from a police supplier to use on the still living that start to get to close. (Pepperball-paintball sized round filled with a powderized pepperspray that bursts on impact, imparing that vision and causeing great discomfort to the target) good way to make them a target for the zed's as I make a quick escape.


Good analysis.

[Darkness]

"I hear they shoot steelies pretty good." :evil:

[mattifikation]

Complete waste of time and space.

The space for that paintball gun could be used for a real gun. Space for the paintballs could be used for bullets. Or food, or medicine, or whatever.

If you already have enough of all that, then leaving behind your toys frees up your movement.

Time spent shooting zombies with paintballs could be time spent shooting zombies with lead. As for using them to turn people into meat shields, a chunk of lead in the knee does that job perfectly.

[Darkness]

"The difference with paintball guns is: As long as its round, smooth, and the right size, a paintball gun can shoot it. It's a handy toy to have around. Marbles, Steelies, Ball Bearings and many other things can be used as ammo."

"I'm not saying it beats cold hard steel and a gun, but it's not totally useless."

[Leeboy]

Complete waste of time and space.

The space for that paintball gun could be used for a real gun. Space for the paintballs could be used for bullets. Or food, or medicine, or whatever.

If you already have enough of all that, then leaving behind your toys frees up your movement.

Time spent shooting zombies with paintballs could be time spent shooting zombies with lead. As for using them to turn people into meat shields, a chunk of lead in the knee does that job perfectly.

Hey don't be hating on paintball. Go play some airsoft, you coward lol.

Anyways, yeah Darkness paintball could be very useful. They could mark zombies and stuff, I dunno. I just thought it'd be cool to shoot zombies with paintballs and see what happened.

*stocks his Tippmann in case Z-Day is tomorrow*

[Lian]

Well if all I have is the paintball gun then I'll try and put it to use...maybe...idk blinding them or something. But as Zombies most likely don't feel pain I doubt it would be of any "real" use. Not to mention Paintballs are kinda bulky. In my Woodsball rig I can carry around 1200 shots, counting my off gun air tank...However in that same amount of space I could carry 2000+ rounds and a real gun and actually do something useful. Personally I think it'd be more useful spending your time actually killing them, or doing something to better your survival position than shooting them with paint.

Some possible actual uses I could see for a paint ball gun though. Shooting some kind of a pepperspray ball at raiders. Covering the windshield of raiders cars in paint so they can't see to drive them. Popping a guy on a motorcycle might blind and even potentially knock him off the bike taking him out of the fight. But given the range and accuracy of your average paint ball gun I still think you'd be better served popping some lead off.

[kai055]

how can u carry more rounds for a real gun when paintballs are smaller, and if u have a backpack and waist of 4 packs on each thats 2000 paintballs and then another 200 in the hopper

[Webber]

I'd rather have 100 rounds for an M4 then 2000 paintballs for a tippmann any day of the week during a ZPAW.

[kai055]

i havent got that choice

[Leeboy]

I'm just saying, I thought it'd be fun to shoot zombies with paintballs. Damn lol. And maybe just maybe you could use the pepperspray paintballs to shoot raiders.

[Lian]

how can u carry more rounds for a real gun when paintballs are smaller, and if u have a backpack and waist of 4 packs on each thats 2000 paintballs and then another 200 in the hopper


Dimensions. Bullets are longer but they are shorter and wider, and I also gain room for 6 more Mollee slots, or 24 more clips on the back of my vest cause I don't have to carry an air tank anymore. Granted bullets weigh more too but you can fit it in the same amount of space just by changing out the shape of the pouches. Additionally you can wear a backpack over something more condensed that paint ball pod. Might have been exaggerating over the amount but I'm confident that I could carry more ammo than I could paintballs with the same rig. And even if I'm completely full of shit and off on my numbers I'd still rather carry ammo than paintballs.


[edt] Side note I was also going assumption you went with a smaller caliber round for maximum firepower as apposed to penetration. If your trying to carry 2000 rounds of 7.62, or shotgun shells....well your not going to be running to fast. Maybe that's what your point was IDK...we could just be running on different wavelengths. But there is a common misconception that you have to have the biggest and baddest gun to kill anything, with some people. That's why our weapons just keep getting bigger to the point we can destroy the world 200x over instead of just 100x.

[JakAttak]

I
m not dissin' paintball but they are TOTALLY use less against Z's if you tried to fire ball bearings or something the gun wouldn't have the velocity to pierce skin much less skulls. and as for pissing them of Z's dont feel pain so what the hell?

[Dave Of The Dead]

A paintball gun would be completely useless, unless your figured out some genius way to shoot bullets out of it.

[Darkness]

"Do you guys have any idea how much damage a well place steelie, flying real fast, can do?"

[bandits1]

Sorry, but I'm lol'ing at the paintballers trying to use their toys as real weapons against an enemy that doesn't feel pain. Why in the world would you shoot a zombie just to irritate him? Wouldn't it be more fun - and far more useful - to shoot the bastard with a real gun and take him out of the picture?

The only halfway practical application mentioned was to use the paintball gun to shoot pepper-spray paintballs at unruly humans. I wouldn't feel great about killing non-infected humans(unless they were trying to kill me first), so a non-lethal deterrent would be nice.

I guess if you could find floresent paint you could shoot zombies to make them more visible at night. Umm....

You could shoot them in the eyes and either pop them, or cover them in paint, making it hard for them to see you.

You could fill the paint balls with cement, let it harden, and basically fire rocks?

I think I'm out.
...every shot made by a paintball gun to mark zombies with fluorescent paint could've been made using a real gun to take that zombie out permanently.

...every shot made by a paintball gun to take out a zombie's eyes could have been made using a real gun to take out his brain.


Granted - all the aforementioned ideas are good ideas if the only weapon you have is a paintball gun, but that's not the scenario the OP has layed out. Assuming you already have real weapons on hand, lugging around a paintball gun and all the extra supplies you need to make it work wouldn't be very practical.

[Onslaught]

zombies. i am an avid paintballer (read as addict). zombies.

zombies. the being said, my paintball guns will not be coming with me. my AK will though. zombies.

zombies. the nice thing about paintball is that it gives me a reason to stock up on molle vests/pouches/random other useful crap without being percieved as a survivalist nut by the sheeple. all of my molle gear can pull double duty, paintball and emergency utility. zombies.

[JakAttak]

"Do you guys have any idea how much damage a well place steelie, flying real fast, can do?"

yes I do but a paintball gun cannot muster up the force to shoot something steel with enough velocity to break skin much less a skull

[Darkness]

yes I do but a paintball gun cannot muster up the force to shoot something steel with enough velocity to break skin much less a skull

"After a little adjustment, I've seen a paintballgun shoot a steelie through a wood wall. Is that hitting hard enough?" :)

[JakAttak]

depends was it solid wood or plywood or something like that and how far were you from it

[Darkness]

depends was it solid wood or plywood or something like that and how far were you from it

"Solid Oak Paneling, and from across the dinning room, about ten yards away from the wall. And it wasn't me, it was a friend of mine."

[bandits1]

"After a little adjustment, I've seen a paintballgun shoot a steelie through a wood wall. Is that hitting hard enough?" :)
Not bad...but I'd figure that steelie would lose velocity real fast. Add another 10' of distance and I'm thinkin' that ball-bearing starts to bounce off of the wood.

Still not enough to convice me to carry a paintball gun + accessories in lieu of extra ammo for a real gun, or more food/water, etc...

Of course, if the paintball gun was my only avaliable weapon, I'd carry it around until I found a real gun - any gun - even if it's just a .22 cal plinker. Then I'd leave the paintball gun behind for the next poor sap who has nothing better to protect himself with.

[Darkness]

"I'm not saying it can be a primary weapon. But it could be something you could keep around to kill the boredom, and if nessessary, use as a weapon. That's all." :)

[Cortexx]

I used to play paintball so I LOVE it I was on a 3 man team for 5 years BUT anyway..... To all the people saying a paintball gun is something they would use tell me this then, when you on the move how and the hell are you going to fill your tank? your not and now you have the weight of this gun that you can not use. Ok so your going to hold up in your house or safehouse do you think when Zday is here you going to have power? no power means no filling your tank, and to the guy who said his marker will shot 22 rounds a sec (bro if you worked on a field or a store) then you of all people know firing off that fast will do nothing more then brake a ball in your berrel EVEN if your running a halo hoper..........

Paintball Marker = You and everyone around you DEAD :loon:

[Dave Of The Dead]

Also if your are shooting steelies, you have to consider the fact that your bolt will shatter sooner or later if you keep doing it.

[Darkness]

"I just thought of something else. They could also be good to use as part of the training of new recruits. That way they can learn to aim and shoot, with out accidentally killing each other." :) :lol:

[JakAttak]

well they actually would be pretty bad for training considering they're real light and have no kick properties not shared by a real gun.

[Darkness]

"Not for advanced training, but for beginning training. Like running properly, maneuvering and basic aim and shoot."

"Once they get good at that, THEN you hand them a real gun with Hollywood type splatter blanks. (they mark the hit spot with red paint on impact.) When they prove that they aren't gonna kill each other accidentally, you give them real bullets."

"Besides, why waste precious real ammo training greenhorn n00bs?" :lol: :)

[MaxVeers]

Land of the Dead shows them using paintball guns at close range against chained zombies for amusement, doesn't do a damn thing except make them paint-covered.

[Dave Of The Dead]

I can see training with a paintball gun. You know the whole "squeeze the trigger, don't pull it" kind of thing? Its amazing how many people don't follow that rule. Throws off accuracy big time. You can add weight, like one of those HUGE CO2 canisters to simulate a real gun. I modified my paintball gun so the air was facing the same way as the barrel and not hanging off the back end, so the balance isn't thrown off. I like the idea of training, but not actually using them as a 'practical' weapon.

[JakAttak]

I suppose with modding you could use them for training but the kick still isn't there

[Dave Of The Dead]

I suppose with modding you could use them for training but the kick still isn't there

actually, my friend wanted to go paintballing with me one time, so he bought a POS gun from walmart and it actually had a recoil when you shot it. So far, that is the only one I have seen do it yet.

[JakAttak]

oh I've never seen one of those so umm damn.

[Faran Brigo]

They have about the same recoil as a .22LR, virtually nothing. I know, I've fired both.

What I'm thinking though, is you can make APDS rounds to fire on your paintball gun out of standard nails and a plastic/carboard base. It will take some experimenting and you'll probably end up screwing a couple of guns in the process, but it's still worth it if you have them and want to turn them into something useful.

Also, you could fill the paintballs with a flammable mixture and some mercury fulminate. I'm not sure if that would make the paintball itself too unstable to be fired safely, again, testing is required.

Got a bunch of ideas of how to turn paintball guns deadly, but all of them would require some experimentation and calculations that I'm just too broke to waste money on, and too lazy to do for no good reason respectively.

[OutbreakElite]

Meh..i've been hit a couple times in the neck and face from a distance and it hurts...so to answer the question...probably not gonna kill it unless its one if thise decaying mushy zombies...go for the eyes but you should be packing real heat in an outbreak.

[Dave Of The Dead]

I have noticed that a .22 lr round will fit perfectly into a airsoft gun's barrel, like it would in a revolver's chamber. So if you tore your airsoft gun apart, you could possibly make a one shot top-break style .22
If you want to spend more time on it, you can even make a revolver...

[Hitman]

I have noticed that a .22 lr round will fit perfectly into a airsoft gun's barrel, like it would in a revolver's chamber. So if you tore your airsoft gun apart, you could possibly make a one shot top-break style .22
If you want to spend more time on it, you can even make a revolver...

no. won't work . the barrel is too thin and of poor quality . no firing pin. no good way to seal the base , etc.

[JakAttak]

yea a .22 in an airsoft barrel would work about as well as putting a arrow in a rifle. it just don't work. and before you can say you can modify it and install a firing pin that time and money could be used shopping for a real .22

[Augustus Desius]

Sorry, but I'm lol'ing at the paintballers trying to use their toys as real weapons against an enemy that doesn't feel pain. Why in the world would you shoot a zombie just to irritate him? Wouldn't it be more fun - and far more useful - to shoot the bastard with a real gun and take him out of the picture?

The only halfway practical application mentioned was to use the paintball gun to shoot pepper-spray paintballs at unruly humans. I wouldn't feel great about killing non-infected humans(unless they were trying to kill me first), so a non-lethal deterrent would be nice.


...every shot made by a paintball gun to mark zombies with fluorescent paint could've been made using a real gun to take that zombie out permanently.

...every shot made by a paintball gun to take out a zombie's eyes could have been made using a real gun to take out his brain.


Granted - all the aforementioned ideas are good ideas if the only weapon you have is a paintball gun, but that's not the scenario the OP has layed out. Assuming you already have real weapons on hand, lugging around a paintball gun and all the extra supplies you need to make it work wouldn't be very practical.

I know that, I'm reaching for reasons in order to answer the question asked. In an outbreak, I wouldn't use one even if it was the only weapon on hand due to its inability (I assume, no tests) to damage the brain through the skull.

[JakAttak]

I highly doubt hitting a Z with a paintball gun would do sufficient damage

[JakAttak]

some one argue damn it!!!!!!!!!:x

[ghdeh1]

Paint ball guns would be good training as long as you don't send them to do live fire tests (like going onto a test range and putting a zed on a chain and shooting him as he comes)As weapons they don't cut it, why would you carry a paint ball gun even if it was modified to shoot steel or lead or marbles or any 100 common items people leave behind if you could just take an actual gun for the killing.:loon:

[GunSlingerInferno]

I think they would be good training aids. For one, no recoil can be advantageous because it cuts down on developing bad habits, like anticipating recoil :) you will have to practice with the weapon you will be using, of course. Also, I read in a Sci-Fi book once, that when they couldn't use metal they used ceramic and plastic paintball guns with a special dual chambered paintball with a binary explosive, just a thought.

[mattdettorre123]

I was hit in the face by a paintball shot by a careless friend, it hurt but I was still standing. I think that 2-3 might drop a human if you hit them in the eye. Zeds no way they don't feel pain. maybe if you wanted to stop a looter or something without killing them but why risk it in the PAW.

[Trumble0]

Some basketball player by me got shot in the eye with a Paintball from a distance and it blinded her in one eye so she can never play basketball again, got no depth perception... I'd say that's proof enough that you could blind pretty much anything with a well placed shot... But IDK... I'll stick with real guns... you could probably do some Damage if you froze the paintballs though, I've had frozen paintballs make me bleed... they feel like getting shot with marbles.

[Hitman]

I was hit in the face by a paintball shot by a careless friend, it hurt but I was still standing. I think that 2-3 might drop a human if you hit them in the eye. Zeds no way they don't feel pain. maybe if you wanted to stop a looter or something without killing them but why risk it in the PAW.


thats what a silenced .22 to the groin is for.

[JakAttak]

ow

gotta put some filler in..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jgrCKhxE1s

[Darkshadow]

I might be talking from ignorance here, but don't most paintballing companies ban you from bringing your own paintballs (besides the obvious money-making) because a frozen paintball is essentially a bullet? I'm sure I've seen something where someone was killed by a headshot from a frozen paintball. So hey, why not take one along if you have room.

[foolmasterz]

lol, i certainly would be funny to sit in a building and shoot zeds with paint. its remiesant (cant spell) of the new dawn of the dead where the shoot celebrity look alikes. the only problem with a paintball gun is, its entirly useless as a weapon and therefor, why would you carry it+ ammo around? also, if those zombies were smart enough to connect paint+building=food, then your done for....prolly best to just stay inside and forget about paint for a while.

oh, and as to the frozen thing, after a while they will probably heat up right? and now you've again got a bbuch of useless paint.

[Dave Of The Dead]

The thing that astonishes me about paintball, is that it turns out to be more expensive than a real gun in the long run. paintballs range from 30-50 bucks for maybe 500 rounds. There is also the CO2 which you have to fill up on and paintball isn't exactly a precision sport. Those guns were made for spay and pray, not exact aim. I think you could compare the accuracy of a paintball gun to an early colonial smooth bore rifle, only faster at loading and slower fps. Yeah, you could make the argument that it is a good fail safe weapon as long as the balls were frozen, but then again... some of these paintball guns will cost more than a good, reliable firearm.

[foolmasterz]

exactly....theres just not a whole lot to say about paintball guns. almost completly useless, and much to expensive. why paint, when you could shoot a bullet?

[bandits1]

exactly....theres just not a whole lot to say about paintball guns. almost completly useless, and much to expensive. why paint, when you could shoot a bullet?
Exactly. The only reasonably legit argument I've read in this entire thread to lug around a paintball gun and all it's accessories is if you had a load of pepper-spray balls that you could use as a non-lethal way to try and dissuade human raiders from causing a ruckus.

[foolmasterz]

hmmm i didnt know you could get those....odd. lol.
but of course, and this is just me thinking out loud, if you were the one with the pepper sprey gun, i think in all the post z-day chaos and problem with leadership that would be sure to follow, you might not want to be harming other potentially crazy humans....but ya. so even then, its a bad idea. wow....its almost worse than a flamethrower.....

[50 cal]

It would be kind of funny at times but basically useless.

[jagus12]

The only things that Painball guns would be useful for is to have fun shooting zombies with paint... Useless, funny indeed :lol:

[JakAttak]

I might be talking from ignorance here, but don't most paintballing companies ban you from bringing your own paintballs (besides the obvious money-making) because a frozen paintball is essentially a bullet? I'm sure I've seen something where someone was killed by a headshot from a frozen paintball. So hey, why not take one along if you have room.

yea you are I've been shot in the head with a frozen paintball without a mask gave me a big ass lump and I was seeing double for a few hours.

[Bob]

Perhaps you were hit with a paintball that just didn't pop.
Tyger over on Webdog Radio pretty much proved frozen paintballs don't work. Although if it was in the back yard and the paintball was fresh out of the freezer I won't doubt you.

Marbles are supposed to work out of a paintball marker.
I have never tried it as I don't want to risk screwing up my markers.


Problem is distance and energy.
I would think that up close with a fresh tank a marble might develop enough energy maybe to induce enough blunt force on a skull to stop a smaller (not an adult in life) Zombie.
I would expect eyes to make good targets.

If the target were pretty far gone (decay) then I would expect it to work better.

[slayer1222]

you could fill the painballs with stuff like napalm or gun powder and then aim for the eyes thus frying or blowing up the brain. i would be happy to try incendiary devices in a paint ball but i cannot access gun powder

[Stankynuts]

Sorry, but I'm lol'ing at the paintballers trying to use their toys as real weapons against an enemy that doesn't feel pain. Why in the world would you shoot a zombie just to irritate him? Wouldn't it be more fun - and far more useful - to shoot the bastard with a real gun and take him out of the picture?

ummmm yeah zombies arent here yet so you dont know if they feel pain or not, just letting you in on some real world info