Weapons 102: The ones you DON'T want to have

[Faran Brigo]

We have tons of threads about the "best" weapon, I think at least 3 or 5 talking about the gun you'd want to have, but what about weapons you're better off without?

Don't get me wrong, you use what you have, and this is all relative, but still, I figured it would be interesting to visit the other pantheon, the one of the crap you're better off ditching or ignoring unless there's absolutely nothing better at hand. That said, here's my 2 cents, and I'll start with common newbie choices:

Chainsaw: Mean, menacing, and it's got sharp, pointy teeth, the chainsaw looks like an attractive first choice if you want to take off some limbs. Everybody loves them...

Until you actually carry one around for hours on foot, just ask any lumberjack or professional landscaper. Noisy, bulky, and requiring a steady flow of petrol, the chainsaw is probably as much of a threat (if not more) to your own survival than to the zombies, thanks to the difficulty of properly controlling that kind of blade and using it on a moving target incapable of feeling pain or fear trying to bite you. You need to sever the zombie's head, and you can only take one target at a time, and you'd dispatch them faster with a hammer or axe to boot.

The veredict IMHO: Best left to its original function, cutting wood.

Desert Eagle (excluding baby eagle models): Large, high profile, shinny, large, powerful, intimidating and did I say large? Desert eagles to date have to find a market other than their usual niche; hollywood, colector's guns or gun aficionados that want to have a pistol that can bring down a bear, and for good reason.

The latest production model is about as heavy as some submachineguns without the round capacity, auto fire, or the inherent greater ease of use of a shoulder weapon (over a pistol that is) and of course it's not as accurate. It's also unreliable, clumsy unless you have big hands, and the recoil is very problematic.

The veredict IMHO: This eagle doesn't fly, ditch it as soon as you find a smaller (9mm/.45/.40 pistols) or larger (smg, assault/semiauto rifle) firearm.

Flame weapons: Burn baby burn! fire has been used as a weapon since ancient times, and certainly zombies are flammable. Petrol will probably be widely available (or more so than ammo) until reserves go bad, and styrofoam makes a decent, abundant thickener. You could even take out multiple zombies with one "shot", a perk few other weapons share with man's oldest non canine friend.

Unfortunately it's also one of man's oldest enemies. Weather and battlefield conditions might make you fry along with (or instead of) the rotten ghouls. Fire does not kill instantly either, and there's a good chance of trading hungry moving corpses for hungry moving corpses on fire, not a good deal by any extent of the term. You might end up destroying valuable shelter or supplies as well.

The veredict IMHO: Out of special applications where it shines (body disposal, clearing ground/buildings, anti-marauder terror weapon), fire belongs on your stove, not your holster.

Improvised weapons: Use your creativity! duct tape and icepicks, broomhandles, golf clubs, if you can lift it, it's a weapon!

...Of course just because you can hit something with it, it doesn't mean it will be effective. In some cases, you're better off running than trying to kill a zed with golf clubs.

The veredict IMHO: Avoid if you're not McGyver. If you are, then why the hell haven't you solved the undead rising then? need WD40 and duct tape!?

[IronJayBee]

Makes sence, never liked the Desert Eagle but i agree, weapons that are too heavy to carry with you, weather or not it is powerful, is too dangerous for you lug around, basically, if you go for a chainsaw, good knowing ya

[mil-collector]

cricket bat and phone cord.

[mattifikation]

Pepper spray!

Hmm.. worse than a chainsaw... a HACKSAW. :-p

[AN OLD SHOE]

nun-chucks (spelling?)

those are useless.....

brass knuckles...useless...

[mattifikation]

All those new rifles that are trying to be the next m16. The Sig 556, the FN Scar, the Robinson Arms XCR, and so-on. I'm sure they're great guns, but if you've gotta put your name on a 6 month waiting list to get one *now,* what the heck are you gonna do if a part breaks in a zed outbreak?

[Victor Clark]

I would say the most useless weapon would be a knife. While stabbing a living person would kill them if at the right location of the body, a knife to a zombie would be like stabbing a piece of dead meat. Literally.

[Darkness]

I would say the most useless weapon would be a knife. While stabbing a living person would kill them if at the right location of the body, a knife to a zombie would be like stabbing a piece of dead meat. Literally.

"I think that all depends on the size or the knife and if you know how to use it." ;-)


"I think a whip would be a useless weapon. No way I could kill a zombie with my whip." :)

[mattifikation]

Apparently you haven't played enough Castlevania :-p

[Shadowalker191]

"I think that all depends on the size or the knife and if you know how to use it." ;-)


"I think a whip would be a useless weapon. No way I could kill a zombie with my whip." :)


Now what kind of whip we talking about? Bull or a flogger? :P :)

[Darkness]

Apparently you haven't played enough Castlevania :-p
"No, but I have done a lot of real life play with real whips, and I know that even a twelve foot barbed bull whip will do you no good. Now, a barbed riding crop MIGHT be a different story. But I think that would be just as useless." :lol:


Now what kind of whip we talking about? Bull or a flogger? :P :)

"All your gonna do with a Flogger is slowly beat their flesh off, while it gnaws on your leg." :lol:

[mattifikation]

A lightsaber.

Here you are, caught in an alleyway with one way out, and that way is blocked by 100 zombies. They know you're there, and they're coming.

You pull out your lightsaber. "Shhhyooommmmmm!" You turn it on. You've practiced for this. This is where you will shine, you are going to make zombie stew out of these zeds.

The first zombie lounges. You skillfully move out of the way and send it stumbling into a bunch of garbage cans. Zombie number two makes his move, but you kick him backwards and swing your lightsaber... "Vwwummmm..."

You missed! Zombie one has crawled back out of the garbage, and zombie two has already recovered from your kick. Zombies three and four are closing fast..

"Vwwumm! Vwummm!!" You missed again, twice!

Wait a minute! Something isn't right! You trained for this. You know what you're doing, and these are zombies, they don't even know how to dodge!

"Arrrrghhh!!" You cry out! You've been bitten! The zombie horde is closing in, all hundred of them now. You suddenly realize that you won't even get to come back as a zombie! You're just going to be completely devoured by the living dead!

How could this be? What went wrong? And then, it hits you. Your last thought. Your fatal mistake. Unlike zombies....

.... There's no such thing as lightsabers!!!

OH SNAP!

[fester_hicks]

weapon i dont wanna have...

a replica sword...

19.99 katana that breaks in the air...

BAD MOJO

[Onslaught]

weapon i dont wanna have...

a replica sword...

19.99 katana that breaks in the air...

BAD MOJO

i'll second that!!

any sword you can buy in a mall or sporting goods store.

any "katana" or similar sword that you can buy for less than $350.
on second thought any katana at all. the reasons are numerous.

any blade thinner than 3/16".

any blade designed for clearing brush.
i don't care if you saw it cut through a branch the size of a silver dollar in one swing. just because it can be used as a weapon once or twice does not make it a weapon.

any bat with a hole in it for any reason.
go ahead, sink nails into your louisville slugger. it will break. and before it breaks, it will get stuck in a skull.

any aluminum bat.
it will dent. once it dents it will do one of two things: fold or crack. either one and you're out a weapon.

to anyone considering the chainsaw, i urge you to perform this simple test:

go out into your front yard and cut into a roast with a chainsaw. now look at the chainsaw, your clothes, and all of your neighbors (who are now looking at you). the neighbors represent all of the zombies that would have heard you and the meat and juice covering your clothing represents zombie slurry that you are now covered in.

any blade that when bent stays bent.

most blunt objects.
there's a reason we don't just use hammers hammers to chop wood.
it's basic physics folks. more surface area = more force to do the same work. have you ever walked through snow in sneakers? have you ever walked across snow in snowshoes? your weight is the force, the snow is the resistance. by dividing your weight across a larger surface area, you lessen your impact on the snow. now figure that the sweet spot on a bat is about 1 square inch. all of the force you generate is divided by that one square inch. anybody want to guess the square inches on the sweet spot of a blade? let's say it's something like .01.

so lets say that you swing with about 60 lbs (lets just say).
60 lbs /1sq"= 60psi.
60lbs /.01sq"= 6000psi
remember psi = lbs per square inch. decrease square inches while maintaining the lbs and you get more force.

some will say that blades create an increased infection risk due to zombie blood. not at all. zombies blood is thick and coagulated. it will not splatter like an evil dead movie when hacked into with a blade. (maybe a chansaw though).

any type of shear or scissors.
really folks? this isn't clocktower, and clocktower was lame anyway. if you're strong enough to decapitate a zombie with shears, you don't need the shears. just tear their heads off with your hands.

anything that will take multiple hits to incapacitate a single zombie.
if you are in a situation where you need to use a close combat melee weapon to kill a zombie you are in pretty bad shape or trying to be stealthy. in either scenario, you don't want to have to sit there and whack on this thing's head for any period of time. one hit. one re-kill. anything more will get you bitten by the next zombie or draw the attention of more.

[Behemoth]

Would a stun gun work on a zombie? If not they get my vote.

[Shadowalker191]

Any type of Airsoft or Paintball gear, now dont get me wrong, popping zed's in the face with a few paintballs and watching them stagger around blinded would be fun as hell. (Makes note to add my Paintball Marker to my pile of gear to bring.)

[Dagnammit]

A stack of LPs. Oh, and a mousetrap. :lol:

[Augustus Desius]

"Snakes on a plane"

That movie only harms the living.

[detpat]

chautchaut

[Faran Brigo]

Sledgehammer: Relatively easy to find, won't break down, and will definitely crack skulls, the sledgehammer seems like a good anti-zombie weapon if you're strong enough to wield one effectively.

Of course, that's not really many of us. Even if you can, I'm guessing it will be very hard to have the endurance to swing it around for more than a few dozen times with any efectiveness, consider also that while walls are still, zombies aren't and tracking the target will make this extra difficult. Add the inertia of a moving 20-40 pound hammerhead and tell me how easy this game of whack-a-zed really is. You can get better performance with less weight and an easier swing with a fire axe.

The veredict IMHO: Sorry, but it's NOT hammer time.

The redemption: Sledgehammers might not make the best weapon, but they just might be very useful as a big, heavy "master key", a trait shared to a lesser extent by the fire axe.

[Darkness]

"Ummm... The topic in this thread is what kind of weapon would be USELESS." ;-)

[mattifikation]

I think stun guns would actually work on a zombie, but only for as long as you were actually shocking them. Unlike people, they wouldn't have to cope with the after-effects though.

I've been shocked with stun guns. It's not the pain that gets you, it's the fact that your body just stops doing what your brain tells it to. Because of this, a stun gun might be perfect for getting one zombie to release its hold on you.

In Land of the Dead, electric fences work on zombies also. So electricity does affect them, at least in some versions. So while it wouldn't be my first choice for a weapon, I wouldn't count it as one of those things you absolutely don't want either.

Does anyone else think that a full-auto machine gun would be a bad thing to have? Those things are big, bulky, inaccurate, and gobble up priceless ammunition. Select-fire weapons might be useful for the occasional still-living enemy, but if a weapon is full auto only I'd only take it as a last resort.

[Faran Brigo]

"Ummm... The topic in this thread is what kind of weapon would be USELESS." ;-)

Actually the idea behind the thread was something that might sound good but should not actually be used as a weapon. I mentioned that there's other uses for fire or chainsaws as well, and the DE is a bad gun but it's not "useless" by any extent. I just couldn't figure out a way to put it simply in few words. :)

[fester_hicks]

FULL AUTO would be alright if you didn't need to pick and choose your shots... Like on the Mall or Andys store in the new DOTD, I would have taken one, hell ya I would have taken one... when in doubt, just lean slighty over the edge, with a backup rope snuggly attached to your body and open up on the Zeds directly underneath you. It would be wholesale carnage.



Does anyone else think that a full-auto machine gun would be a bad thing to have? Those things are big, bulky, inaccurate, and gobble up priceless ammunition. Select-fire weapons might be useful for the occasional still-living enemy, but if a weapon is full auto only I'd only take it as a last resort.

Oh yeah...useless... a broken beer bottle.

[detpat]

FA's aren't always inaccurate if you are a skilled gunner. they aren't designed to be marksman rifles though.

I would rather have a select fire rifle like an M16A2 or M4 or such because ammo would be a concern.. Even a FA can be used to fire just one or two shots [depending on the weapon] by a skilled operator. a belt fed weapon, while being desirable, would not be the optimum single person arm.

[Augustus Desius]

chautchaut

What's a chautchaut? Sounds like a primitive eating tool.

[detpat]

the worst light machinegun ever made. it was issued to the French and US armies in WWI. we got it for political reasons as the US Army had the bar in inventory by then.

I was the poorest designed and made arm ever. the units were made by hand and many of the parts didn't interchange. there were several parts of the gun that could be utilized for making a field expedient still.

[Crombie]

I know I would never be caught toting around a .22 rimfire, that's for sure.

[fester_hicks]

why? whats wrong with .22 rimfires?

I have killed LARGE game with a .22, small game with a .22 and hitmen have been using .22's for years... not to mention you can carry a trashload of ammo in small places and the ammo is in about every mom & po, med-large sized stores in America

[mattifikation]

A coworker of mine has a friend whose uncle tried and failed twice to kill himself with a .22lr to the head.

Twice. That's two separate times, at point blank range, to the head. The first time he didn't even lose consciousness. Apparently he changed his mind temporarily, because he then drove himself to the hospital.

His third attempt was successful because he finally got smart and used a bigger gun.

[vortec1]

"I think that all depends on the size or the knife and if you know how to use it." ;-)


"I think a whip would be a useless weapon. No way I could kill a zombie with my whip." :)

maybe you could,just be extra hard/mean

[john154]

A coworker of mine has a friend whose uncle tried and failed twice to kill himself with a .22lr to the head.

Twice. That's two separate times, at point blank range, to the head. The first time he didn't even lose consciousness. Apparently he changed his mind temporarily, because he then drove himself to the hospital.

His third attempt was successful because he finally got smart and used a bigger gun.

+1 for not bringing .22LR I've got decent hits on rabbits b4 and not put them down. 100 meters effective isn't gonna give you that reach out and touch somebody ability.

.50 Ma Deuce or Anti-Material Rifles would probably be best passed up if your on the run. Against people or in the defensive they're priceless but when your a refugee you can't afford that much weight and the round is too powerful to use against soft targets anyhow.

[fester_hicks]

Hate to say it then but your friends Uncle was a moron:loon:. I guarentee if I can put a .22 to anyones head and kill them. It's all about knowing where to put the gun.

And if you can't kill a rabbit with a .22, give up with guns.

I have killed Mule Deer with a .22, good grief... :x

A coworker of mine has a friend whose uncle tried and failed twice to kill himself with a .22lr to the head.

Twice. That's two separate times, at point blank range, to the head. The first time he didn't even lose consciousness. Apparently he changed his mind temporarily, because he then drove himself to the hospital.

His third attempt was successful because he finally got smart and used a bigger gun.

[detpat]

I've shot rabbits with a 22 and didn't kill them too, poor shot placement on my part, shot went through without hitting anything vital. I've also shot and missed and killed the rabbit with chunks of frozen dirt that penetrated the rabbit and when thawed left a glob of bloody dirt. I also shot at a rabbit and missed it closely and had it pass out from fear, it later woke up in the game pocket of my coat and i almost shot myself in fear. that damn rabbit caused me to dematerialize and rematerialized outside the coat about 10 yards away. i had to check my pants that day!!

[mattifikation]

Yeah, obviously it's all about shot placement. You think you're going to have that kind of shot placement when you're being chased by the undead? Dream on!

It's bad enough that you need a head shot to take down a zombie. You're going to make it worse by limiting yourself even further to, "Well, I need a shot between this part and that part of the head at no more than such and such a range."

But hey, if shooting over and over again trying to score the perfect shot is your thing, go for it! The more people are out there grabbing up the 22lr, the more useful ammunition there is left for the rest of us.

[detpat]

Nope, it all changes when the shit hits the fan. But as for myself....I've been shot at and both missed and hit. years as a soldier and much of the remainder as a cop will pretty much give you a hint as to how yo react when it's real.


Shot placement is ALWAYS vital.

[mil-collector]

worst weapons....


hair spray and a lighter
plastic handled broom
5-gallon bucket of tar
hacksaw
pliers
hubcap frisbee
the Bible or other similarly large book
CD's as throwing stars
rolled up towel
lightbulbs

:)

[RogueAI]

worst weapons....


hair spray and a lighter
plastic handled broom
5-gallon bucket of tar
hacksaw
pliers
hubcap frisbee
the Bible or other similarly large book
CD's as throwing stars
rolled up towel
lightbulbs

:)

And Cat Catapult. [Insert funny picture I forgot to make/find before posting]

[kai055]

i think from watchin mythbusters that the m1 grand would be pretty powerful, only 8 shots but...

[Darkness]

i think from watchin mythbusters that the m1 grand would be pretty powerful, only 8 shots but...

"This is a thread about weapons you DON'T want, not for weapons that you DO want."

[Hitman]

throwing stars , road flairs , most sporting goods items (bats ,hockey sticks pool sticks , etc) , bar of soap in a sock , shotguns with bird shot , match locks , darts.

[mattifikation]

Grandma.

Grandma makes a terrible weapon for use against zombies.

Now I'll conceive that Grandma is great for accomplishing a LOT of other things. Grandma can make quilts and sweaters, for example - replacing today's textiles and such. Grandma can cook just about anything from scratch, which expands your food resources exponentially. And of course, Grandma knows all the good home remedies for when you get sick.

I'll also admit that Grandma is great for something else. If you need to retreat from your location because the zombies just have you too far outnumbered, Grandma - once given a stab wound in the foot - can suddenly become the most important person in your team. As you make your escape, there's nobody better than crippled Grandma to keep the zeds off your trail long enough to get a good head start.

But when it comes time to defend yourself from the oncoming zombie hoards, Grandma makes a very, very lousy weapon. Studies prove consistently that taking a Grandma bash to the face will not result in the brain damage needed to stop anything. Except of course the Grandma you used to do the bashing. She'll probably stop working real quick.

[Cortexx]

A blowgun would be a big no no along with stun gun.

[Augustus Desius]

Grandma.

Grandma makes a terrible weapon for use against zombies.

Now I'll conceive that Grandma is great for accomplishing a LOT of other things. Grandma can make quilts and sweaters, for example - replacing today's textiles and such. Grandma can cook just about anything from scratch, which expands your food resources exponentially. And of course, Grandma knows all the good home remedies for when you get sick.

I'll also admit that Grandma is great for something else. If you need to retreat from your location because the zombies just have you too far outnumbered, Grandma - once given a stab wound in the foot - can suddenly become the most important person in your team. As you make your escape, there's nobody better than crippled Grandma to keep the zeds off your trail long enough to get a good head start.

But when it comes time to defend yourself from the oncoming zombie hoards, Grandma makes a very, very lousy weapon. Studies prove consistently that taking a Grandma bash to the face will not result in the brain damage needed to stop anything. Except of course the Grandma you used to do the bashing. She'll probably stop working real quick.

Awesome! :lol:

[Homelite]

i have to dissagree on the chain saw man i own like four and only because they are homelite Xl's like in army of darkness.

[Homelite]

[ i foun a game yall need to try http://www.deadawaken.com/?gclid=CL6ImbnhmY8CFRqwOAodzzVdLQ it is pretty good.




QUOTE=Faran Brigo;352943]We have tons of threads about the "best" weapon, I think at least 3 or 5 talking about the gun you'd want to have, but what about weapons you're better off without?

Don't get me wrong, you use what you have, and this is all relative, but still, I figured it would be interesting to visit the other pantheon, the one of the crap you're better off ditching or ignoring unless there's absolutely nothing better at hand. That said, here's my 2 cents, and I'll start with common newbie choices:

Chainsaw: Mean, menacing, and it's got sharp, pointy teeth, the chainsaw looks like an attractive first choice if you want to take off some limbs. Everybody loves them...

Until you actually carry one around for hours on foot, just ask any lumberjack or professional landscaper. Noisy, bulky, and requiring a steady flow of petrol, the chainsaw is probably as much of a threat (if not more) to your own survival than to the zombies, thanks to the difficulty of properly controlling that kind of blade and using it on a moving target incapable of feeling pain or fear trying to bite you. You need to sever the zombie's head, and you can only take one target at a time, and you'd dispatch them faster with a hammer or axe to boot.

The veredict IMHO: Best left to its original function, cutting wood.

Desert Eagle (excluding baby eagle models): Large, high profile, shinny, large, powerful, intimidating and did I say large? Desert eagles to date have to find a market other than their usual niche; hollywood, colector's guns or gun aficionados that want to have a pistol that can bring down a bear, and for good reason.

The latest production model is about as heavy as some submachineguns without the round capacity, auto fire, or the inherent greater ease of use of a shoulder weapon (over a pistol that is) and of course it's not as accurate. It's also unreliable, clumsy unless you have big hands, and the recoil is very problematic.

The veredict IMHO: This eagle doesn't fly, ditch it as soon as you find a smaller (9mm/.45/.40 pistols) or larger (smg, assault/semiauto rifle) firearm.

Flame weapons: Burn baby burn! fire has been used as a weapon since ancient times, and certainly zombies are flammable. Petrol will probably be widely available (or more so than ammo) until reserves go bad, and styrofoam makes a decent, abundant thickener. You could even take out multiple zombies with one "shot", a perk few other weapons share with man's oldest non canine friend.

Unfortunately it's also one of man's oldest enemies. Weather and battlefield conditions might make you fry along with (or instead of) the rotten ghouls. Fire does not kill instantly either, and there's a good chance of trading hungry moving corpses for hungry moving corpses on fire, not a good deal by any extent of the term. You might end up destroying valuable shelter or supplies as well.

The veredict IMHO: Out of special applications where it shines (body disposal, clearing ground/buildings, anti-marauder terror weapon), fire belongs on your stove, not your holster.

Improvised weapons: Use your creativity! duct tape and icepicks, broomhandles, golf clubs, if you can lift it, it's a weapon!

...Of course just because you can hit something with it, it doesn't mean it will be effective. In some cases, you're better off running than trying to kill a zed with golf clubs.

The veredict IMHO: Avoid if you're not McGyver. If you are, then why the hell haven't you solved the undead rising then? need WD40 and duct tape!?[/QUOTE]

[Hitman]

i have to dissagree on the chain saw man i own like four and only because they are homelite Xl's like in army of darkness.

ever use one on a zombie? this guy has (well not a zombie) and he said that on a dead body they suck. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBSDiCu4Bb8

[Umbrela]

We have tons of threads about the "best" weapon, I think at least 3 or 5 talking about the gun you'd want to have, but what about weapons you're better off without?

Don't get me wrong, you use what you have, and this is all relative, but still, I figured it would be interesting to visit the other pantheon, the one of the crap you're better off ditching or ignoring unless there's absolutely nothing better at hand. That said, here's my 2 cents, and I'll start with common newbie choices:

Chainsaw: Mean, menacing, and it's got sharp, pointy teeth, the chainsaw looks like an attractive first choice if you want to take off some limbs. Everybody loves them...

Until you actually carry one around for hours on foot, just ask any lumberjack or professional landscaper. Noisy, bulky, and requiring a steady flow of petrol, the chainsaw is probably as much of a threat (if not more) to your own survival than to the zombies, thanks to the difficulty of properly controlling that kind of blade and using it on a moving target incapable of feeling pain or fear trying to bite you. You need to sever the zombie's head, and you can only take one target at a time, and you'd dispatch them faster with a hammer or axe to boot.

The veredict IMHO: Best left to its original function, cutting wood.

Desert Eagle (excluding baby eagle models): Large, high profile, shinny, large, powerful, intimidating and did I say large? Desert eagles to date have to find a market other than their usual niche; hollywood, colector's guns or gun aficionados that want to have a pistol that can bring down a bear, and for good reason.

The latest production model is about as heavy as some submachineguns without the round capacity, auto fire, or the inherent greater ease of use of a shoulder weapon (over a pistol that is) and of course it's not as accurate. It's also unreliable, clumsy unless you have big hands, and the recoil is very problematic.

The veredict IMHO: This eagle doesn't fly, ditch it as soon as you find a smaller (9mm/.45/.40 pistols) or larger (smg, assault/semiauto rifle) firearm.

Flame weapons: Burn baby burn! fire has been used as a weapon since ancient times, and certainly zombies are flammable. Petrol will probably be widely available (or more so than ammo) until reserves go bad, and styrofoam makes a decent, abundant thickener. You could even take out multiple zombies with one "shot", a perk few other weapons share with man's oldest non canine friend.

Unfortunately it's also one of man's oldest enemies. Weather and battlefield conditions might make you fry along with (or instead of) the rotten ghouls. Fire does not kill instantly either, and there's a good chance of trading hungry moving corpses for hungry moving corpses on fire, not a good deal by any extent of the term. You might end up destroying valuable shelter or supplies as well.

The veredict IMHO: Out of special applications where it shines (body disposal, clearing ground/buildings, anti-marauder terror weapon), fire belongs on your stove, not your holster.

Improvised weapons: Use your creativity! duct tape and icepicks, broomhandles, golf clubs, if you can lift it, it's a weapon!

...Of course just because you can hit something with it, it doesn't mean it will be effective. In some cases, you're better off running than trying to kill a zed with golf clubs.

The veredict IMHO: Avoid if you're not McGyver. If you are, then why the hell haven't you solved the undead rising then? need WD40 and duct tape!?

Most of this should be common sense, really.

[Jimmy]

The small serrated edge on a scotch tape despenser.

[mattifikation]

One of the non-serrated edges of the same dispenser. :-p

[Iron Knuckles]

Id have to say a useless weapon would be improvised explosives. If your trying to destroy the brain I wouldn't want to rely on them.

[DarthJoe8]

Id have to say a useless weapon would be improvised explosives. If your trying to destroy the brain I wouldn't want to rely on them.


I think explosives of any type would not be worth the risk, unless your using them to create a barrier or something, but to kill Zeds......:loon:

[martenbroadcloak]

Mouthguards. not for you, for them. they bare their teeth to bite you and stick it in, instantly non-threatening.
or if you don't like that one try taffy, fudge or warm peanut butter, all in sticky wads that stick to your hands. so you don't drop them.

[Faran Brigo]

Ok, once again, it's about weapons you'd rather NOT have, or more specifically, weapons that sound like a good idea but actually aren't, which is why I started with the chainsaw, the .50 AE pistol and flame weapons. It's pretty obvious you don't want to have a deodorant bar or a hellfire missile as a personal weapon.

[mattifikation]

It's pretty obvious that you don't know me at all then. I would LOVE to have a hellfire missile as a weapon (or fishing apparatus) and since there's some debate about the ability of a zombie to smell human flesh I don't think the deodorant would hurt either...

But anyways...

Did anyone say sledge hammer yet? I've heard people say before that they think one would be great against a zombie. But, therein lies the problem. They'd be great against *A* zombie - One. Maybe a small group if you were really tough.

But you couldn't run cross-country with one. You couldn't jump from rooftop to rooftop with that much extra weight. You couldn't even pack it away neatly to stop it from holding up on things. And forget trying to use it in a tight hallway!

And that's not even mentioning how quickly you'd get tired flailing the thing around.

Sledge hammers: Avoid if possible.
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I like this thread. Somebody should start a thread titled "Shelters 102: The places you DON'T want to go." Base it off the same premise as this thread: Talk about shelters people often THINK would be a good idea, but actually are not. Somebody should make it who isn't me, because I'm lazy.

[DemonChild]

I'd say Garden Gnome. j/k

A M60 :)

[jim96sc2]

It's pretty obvious that you don't know me at all then. I would LOVE to have a hellfire missile as a weapon (or fishing apparatus) and since there's some debate about the ability of a zombie to smell human flesh I don't think the deodorant would hurt either...

But anyways...

Did anyone say sledge hammer yet? I've heard people say before that they think one would be great against a zombie. But, therein lies the problem. They'd be great against *A* zombie - One. Maybe a small group if you were really tough.

But you couldn't run cross-country with one. You couldn't jump from rooftop to rooftop with that much extra weight. You couldn't even pack it away neatly to stop it from holding up on things. And forget trying to use it in a tight hallway!

And that's not even mentioning how quickly you'd get tired flailing the thing around.

Sledge hammers: Avoid if possible.
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I like this thread. Somebody should start a thread titled "Shelters 102: The places you DON'T want to go." Base it off the same premise as this thread: Talk about shelters people often THINK would be a good idea, but actually are not. Somebody should make it who isn't me, because I'm lazy.

Are we talking a 3/5/10/15/20lbs sledge? HD has 5lb sledges on standard size composite axe shafts that would be more then adequate. Better then some cheap piece of shapened spring steel machete everyone raves about.

[Faran Brigo]

Sledgehammer: Relatively easy to find, won't break down, and will definitely crack skulls, the sledgehammer seems like a good anti-zombie weapon if you're strong enough to wield one effectively.

Of course, that's not really many of us. Even if you can, I'm guessing it will be very hard to have the endurance to swing it around for more than a few dozen times with any efectiveness, consider also that while walls are still, zombies aren't and tracking the target will make this extra difficult. Add the inertia of a moving 20-40 pound hammerhead and tell me how easy this game of whack-a-zed really is. You can get better performance with less weight and an easier swing with a fire axe.

The veredict IMHO: Sorry, but it's NOT hammer time.

The redemption: Sledgehammers might not make the best weapon, but they just might be very useful as a big, heavy "master key", a trait shared to a lesser extent by the fire axe.

Yeah, already brought up sledgehammer a couple of pages ago. Even the lightest sledge has the huge inconvenience of being a blunt weapon, which means they're slow, tiring and not that effective. At least, I know trying to bust a skull with a blunt object is really, really hard. Not a human skull mind you, it was a pork's head but nevertheless.

The shelter thread's not a bad idea, I like

[jim96sc2]

Yeah, already brought up sledgehammer a couple of pages ago. Even the lightest sledge has the huge inconvenience of being a blunt weapon, which means they're slow, tiring and not that effective. At least, I know trying to bust a skull with a blunt object is really, really hard. Not a human skull mind you, it was a pork's head but nevertheless.

The shelter thread's not a bad idea, I like

I again have to disagree. No edge to worry about, definitive kills, and utility are all trade offs for the weight issue IMHO. Blunt objects are full of win when it comes to skull bashing zombies.

[mattifikation]

A five pound sledge becomes a 20 pound sledge if you swing it with enough speed to generate 4 g's of centrifugal force. In addition, lifting weight over time requires significantly more energy than lifting weight a set number of repetitions.

Ever chop wood? It's not light work!

[jim96sc2]

A five pound sledge becomes a 20 pound sledge if you swing it with enough speed to generate 4 g's of centrifugal force. In addition, lifting weight over time requires significantly more energy than lifting weight a set number of repetitions.

Ever chop wood? It's not light work!

So does a 5 lb gun, sword, or stick. I'm not understanding your point. All I'm pointing out is that people are advocating swords and machetes which will probably have little to no effect. A heavy broadsword/longsword is roughtly the same weight and energy, only you'll need a bit more skill swinging it and the utility options are limited. A sledge is a tool and a weapon. Sure, like anything else it requires a bit of physical strenght, but the uses and practicality of the weapon more then make up for it.

[mattifikation]

You don't swing a five pound gun on the end of a stick. You point it at something and pull a small trigger. Different physics apply.

You don't even put a five pound sword on the end of a stick. Physics affect the weight differently.

[Faran Brigo]

So does a 5 lb gun, sword, or stick. I'm not understanding your point. All I'm pointing out is that people are advocating swords and machetes which will probably have little to no effect. A heavy broadsword/longsword is roughtly the same weight and energy, only you'll need a bit more skill swinging it and the utility options are limited. A sledge is a tool and a weapon. Sure, like anything else it requires a bit of physical strenght, but the uses and practicality of the weapon more then make up for it.

Uh... you don't swing a gun around.

A 10lb broadsword applies less force than a 10lb hammer, but does so over a smaller area. 20lb of pressure over a few square inches do less damage than say, 15lb over a fraction of an inch. In layman's terms it's the reason why you chop trees with axes instead of hitting them with a hammer until they crack.

As for the skill, it takes MORE skill, not to mention more strenght to swing around a sledgehammer than a sword effectively. Give a sword to any person strong enough to lift one and he or she can swing it around, not gracefully but zombies don't parry. If you do that with a sledgehammer, most of us will lift it and bring it down on the target but can't swing it properly because the weight makes it harder to recover from a failed strike. Not accurately either but the sledgehammer's got the same problem, worsened by the fact that it takes quite a bit of strenght to stop or change directions midswing, not so with a sword.

The machete deserves its own review, but yes I have my doubts about the usefulness of it as well.

[Umbrela]

A sledgehammer seems a horrible idea altogether. It's weight makes it nearly impossible to wield effectively against a moving target, and it''s size makes it completely impossible to do so in the enclosed settings that would be next to unavoidable in the event of a large-scale outbreak.

[Dave Of The Dead]

I have two replica katana swords that I bought not too long ago. They are made of 440 steel, and I sharpened them to a razor edge. But every time I hit something with them that gives me the least bit of resistance, the blade actually bends at the handle until it is close to a 45 degree angle from its original position. Now THAT is something that I wouldn't want during the zombie apocalypse!

[Umbrela]

Replica weapons are obvious bad picks.

[bandits1]

Replica weapons are obvious bad picks.
Agreed, but I'd bet very few people have a traditionally forged nihonto...and even fewer people have been taught how to properly use one.

99.999% of survivors are going to have to make do with the cheap-ass, mail-order $19.99 replica-katana that came with the two free shuriken.

[Faran Brigo]

You cannot make do with a katana replica, it's completely useless as a weapon, you're better off taking nothing at all so you can run faster and for a longer time.

[bandits1]

You cannot make do with a katana replica, it's completely useless as a weapon, you're better off taking nothing at all so you can run faster and for a longer time.
While it's not even close to being a great choice, I wouldn't say it's 100% percent "useless". If given the choice between carrying a cheap, but sharpened, katana or nothing at all - I'd take the crappy sword and use it until it broke.


...then I'd resort to the "running faster and for a longer time" part.

[Z0mb1eSlay3r]

I dont know any good weapons, but i do know the worst one,hand granades, hey i know they are awesome, but they really dont have such a big range, a bad throw can kill you, AND WEAPON STORES ARNET SUPPLING TERROISTS WIT GRANADES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

I have extreme training from being addicted to TheLastStand2 on armorgames.com (best zombie game ever)

[Dave Of The Dead]

I think having a cheap ass replica sword is about the equivalent to having a kitchen knife with more chopping power. What people don't realize, is that they s think that swords are big heavy pieces of steel that will weigh you down. The truth is, is that a normal sword or katana will weigh only about 2 lbs or 3 lbs including sheath. They are lighter than a wood baseball bat and even easier to swing. If it is all you have for the moment, I would suggesting using one for short term until you can get your hands on something more reliable.

[JakAttak]

ha-ha replica weapons. drop that shit and run if your legs are broken and you want to make a glorious last stand and you can chose between a replica katana and a rock take the rock

[homelitexl]

you have to know how to use a chainsaw like me and that and a shotgun 16 gauge all i need to survive

[detpat]

keep in mind that most replicas are simply sword shaped pieces of pot metal. real swords can be had, but if yo are gonna spend that kind of money on a weapon for a shtf episode then buy a firearm and ammo/training.

BTW gaming is NOT training for anything but more gaming. gaming provides no real life skills!

[DarthJoe8]

BTW gaming is NOT training for anything but more gaming. gaming provides no real life skills!

Doesn't the military use "war games" as practice for real world events. That's what training is right? Pilots use simulators and Soldiers use laser tag. :think:

:drinking:

[mattifikation]

He meant video games. And I've read that the military has toyed around with using video games to teach certain aspects of combat, such as teamwork, communication, tactics, etc.... in other words, the brainy aspects of war.

[DarthJoe8]

I just watched on the news the other day where the army was letting civilians use a simulator as a recruiting tool. Your in a humvee with a rifle and "driving" through a hostile street shooting bad guys. Kinda like a duck hunt. :lol:

:drinking:

[detpat]

there is a difference between a simulation and a video game. is this guy learning to operate the technical aspects of an M1A2 tank or a fantasy vehicle? big difference. well designed combat simulations CAN teach certain aspects of equipment operation, but the only way to learn to move, communicate and close with and destroy the enemy is to go out into the field and do it.

There is a hell of a difference between MILES gear training and laser tag.

you should consider trying both.

[DarthJoe8]

Yeah, I missed the part about it being video game experience. :loon:

:drinking:

[homelitexl]

iwold want a sledge hammer and a wood axe or chainsaw

[detpat]

I'm gonna suggest that anything you need to pull start is gonna be a bad personal defense weapon! Particularly if it weighs as much as 2 rifles and is only effective at contact range......

[Bob]

A chainsaw and a sledge hammer?
Nasa could calculate your survival to a nano second.

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[DarthJoe8]

A chainsaw and a sledge hammer?
Nasa could calculate your survival to a nano second.

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That's pretty funny.......:lol:...........:drinking:

[mattifikation]

Wow. The gay zombie chainsaw wonder got one right... he posted about chainsaws and sledge hammers in the "weapons you don't want to have" thread. :-)

[Darkness]

"This thread is about weapons you DON'T want to get stuck with, homelitexl, please stay on topic. That goes for the rest of you too." :naughty:

[44hogleg]

I don't think I would want a Very Pistol (common name of this is a flare gun). At first it may seem like a decent idea, but they're really not a very high velocity weapon and would probably just bounce off in a random direction, and who knows how what kind of problems an out of control flare could cause for you.

[VideoJunkie]

Wow. The gay zombie chainsaw wonder got one right... he posted about chainsaws and sledge hammers in the "weapons you don't want to have" thread. :-)

OUCH!!! That was just cruel! Okay, funny as hell and absolutely correct, but cruel. I was taught not to laugh at any sort of cruel jokes, so I'm not gonna laugh...really...oh hell...:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:Damn! Oh, well. I tried!

[VideoJunkie]

I don't think I would want a Very Pistol (common name of this is a flare gun). At first it may seem like a decent idea, but they're really not a very high velocity weapon and would probably just bounce off in a random direction, and who knows how what kind of problems an out of control flare could cause for you.

You're right that a flare gun would be an awful weapon. But I bet there are times when it would be great to have. "Look! All the zombies are gathering at the refinery! Whatever shall we do?" :evil:

Back on topic...

For me any weapon that puts me in melee with zack is a bad idea. I like to keep a nice undead free zone around me. Say an area about the size of Texas! Failing that I'd prefer to engage at distance. People here talk about bats and blades of different types. Not for me! Give me an AK and Sig 9mm. Is that to much to ask? Oh, and throw in that flare gun. What the hell, I might just find that overrun refinery!

[50 cal]

weapon i dont wanna have...

a replica sword...

19.99 katana that breaks in the air...

BAD MOJO

Lesson here is don't buy the stainless steel pieces of junk.

[Necrowerx]

any blade designed for clearing brush.
i don't care if you saw it cut through a branch the size of a silver dollar in one swing. just because it can be used as a weapon once or twice does not make it a weapon.


I'll have to strongly disagree here - I take it you're talking about Machetes.
Machetes are and have been used as very effective weapons through history. The Machete is related to the Kukri, the Falcata, the Parang/Bolo, and the Kopesh, with minor differences. All are deadly in the right hands.
If it can cut through 2 inch solid wood, then bone and sinew aren't much of a challenge, I think.
More proof of how deadly Machetes are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide
Also, check out this page over at the Zombie Squad site:
http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=8066&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=24
One poster has some gruesome pictures to prove it, including a skull nearly cleaved in two, like this one (linked to from my own site)

http://phrets.com/pix/macheteskull.jpg


I'm not saying machetes are the best weapon, but IMO, they don't belong in this list.

[Necrowerx]

At the risk of starting a maelstrom here, what's the word on Glocks?

All of my inlaws are in law enforcement, and most also have military experience; they all hate Glocks with a passion. They swear they're junk.

I'm not that knowledgeable about specific firearms at this point, but are they a yay or nay? Same question goes for Hi-Point..?

[Bob]

First let me address Machetes.
I believe a Machete can be a formidable weapon hence I have several.
I would rather have a Machete than an icepick which I also have.
Would I rather have a Machete than an Axe?
It depends, for the living or dead yes, for chopping wood, no.
Would I rather have a Machete than a good knife?
It depends, will it be my only weapon?
I personally will have two knives, 1 folding and 1 fixed.
1 long blade such as a Machete at least one primary pistol and an assault rifle.
I will let someone else lug the M1A around.

Now as to the question of are Glocks good.
As VJ will attest I have some guns.
I like and carry Glocks.
They work every time.
I have had one choke on bad reloads that were given to me.
I still have several hundred of those reloads and am having to case gauge them all before using them. Other than that I have not been let down in thousands of rounds. I ran a thousand rounds through one without cleaning.
No problems what so ever.
Some people talk smack about Glocks because they hear other people do it and want to seem kool and knowledgeable. A truly knowledgeable person might say they don't care for the grip angle or the blocky appearance but they don't talk smack about them. Some people don't like the trigger they will say it's mushy or the trigger safety irritates their finger. I have no problem with the trigger it's not the glass break feel of a tuned 1911 but I find it ok.
It's hard to find fault with a tool that works. It's like finding fault with a hammer.

[hotlead]

A case of dynamite- dynamite has all the disadvantages of hand grenades and none of the offensive/defensive advantages. You need an external flame source, it's affected by moisture, blast area and direction are difficult to predict, no shrapnel is expelled, unless you tape nails and stuff around them. Overall an unreliable zombie killer. The only plus of dynamite is it's usefulness as an engineering explosive.

A belt fed Machinegun- they are generally too inaccurate for head-shot type zombies, unless you're a good gunner and can fire short 2-3 shot bursts into one head. They are heavy, and generally require a crew of at least three, the gunner, an asst. gunner, and an ammo bearer. They burn a lot of ammo, especially those that don't have an adjustable rate of fire. They are slow to get into action, even if you keep a short 30-50rd starter belt in it, you'll be hoping your crew is set up before the starter belt is used up, if you even have a crew.

The M2 .50BMG would just be silly:doh:

However, if rage infected folks are running around, either of these would be OK:scare:

[Krazymouse]

Flame thrower, Zombies would be fiery zombies chasing you around. Also, heavy, and good luck finding ammo for it

[Birdman44]

At the risk of starting a maelstrom here, what's the word on Glocks?


The glock 21 torture test- http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90

A few of my friends are in law enforcement and all they use are glocks, sub compact and full sized. I've shot both and they shoot fine, never jammed once. I guess this torture test speaks the truth, but then again once in a while :poo: happens.

As far as weapons to stay away from i would suggest revolvers. Sure if you can shoot them fast go ahead, but during ZPAW if you find one laying around stear clear of using it. Maybe pick it up for someone who needs a weapon, but the reload time without and speed loaders will be longer than an autoloading pistol.

[Nameless1]

I would say molotov cocktails would be a really bad weapon. Nothing like a flaming zombie to ruin your day. Imagine one of them walking into the place your trying to defend and setting it on fire, that would suck.

Wouldn't an Uzi also be a bad weapon, never fired one but I can't really see someone making many head shots with them.

[Noc]

Hmm about the uzi wouldn't be to good over distances and apparently they're very unreliable but up close its like impossible to miss just generally point and whatever it is has lots of holes in it, there are alot of other weapons i would prefer to the uzi but if i found one on the ground with a full clip i would pick it up lol




but back to the useless weapons i think gardening tools would be pretty useless pitchforks mattocks may look mean but i think you would get overun pretty quickly with anything more that 3 zombies

[mattifikation]

I thought Uzi's were reliable, but inaccurate and wasteful of ammunition. I could be wrong though.

[Noc]

"The Uzi has been criticized for its open-bolt design. Open bolt, blowback firearms tend to have reduced accuracy, because as the trigger is pulled, the bolt slams forward and hits the breech, interfering with the shooter's aim. Since the bolt is held to the rear when cocked, the receiver is more susceptible to contamination from sand and dirt ingress. The open bolt design does expose the breech end of the barrel, and may improve cooling during periods of continuous fire.""


I think thats were we got our info from
cause it mentions the fact they jam but also they are inaccurate

[Hitman]

UZI's are very reliable , the top cover with the rachet can give you fits from time to but if need be it can just be removed (rachet) . the open bolt accuracy problem is way over stated. uzi's do very well in subgun matches against guns such as MP5's and other closed bolt subguns . the MAX-11's are doing awsome in subgun matches all over and they are open bolt (modified M11/9 's ) .the rate of fire is what makes a big differance for burst accuracy (full size UZI's are around 600rpm, micro's are 1600 and uncontrolable) . my M11/9 was set up for competion and is very accurate ,not sure if I could pull of the 100 yard head shots like I could with my MP5 but for the CQB role that a good 9mm subgun is made for zombies wouldn't stand a chance. most good subguns with a little parctice and a 600 or so RPM will do single shots with a quick trigger pull , then if need be just hold the trigger just a little longer for the stubborn targets.

[Hitman]

the Gyrojet is a gun that I wouldn't want for Z-day or any day I need a real gun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrojet

[kiltedninja]

Switchblades, knuckledusters, 2x4, jig saw, I could go on.

[Slayer]

As far as handguns go, I strongly prefer Revolvers, in particular Smith & Wesson for it's reputation. In any survival situation (in particular, zombies), reliability is key, if your weapon malfunctions, it could cost you your life. All weapons can malfunction, but I would have to say with a good Revolver, malfunctions are pretty rare.

[Birdman44]

The one weapon i can think of that i truly wouldn't want to have is the bow. I own one and am fairly competent with it. However the drawbacks to it are too numerous for me to consider taking it. With the fact that it may not even penetrate the skull of a zombie, it is heavy and awkward to hike around with, the arrows are large and heavy and inflict less penetration than bullets, arrows have to be made specifically for a bow, which means they are a lot harder to come by than some bullets, and more expensive. they are limited in range, take longer time to steady yourself to shoot, and have significant draw weights which would wear you out if you used them constantly. Don't get me wrong i love my bow, but i would not go near it during zday. For any of those good reasons to have one like shooting a rope or lighting a fire i probably would have another way of doing so that didn't take up my whole backpack, like maybe a lighter.

[EvilWeasel35]

A luger cos they always jam
A water pistol
A spud gun
:lol:

[Bob]

Captain Weasel

Is a spud gun the same thing as a tater cannon?

[mrlaughingman]

one word (spork)

[kiltedninja]

I think they're the same thing, a spud gun and tater cannon. They're both gun like, and they shoot potatoes. so they're probably the same thing. I want one.

A plastic sword would be another one.
another that MAY be a bad idea would be a Derringer. I say MAY because we're not sure on the word for .22lr rounds. Personally, I'd go with something bigger from the get go.

I wouldn't go with using my bow, just because like the .22lr, I'm not sure of it's piercing capabilities.

[Flesh Jester]

Drunken Boxing would be a useless martial art. You have to roll with the punches and shit, but zombies don't punch, they bite. Being drunk while fighting off a hoard of undead flesh eaters also wouldn't be a good idea (even thought it would be pretty fun). I'm putting this in there cus I'm considering martial arts a weapon, and I just really wanted to throw something into this post.


Desert Eagle (excluding baby eagle models): Large, high profile, shinny, large, powerful, intimidating and did I say large? Desert eagles to date have to find a market other than their usual niche; hollywood, colector's guns or gun aficionados that want to have a pistol that can bring down a bear, and for good reason.

The latest production model is about as heavy as some submachineguns without the round capacity, auto fire, or the inherent greater ease of use of a shoulder weapon (over a pistol that is) and of course it's not as accurate. It's also unreliable, clumsy unless you have big hands, and the recoil is very problematic.

The veredict IMHO: This eagle doesn't fly, ditch it as soon as you find a smaller (9mm/.45/.40 pistols) or larger (smg, assault/semiauto rifle) firearm.

If I can rock around a M249 around for months on end, then I'm pretty sure I could rock a deagle, and I would so rock a deagle for zombie punishment. :evil:

[EvilWeasel35]

Captain Weasel

Is a spud gun the same thing as a tater cannon?

Yes, it's the same thing. :)

Thought of some more too -

A child's catapult
A peashooter
:lol:

[mattifikation]

A child's catapult?

What about an actual catapult? Or a trebuchet? I would imagine they would be rather ineffective.

A weapon I would not want to have... hmm.

A jar of acid. I know it melted right through a zombie in Diary of the Dead, but truthfully, I don't think there's any acid that would actually melt the whole way through the skull and into the brain with any appreciable expediency.

[EvilWeasel35]

A child's catapult?

What about an actual catapult? Or a trebuchet? I would imagine they would be rather ineffective.

A weapon I would not want to have... hmm.

A jar of acid. I know it melted right through a zombie in Diary of the Dead, but truthfully, I don't think there's any acid that would actually melt the whole way through the skull and into the brain with any appreciable expediency.


I thought about that, but I have a professional ball-bearing catapult and they are quite vicious if you are accurate with them. Although, you're right, probably not that effective against a zombie attack.

You'd be more likely to have a jar of acid smashed and get it all over yourself, or spill it on yourself, so yes, not great!

[kiltedninja]

A golf club. An aluminium baseball bat. A Lacrosse stick. I got to hold a State Trooper's riot stick today, and while it might hurt, I doubt it would be good for a ZPAW, except for whacking people with.

[EvilWeasel35]

I got to hold a State Trooper's riot stick today, and while it might hurt, I doubt it would be good for a ZPAW, except for whacking people with.

OK, that's interesting... Did the state trooper hit you with the stick and then you stole it from him and ran away?:lol:

[Trumble0]

chautchaut

Hahaha. I was just watching a special on WWI and they said the Chauchat was liek the worst design ever... haha the cut outs in the mags to see ammo levels were prone to getting jammed with dirt. I second the Chauchat...

as well as offer up the double barrel shotgun... impractical for fighting legions of the undead... sorry Bruce Campbell. Ill stick with my Rem. 870.

[Trumble0]

Same question goes for Hi-Point..?

Hahaha... I recently shot a Hi-point pistol... while I had no problems with it... I just seriously doubt the abilities of a $130 semi-auto pistol. I mean i'll probably buy one as a fun gun... I use the term "whipping boy" whenever I want to shoot something but don't want to spend the time meticulously cleaning I buy a cheap gun instead of using my more expensive ones.

[mrlaughingman]

worst weapon i can think of. a loaf of bread

[Darkness]

"Anyone mention Water Pistol yet?" :lol:

[Krazymouse]

what about marshmellow gun?

[Birdman44]

What about an attack dog? Sure it scares the humans but all of them would probably have guns in ZPAW and zombies would keep walking with them hanging off their arm.

[Bob]

I thought about that, but I have a professional ball-bearing catapult and they are quite vicious if you are accurate with them.

?? Could you post a picture of that?
I am just not sure what you are referring to.

[kiltedninja]

OK, that's interesting... Did the state trooper hit you with the stick and then you stole it from him and ran away?:lol:

No...Hahaha, at my high school we have a Law Enforcement program, and our teacher brought in a state trooper come in. At the end of the class, he showed us his riot gear, I was the mannequin because I was about the same size as him, a little thinner maybe. Anywho, they're basically wooden sticks.

Now, back to topic. A morningstar would be a bad idea. Chakram would likely not be the best you could do.

Shuriken wouldn't be very effective for the most part, since they are, by design, used to slow the target down.

A Sledgehammer is a generally accepted as a bad idea.

[Pixel]

Would a stun gun work on a zombie? If not they get my vote.

I believe it would work because it would cause massive trauma to the brain which is the way to kill a zed...

I think a usless weapon to have would be a dumbell. Yes they are heavy and will do alot of damae but they are too heavy (Mine are 20kg plus so i wouldnt like swinging them around) and you will end up geting fatigued fast.

[Birdman44]

I believe it would work because it would cause massive trauma to the brain which is the way to kill a zed...

I think a usless weapon to have would be a dumbell. Yes they are heavy and will do alot of damae but they are too heavy (Mine are 20kg plus so i wouldnt like swinging them around) and you will end up geting fatigued fast.

The dumbells you are correct about, and i think your right that a taser would stop a zombie but not because of brain trauma, tasers aren't built to cause injury to the brain they are made to override the muscles in your body with an electrical current temporarily incapacitating you (correct me if im wrong). since zombies do use our human bodies (muscles) to move i think it would work.

[kiltedninja]

That's one of those things that will have to be tested. I'd recommend an X26 TAZER, they have some range, so if it doesn't work, then go with a good ol' bullet.

I think that dumbells would be a terrible weapon, unless you're dropping them en masse from a very high spot.

I don't think a weed whacker would be a useful thing at all.

[elzombito5678]

Soccer ball. Sorry Frank West, in real life you cannot kick a plastic ball (even if it has more force than footballs fired by pro field goal kickers in the NFL) into a crowd of zeds and produce 20+ kills. The GOOAAAALLLL is to kill zombies, not use them to practice your shooting...with balls.

Cricket mallet. As much as I loved the DOTD remake, I don't know WHY in god's name Jake Weber's char (who proved his smarts time and again later in the movie) traded a CROWBAR for a cricket mallet! The director Zack Snider and Producer Eric Numan (spelling?) who did the commentary audio were like, "Oh he makes a genious weapons choice, yea because it like breaks, breaks into a shorter sharper stick." And meanwhile I'm like, THATS WHY YOU DON"T WANT IT YOU IDIOTS!!! The crowbar is hella durable, functions well both as a blunt OR stabbing weapon, as well as all its peacetime functions. I know wood can stab through bone and flesh, but I highly doubt that thin piece of wood was capable of stabbing through all the layers of bone like showed in the scene, if anything it should have snapped (AGAIN!!!) halfway through the inside of the zombie's head.

But what the hell do I know right? I'm not a million dollar director lol.

[bandits1]

...Cricket mallet. As much as I loved the DOTD remake, I don't know WHY in god's name Jake Weber's char (who proved his smarts time and again later in the movie) traded a CROWBAR for a cricket mallet! The director Zack Snider and Producer Eric Numan (spelling?) who did the commentary audio were like, "Oh he makes a genious weapons choice, yea because it like breaks, breaks into a shorter sharper stick." And meanwhile I'm like, THATS WHY YOU DON"T WANT IT YOU IDIOTS!!! The crowbar is hella durable, functions well both as a blunt OR stabbing weapon, as well as all its peacetime functions. I know wood can stab through bone and flesh, but I highly doubt that thin piece of wood was capable of stabbing through all the layers of bone like showed in the scene, if anything it should have snapped (AGAIN!!!) halfway through the inside of the zombie's head.

But what the hell do I know right? I'm not a million dollar director lol.
I was thinking the exact same thing when I first watched the movie. I'd much rather have the crowbar.

[Chaos Nightbringer]

Cleaver. Sure, it'll do enough damage to kill the zombie if you hit somewhere vital, but then you have to pull it out.

If I may recomend a blades weapon, I'd suggest a pair of old-fashonied bayonets. They're very fast and could easily penetrate and come back out. And they're light, so you could last longer. Brass knuckles would do suffienct trauma to the head to disable a zombie. just make sure you aim for the jaw or forehead, and not the mouth.

[mattifikation]

This thread is about weapons you don't want, not ones that you recommend.

Can't anybody read?

[CAVU45]

This thread is about weapons you don't want, not ones that you recommend.

Can't anybody read?


It would appear not. And they make silly posts to boot. :roll:

[Hitman]

Cleaver. Sure, it'll do enough damage to kill the zombie if you hit somewhere vital, but then you have to pull it out.

If I may recomend a blades weapon, I'd suggest a pair of old-fashonied bayonets. They're very fast and could easily penetrate and come back out. And they're light, so you could last longer. Brass knuckles would do suffienct trauma to the head to disable a zombie. just make sure you aim for the jaw or forehead, and not the mouth.


matt , I think he did . the ones listed above would be near the bottom of my list for sure . brass knuckles LOL :doh:

[kiltedninja]

I'm wondering if a can opener would be a functional weapon. Like the old fashioned, pointy ones. I'm gonna say no.

A gardening spade would also be a bad idea I'm guessing.

A garrote(sp?)

[mattifikation]

Hahaha what? You can't choke a zombie? Nooo wayyyyy!

[mil-collector]

dental tools
keyring self defense spike
boxing gloves or fist tape
rectal thermometer
can of raid
stapler....
garrotte
roll of quarters in the fist
large stack of toilet paper

[Ball Tripper]

I don't know if anyone mentioned this but what about any sort of antique firearm. Knowing my luck when the dead rise up the only thing I'll be able to find and arm myself with will be like a civil war musket. That'd be a pretty bad one to have.

[Eaterofkittens]

Occasionally, someone will overhear a conversation I'm having about zombies and mention chainsaws and flamethrowers.
If chainsaws could be operated with a simple switch if they could shield against splatter, if they weren't noisy, if they weren't heavy and needy for fuel, I could almost want one.

Imagine one gliding through your decaying nemesis like a conductors baton. Up, down, left right...

But of course, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre lied to us.

The Flamethrower is also generally a poor choice as it makes the Biters ten times more dangerous UNLESS they ash instantly. Some Zombies don't burn slowly like candle wicks. Some disintegrate instantly like on Day of the Dead remake and Dead Alive.
Generally fast Zombies burn faster. This is probably less for any legitimate reason than as a deus ex machina.
But don't eliminate fire altogether.

I got a crowbar, as per Max Brooks suggestion but I got a Fatmax thinking bigger is better. It's a wrecking bar. I should have gotten a thinner one.
So I say- don't use a wrecking bar. Too heavy.

[homelitexl]

well i wouldn't want a bb gun thats like poking a hobo with a stick all it does is make them madder.

[Bob]

You the titanium crowbars have gotten really really hard to find.
Oh you can find any number of web sites that say they have them but when you call up to check to see if they are in stock forget it. The couple that claim to have them in stock are crazy expensive, least ways they were the last time I checked.

Anyone know of a good place to get one?

[EvilWeasel35]

A box of wooden toothpicks...
A rubber knife...
:)

[mattifikation]

Or just a rubber.

[homelitexl]

hey its trojan man lol, or a hedge trimmer and weed eater

[Dave Of The Dead]

hey its trojan man lol, or a hedge trimmer and weed eater

I actually saw a really crappy movie where someone was killed with a weed eater. I think it was Hard Rock Zombies or something like that... Had more to do with crazy midgets and Hitler than it did to do with zombies, but whatever.

[Jimmy]

HELLO EVERYONE, LONGTIME NO SEE!!! :evil:

[y2k survivor]

Ah Hi-point Carbine Zombies will just make fun of you and hurt your feelings. . . right before they eat your brains :zom1:

[kiltedninja]

A shank wouldn't be so good. A push dagger either. What of a bull whip?

A .25 caliber? A morningstar, an Atlatl, might actually be a good one, look it up if you don't know what it is, because I don't feel like explaining it.

Nunchaku, Tonfa, knuckledusters are debatable, guitar, Desert Eagle(Speaking of which, I know someone big enough to wield one well, good shot too)
A Carcano rifle? Fighting sticks...I'm out of stuff to put on this list for now.

[homelitexl]

I actually saw a really crappy movie where someone was killed with a weed eater. I think it was Hard Rock Zombies or something like that... Had more to do with crazy midgets and Hitler than it did to do with zombies, but whatever.

that was hard rock zombies i got it on dvd and that had a saw blade on it not a weed eater string.

[kiltedninja]

A saw blade would likely get jammed on something.

[mariomarioecw]

Despite what shaun of the dead says, a cricket bat.

[kiltedninja]

A golf club. Maybe a shovel, a folding metal chair.

Shaun of the dead struck me as more of a comedy than a zombie movie. They just threw the zombies in there because if they didn't they'd essentially have Hot Fuzz.

[mattifikation]

It was a zomedy.

[homelitexl]

the holey hand grenade from monty python

[kiltedninja]

I wonder how effective a light saber would be in combatting hordes of Zack?

For that matter, has anyone said anything about Shuriken and throwing knives? What of blowguns?

[Bob]

Light Saber Fu!

[homelitexl]

a plastic golf club

[Creeping Death]

a plastic golf club

A plastic fork! :drool:

Or even worse...... :scare:

A PLASTIC SPOON!!! :lol:

[mattifikation]

An air guitar.

[kiltedninja]

A poodle. A lamp, A Pidgeon launcher. A bullwhip. Chakram, A plastic Spork(I've seen metal ones that can do some damage).

[homelitexl]

a kilt, a rabid emu, john mccains sweat socks, a bb gun, an inflteable hammer, mc hammer, a rabi, and a hot wheel.

[SolanumSeeker]

i wouldnt use a .380 pistol because of its need to be damn near point blank and if you dry fire it(pull the trigger as fast as you can until the clip is gone) the barrle can crack real easy.

[kiltedninja]

a kilt, a rabid emu, john mccains sweat socks, a bb gun, an inflteable hammer, mc hammer, a rabi, and a hot wheel.

Ahh yes, zombies feel no fear, they don't understand the kilt.

Now when you say hot wheel, do you mean the little cars, or a flaming tire?

[homelitexl]

the little cars, but john mcains socks is pretty scary.

[kiltedninja]

Would hitler's bones count as weapons?

A pair of steel toed boots, they're not as effective as people think.

[bandits1]

I wonder how effective a light saber would be in combatting hordes of Zack?

For that matter, has anyone said anything about Shuriken and throwing knives? What of blowguns?
I think a lightsaber would be the perfect melee weapon. It cuts through just about anything, and it cauterizes the area that it cuts, thus limiting blood-splatter.

Shuriken/throwing knives/blowguns = all nearly useless.

[Militaris]

Even if you managed to find someone who is a expert at throwing a shuriken, I doubt it would penetrate far enough to damage the brain and that is with a exact eye shot.

Blow guns are designed just to puncture the skin to deliver poison so would not be effective on the undead.

Throwing knives are another weapon which would require a excellent degree of accuracy... it might just work if you manage to hit the zombie right in the eye.... Probably best to use it as a dagger.

But like others said I would not want any of them.


I reckon a rabid emu could be a good weapon, especially if it was trapped out with the zombies and not inside with the survivors... It would probably sprint around kicking the crap out of the undead in its insanity.

[mattifikation]

The eye is not a direct path to the brain. There's stuff back there.

Take a look at this video if you have a strong stomach:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1KD7G0W0tQ

You'll notice that despite having no eyeball, nor any of the bits of his head that would normally surround an eyeball, that man's brain is definitely not exposed in any way.

[kiltedninja]

I'd think that your best bet would be to hit the area around the occipital lobe, an area on the back of your head, would be the best spot to hit in the event of CQC with Zack. It's relatively hard, but not as hard as the rest of the skull, so you run a lesser risk of damaging your weapon than any other part of the head, save the temple maybe.

Anything that can pierce the occipital lobe, or the space just beneath it strikes good in my book.

So, before we get off topic, let's list a few that can't pierce the bone and cartilidge on the back of your head... a paint scraper probably couldn't (This is a harder game than you think). A piece of rebar, PVC pipe. A sharpened candy cane, most of the shanks used in prison might not be able to.

[homelitexl]

Would hitler's bones count as weapons?

A pair of steel toed boots, they're not as effective as people think.

yes but only if you make a deal with satan to make them come alive.

[F0rgivingS0rrow]

The weapon i don't want to ONLY have in a zed situation would be a toothbrush. I might as well clean them to undeath.

[hotlead]

i wouldnt use a .380 pistol because of its need to be damn near point blank and if you dry fire it(pull the trigger as fast as you can until the clip is gone) the barrle can crack real easy.

I think that has to do more with a cheap pistol than the cartridge, what knid of pistol was that ?

[kiltedninja]

I'd rather not have a FAMAS, mostly because it's not a gun I'm fond of.

[hotlead]

Besides, it's a fugly ass French rifle, you don't wanna get killed holding that, do you?

[detpat]

i have 2 MAS 49-56 rifles, is that good enough? they are actually great rifles and very accurate. not too pricey either.

[homelitexl]

yeah well is a electric chainsaw a bad weapon

[detpat]

not if you have the tacticool loooooong cord!

[brandenpwns]

a tazer would be utterly pointless.
and what about the mafia style way of killing.......PIANO WIRE :lol:
yes thats right lets sneek up on a hord of zeds and discreatly choke/slice/saw their heads of with wire!!!! wo could start a revolution!!! HURRAY!!!!:clap:

[hotlead]

i have 2 MAS 49-56 rifles, is that good enough? they are actually great rifles and very accurate. not too pricey either.

Let not your heart be troubled, I was talking about the FAMAS, I think MAS-49/56s are alright, I'd like one to go with my MAS-36.

[detpat]

i understand what you meant, i just like the 49-56 better. just love mine. got one in 7.5 and a .308 conversion [good one and not a crapshooter] and love the hell out of both of them. a truly underrated rifle.

[homelitexl]

join the 308. club its one of the best shooting rifles there is.

[kiltedninja]

join the 308. club its one of the best shooting rifles there is.

That's why the .308, 7.62mm, and whatnot have been the main bullet loaded into any gun that is worth shooting. The 5.56 is cool I guess, and it didn't get the name 'the poison bullet' for nothing I suppose, but still, the 7.62 is a damn good round, and I'd rather die holding my Lee Enfield than a French Crapstick.

I don't think a Garrote would be very useful. Or a rapier.

[detpat]

rapier would be very useful, but only if you know how to use it and actually know what a rapier is. my french crapstick is also in .308 and both are ballistically similar eough to use the same scope calibrations.

you should try a MAS 49-56 before you kick it.

[homelitexl]

dude nothhing the french make is worht using its french its a coward.
so ill stick to my autumn 308 browning till the zeds pry it from my severed dead fleshless hands.

[detpat]

you can do that. but the rifle i mentioned is an excellent arm and you would be doing yourself a disservice by not looking at it. you can get an outstanding battle rifle in a great caliber for a fraction of what the others in that class are going for and you would pass it up because you don't like the french? that's just foolish dude!

[homelitexl]

exactly i dont like the french they seem snooty and don't seem to like americans is why.

[detpat]

they did make a damn good rifle that you can get, along with mags and accessories, pretty damn cheap.

[homelitexl]

well i think i would prefer a ww2 mauser kar 98 to your little french gun

[Bad Zombie Night]

dude nothhing the french make is worht using its french its a coward.
so ill stick to my autumn 308 browning till the zeds pry it from my severed dead fleshless hands.

exactly i dont like the french they seem snooty and don't seem to like americans is why.

homelitexl,
You know ATZ's policy very well, so let's get off the Anti-French rhetoric right now. Take this one as an unofficial warning. Just be thankful I found this before Dead Kev did. He wouldn't have been as merciful as I. http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1&pictureid=1


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Secondly,
The last mention of the word "ZED" was about two dozen posts ago. Remember that the agreement on reopening the US&D forum last year was that ALL threads in this forum (weapons, tactics, or firearms, ect.) must be in reference to Zombies and how they will be used against them. You don't have to mention "ZED" or "Zombie" in every other line, or even in every post, but your reasoning must be directed toward that central theme. :shotg: :zom2:


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[detpat]

besides, i have a K98 and the 49/56 is the superior rifle.

[homelitexl]

fine yoou win but it aint that i hate the french its just everything ive bought thattt was made over there breaks easy and is over complicated and to hard to fix, and is that a ww2 k98 if it is would you sell it.

[mattifikation]

The French make excellent toast and fries. They invented a pretty damn good way to kiss a woman, too.

This is an on-topic post because I would not want to be armed with toast, fries, and kisses against the undead.

[detpat]

as long as yer not Belgian wafflin on the subject!

[kiltedninja]

honestly, I wouldn't want an MP5 in ZPAW, or any SMG for that matter.

The French did come up with one badass martial art though, try looking up Savate. They make good wine too.

Though I wouldn't want to be armed with savate or wine.

[Dave Of The Dead]

A Muzzle-Loader of any kind. A Cannon. Sling shot. Sling. A Bucket of bees.

[detpat]

a super soaker full of meat sauce.

[homelitexl]

The French make excellent toast and fries. They invented a pretty damn good way to kiss a woman, too.

This is an on-topic post because I would not want to be armed with toast, fries, and kisses against the undead.

hey you have a point maybe they aint all that bad but i wouldn't want to be up against a zed with fries either maybe a pogostick or a toy lightsaber

[kiltedninja]

I wouldn't want to be armed with an ASP, they're fun to break stuff with, but I'm not sure of it's capability to destroy a skull. Or any sort of baton at all, except maybe a Louisville Slugger. Good bats, one broke some of my ribs once.

Anyway, I wouldn't like to be armed with a sling either, unless I was throwing grenades with it. that would be fun.

[Bob]

I don't like the French Government, nor do I like the American Government, I think the political process has reversed in most countries. The cream used to rise to the top but now I think the cream is forced to the bottom and all we have at the top is rot.


The weapon I would least like to have is a computer.
In today's society a computer in the right hands can be a weapon beyond compare, well perhaps a thermonuclear device could be nearly as destructive. The American Military Cyber-Warriors are some bad ass dudes.
But when the power goes down and the Zed walk, I would rather have a claw hammer than a Cray Super Computer.

[homelitexl]

wow bob i think the same way. anyway on subject a package of saltine crakers.

[mattifikation]

Rocket launchers.

They're big, heavy, only good for one shot, and damn near impossible to find rockets for.

[Bob]

A tank that is out of gas.

[Noc]

A shank.

Way to risky getting that close, and hard to destroy somthing brain with a shiv.

[Bob]

An oyster shell knife.

[homelitexl]

a dildo...............

[FFG]

a dildo...............

If you have an experience where one of these was a weapon I am saddened and frightened.

[Noc]

Unless the dildo, was four foot long, and made of iron.:scare:

[Darkness]

"Okay, you guys tried to go there once, don't do it again. Thanks." ;-)

[Noc]

:lol:

Okay, weapons 102: Long nails, I imagine scratching zombies would be very effective.

[Bob]

NOC

What the hell is with you and scallops?

[Noc]

God hates them:shock:

[Bob]

No he does not.
He will eat most any kind of seafood.
He will even eat Cow Liver.
He loves Cow Liver.

Dog is God backwards.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3939/max024crop2919933.jpg

[Darkness]

"Okay guys, you have already been told to leave Religion out of the conversation. Now back to the Topic of the Thread, thank you." :naughty:

[homelitexl]

1 santa= satan
2 ive had an ex knock me out witho ne

[the_velociraptor]

Large caliber weapons in general.

Gee, I'm such a genius, aren't I?

In any case, their only use would be if the undead are steadily mutating, or if there are zombie animals.

[kiltedninja]

A Balisong or stiletto would probably not be a good weapon to have. Neither are known for being particularly tough.

[Hunk]

wellllllllll id like any weapon but one... a sickle, youd be better off with a 2X4

[the_velociraptor]

wellllllllll id like any weapon but one... a sickle, youd be better off with a 2X4

You're also better off with a baseball bat.

[homelitexl]

or a large dildo my ex knoked mt owt with one

[Donny Donowitz]

A Chihuahua... Yes they can be used as clubs, not much else though... :-(

[Ruby Snipa]

Shuriken, throwing knifes, hammers, paper airplanes, baseballs, footballs, silverware, CDs, bricks, Kuni, ect. Basically any weapon that you can easily throw will be ineffective against any zombie including the ones that are only heads in which case you could just kill it close up by beating it in the head with a brick. Cause if you can dodge a wrench, so can a zombie.

[Ruby Snipa]

Oh and the weapon I'd prefer to have would be my genuine Japanese made Katana that I got for $2,000 that I mailed in from Japan. The Japanese make high quality shit, have you seen the new Sony TVs. The katana was made for cutting straight through people in armor. They actually tested it on prisoners back during the feudal age of Japan.

[rogeneck]

ooooooo i gots this one

ooo noze you gotz a katana
your so coolz

[mattifikation]

If they're telling you that your sword is from feudal japan and you only paid 2,000 dollars for it, you've been fvcked out of 2,000 dollars. Also, zombies don't dodge things. If they did, they'd be people.

[rogeneck]

for 2000 it could be an old found sword. people will sell them to people and not know how much its worth. a guy could then go polish it and then sell it to an american online (who also doesent know what its worth). so say the guy bought it from a kid looking to get some more room in his apartment and sell it for 500. what you might have brought was a shinny, dry-rotten, poorly maintained, wall pice of a sword. all of it with a 1500 dollar shine job.

P.S. this sword could not have been more than a one hand sword to begin with.(as in it could only cut though one hand before stopping)

[neoanderson9318]

Hm... I don't think I would want a pencil for a weapon....

[the_velociraptor]

If they're telling you that your sword is from feudal japan and you only paid 2,000 dollars for it, you've been fvcked out of 2,000 dollars. Also, zombies don't dodge things. If they did, they'd be people.

Unless they're somewhat intelligent.

At which point, we'd probably be looking out for guns, or they're fast zombies.

What's worse are pressed steel replicas that are only meant for some weeaboo's basement.

[Noc]

I know someone who bought a '3 sword set' off of ebay, and the swords didn't even have an edge, just metal cut out in the shape of a blade.:lol:

[Sammo909]

What's worse are pressed steel replicas that are only meant for some weeaboo's basement.

Which is exactly why I won't be trusting my $150AU katana when the proverbial hits the fan. I'd be better off using my hardwood training sword as a club.

[the_velociraptor]

Which is exactly why I won't be trusting my $150AU katana when the proverbial hits the fan. I'd be better off using my hardwood training sword as a club.

Hell, just snatch some poor constable's truncheon.

[Hunk]

A weapon i wouldnt want to have? a 1 inch pocket knife, yeah youd be screwed then

[homelitexl]

a severed human toe

[AZombieAttack]

a computer mouse.....

[rogeneck]

a field mouse

[jscott2250]

a dildo.

yeah.

[AZombieAttack]

a dildo.

yeah.


lol...I could see that as a funny movie scene :)

[homelitexl]

haha!.,..... , ..

[weirdenator]

your bare hand
and severed bair hands:evil:
how could you kill a zombie in one punch:scare:

[Bob]

This thread is stupid and needs to be locked.

[homelitexl]

yeah its needs to be locked

[fraust]

What weapon I don't want to have?

Avtomat Kalashnikov Model 1947.

But why would I reject such an amazing weapon?

Well, the AK-47 was designed to be a reliable firearm that could put more lead in the air without a breakdown that the opponent.
As a result of this, the AK-47 has one setting. Maybe two.
Full-Auto if one, if two, safe and full auto.

Full auto firearms are not the best thing you could find during a zombie attack.
The repeated recoil won't keep your aim on a head, and ammo gets eaten.

I would, however, accept a later AK with selective fire.

[ShotGunGuy93]

What weapon I don't want to have?

Avtomat Kalashnikov Model 1947.

But why would I reject such an amazing weapon?

Well, the AK-47 was designed to be a reliable firearm that could put more lead in the air without a breakdown that the opponent.
As a result of this, the AK-47 has one setting. Maybe two.
Full-Auto if one, if two, safe and full auto.

Full auto firearms are not the best thing you could find during a zombie attack.
The repeated recoil won't keep your aim on a head, and ammo gets eaten.

I would, however, accept a later AK with selective fire.

I doubt you'll find a full auto AK in your local gun store.

The AK would be a fine weapon for WWZ.

7.62x39 can be found anywhere.

Stop taking max brooks seriously. He doesnt know shit about firearms.

[mattifikation]

This thread was better when the point was to discuss weapons that people always choose, but are actually horrible ideas. Now it's just people trying to be as silly as they can. Oh well though, as long as people are having fun!

[Faran Brigo]

This thread was better when the point was to discuss weapons that people always choose, but are actually horrible ideas. Now it's just people trying to be as silly as they can. Oh well though, as long as people are having fun!

Indeed, that was what I had in mind when I started it. Perhaps uselessly but I'd like to toss in another 3 weapons that might be here already, but there's no way I'm plowing through 20 pages of "wet noodle LOL" to find:

Grenades
Flamethrowers
Automatic shotguns

@Fraust: The AK47/AKM has three settings, the initial is safe, the middle is full auto and the bottom one is single shot. :roll:

[kiltedninja]

The Original AK-47 still had some kinks to work out of it, much like the M16A1. Further models had improvements that made them better. I'd go with an AK over an AR because I'm more familiar with the AK format.

I'm going to put the AR rifles on my list of weapons I wouldn't want to have if I could avoid it.

[Faran Brigo]

The whole AR family or just the first model they sent to Vietnam? I think by the M16A2 they had most of the "kinks" worked out.

[homelitexl]

a bb gun
moltov cocktail
flashbang grenade
a taser
a horse whip
hand saw
butter knife
laser poiter

[kiltedninja]

The whole AR family or just the first model they sent to Vietnam? I think by the M16A2 they had most of the "kinks" worked out.

The whole family. In ZPAW I'd want a gun I'm familiar with, and short of reading the Operator's manual and toying with the gun while doing so, I'm not learning.

[CAVU45]

Your loss. The AR family is lighter, more accurate, and easier to load and fire than the AK. Cleaning is a breeze. It's a very easy weapon to maintain and use.

[kiltedninja]

I'm just unfamiliar with the gun. I'm sure that when given a chance with it, I'll like it, but for now I'd take the AK instead of the AR.

[ShotGunGuy93]

Your loss. The AR family is lighter, more accurate, and easier to load and fire than the AK. Cleaning is a breeze. It's a very easy weapon to maintain and use.

+1

People say, "OmG I wud3nt wAnT to Us3 te m16 caus3 i heRd iT jamS aLoT"

Most modern AR's are pretty sturdy weapons.

Never had an FTF or malfunction on any of mine..

[unnamedbaby77]

wooot! AR/AK debate....wooo!! jk

both are good weapons in the right hands

in my humble experience the AK can be trashedand abused alot more before it starts malfunctioning

personally I would rather have an m14 socom like this : http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4646/m14vmp5mediumpe2.jpg

and so I dont get off topic:
I would HATE to get stuck with this(they take around 60 seconds to reload the 1 bullet they hold): http://hellinahandbasket.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/liberator-pistol.jpg

[mattifikation]

^eh, with .45 acp it does offer a pretty dependable escape plan from just about any situation...