Pets and other Animals in the Zed World [Archive]

DarthJoe8

04-09-2008, 09:16 PM

I would like/need to get home period!! That's where i keep my stuff. :lol:

My dogs and cats would be incidental i think, as well as my fish in the event of an outbreak. In my home they would be a good alarm. The dogs, not the cats or fish.:lol:

On the run?? :think: I think i would possibly try to keep the dogs with me/us (the family) and the cats could split. If they had to be left behind I would toss the food outside and let them loose. If Zeds do eat non humans then o-well, if they don't then lucky them.:drinking:

Sorry slimy kids.

UNDEAD FRED

04-09-2008, 09:20 PM

I have a dog, I think I would try to do everything possible to get home, and rescue my dog. plus all my stuffs there, and I have a very defendable place. pvt walls, ang very high windows. plus my nieghbors are hardcore bikers, I can go out raiding malls with them.

DarthJoe8

04-09-2008, 09:35 PM

plus my nieghbors are hardcore bikers, I can go out raiding malls with them.

I have a hardcore retired cop living next door to me. :lol: He's pretty cool. What i don't have i know he does.:drinking:He makes his own bullets also.:drinking:

Webber

04-09-2008, 10:10 PM

My dog is getting old and has back hip problems, but I'd still take him with me. There was a discussion about this kind of thing long ago on this board, and I forget who said it but they said that animals are also a great source for finding food and water, that has kinda stuck with me since. My dog can smell food from behind a closed door, on the first floor when I'm on the second with something I just made. Yeah, he'd definitely come with me.

Headless Lynx

04-10-2008, 11:36 AM

Hello everyone, i'm new here.

It depends on if animals could be affected by the virus, but if they were then I would make sure that I keep a close eye on my dog and 2 cats. If they were infected I would try to lock them out before they turn. It would be hard though because I love my dog, she's awesome.

If they couldn't be affected by the virus in any way then I would put them down in a humane way because they would be a burden, but still, very hard to do as well.

DarthJoe8

04-10-2008, 12:12 PM

If they couldn't be affected by the virus in any way then I would put them down in a humane way because they would be a burden, but still, very hard to do as well.

Why not just let them fend for themselves? They'd probably do alright.:drinking:

UNDEAD FRED

04-10-2008, 01:34 PM

If they couldn't be affected by the virus in any way then I would put them down in a humane way because they would be a burden, but still, very hard to do as well.

I dont think I could do that if they are healthy. I have a smaller dog, so I guess hes staying with me.

fester_hicks

04-10-2008, 02:33 PM

And its always a source of food, if that time comes!

Headless Lynx

04-10-2008, 06:11 PM

I dont think I could do that if they are healthy. I have a smaller dog, so I guess hes staying with me.

I would find it very difficult because I love my dog and it would be painful letting go. Also, if they were to fend for themselves (my memory is a little fuzzy) wouldn't the zeds attack the animals. I know that they wouldn't really notice a dog or a cat until they would start attacking a zed. Then the zeds will start to fight back at the animal.

And the food idea is good but it would have to be at the point where you're scratching a living off air. lol

UNDEAD FRED

04-10-2008, 06:52 PM

And its always a source of food, if that time comes!

You can have my dog snoopy only when you pry him from my cold undead fingers

Zombreach

04-10-2008, 07:20 PM

You can have my dog snoopy only when you pry him from my cold undead fingers

I'm sure if things got bad enough (hunger), you would eat your dog Snoopy and fight for the bones. :cry:

I'm not sure if I would go back home to rescue my pets. They are like family to me, but I wouldn't like to think I would risk dying to save them. I could be wrong though. If I was close to home and it seemed safe, I am sure I would head in that direction.

Although I would like to take my cats along (if I made it home), it would mean having to carry them. That would be a pain, so I would just have to set them free. My dog will only follow if she is on a leash, but she is very loyal and would probably be an asset. Her I would take with me.

Sorry to the guinea pig, you get left behind. :cry:

Darkness

04-10-2008, 08:17 PM

"I have two cats which are great hunters and quite resourceful. I would just leave them to their own if I was far away. If I was at home, I would take them with me. They ride in the truck quite well, and both love to camp." :)

zombieuprising

04-10-2008, 08:32 PM

I would set my jirbils free into the wild

Evil Pug

04-13-2008, 02:50 AM

Dog and a horse. A dog would bark when zeds are nearby and a horse can get you around when the gas runs out for vehicles.

Headless Lynx

04-14-2008, 11:55 AM

A dog would be useful for the alerting bit.

Although my friend kris has a very good point that he can make. Animals are more advanced than humans when it comes to the senses. An animal will know something that a human doesn't without even seeing it, hearing it or smelling it, it's pure instinct. And humans have lost that over instinct over thousands of years. So a dog will know when a load of walking corpses are approaching but that instinct also tells them to stay away, so fending for themselves is out of the question.

UNDEAD FRED

04-14-2008, 03:26 PM

Wasnt there something in World War Z where they used dogs to detect people who where infected with the zombie virus, and have not gone over to the other side yet. Dogs could be used to screen out people who have been bit, and are trying to hide it from others. It took a few days for Roger to turn in DOTD78, and he was bitten a few times pretty bad. Or Luda from DOTD04 was barely bit, it took some time for her to go over. Even a small bite that barely breaks skin, or even a scratch from a zombie could take time. It would be very bad if that infected person turned into a zombie while everyone was asleep in your secured location.

zombieuprising

04-14-2008, 06:49 PM

Yea that would be very bad,dogs also could attack the zeds and protect you, which would be good assuming they couldnt become infected by the virus.

Augustus Desius

04-14-2008, 08:54 PM

I don't think I could abandon my dog, so I'm keeping it. She would probably get me killed, but I guess that is the risk I run. I agree with Darkness, cats too would make good pets to catch/keep. I remember my cat used to bring me food (dead mice) when it was still alive, it was also good at keeping me calm if I got upset over something. So, I think animals would be good for the psyche.

UNDEAD FRED

04-14-2008, 09:32 PM

I think that the other survivors that you would meet will get you killed more than your dog will. You do have to sleep sometime, your dog will allways be the best person to stand watch, no zombie could get close to your position without your dog alerting you. Would you trust someone else to stand thier watch, and not fall asleep. Theres a lot of Steves from DOTD04 out there.

DarthJoe8

04-14-2008, 09:49 PM

Even a small bite that barely breaks skin, or even a scratch from a zombie could take time. It would be very bad if that infected person turned into a zombie while everyone was asleep in your secured location.

What about blood splatter? :think:

All the people who are infected tend to show signs of sickness before they die. Luda was hidden from the others. Though i don't have any idea why Ana never found out about Luda being bitten. She was a nurse after all.:loon:

Having a dog around would be a great advantage for many of the points you've made. And if i had the choice i would want them around.

I just don't know about risking my life for my dogs.:think: I guess i would have to weigh the risk factor. My family would take priority of course.

zombieuprising

04-14-2008, 10:31 PM

Theres a lot of Steves from DOTD04 out there.

lmao tr00 dat

fester_hicks

04-15-2008, 03:26 PM

a falcon would be alright, for messages and possbly hunting small game like rabbits and game birds

jagus12

05-26-2008, 05:05 PM

Im definitely taking my dog with me! He's 45 kilos Doberman, he knows how to open doors, he can smell food sources tremendously easily (when we're having dinner or lunch, doesn't matter where we are, he's always there, outside, waiting you so he can get what you haven't eat:lol:), also, a guy with a big dog next to him looks more bad ass than a guy alone...
The bad thing is that he's ugly:-(, but he's strong and I had him for five years , you cant just leave a pet that you had since it was just a little puppy!

retro zombie killer

05-27-2008, 12:08 PM

Oh man, I'd hate to leave my Cat. She'd follow me if I set her free. She was a stray Kitten and knows how to hunt. I've seen her take down a mouse I didn't even know we had in the house. My daughter would have a fit if we left the Roma. So she'd would be coming along for the ride. Roma hates to ride in a car but would. As I said she'd follow us if we were on foot and she'd know if a Zed was around. If you know how to read cats they can be great alarm systems for Zeds. The problem with dogs is they would bark and Zed would hear them. Of course Cats might yowl or Meow and for those of us who have cats we know how loud they can be. My kid is mostly home so I'd be coming home anyways. Although I might wait a while if I had my kid with me and Roma was at home. She'd do alright.

UNDEAD FRED

07-23-2008, 08:14 PM

Since we have a few new members here, I thought I would drag this thread up.

Would you risk your life for your family pet, for my dog I would, I had snoopy for 5 years now, it would tear me up if I knew he was starving to death, locked up in my house. Plus weapons,ammo, food, water, and a great shelter.

Dave Of The Dead

07-23-2008, 10:34 PM

Cerberus, my rottweiler, is cool enough that I would take him along with me as long as he didn't go nuts or feral like Brooks has said win WWZ. He is an excellent watch dog and is tough as nails.

If animals were spooked by zombies, then I would do what coal miners would do back in the day (or like in Silent Hill). I would have a small bird in a cage and every time it went nuts, I would know that zombies were around.

bandits1

07-24-2008, 12:38 AM

Our dog has been a very loyal watchdog and companion, keeping us 100% safe from burglers, roaches, lizards, and rocks for the last ten years.

In any event - no matter how dire - I know he'd do his best to protect us, even if it meant sacrificing his life, so I figure I owe it to him to do the same.

ashley

07-24-2008, 09:30 AM

I'd probably keep my dogs with me, but I wouldn't risk my life for them.

Interestingly enough, like others have mentioned, a dog could be useful. Aside from the "guard dog" principle, some dogs are trained in human remains detection and could be used as some sort of reconnaissance when entering a new building.

john154

07-24-2008, 11:52 PM

I've always wanted to eat cat.

oktanis

07-25-2008, 11:21 PM

Thats always kept me wondering, would i drag along the old mutt or no... I think not... I plan on leaving the family behind, (not out of hatred, but out of the fact that i like to take control, and they aren't all too prepared for any kind of zed encounter. and they will probably head up to the cottage in the middle of nowhere if they are smart.) so why would i drag along the dog??

ShlivanZombie

08-02-2008, 07:22 AM

sebastian my cat its very fast and quite, he follows me everywhere and actually its a great hunter i dont even have to feed him, so he would be with me on good and bad ones, hes awesome and would be very useful as company on a outbreak zombie.

PS: i feel sorry for the neighbor's dog, hes fat and lazy and it would so get eaten LOL! :lol:

Z0mb1eSlay3r

08-02-2008, 08:39 AM

My dog dosent bark much,just mainly at cats,not humans,so i could easily smuggle her away,plus she is very fast

:clap:GO BOSTON TERIIERS!!!:clap:

[Animals would be prone to the virus,they wouldnt zombify though,it would slowly kill them,but zombies would attack an eat animals,but they pefer human]

Z0mb1eSlay3r

08-02-2008, 08:51 AM

Ive heard of people using dogs as bait,or traps,like putting a cat in a cage,and when zeds try to attac u shoot zombie,but that is cruel:evil:,i mean....,um..... :x

DarthJoe8

08-04-2008, 07:06 PM

In WWZ they used sniffer dogs to search for undead during sweep and clear missions. Many a soldier owed there life to a dog who sniffed out a crawler.:drinking:They also used them to smell the infected before they turned. Very cool.:drinking:

ShlivanZombie

08-06-2008, 01:01 PM

Ive heard of people using dogs as bait,or traps,like putting a cat in a cage,and when zeds try to attac u shoot zombie,but that is cruel:evil:,i mean....,um..... :x

actually thats a great idea *mental note. use sebastian as bait to kill zombies*

mattifikation

08-07-2008, 12:11 AM

I don't have any pets.

But no, out of the pets I've recently had (or lived with,) I wouldn't bring any of them with me. They weren't bad animals, but they just weren't trained well enough to have with me in a zombie outbreak.

I wouldn't feel terribly guilty about leaving them, although I'd miss them (I miss them now. lol) But on the other hand, I know that there's no way I'd be able to protect them or care for them - neither me, nor anyone else.

They'd be better off free, on their own for however long they'd last.

Now, a good german shepard or rotweiler, I'd take. Dogs bred for work duty and trained to take the job - yeah. I'd love a couple guarding the perimeter of my safehouse.

kanUsurvive

08-07-2008, 12:20 AM

I have 3 dogs chained up at my house. So I would definitely go home and unchain them. I couldn't just up and leave and leave them at home chained with no food or water. I think a few dogs being with you during an outbreak wouldn't be so bad. If they are loyal they could protect you and warn you of danger. Whether that be Zeds or humans. Plus if all your people with you die then they would keep you company. As for my cats, I wouldn't worry about them. They are outside and know how to hunt. You can't starve a cat to death if it lives outdoors. So I think they would be just fine.

kanUsurvive

08-07-2008, 12:22 AM

actually thats a great idea *mental note. use sebastian as bait to kill zombies*

Sorry for the double post. I just saw this one.
No big deal but Sebastian is my dogs name. He's a lab/husky mix. About 4 years old.

secretcog

09-10-2008, 08:42 PM

Is it possible? Many novel zombie, and undead screen writters are making it so. But doisn't an undead earth lend to hopelessness? Isn't what makes this genre exciting is the ability to survive?

I'm having great difficulty with this notion. Let's way the pro's and con's of non-homosapien undead...

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http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n19/Synyster667/Sniffer_dog.jpg

http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t335/bombardier_bucket/zombiecrow.jpg

BioWeapon

09-11-2008, 12:01 PM

Well, are we talking supernatural undead zombies, or "infected" Zombies.

The whole supernatural undead hell on earth/no more room in hell, etc type of zombie should be restricted to humans, as typically only humans are said to go to hell, or have an afterlife, or all that other superstitious nonsense.

If we can have non-human zombies, what stops zombie mosquitos? Zombie plants (get poked by that thorn, sneeze on that pollen, you are one of the undead/infected) - Zombie bacteria? it can get quite inane and hopeless, so the zombifiable species should be limited.

In the case of infected zombies, perticularly with viruses, there are often species barriers to diseases. It would arrise first in humans most likely due to population density - crossing over to infected chimps and gorrillas is likely, and perhaps to other mammals, infected/zombie dogs I think are acceptable.

Zombie reptiles should be a no-go in my opinion, so no zombiecrows or lizards.

I prefer the idea of an infection causing canabalism that wipes out humans and after the infected die or the undead zombies rot, the world is again returned to normal, and nature continues on as if humans never existed - not a planet of mindless animals and humans walking around for eternity

DarthJoe8

09-11-2008, 01:08 PM

Not a fan of zombie animals alla Dead World comic and RE films. I don't mind zack eating everything they can catch but i think only humans should be zeds.

That said, I liked the reanimater movie where he uses the serum on the dead cat. :)

:drinking:

Lian

09-11-2008, 08:19 PM

I can't really say for sure where I stand on this. I think the concept of undead plants, and animals is certainly a no hope scenario, even if you don't get infected what the hell are you going to eat?

I have no problem with film makers adding dogs and what not to hype up the intensity factor but there are somethings I don't really want to think about.

:poo: Zombie Mosquito's pwns all. :-(

secretcog

09-11-2008, 11:13 PM

Hmmm...

I don't want to think of it either, but...

If there really was an outbreak, why couldn't the virus jump species?

It sucks, yes! Is there lore science that doesn't allow non-human undead?

BioWeapon

09-12-2008, 12:14 PM

Viruses can, and do, jump species, but there is a "barrier" so to speak.

Plant viruses do not infect humans, they cannot, the virus needs to be compatible with the host cell to replicate, and plant cells and mammal cells are simply too different.

Likewise insects and vertebrates do not share viruses, the lineages split 500 million years ago.
Reptiles and mammals split ~250 million years ago, and viruses that can jump between the 2 are very rare.
Flu is one such virus, but the flu virus is a compount virus consisting of a capsule containing approximately 10-12 sub virus particles, which can be of 8 different types (most virus particles do not even contain all 8 requisite types, and only a percentage of flu particles are actually active)

This system allows for interesting things to happen, particularly when a cell is infected by 2 virus particles at once, and allows hybrid viruses to form - the flu is the only virus type I know of that can cross from reptiles to mammals and vice versa, but as far as I know, it can't infect amphibians.

This is possible because there are already reptile and mammal flus, each with their own unique variations of the 8 subvirus types, and when a cell is infected with both types, the packaged compound virus can contain subvirus types from both types of flu (Such as a bird already infected with bird flu breathes in a mammal flu particle- which normally would not be able to sustain an infection - but a compound virus particle is packed with virus subunits allowing it to infect both)
Flu was likely around before the amniotes split into reptiles and synapsids(mammals) - a zed virus was likely not.

So, any new mammalian zed virus would not have a reptillian counter part to recombine with and possibly produce a virus able to infect both types.

As to the barriers between mammal lineages - the egg laying echidnas and platypuss would be least likely to be able to be infected, whereas chimps almost certainly could be.

fomyowen

02-23-2009, 10:34 AM

well if youve seen i am legend (i know its not a 'real' zombie film) but look what he has to do to his dog!!!! i would like to see killer hamsters!!

fomyowen

02-23-2009, 10:36 AM

ZomCom

02-23-2009, 01:30 PM

Too many if’s…

If the plague can cross species, I don’t want your pets around (that includes your hamster).

If all animals are completely freaked out by walking dead things, I don’t want your pets around (that includes your horse).

If the zombies are attracted to animal noises, I don’t want your pets around (that includes your untrained dog).

If you think it’s reasonable to risk your life for your pet, I don’t want you around.

Oh, I have two cats, an 8 lb dog that looks like a dust mop, and two kids. Now, where do you think my priorities lie?

hotlead

02-23-2009, 09:35 PM

Mrs. Hotlead and I would have to meet at home anyway to get our junk together. We'd take our cat Bear in the truck if we could, and when we got on foot we'd just let him out, but he'd probably follow us. He'd do just fine on his own, he brings in critters all the time snakes, birds, squirrels, he even killed a young 15lb raccoon once. He's a big cat, 24lbs and about 2 1/2 feet long, the vet thinks he's half bobcat or something.

Undead in Vienna

02-23-2009, 11:22 PM

Of course! I raise mini-Dachshunds, and Max Brooks is right on in "WWZ" in having Dachsies as zombie hunters. They're smart, independent, and completely fearless. I've got 11 of 'em right now, but am adding a baby in April. That brings me to an even dozen dogs with Doxie Moxie!

Best,
Undead in Vienna

ZomCom

02-23-2009, 11:36 PM

I wonder how many abandonded pets are going to be roaming the streets?

hotlead

02-24-2009, 12:03 AM

A lot, unfortunatly.

Nameless1

03-05-2009, 10:34 PM

I would definitely like a dog they might be able to detect the dead before I can, they also might warn me of raiders too. Oh and they make good company.

Bob

03-05-2009, 11:16 PM

Nameless1

Have you seen the science fiction movie a Boy and his Dog?

kiltedninja

03-06-2009, 02:23 AM

I'd bring my dog, she's a black lab, incredibly well trained, if she died, it would suck, and I'd bury her, but that's about the extent of my mourning. I've already had a dog die before, so it's nothing new to me.

Bob

03-06-2009, 06:40 AM

Kilted Ninja

Loosing a dog is tough but just wait till you are my age.
I have had more than a few dogs in my life.
I have had dogs on an almost continuous basis since I was a child.
Some good some excellent, a couple that were chosen by and belonged to my wives that I didn't care for.
The hardest part of pet ownership is having them put down.
It's heart rending when you take them for their last car ride.

Birdman44

03-06-2009, 01:44 PM

Some people can tolerate things better than others i guess. I guess it depends on how i feel towards the dog when it dies. My first dog i had died and it was heartbreaking, the second one we knew was going to go soon but she held on for two more years (surprising when she had hip problems and diabetes) but i wasn't really affected by her death that much. I've had many pets die on me besides dogs though. Everything from one of my emus to fish and hamsters. This all being said i don't think ide bring any of them with me. Too much work for me to worry about. I'de rather have to feed a human that can take care of him/herself and actually talk to me and not make any noises when a zombie comes knocking.

The Voice Of Desperation

05-13-2009, 09:41 PM

(Hopefully this belongs here...)
Most of us here have a lovable animal you call a pet. (I have cat :)) So I have a question what would you do with your pet? Would you leave it, take it with you or something completely different? (Eat it maybe? Hey I'm not here to judge anyone...)

RottenCharlie

05-13-2009, 09:47 PM

DarthJoe8

05-13-2009, 09:48 PM

Check it out...:) http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15891&highlight=pets

I think that eventually my animals would be a liability. :think: In the beginning of a zpaw I would keep them around but if I had to bug I would let them go....:-(

DarthJoe8

05-13-2009, 09:55 PM

I have a cat that would be left behind. I have a feeling his stupidity would end up getting my gnawed on by a horde of zombies. Given a chance and if I had the time, I would train a dog to be a second pair of eyes for me. Plus, with their sense of smell, they would know if any zombie is within miles of me.

I would imagine that the undead would freak out animals making them near useless in that regard. :scare:

In WWZ they talk about the use of specially trained dogs that would act as sniffers to locate the undead but they also said that very few dogs could do it, most didn't have the discipline to keep cool around the undead and would freak, either running or being overly aggressive.... I think that this would probably be the case...:think:

My one dog barks at pretty much everything and that usually sets off the other one...:lol: which then sets off the kid...

RottenCharlie

05-13-2009, 10:02 PM

I would imagine the the undead would freak out animals making them near useless in that regard. :scare:

In WWZ they talk about the use of specially trained dogs that would act as sniffers to locate the undead but they also said that very few dogs could do it, most didn't have the discipline to keep cool around the undead and would freak, either running or being overly aggressive.... I think that this would probably be the case...:think:

My one dog barks at pretty much everything and that usually sets off the other one...:lol: which then sets off the kid...

True, WWZ did address the dog issue but it seems the higher ups did not value the dogs like the trainers did or the way I would. I would need to be secluded to the point that zombies in the area would be a rare to consider taking on a dog as a pet.

Bob

05-13-2009, 10:04 PM

Lost somewhere in the depths of the super threads are my opinions of dogs in the ZPAW.

Basically I think they would pull their own weight.
My Great Dane could carry a pack with food or ammo in it.

DarthJoe8

05-13-2009, 10:12 PM

Lost somewhere in the depths of the super threads are my opinions of dogs in the ZPAW.

This will probably get merged...:drinking:

DarthJoe8

05-13-2009, 10:16 PM

True, WWZ did address the dog issue but it seems the higher ups did not value the dogs like the trainers did or the way I would. I would need to be secluded to the point that zombies in the area would be a rare to consider taking on a dog as a pet.

I'm currently listening to the audio book and the use of dogs in the ZPAW is coming up...:scare: I remember them being instrumental in the victory over the dead. I liked the story of the dogs alerting their handlers of a legless Zed in the tall grass, that was very cool. That entire part of the story was way cool. :drinking:

Freaking crawlers...:guns:

UNDEAD FRED

05-13-2009, 10:25 PM

I would do all I can to save my dog snoopy, I would cross a city full of undead cannibals to recue him. Besides thats were I have a great survival shelter, and all the tools of the trade that I would need to survive in a world of the undead. I dont want to hear nothing about you can eat your pets to, or its pimp slapping time:evil:

mattifikation

05-14-2009, 12:38 AM

Nom nom nom!
Time for General Tso's KITTEN!

I have no pets, nor do I want the responsibility. I barely take care of myself. I've never met an animal that I thought would be any good in a zombie uprising. I expect dogs to be more of a threat than an asset.

Just earlier tonight I was on a late night walk when some asshole's unleashed, unchained, unfenced, and uncollared dog started to come after me. It was barking and snarling so I know it wasn't up to anything friendly.

The stupid asshole was lucky he heard his dog bark and called him back inside, because if it would have kept coming after me it would have been found lying in the middle of the street full of stab wounds. I love dogs, but if it comes down to my life or an attacking dog's I'll kill the dog and sue the owner every time.

DeAdLY SiNZz

05-14-2009, 04:56 PM

i'd keep my dogs, they can handle themselves when we are on the run, plus they are very smart and they listen to my commands to.

I wouldn't mind having a pet Tiger, Rhino, Cheetah, Black Panther, 2 Falcons, Crocodile. haha sweeet pets huh

slayer1222

05-14-2009, 05:36 PM

i have a snake a lizard thats on its way to 2 foot and 2 girlbils so i would have to kill my pets because without me they would die of bone problems because of the uv light i would take the meat if i could get some edible stuff

OVERKILL

05-15-2009, 05:06 AM

A good dog would be worth having. They can smell things long before you can and would function as an alarm system. Before the Native Americans had horses they used dogs to carry supplies, and ate Ol' fido when he got too old. Exotic pets that require special food would best be put down when you can no longer drive to the pet store and pick up food. Out of love and loyalty I personally would try to take care of any pets I had as long as I could maintain the supplies to do so, but even then they would fall down the list past self, friends, family or other survivors.

Bob

05-15-2009, 06:11 AM

I personally would try to take care of any pets I had as long as I could maintain the supplies to do so, but even then they would fall down the list past self, friends, family or other survivors.

Depends on how pretty the "other survivors are". :evil::evil::evil:

Just kidding (or am I)

slayer1222

05-15-2009, 07:04 AM

Depends on how pretty the "other survivors are". :evil::evil::evil:

Just kidding (or am I)

no u r right it does depend:evil::evil::evil:

homelitexl

05-16-2009, 10:38 PM

im taking my basset hound iggy along he is really good at tracking.

sk8rmichael

05-18-2009, 11:30 AM

have u guys seen resident evil >.< the dogs got infected and in a few of the resident evil games there are other infected animals >.<

OVERKILL

05-19-2009, 02:36 AM

Yeah, if it's a Resident Evil T or G Virus type thing, NO PETS.

sk8rmichael

05-19-2009, 10:05 AM

definatly >.<

homelitexl

05-19-2009, 11:00 AM

screw that iggy is going to come with me and you aint got a say in that he turns ill put him down but till he does im keeping him

mattifikation

05-19-2009, 06:56 PM

'tis a free country, homelite. In Situation Z, the country will be even freer. Do as you please with your dog... but if dogs are infectable I'll be keeping my distance. :-)

homelitexl

05-20-2009, 12:26 AM

exactly matt but iggy is smarter than alot of people i know

UNDEAD FRED

05-20-2009, 04:39 AM

exactly matt but iggy is smarter than alot of people i know

No problem dude, you and Iggy are welcome to my survival shelter anytime. I rather trust someones dog then most people out there.

homelitexl

05-20-2009, 09:50 AM

well ive seen my friends get drunk and drink from my toilet and iggy wont do that sober so i think im sure because of that hes smarter than them.

sk8rmichael

05-20-2009, 10:46 AM

lol im not saying any thing bad about ur god =) in fact i have 3 dogs a lab a germans shepard and a huskie chow mix my dad always tells me if the world ever takes a shit we will probly let them lose and maby take missy (our germans shepard) other than that i realy hate having to put dogs down V.V even when the vets do it i ushaly cry.... and i dont cry much.... :x

OVERKILL

05-27-2009, 02:20 AM

Let me rephrase what I said, in a situation where dogs can get infected, none of mine will be of much use, well maybe Dingo. Shep's too old and Bones is too mean and territorial, he'd bite the first zombie he saw and infect himself. If the infection can spread to dogs, a cowardly lap dog that run's to you for protection whenever someone knocks might be more useful as an alarm system.

doctorsatan

05-27-2009, 02:40 AM

ummm proubly my dober/greyhound he's a good pup, had him put through a security dog training pragrm, he still scares the person i have watching him since hes a fast dog, and good at sneaking up on you,

Bob

05-27-2009, 06:40 AM

Do any of you know why they crop dogs ears?
Not so they look good, the original reason.

Molly the Doberman is a bitch through and through...
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8121/molly2fl1.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6299/molly3mx9.jpg

razorreilly

02-18-2010, 01:59 PM

, I was kicking around the idea of choosing and training a dog to be solely a guardian dog. I did a quick search and did not see anything, so sorry if I missed it and this topic has been discussed before. If I were to choose a breed, I would want something rather large in size, but nimble and agile, not slow and clumsy. An extra large pit bull comes to mind, however, I would want to dog to perform pure take downs and such rather than a death grip type of attack that seems the norm for most pit bulls. This makes me lean more towards a Rottweiler type of dog. Doing some web searching, I found this site http://caninebreeds.bulldoginformation.com/guardian-dogs.html that gives some good history, characteristics and such. This also led me to another idea; armor for the dog. I have hog hunted with dogs a bit and sometimes the owner will put an extra large leather collar on the dog to prevent the dog being throat-cut by the hogs. I would think a leather type of suit would be great for this, however, it would take a custom tailor/leatherworker to fit the dog properly. Here is a site with a leather type of suit; http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=dog+armor&form=QBIR&qs=n&sc=1-9#focal=2a064fa7bf3002bfa196bc5f6d3f757b&furl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pitbullarmory.com%2Fsitebuil der%2Fimages%2FPitbull_Dog_cuirass_bottom-375x281.jpg
Have any of you had good luck with a certain type of guard-dog breed? Also, do you think a dog would be a good companion/guardian against badies?

homelitexl

02-18-2010, 03:56 PM

a dobermam or a german shepard

Zombiehunter

02-18-2010, 05:32 PM

A Staffordshire Bull Terrier!

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u94/sidrioswin/tally-1.jpg

Thats my baby!

Bob

02-18-2010, 07:10 PM

Doberman for the win.
Great Danes are great dogs but are just not as smart as a Doberman.
I currently have a Great Dane Mastiff hybrid that is huge.

razorreilly

02-18-2010, 07:20 PM

I have a pit bull mix, and while I have now doubt she would stand between me and anything harmfull, she just doesnt have the mass/muscle to take down a full grown human or w/e. Her senses are very keen tho, which in itself may be a life saver.... just another thing to take into consideration

Bob

02-19-2010, 06:43 AM

Have you watched the video clip I posted a link to about different breeds being used for attack dogs?

homelitexl

02-19-2010, 09:51 AM

i have owned several dobermans and german shepards i once owned a minature doberman and he got in a fight with a full grown big lab and won

Hunk

02-19-2010, 01:15 PM

id avoid purebreeds due to the defects of selective breedin such as bad hips on german shepards or deafness in dalmatians...id get a siberian husky,german shepard mix

mellisallen

02-19-2010, 01:44 PM

if its legal in your state id go with a wolf/huskey cross. average shoulder hieght of 3 1/2 to 4 feet, 150lbs and a mouth that can swallow up a turkey. i had one when i was younger. if raised from a pup, theyre loyal and protective to the death, literally! (RIP Sampson)

UseYourHeadCutOffTheirs

02-19-2010, 03:49 PM

A Staffordshire Bull Terrier!

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u94/sidrioswin/tally-1.jpg

Thats my baby!

No offense or anything, you do have a pretty dog.....But Staffordshires are just dogs that wish they were a pit bull or a bull terrier.....

Honestly this whole concept is very idealistic. I don't have time to train a dog now. I'm pretty sure the time Zday comes my free time will be even less. Not to mention it would be another mouth to feed.

This would definitely be something to do if and when you managed to get settled down in a secure location. Your forever home if you will... Even then, I'd probably keep the dogs around mainly for live people control. They would probably be much more useful against an invading territory, more so than the undead. I just can't see where a dog can very successfully take out a zed without being attacked itself.

At the end of the world, I think breeds aren't going to be easy to come by. You can train any dog to be aggressive, so breed probably wouldn't matter too much.

Idealistically though, I would say mostly your typical hunting dogs and the less understood breeds. I would say your old school wolf hunting dogs would be good. And of course the breeds that go without saying:

Dobermans
Huskys
Pit bulls
German Shepards
Rottweilers

Other breeds to consider:
Irish Wolfhound
Newfoundlands
Bull Mastiffs

UseYourHeadCutOffTheirs

02-19-2010, 03:51 PM

id avoid purebreeds due to the defects of selective breedin such as bad hips on german shepards or deafness in dalmatians...id get a siberian husky,german shepard mix

I could see Siberian huskys for sure....You should see what one did to my face when i was little. That sucker picked me up by the side of my head and shook me around like it was nothing. I almost lost my eye, and have this nice souvenir scar to remember her by.

Bob

02-19-2010, 04:12 PM

Scars are sexy.

I found the link.
Check it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZm037jPNgc

DarthJoe8

02-19-2010, 04:17 PM

If you own a home make sure you check your insurance co. It could cost thousands of dollars to insure your home if you get the "wrong" dog....:roll:

hotlead

02-19-2010, 10:37 PM

In my experience, lots of purebreds are dumber than a box of hammers and have emotional problems, this comes from inbreeding by second-rate breeders.

I've had two purebreds and the rest have been mutts of various types, the mutts have been the smartest and best dogs I've had.

kiltedninja

02-20-2010, 02:42 PM

The worst scars I have are from a German Shepard, but I've gotten off lucky every time I've fought a dog (3 times) and I've only had to go to the hospital once.

Zombie Cerebral Cortex

02-20-2010, 03:38 PM

I would suggest getting a Doberman or a German Shepard.
Both of these dogs are smart and may get the job done.

When looking for good guard dogs, look up what the dogs were made to do.
Dobermans were made to guard, they were made by a tax collector in Germany to protect him on his runs.
Although purebreeds have a lot of problems, and secondrate breeders do not help with their inbreeding, it is best to look up the breeder and find someone top notch from kettle clubs and dog shows.
Also look at the parents, if the parents are bad dogs, the pups will mostl ikely be as well.

I would say, get a bit of a mix. You lose a lot of the high problems of pue, but also can maybe gain some that you don't want.
Mixes however do not usually have more problems.
Maybe a Doberman German Shepard mix? That would be pretty neat.

All I know is that I have done a lot of research into dogs.

Do not trust a lot of opinions. Look up straight facts.
Look up what the problems with each breed are.
Look up how to maintain them properly and see if you are willing to take the proper steps to making them a good dog.

Dobermans take time to be good guard dogs, you might want to start with them when they are puppies.
You have to spend a good amount of time with this dog, and know that they tend to stick to one owner, so if you have another with you, you might want them to spend a good amount of time with the dog as well.

Rotweilers, however you spell it. Were made also for guarding. The guarded the butchorshops.

Either way, look them up, get the fact, make sure the breeder is top notch, and see if you are willing to take the steps.

Oh and also a fun fact.
Great Danes were made for hunting boar I believe, or other big animals.
So they do have a nice predator in them.

BUT! For me, I love my dobies, so I would get a Doberman. They are smart, they think, and they are always alert.
German shepards though. Great dogs. Smart dogs.

Bob

02-20-2010, 05:36 PM

Well I think you can tell what I think about Dobermen by my avatar.
I have had several, I find them to be intelligent even tempered dogs.
They are very intelligent without being so smart they constantly get in trouble.
They do well with moderate exercise.
They are animal aggressive and need an experienced owner.
They can be hard headed but are awesome companions.
I do believe in cropped ears on a Doberman.

Ya know many years ago a guy who ran a feed store was telling me about a guy who was trying to cross Dobermen with Great Danes.
At the time I considered it a travesty having a pair of pure Dobermen at the time.
Looking back I wish I had asked more questions about what the dogs turned out like.

I will say this about the Great Mastiff or the Daniff which ever you prefer to call them.
Mine has a broader head and shorter muzzle than a Dane.
He does not have that "regal" look that a Dane has.
He is as tall as a medium Dane.
He weighs more than my first wife.
He has a damn near unbelievable bite.
He is more aggressive than a Dane.
When he gets in a fight he has to be physically forced to stop.
He and my female Doberman have had their issues.
This one should probably be an only dog but I will not get rid of my Doberman.
When I bought him I signed on for the full tour so I am trying to learn how to better manage him.

Bob

02-20-2010, 06:59 PM

KN

What do the scars look like (you don't need to show me).
How did they treat the bite, was it a puncture or a tear?

Bob

02-21-2010, 09:11 AM

This is intended to be a serious question.
Other than as companion animals how could cats improve your chances of survival.

razorreilly

02-21-2010, 04:21 PM

Other than bringing home a rat/lizard/whatever if you got hard-up enuff for food, I wouldnt think much.

Zombreach

02-21-2010, 04:28 PM

Other than bringing home a rat/lizard/whatever if you got hard-up enuff for food, I wouldnt think much.

There is that, but cats are also very aware of their surroundings. They would warn you of impending danger--although not purposely--by reacting to anything unusual. My cats always run to the window/door when something catches their attention. They are also much quieter than dogs and need less to eat--most food they can catch on their own. The main downfall is their lack of loyalty. I'm sure some cats would follow you, but most would have to be carried from place to place.

Pros and Cons--just like dogs. :)

Bob

02-21-2010, 06:47 PM

The only thing I could come up with as a major positive was rodent control.

Zombreach

02-21-2010, 07:32 PM

The only thing I could come up with as a major positive was rodent control.

Spoken like a true dog person...:)

UNDEAD FRED

02-21-2010, 08:03 PM

This is intended to be a serious question.
Other than as companion animals how could cats improve your chances of survival.

Cats would be very helpful to relieve mental stress, just like a dog, if you had a bad day at work, your pet allways cheers you up when you come home. Is it a question of survival, or human needs to survive?

Slayer

02-21-2010, 11:49 PM

I own a pit bull, I'm a dog person, so I don't really have much to say about cats. A pet dog has a positive effect in Reducing depression, and studies have shown it does that, plus even reduce blood pressure and stress. A good idea to have one in any situation, especially if your alone in a zombie infested world, the dog is a friend, and having one can help reduce the risk of going insane in such a situation.

Bob

02-22-2010, 04:22 PM

Zombreach

Yup I admit to it.
I have lived with women and cats most of my life and still can't figure either one out.

Zombreach

02-22-2010, 08:10 PM

Zombreach

Yup I admit to it.
I have lived with women and cats most of my life and still can't figure either one out.

I love the independence of cats--it's all about them--come to think of it, women are like that too....LOL! :lol:

I like both cats and dogs, but while I'll have several cats at a time, I only want one dog. They are so much more work.

Bob

02-22-2010, 08:17 PM

I only want one dog. They are so much more work.

Kind of like men huh? :lol:

Zombreach

02-22-2010, 08:23 PM

Kind of like men huh? :lol:

Nah, men are easy, there's only two things they want. Food is one...and I'll let you guess the other... :evil: :lol:

bruceleekickedchucksass

02-22-2010, 08:38 PM

lalalalala dont wanna hear it lol ide go with a great dane or bull masten they have the weight to keep anyone down

CAVU45

02-22-2010, 09:21 PM

Nah, men are easy, there's only two things they want. Food is one...and I'll let you guess the other... :evil: :lol:

A comfortable pair of slippers. :)

bruceleekickedchucksass

02-22-2010, 09:25 PM

o and entertainment

Zombreach

02-22-2010, 09:28 PM

Zombreach just shakes her head and walks away...yep, yep ,yep... funny boys, those two...

bruceleekickedchucksass

02-22-2010, 09:30 PM

o gross not that kind of entertainment zombreach wierdo lol

Vorpal

02-23-2010, 02:22 AM

Nah, men are easy, there's only two things they want. Food is one...and I'll let you guess the other... :evil: :lol:

Beer of course! :drinking:

Zombreach

02-23-2010, 06:52 AM

How silly of me...I guess there really are more than 2 choices. :)

CAVU45

02-23-2010, 08:57 AM

I still say a comfortable pair of slippers....or a good steak. :)

Zombie Cerebral Cortex

02-23-2010, 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=Zombreach;459150]There is that, but cats are also very aware of their surroundings. They would warn you of impending danger--although not purposely--by reacting to anything unusual. My cats always run to the window/door when something catches their attention. They are also much quieter than dogs and need less to eat--most food they can catch on their own. The main downfall is their lack of loyalty. I'm sure some cats would follow you, but most would have to be carried from place to place.
QUOTE]

I would think the main reason for having a dog over a cat would be the guarding purpose.
The dog can attack a zombie in a way that the cat can't.
I'm not bashing the cat fighting style, I'm just saying that a big dog might do a little better than a big cat in that field.

But like you said, pros and cons.
You trade off some things to gain others.

DarthJoe8

02-23-2010, 09:23 PM

I'm going with the cat. :lol:

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/218923/80923949.jpg

bruceleekickedchucksass

02-23-2010, 09:45 PM

aww that kittens adorible if its not aiming at u

DarthJoe8

02-23-2010, 09:46 PM

No worries, unless you're a zed. :guns:

bruceleekickedchucksass

02-23-2010, 09:50 PM

shit gotta watch my back now

bruceleekickedchucksass

02-24-2010, 10:09 PM

I still say a comfortable pair of slippers....or a good steak. :)

i second the steak

Zombreach

02-24-2010, 10:13 PM

I'd take a thick juicy hamburger over a steak--a bacon jalapeno-cheese burger! With that in mind--give me a cow as my pet/animal in the zed world. Food and company--not to mention that they are soooo cute...:)

bruceleekickedchucksass

02-24-2010, 10:21 PM

ill take a herd

Bob

02-24-2010, 10:54 PM

Zombreach

You saw me post this "bacon jalapeno-cheese burger" somewhere right?

Thin crust pepperoni and jalapeno pizza???

Zombreach

02-24-2010, 11:34 PM

Zombreach

You saw me post this "bacon jalapeno-cheese burger" somewhere right?

Thin crust pepperoni and jalapeno pizza???

Sorry Bob, I never saw you post anything about my favorite burger from Chili's. Why do you ask?

And the pizza sounds delicious--needs ham, sausage and bacon also..:)

SWAT Zombie

02-25-2010, 12:35 AM

I love a nice thick meat lovers pizza. As far as burgers go, NOTHING beats an Ultimate Double Whopper. NOTHING!!!

Bob

02-25-2010, 06:35 AM

That is my favorite burger.
I tend to eat them that way everywhere if possible.

It's the simplicity of that style pizza.
The crust should be almost as thin as a cracker.
It's about the topping not about bread.
I eat other topping combinations on whatever kind of crust.

Zombreach

02-25-2010, 10:58 AM

mattifikation

02-25-2010, 04:03 PM

I love a nice thick meat lovers pizza. As far as burgers go, NOTHING beats an Ultimate Double Whopper. NOTHING!!!

Either you've never eaten a BK Quad Stacker, or your taste buds are broken.

Brute773

03-04-2010, 06:29 PM

i would love to have my dog but hes is a baby he'll whine if you fall a sleep or leave him alone for 5minutes and he barks alot....

it would suck cause G flesh is toxic im pretty sure:cry:

McNally

03-06-2010, 03:47 PM

Unicorn
'nuff said

Dave Of The Dead

03-10-2010, 02:00 PM

I'd like to have my dog with me, but sometimes I think something so big would end up being more of a hassle than an aid. So in with that said, maybe I'll just go with a canary in a cage like miners used to. Maybe the presence of zombies would freak the little bugger and warn me.

SWAT Zombie

03-10-2010, 02:28 PM

Either you've never eaten a BK Quad Stacker, or your taste buds are broken.

GAAAASP!!!!!! Quad Stacker? Is that new? I must have one. We don't have a Burger King/Hungry Jacks where I live. McDonald's, KFC, Subway, Red Rooster, multiple pizza, fish and chips and poncey restaurants, but NO FVCKING HUNGRY JACKS, GAR-DAMMIT!!!!

Bob

03-10-2010, 06:28 PM

Where did Zombreach get to?

Zombreach

03-10-2010, 07:05 PM

Where did Zombreach get to?

I'm right here Bob. :greet:

Bob

03-10-2010, 07:44 PM

Oh ok we have not heard from you in a few days.
I wuz afeerd you wuz under the weather.

Zombreach

03-10-2010, 07:54 PM

Oh ok we have not heard from you in a few days.
I wuz afeerd you wuz under the weather.

LOL--nope--I ist doing goot--:lol:

It's actually harder typing like that.... :loon:

BTW--you said "we"--do you have a mouse in your pocket?

mattifikation

03-10-2010, 10:52 PM

GAAAASP!!!!!! Quad Stacker? Is that new? I must have one. We don't have a Burger King/Hungry Jacks where I live. McDonald's, KFC, Subway, Red Rooster, multiple pizza, fish and chips and poncey restaurants, but NO FVCKING HUNGRY JACKS, GAR-DAMMIT!!!!

They've been out for as long as Stackers have been out, but they aren't shown on the menu. You have to ask for it. I've been tempted to ask for a Quint Stacker, but my arteries would never forgive me...

Bob

03-10-2010, 11:43 PM

knarF

03-11-2010, 06:02 AM

A dog would be pretty useful i imagine, especially when it came to getting food. But protecting them would be pretty difficult depending on the breed, and i imagine they could get you into trouble pretty easily with a badly timed bark or moan.

However, i only own a gold fish right now, i don't think s/he would help much. My guinea pigs both died recently :(
They would scare the hell out of any undead freak.

Bob

03-11-2010, 06:27 AM

Sorry to hear about the guinea pigs.

knarF

03-11-2010, 07:07 AM

It's alright, they lived for like 8 years, which is pretty old for a guinea pig and they both just sorta died. One was on my lap when he died, it was pretty sad. That's the problem with all pets, you oulive them. Except for toitoises, then they outlive you and your children...

Zombreach

03-11-2010, 09:44 AM

Mouse?
No I am just glad to see you... :evil:

Oh you know how it is, I often refer to myself in the third person plural (Pluralis Majestatis) to annoy others

"We are annoyed with some of the newbies, we shall smite them if they do not behave".

Also fun is not saying I.

"Bob is the ruler of the known and unknown Multiverse.

I think Bob is feeling full of himself..:lol:

..and it's a good thing it's not a mouse, or we'd have to shoot the little trouser troller...:evil:

I like to speak in the third person, but people always think I'm crazy..:loon:
Just yesterday a co-worker said speaking in the third person is a sign of someone who is egocentric...imagine that...Me?..egocentric?

BAH!

Zombie Cerebral Cortex

03-12-2010, 04:12 PM

Unicorn
'nuff said

Thank you, finally a real animal that we could use.

They've been out for as long as Stackers have been out, but they aren't shown on the menu. ...

Why would they not show such a thing on the menu? >.> Is it because they think we all have tini hands?

Bob

03-12-2010, 08:01 PM

Bobs hands are 2XL.
They would dwarf that sammich.

Zombreach

03-12-2010, 08:19 PM

Bobs hands are 2XL.
They would dwarf that sammich.

My hands are only medium--I guess that sandwich would be too big for me....:cry: I could cut it in half and have it for two meals....:)

SWAT Zombie

03-12-2010, 09:26 PM

I just may try to swallow it whole if I ever get my hands on one.

mattifikation

03-13-2010, 12:01 AM

Why would they not show such a thing on the menu? >.> Is it because they think we all have tini hands?

Because we live in a stupid country, that's why. We live in a country where you can sue fast food companies for making you fat.

CAVU45

03-13-2010, 02:25 PM

A person can sue for damned near any reason. Doesn't mean the judge will accept the case and not throw it out, such as happened with the case you mentioned. But stupid country? Guess that's a matter of opinion.

mattifikation

03-13-2010, 05:46 PM

I like the idea of the United States of America that was established by our Declaration of Independence and clarified in our Constitution. I just wonder where the hell that country is, and how this lobbyist-bought, lawyer-run, propaganda-controlled thing ended up on the same land that the United States was supposed to exist on.

CAVU45

03-13-2010, 08:17 PM

I agree with you. All the more reason to get involved, especially now. At the risk of getting political, I fervently believe this country is at a crossroads and the next few elections will tell which way the country will go. I ran into a group called "Tea Party Patriots". If you want I'll PM you the particulars on them. In a nutshell it's a somewhat Libertarian group.

Zombie Cerebral Cortex

03-18-2010, 05:50 PM

Frankly this country when down hill when people stopped paying attention to who they were voting for.
They never look at the other canidate and they only seem to still to their Republican or Democrat. >.>
At risk of getting off subject
Donkies, elephants.
Ok :P

No, but seriously there are so many people now that are trying to be all "we need change more change" or "I don't vote"
In all honesty, the whole democracy falls apart when the people start to get out of the control and decide "let the goverment do it I don't wanna bother".
Just my opinion.

Anyway. I want a pig. He'd bulldoze some zombies. I think.