Best close combat weapon

[J Dub]

I meant the sword mate, since I do wear a kilt it would make sense that I use a Scottish weapon.

wonder what the real deal would fetch and if they're still being made? it would make one sick go to cqb weapon :evil:

[detpat]

both highland great swords and basket hilt broadswords are still being made, although i would caution against the military dress models of 1836 pattern as they aren't real swords. cold steel made a copy that got good reviews from sword researchers i know. i would suggest the single edge back swords as they are a better design for a sword you are going to really use as opposed to hang on a wall.

[kiltedninja]

Whatever I get, a dirk is going to be my secondary melee weapon.

[homelitexl]

main weapon~homelite pro chainsaw back up- 2 homelite xl saws built 2 my specs last resort-my pump action 16 guage

[kiltedninja]

Main: Ishapore 2A1 rifle

Sidearm:Colt 1911

Last Resort: Seppuku

Other: Liquor, Claymore, Dirk, and pocket knife.

[mattifikation]

You're gonna carve your own guts out as a last resort?

Seriously dude, just save 1 bullet. :lol:

[kiltedninja]

Yeah, because if I save one bullet, then I'll not be able to kill that one more zombie.

[mattifikation]

dude. what if you stick the knife in, and you're like... "whoa ****. that hurts. dont wanna do this anymore." and then you just have to limp around with a puncture wound until you die of tetanus?

[slayer1222]

unless he stabs himsellf in the head or slits his throat or his heart

[bandits1]

unless he stabs himsellf in the head or slits his throat or his heart
I don't think too many people have the stones to stab themselves in the head. I don't see it as a great alternitive to being eaten alive.

[slayer1222]

I don't think too many people have the stones to stab themselves in the head. I don't see it as a great alternitive to being eaten alive.

thats a good point

[kiltedninja]

I know, but it's a resolve thing, I'll have to be like 'I'll be dead in a matter of seconds, or they'll eat me and I'll be a zombie.'

[DeAdLY SiNZz]

running around like this guy? :lol:

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj123/jonwaite/funnies/a0cd6733793b.gif

were you pretending ur dr pepper was a claymore lol?

[kiltedninja]

I think he laughed so hard it spewed all over his keyboard.

Back on topic...

What if you cut the handle of a sledgehammer short enough to make it like a warhammer?

[mattifikation]

With my luck, I'd be the guy who had to use the chopped off bit of handle.

[Engimal]

Baseball bat with hammer strapped to leg...
If the zombie grabs the bat when I swing.. BAM! Right handed hammer blow to the head.

[slayer1222]

this may sound stupid but a dil** would make a good weapon but the big 3 foot rubber ones they are strong durable and pack a punch and dont ask how i no that

[DeAdLY SiNZz]

this may sound stupid but a dil** would make a good weapon but the big 3 foot rubber ones they are strong durable and pack a punch and dont ask how i no that

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS GONNA ASK YOU HOW YOU KNOW THAT BCUZ WE CAN ALL ASSUME YOU GOT SLAPPED IN THE FACE BY ONE!!!!
:evil:

[homelitexl]

yeah thats sick and i dont want to know how you know that and i still picl the chainsaw or a wood axe.

[slayer1222]

it is a good weapon sick but a good weapon

[homelitexl]

almost as sick as my moms meatloaf

[mattifikation]

I've hit people with dildos before. Dude's right, it takes a person down. And then everyone laughs at them. Really hard. For a long time.

[CityOfChicago]

I'd use the bat or some other weighty club. I'd hate to have some group around me, and speed is of the essence, then my axe or machete gets caught in dude's skull.

[hotlead]

I've given this subject some thought, and I can't imagine any situation I would normally find myself in, where I'd have the occasion to beat someone down with a dildo.

Maybe I'm not hanging around with the right folks........

[mattifikation]

+1 for bat. I'd rather protect my own brain than destroy the zombie's.

[Bob]

You know I don't think I have ever even seen a dildo other than in porn or in a package.
There was just never a need for one...

[Dave Of The Dead]

This has gotten morbidly off topic. And to contribute to that, I'll just say that yes, I was jumped by my two lesbian friends once upon a time and beat with a dildo. I didn't know whether to cower in fear or laugh my ass off.

NOW! I was thinking that maybe a good close combat weapon would be maybe a 10ft pike with a crossbar on it. Have maybe three pikemen and one shooter. Stick the zeds around you with the pike and the crossbar will keep them from just walking right up the shaft. Here is where the shooter will do his job. If you get enough pikemen, you can form some sort of a phalanx with one or two shooters (with shotguns) and hold out as long as needed, or is possible.

[homelitexl]

one of those chaisaws on a pole would work better

[Hitman]

I'd think the crossbar would be too good of a hand-hold for the zombies . that plus a weapon that takes 2 operators sounds like a bad idea.

you might look up the old mancatchers , they might work for what you want.

[homelitexl]

no this pole saw only takes 1 guy to run plus its awesome you can get it at home depot for 200$

[Dave Of The Dead]

I'd think the crossbar would be too good of a hand-hold for the zombies . that plus a weapon that takes 2 operators sounds like a bad idea.

you might look up the old mancatchers , they might work for what you want.

I didn't even think about that. One drawback I see with that is you may need a bit more accuracy where with the pike, you just stick em' and try to keep them still as much as possible.

[tigger2]

I chose machette but I was thinking more like this
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww35/sqeeber/kurki.jpg

[detpat]

a pike only takes one person to operate!

[Dave Of The Dead]

I chose machette but I was thinking more like this
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww35/sqeeber/kurki.jpg

YES! You are now and forever my friend sir/ma'am. Everyone else on this forum must be sick and tired of me talking about those wonderful tools called kukris but I'm sure as hell not sick of bragging about them. I have two myself. The first, "D'Arcy," is the real deal Ghurka Kukri made in Nepal. While the other one, "Lesia," is from Cold Steel and I have to tell you that I have chopped down a tree with this mother F**ker and not even damaged it in the least. I am the kukri guru and love them to pieces. Yes, I name my weapons. Is that weird? Anyway, pictures of both are below, first D'Arcy then Lesia.

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8884/darcyf.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/977/lesia.jpg

[CityOfChicago]

Nothing wrong with naming your weapons, or even talking to them. But if they talk back you may have a problem.

[Dave Of The Dead]

Nothing wrong with naming your weapons, or even talking to them. But if they talk back you may have a problem.

I'm not saying anything about that....
"No D'Arcy there are no more souls left for you to consume...."
That D'Arcy, always after me about something or other....

[homelitexl]

better than smith he always wants me to run him through people chain first:lol: jokin

[CityOfChicago]

I'm sure she'll settle down after you put her on her little pillow next to yours when you sleep.

[Dave Of The Dead]

I'm sure she'll settle down after you but her on her little pillow next to yours when you sleep.

:lol: Aleksandra already claimed that spot. :roll:

[kiltedninja]

My knife's name is Jack, my brass knuckles are named Finley, my sword's name is Sgt. Johnson.

[slayer1222]

just to say to everyone but a big 3 foot rubber dildo and custom make a sheath then you have a good weapon and for extra stealth buy a black one and deffo not the glow in the dark ones

[CAVU45]

just to say to everyone but a big 3 foot rubber dildo and custom make a sheath then you have a good weapon and for extra stealth buy a black one and deffo not the glow in the dark ones



I really hope you're not serious. Nope, couldn't be.

[mattifikation]

The purple dildo in Grand Theft Auto was a major beat-down weapon. You could own the city with that thing.

[ZedHunter]

I voted Axe. But, I'd be willing to use a bat, axe, shovel or a machete.

I'm not picky. ;)

[homelitexl]

i still like the chainsaw

[J Dub]

i'm still sticking with the claymore:mrgreen:

[hotlead]

The one in the top of the picture below is a US issue Model 1917 bolo knife made by Plumb in 1918.

It's the best woods tool I've ever used and comes with me whenever we leave the pavement, I have three of them, one in each truck and one on my pack.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn73/hotlead_photos/IMG_0512.jpg

[Dark Gale]

The one in the top of the picture below is a US issue Model 1917 bolo knife made by Plumb in 1918.

It's the best woods tool I've ever used and comes with me whenever we leave the pavement, I have three of them, one in each truck and one on my pack.

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn73/hotlead_photos/IMG_0512.jpg

How big is it? (I haven't held anything in that picture in real life, so I wouldn't know it's size through comparison.)

[Dave Of The Dead]

How big is it? (I haven't held anything in that picture in real life, so I wouldn't know it's size through comparison.)

There's a ruler on the multi-tool to give you an idea.

Very sexy knives hotlead. I especially adore the bolo-style blade.

[Dark Gale]

There's a ruler on the multi-tool to give you an idea.



Oh, I didn't notice, thanks.

[kiltedninja]

When I get my camera, I'll show you some of my toys. I'm looking at getting a trench knife still, the American 1918 model.

[hotlead]

Very sexy knives hotlead. I especially adore the bolo-style blade.

Thanks, the Gerber multitool is on my belt daily, and the other two are with me when my boots hit dirt.

The mini KaBar is surprisingly handier than the full size one for camp work.

The bolo takes the place of full sized knives and hatchets, I keep the lower part of the bolos' blade real sharp and the heavier part more of a sharp wedge, about 30 degrees, so I won't lose the edge so quick when chopping and splitting.

I don't collect knives, really, I just try different ones untill a need is met. In my mind, they're tools to be used and cared for, and having the right tool for the right job is something to be appreciated. I'm also pretty nostalgic about stuff, I much prefer steel and walnut, leather, canvas, and wool to most modern stuff.

In my case, the tools need to be able to do as many jobs as possible. The mini KaBar is a kick ass camp knife and would be a good fighting knife if neccessary, but if I had to pick just one to carry, the full size KaBar is probably the better choice.

[homelitexl]

id get a bayonet

[Killazombie22]

i say baseball bat because u dont have to worry about getting it stuck in a zombies head

[Dark Gale]

i say baseball bat because u dont have to worry about getting it stuck in a zombies head

It can break and/or dent and then you won't have a weapon.

(^ I have that phrase on a macro now)

[bandits1]

It can break and/or dent and then you won't have a weapon.

(^ I have that phrase on a macro now)
Any weapon can break -- not just bats.

[Dark Gale]

Any weapon can break -- not just bats.

I know that, but there are weapons on that list which have a much smaller chance of breaking.

[slayer1222]

I know that, but there are weapons on that list which have a much smaller chance of breaking.

like a dildo

and my post was serious and i am now buying a big 3 foot black dildo with custom sheath

[CAVU45]

like a dildo

and my post was serious and i am now buying a big 3 foot black dildo with custom sheath

I would laugh my ass off watching you smack a zed with a dildo while it's chomping on you.

[slayer1222]

I would laugh my ass off watching you smack a zed with a dildo while it's chomping on you.

i have actuly tested it is possible for a dilo to smash in a skull

[Bob]

To be guys some of you seem obsessed with dildos.
Whats up with that?

[mattifikation]

How do you test the skull smashing power of a dildo?

[CAVU45]

i have actuly tested it is possible for a dilo to smash in a skull

Hey, whatever. Dont' ask, Don't tell. Have a fairy...I mean have a merry old time. :loon:

[homelitexl]

dont turn your back on them ......
unless you have the lotion there only weakness that our a 12 guage sawn off

[Fawkes]

How do you test the skull smashing power of a dildo?

A question that should never be asked haha

[detpat]

doesn't the UL listing have that info...............

[slayer1222]

anyway i was just making a point a dildo is a good weapon even my mum has confirmed how strong they are dont ask anyway off the subject of dildos would a bayonet make a good weapon like the big 10" bladed ones

[homelitexl]

okay ENOUGH ABOUT DILDOS THEY GIVE ME HE CREEPS ON ANOTHER SUBJECT NO SEX TOY SHOULD EVER BE A WEAPON

[Dave Of The Dead]

okay ENOUGH ABOUT DILDOS THEY GIVE ME HE CREEPS ON ANOTHER SUBJECT NO SEX TOY SHOULD EVER BE A WEAPON

I agree. It kind of weirds me out how convinced you guys are about this dildo thing.

[Bob]

Freaks and their fetishes...

[CAVU45]

anyway i was just making a point a dildo is a good weapon even my mum has confirmed how strong they are dont ask anyway off the subject of dildos would a bayonet make a good weapon like the big 10" bladed ones

I just gotta ask, can't thelp myself. If you limp wrist a dildo, will it fail to go off? :lol:

[Darkness]

"Ok, back to reality guys. If he wants to bash Zombies with a giant Dildo, we'll let the Vice Squad deal with it."

"Let's get back to standard weapons now, please." :roll:

[Engimal]

No need for weapons when your pal is Chuck Norris..

[bandits1]

Has anybody posted these up, yet?

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/276/20070207091404photo2.jpg

...it's an axe and a pry-bar -- plus it comes in "tactical" black. All it needs is a weapon light and you're all set.

[Darkness]

"Way cool!" :)

"Aren't those for Ice Climbing?" :think:

[Engimal]

I'd take the bottom middle one...

[bandits1]

"Way cool!" :)

"Aren't those for Ice Climbing?" :think:
Nope, they're for law enforcement and rescue personnel for rescue/entry. http://www.thefirestore.com/store/product.cfm/pid_5006_zak_tool_mini_halligan_mini_pry_axe_tacti cal_entry_tool/

[Engimal]

Law Inforcement?
They can't stop a riot with out, but they sure can kill someone...

[Darkness]

Nope, they're for law enforcement and rescue personnel for rescue/entry. http://www.thefirestore.com/store/product.cfm/pid_5006_zak_tool_mini_halligan_mini_pry_axe_tacti cal_entry_tool/

"Ah! Like breaking doors, and walls, and stuff. To get trapped people out. Stuff like that?"

[Engimal]

Or skull destroying?

[Bob]

I would like it better if there was an option for a loop instead of the pry part.

[CityOfChicago]

Those are fire tools. Some SWAT and tactical teams (plainclothes drug and gang teams that work out of district or precinct houses) carry the large version of the Halligan for serving warrants, but the rest of us don't have access to them.

But I agree, they would definitely put a lump in a zeds day.

[bandits1]

I was just thinking, in the context of this thread, that this would solve the problem of deciding whether to carry a pry bar/wrecking bar for opening locked doors and windows or an axe/hammer/pike to smash things with -- this is all three.

[CAVU45]

Bandit, that's about as tacticool is it comes! I want one!

[ZedHunter]

Thats beastly.

[hotlead]

I've had a tool for about six months made by "dead on" called the "Annihilator", it's a kick ass hammer/pry bar/wrecking bar type thing.

When I saw it at HD, I had to come up with a real reason I needed it and tried to think about how I'd actually use it at work. I eventually came up with a good reason and got it, and it has been a great tool, I use it every day.

I don't have a pic right now and I'm too computer illiterate to make a link(Mrs. Hotlead hasn't shown me how to do that yet:drool:), but it's pretty cool.

The guys call it "the zombie tool".

[Dark Gale]

I've had a tool for about six months made by "dead on" called the "Annihilator", it's a kick ass hammer/pry bar/wrecking bar type thing.

When I saw it at HD, I had to come up with a real reason I needed it and tried to think about how I'd actually use it at work. I eventually came up with a good reason and got it, and it has been a great tool, I use it every day.

I don't have a pic right now and I'm too computer illiterate to make a link(Mrs. Hotlead hasn't shown me how to do that yet:drool:), but it's pretty cool.

The guys call it "the zombie tool".

is this what you're talking about?

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/21/78/1df0c0a398a072dcfb7f0210.L._AA280_.jpg

[hotlead]

That's the one!!!

It's a good thing you know what you're doin'.

See Bob, you could put a wrist thong on that one.

[kiltedninja]

When I replace my ASP, I'm getting a wrist strap for it.

[Bob]

That looks kool.
With a wrist strap you could let go of it and grab a gun.
Not saying it would not be unhandy with it hanging from your wrist while you were trying to aim but hey at least you would not have to drop it.

When you said HD did you mean Home Depot?
I may have to go get one, it looks like just the thing for my job as a network admin.

[hotlead]

Yeah, Home Depot. When I got it, it was about $30 there, on various websites it's around $50.

BTW, I think it would be the most useful tool network admin folks could get, you should get a tool belt and hammer loop while you're at HD so can carry it around your office more conveniently.

[CAVU45]

You could use the tool in your weak hand so if it's hanging by a wrist strap it shouldn't have an adverse effect on your strong hand with a handgun. If it isn't too heavy I don't think it would effect your shooting a longarm either. What I'd be worried about more is getting poked by that pointy end when it's hanging by my wrist.

[kiltedninja]

Or you could learn to shoot with both hands, because that's a lot easier than learning to use an H2H weapon in your off hand.

[Onslaught]

I own an annihilator. (got it from the GF in my easter basket!)

it's a great tool. the "board straightener" is really more of a "board mauler", tearing huge chunks and rounding corners off of 2 by's with the greatest of ease. It works great as a hammer/prybar/nail puller, and has a couple slots that can be used as a wrench. the best feature by far is the bottle opener tab under the hammer head though.

I'd say it's a bit heavy to leave dangling from your wrist, but it'll put quite a hurtin on any feisty cadavers you come across.

I have to say that it is much better balanced and thought out than the stanley fubar. it handles like a framing hammer, not like a sledge.

[Onslaught]

Or you could learn to shoot with both hands, because that's a lot easier than learning to use an H2H weapon in your off hand.

I'll agree with that. whenever I shoot with my off hand I get cceptable results. Not so much when swinging the annihilator. I can swing it, but power and aim are way off when compared to the strong hand.

[Dave Of The Dead]

Using melee weapons with your weak hand can be dangerous. Thats why I laugh at all the newbies that say they want to dual wield swords and shit. Unless your ambidextrous, I wouldn't recommend using anything meant to be used as a close combat weapon in your off hand. I have tried training myself with my pistol in my left hand but because I cut my trigger finger down to the bone last year and had to get some tendon reconstruction done, its still a little hand for me to pull the trigger without the hammer pulled back first.

[homelitexl]

yes ut with practicei have learned to wiekd two homelite xls at once

[Engimal]

... What did he say?

[Bob]

Danged if I know.

[Darkness]

yes ut with practicei have learned to wiekd two homelite xls at once

"He said, 'Yes, but with practice, I have learned to wield two homelite XLs at once.' That one was easy." :lol:


"Did that help?" :)

[bandits1]

"He said, 'Yes, but with practice, I have learned to wield two homelite XLs at once.' That one was easy." :lol:


"Did that help?" :)
Wow, Darkness, I didn't know you spoke gibberish. Nice to bilingual.

[Darkness]

Wow, Darkness, I didn't know you spoke gibberish. Nice to bilingual.

"Not gibberish, that's almost impossible. But I'm great at decoding typos." :lol:


"Back on topic, I may be able to get some good outdoor photos, of my blade collection, this summer." :)

"I might even include one with me, in one of my costume creations." ;-) :lol:

[homelitexl]

sorry bout that this computer doesnt always put what i type

[Dave Of The Dead]

I think we should have a picture thread of just all of us with out gear together. Then we can have a mall ninja witch hunt later for those who didn't post :lol:

As for Close Combat Weapons, I just put a rail and red dot scope on my Mossy 500 yesterday. Not exactly sure of the point, but I think it looks pretty bad ass.

[Onslaught]

Using melee weapons with your weak hand can be dangerous. Thats why I laugh at all the newbies that say they want to dual wield swords and shit. Unless your ambidextrous, I wouldn't recommend using anything meant to be used as a close combat weapon in your off hand. I have tried training myself with my pistol in my left hand but because I cut my trigger finger down to the bone last year and had to get some tendon reconstruction done, its still a little hand for me to pull the trigger without the hammer pulled back first.

I know what you mean, the DA pull on my little sig mosquito is ridiculous.
Offhand, it would be nearly useless. That's why I like my sriker-fired Steyr, I feel pretty comfortable with it in either hand. Although, getting to the holster with the left hand might be a bit tricky in a close combat scenario..

Picture thread would be hilarious. Everytime I even think about those I remember this pic of a guy with an E-tool stuck on the end of his 870 like a bayonet. maybe I'll take some pics this weekend. I'll be playing paintball anyway so I'll already be decked out in my multicam.

Don't feel bad, sometimes you just need more rails.

[kiltedninja]

Well, since I don't have my firearms in my possession, it would just be me with my backpack and machete/sword thing, my Ka-bar or CRKT, and my kilt, coat and LPC's.

Once I get my hands on a camera I'll post some pics of my gear all laid out.

As for shooting with your off hand, I shoot rifles better with my right hand, but I'm left handed. I'm working on shooting without sights, since I want to be able to shoot off-handed with my pistol too.

As for best CQC weapon, it depends on your specialty, I'm a fan of my knives, and blades, but I'd like to have a spear.

[hotlead]

Kiltedninja, are you right or left eye dominant?

If right eye dominant and left handed, you'd be more comfortable shooting a rifle just way you mentioned, without rolling your head over the stock.

[ZedHunter]

Well..I would use a sledge hammer, axe, shovel, bat and machete. Doesnt sound half bat to stock up on. :)

[Bob]

The problem is what to choose.
For some of us there is no way we can fit all our crap in a single picture much less carry or wear it.

[Dave Of The Dead]

The problem is what to choose.
For some of us there is no way we can fit all our crap in a single picture much less carry or wear it.

Pick out what you would carry and then keep the extras in the background. Thats what I'm going to do when I have the day off.

[homelitexl]

ive got a rather normal list of weapons but til i get a new camera i cant get pictures

aya 16 gauge side by side doube barrel shotgun
browning lever action 308.
new england arms single shot 223.
marlin 22. mag blot action
remington 870 magnum 12 guage
winchester 16 gauge pump action
2 homelite xls
homelite pro
bowie knife
baseball bat
double headed axe

[kiltedninja]

When I get my camera I'll post some pictures, but for now, I'll just say that I'd carry my machete/sword, the smaller counterpart, my Ka-Bar, My CRKT First Strike, and my baseball bat.

Well...maybe not the bat, but it'd be handy to have somehow. I'd really like to get a good pry bar.

[ZedHunter]

You better store some gas if youre going to have multiple chainsaws.

[Dave Of The Dead]

You better store some gas if youre going to have multiple chainsaws.

I guess you didn't know this, but Homelite's chainsaws run on his force powers.

[CityOfChicago]

I guess you didn't know this, but Homelite's chainsaws run on his force powers.

Jedi chainsaw?

Do we have a smiley for that?

[kiltedninja]

I'm pretty sure we don't, but someone should make one.
'Luke, this is your HomeliteXL, use it well':saw:

[homelitexl]

actually im tryin to do research and find a way to make a four stroke saw so i dont have to mix gas for it but yes i havea lot of gas nearby at all times for my saws.

[Bob]

Hey Homelite
Is this you and your dad cutting some logs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brfKKehFtmw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ereEhTuBlwA&feature=related

[Johnrchildsii]

I say the baseball bat... It is fast if you miss you can recover quickly. A machete I believe if you miss you are left vulnerable.

[kiltedninja]

If you're taking big wild swings with a machete yeah, you're screwed, but if you know what you're doing, you can transfer the momentum of a missed swing into another swing. In Kali they taught us never to stop moving our sticks.

In Aikido, we're taught the same. Never stop moving.

[homelitexl]

nope it aint me guys to chunky to be me and dont owwn a saw like that yet.

[mattifikation]

I read somewhere it has a Lincoln engine. I thought homelite hated Ford?

[homelitexl]

i do but i would build one with a chevy big block instead ford is a lousy brand no offense to anyone who owns one

[mattifikation]

I like the Mustangs, and that's it. And that's only because I know at least 3 girls that I'd chew through my own arm for a night in the hay with who've flat out said they'd let anyone with a Mustang fvck them.

I don't think having a Mustang engine powered chain saw would work quite as well unless... well, I better not get into that here...

[ZedHunter]

I like the Mustangs, and that's it. And that's only because I know at least 3 girls that I'd chew through my own arm for a night in the hay with who've flat out said they'd let anyone with a Mustang fvck them.

I don't think having a Mustang engine powered chain saw would work quite as well unless... well, I better not get into that here...Wow. Where do you find such easy, materialistic chicks?

[Darkness]

"Okay, let's leave the 'Chick Chat' to the Chat Lounge."

"Back to Close Combat Weapons now, please." ;-)

[mattifikation]

I found them ("them" being my close combat weapons) at Wal-Mart...

My, uh... close combat weapons may be simple and cheap... but they look good. And if you only need them for the night until you can pick up something more substantial, that's really all that matters.

[ZedHunter]

I would rely on a bat. They can break easily. I've seen an aluminum bat snap in 2 pieces during a baseball game. It was a high quality bat, too. Probably not the best choice.

[kiltedninja]

I'd use my bat if I had no other option, because I'm of the mind that my brass knuckles can't smash a skull, so they're for fighting a different kind of zombie.

Cheap, easy, good looking, sounds like you bought a Louisville Slugger Matt.

[homelitexl]

id use a 2x4 with nails through it

[Johnrchildsii]

I am talking Louisville slugger type bat. Made out of walnut or heart pine.

[homelitexl]

im talkin an oak 2x4

[Bob]

Actually a solid rough cut 2x4 would not be bad, if you shaved down the corners on one end to round it.
On the business end you could cut down the corners to make a sort of wedge.

Do you think the wedge shape would be superior to the corners and squarish shape?

[mattifikation]

Sounds like a cricket bat. :-P

[Bob]

Yup
Kinda of makes you wonder does it not?

[Dave Of The Dead]

Do you think the wedge shape would be superior to the corners and squarish shape?

A wedge would focus the energy and do more damage, but would also make the thing less sturdy.

[rogeneck]

i have no clue if it would be any good but what do you people thing of a ice pick-on-a-stick. altho i dont know if i could do enough damage to stop a zombie. an ice pick spear will have way more than enough power to go through there skull and if you need to you can use it to bash in there heads with the metal/wooden staff part.

[Dave Of The Dead]

i have no clue if it would be any good but what do you people thing of a ice pick-on-a-stick. altho i dont know if i could do enough damage to stop a zombie. an ice pick spear will have way more than enough power to go through there skull and if you need to you can use it to bash in there heads with the metal/wooden staff part.

It would be too clumsy of a weapon to be effective. You would lose power with such a long shaft as opposed to a short one also.

[kiltedninja]

Gandhi, I don't know how familiar you are with weapons like the Jo, but if you put an ice pick on a shaft that was say...four to five feet long, or a meter and a half if you're not American, than you'd have the control of a longer shaft, and the power of a shorter one.
Also, the Kusarigama that you speak so highly of would only be useful if you're extremely skilled with both ends of it. Even a steel weight on the end of a chain will bounce off a skull, even if it crushes the skull. In the event we're facing zombies like the ones in Romero's movies, that can use basic tools, you could lose your weapon if your chain was grabbed. Plus the scythe would be useful for almost solely decapitation, even then you're at arm's reach, and if the zombie had greater reach than you, you're screwed.

And then think of adrenaline. When all you've got in your arsenal are gross motor movements, a weapon that requires fine motor movements like the kusarigama would be useful in all but the most skilled hands. And against a live opponent, well let's just say that being hit with a chain isn't as painful as you think.

[homelitexl]

a 4x6would be a good choice

[rogeneck]

wait ninja your saying yes to the pick-on-on-a-stick right?

[Dave Of The Dead]

wait ninja your saying yes to the pick-on-on-a-stick right?

Looks like the exact opposite actually.

[CityOfChicago]

I still would favor a "club" over a "sword". Anything that can cut can get stuck. I'd hate to have 2, 3 or more around me and my machete or pick-on-a-stick gets stuck in someone. It's useless then.

[kiltedninja]

Looks like the exact opposite actually.

I'm saying that on the right length of stick, it might work if you know what you're doing other than that, your best bet is just a stick or spear. I'm going with a spear most likely.

[mattifikation]

It would be too clumsy of a weapon to be effective. You would lose power with such a long shaft as opposed to a short one also.

That's not what she said.

[Dave Of The Dead]

That's not what she said.

Nice :lol:

Wait, are we talking about an ice pick or an climbing pick?

[homelitexl]

a board with a big ass nail through it

[kiltedninja]

I'm just gonna get a big sharp stick and tape a knife to it for good measure.

[homelitexl]

simple is usually better.

[craigzombie11]

the best weapon that is close is a katana

[homelitexl]

i just ought a new machete

[mattifikation]

the best weapon that is close is a katana

I have a feeling that kiltedninja is going to verbally destroy you in a bit.

[Dave Of The Dead]

the best weapon that is close is a katana

NO! NO! NO! NO!
Please, put down the Zombie Survival Guide, stop quoting it, and forget anything you read from that book. Most of what is in there is bullshit. You'll find better conclusions around here every day than from Max Brooks' ridiculous theories.
Can I ask a question? Have you ever used a katana before? And if you have, have you ever used it against anything other than air?

[detpat]

a big ass with a nail through it.........uhhh.......i think i got that mixed up a bit!

[1337ZM613HN73R]

NO! NO! NO! NO!
Please, put down the Zombie Survival Guide, stop quoting it, and forget anything you read from that book. Most of what is in there is bullshit. You'll find better conclusions around here every day than from Max Brooks' ridiculous theories.
Can I ask a question? Have you ever used a katana before? And if you have, have you ever used it against anything other than air?

It's fun to read if you know it's bullshit though

[ZedHunter]

It's fun to read if you know it's bullshit thoughBut makes no sense to quote it if its bullshit. Hell, I'd rely on my 11" blade than a katana. I've used said blade for cutting and even using it as a machete [cut vines, high grass etc].

If you know how to use it, fine. If you try to sound smart and talk big by saying one thing is best for close combat, eh you'll fail miserably when actually needing it. But, what do I know? :lol:

[homelitexl]

me and a buddy of mmine are goin to forge our own weapons im gonna make me a trech knife and a big machete hes gonna make a claymore we might even sell part of what we make.

[Dave Of The Dead]

me and a buddy of mmine are goin to forge our own weapons im gonna make me a trech knife and a big machete hes gonna make a claymore we might even sell part of what we make.

Good luck. Me and a few guys have tried before and we couldn't even get a functional forge let alone and functional blade. Done go blow yourself up now!


Anyway, yes the ZSG is a fun read when you know that half the things he says about anything is complete bullshit. Only thing I saw that was in the least bit clever was the "destroy the stairs" part and a few of the strategies for attack. I used to think I knew it all after I read that thing a few times, but seriously, after handling a katana, a .22, and a few other weapons he recommends in that book, I have again read through the book and marked everything that is bull in red. Most of the pages are filled with ink and nobody wants to borrow my copy of the book anymore because of it. They say I ruined it and I say that I fixed it. So If you're going to come around here quoting that shit every day, then just stop posting and start reading what we have discussed because we have debunked most of that Max Brooks crap. Thank you and have a nice morning, I have to wake up for work soon.

[ZedHunter]

Tell 'em how it is Dave.
I personally never read it. I never read any "survival" type guide. Its better to practice than sit around and talking about it.

[CityOfChicago]

me and a buddy of mmine are goin to forge our own weapons im gonna make me a trech knife and a big machete hes gonna make a claymore we might even sell part of what we make.

Clearly, the issues run much deeper than spellcheck can solve.....

[ZedHunter]

The person above me couldn't be more right. :lol:
*I realize this is not that thread, it just seems appropriate*

[kiltedninja]

the best weapon that is close is a katana

Alright, Matt inspired me to call you a Fvckin idiot! If you've ever cut anything with a katana, you'd know that just chopping with it will destroy the blade. A katana is a WARRIORS WEAPON! It takes years and years of training to use it properly. I've taken a year of aikido and Iaido combined, and I've done over a hundred cuts with my katana, and I still don't trust myself to cut through a body with it. The only thing useful you could do with a katana is cut your own throat.

[detpat]

one thing to keep in mind is that for a battle sword, a Katana is fairly delicate! the edge is very easy to damage.

[kiltedninja]

Personally, I think the best CQC weapon is a Submachinegun of some sort.

Anyone ever fired an L85? I've always been a little curious about them.

[Bob]

Y'all are becoming less tolerant of BS every day and are starting to sound more like me.

Beware lest you be labeled a conservative...

[kiltedninja]

Conservative? That's me. I grew up around a bunch of old conservative men, workers and soldiers. It was bound to rub off on me some time.

[mattifikation]

I am often described by political meters as fiscally conservative and socially liberal, whatever that means.

[kiltedninja]

I don't know either.:lol:

The best Close Combat weapon is politics! You can confuse zombies until they're just like 'fvck this I'm gonna go die again.'

[Dave Of The Dead]

We found the sacred weapon! Daytime NPR!

[ZedHunter]

I've never listened to NPR, but I hear people talking about it.

My all time favorite close combat weapon is lefty and righty. :lol:

[homelitexl]

:lol::lol:I've never listened to NPR, but I hear people talking about it.

My all time favorite close combat weapon is lefty and righty. :lol:

yoUR goin to hit them with your nuts:lol:

[rogeneck]

:lol::lol:

yoUR goin to hit them with your nuts:lol:

no hes groin to hit them with his nuts.

lol pun

[homelitexl]

fir ince someone else got the joke:lol:

[Dave Of The Dead]

I carry the Gerber EVO and sometimes EVO Jr. to work everyday to cut open boxes of bread and lettuce and chicken and shit. Very nice blade and keeps an edge like a mother ****er. The blade come out really smooth. My co-worker turned me on to them. She left hers in the snow all winter and even ran over it a couple times all by accident and it still works great. The blade doesn't release as well any more, but hell after all that something had to be wrong with it. Anyway, this knife wouldn't be so much as a first choice weapon for me, but its a great tool and might do well if it were a last ditch effort to save your life.

[hotlead]

I am often described by political meters as fiscally conservative and socially liberal, whatever that means.

I think that means they're putting you in line with the Founding Fathers.

[kiltedninja]

Well from what I understand, Matt knows whats up, but he doesn't think like a liberal who seems to think that everything and it's dog should be illegal, except the stupid shit.

[Made]

The Machette. A sharp one can cut trought every zombie like a knife cut trought butter:) Easy to get out if they sorround you.

[CAVU45]

Most machettes that I've seen were made for cutting through tall grasses and vines, not human necks.

[Made]

If you get a strong machette you will cut trought a body, stainless steel or something:)

[homelitexl]

made forget the machte look into chainsaws much beyyer

[slayer1222]

made forget the machte look into chainsaws much beyyer

no there not ffs

a chainsaw takes petrol to run you are not gonna have alot of that about

a chainsaw is heavy as hell so to carry a chainsaw and enough petrol all day is almost physically impossible

they spray zombie infected bits everywhere

they can kick and kill you

now that is 4 off the top of my head and i am a child of 12 if i no this you should by now as a would assume you are a adult by now

[Behind The Mask]

I am conflicted between either a machete or a more blunt object (sledgehammer)

While a machete is more versatile, easier to come by and probably much easier to handle, it also carries with it the risk of injury (to either ones self or a comrade) should it be swung carelessly or even in a frantic moment.

However, a weapon such as a sledgehammer holds with it advantages and disadvantages. Though the weapon is heavy, and a poor swing can off balance the user, one could conclude that a blow from a sledgehammer results in less blood sent about, meaning less chance of infection.

Given a choice, I would carry a machete given its easy use and versatility, however, I suppose if that is not available a sledgehammer would make a good weapon.

[CAVU45]

If you get a strong machette you will cut trought a body, stainless steel or something:)

That's one I'd like to see. Know where they can be bought?

[bandits1]

Most machettes that I've seen were made for cutting through tall grasses and vines, not human necks.
Not this one:

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5195/urbanbonemachetemark32.jpg
...the Urban Bone Machete, Mark III from Zombie Tools (http://zombietools.net/tools/).

[CAVU45]

I'd like to see one of those demonstrated. Damned steep price also.

[Dave Of The Dead]

Not this one:

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5195/urbanbonemachetemark32.jpg
...the Urban Bone Machete, Mark III from Zombie Tools (http://zombietools.net/tools/).

Oh when did they start coming out with new models? I would love to own one of their machetes, but cheaper ones are out there that are just as durable.

[kiltedninja]

Plus Dave, you've got your Kukris, I think you're set.

I decided that instead of going for a machete or tomahawk, I'll get a kukri, since it's kind of like a combination of the two.

[Dave Of The Dead]

Plus Dave, you've got your Kukris, I think you're set.

I decided that instead of going for a machete or tomahawk, I'll get a kukri, since it's kind of like a combination of the two.

Very true. I'm sure you'll fall in love with them like I have.

[kiltedninja]

I already love them man, and I've only ever held them. I'm sure that as soon as I have one to go and chop shit up with, I'll be sold.

[bandits1]

Oh when did they start coming out with new models? I would love to own one of their machetes, but cheaper ones are out there that are just as durable.
True, but paying $335.95 for a machete is like buying a $400,000 car, you know you're not necessarilly paying for extra durability. You're paying for the "custom" aspect and unique look.


Thus I present the Extrema Ratio KL/KS/KH:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4715/kukritestudo.jpg
...about $340-$450.

[Made]

no there not ffs

a chainsaw takes petrol to run you are not gonna have alot of that about

a chainsaw is heavy as hell so to carry a chainsaw and enough petrol all day is almost physically impossible

they spray zombie infected bits everywhere

they can kick and kill you

now that is 4 off the top of my head and i am a child of 12 if i no this you should by now as a would assume you are a adult by now

Yeah, thats right

[Made]

But if you cant find a strong machette, you can always go buy a katana:)

[hotlead]

no there not ffs

a chainsaw takes petrol to run you are not gonna have alot of that about

a chainsaw is heavy as hell so to carry a chainsaw and enough petrol all day is almost physically impossible

they spray zombie infected bits everywhere

they can kick and kill you

now that is 4 off the top of my head and i am a child of 12 if i no this you should by now as a would assume you are a adult by now

Well, here in the States, we have lumberjacks, loggers, and wildland firefighters that run 36" chainsaws all day. Mine is an Echo with an 39cc motor and an 18" bar and it only weighs 10lbs, I was swinging it all day just yesterday, and I'm not much of an olympian.

You're right about not having mixed gas and chain oil laying all over, and about zombie chunks flying around.

For years chainsaws have had chain-brakes in front of the off hand handle that will stop the chain if the saw bucks back at you, making them much safer, but they are still a little dangerous to use on bad guys in general.

The weight to effectiveness ratio is way off on chainsaws, making them silly to use while fighting zombies, but they are a lot of fun.

[kiltedninja]

But if you cant find a strong machette, you can always go buy a katana:)

You could, or you could make a custom machete.

I'd recommend a saber if you're gonna look at a sword. The edges are more designed for chopping than the razor edge of the katana. Trust me, I know all about that edge, and I have scars to prove it.

[Bob]

12 years old?
I wish there was a way to know how old y'all are.
I might say a bad word and your mommy find out.
Then I would be in deep doo doo.
We live in a PC world guys.

I believe in protecting wimmin and chilluns but I have to know they are such.
Otherwise they are as at risk as the rest of you.
On the internet no one knows you are a dog.

[detpat]

remember that toy katanas don't have the same edges that real ones have. real ones are actually pretty delicate in some ways. the untrained are gonna damage real ones pretty quickly. I've seen many katanas, both real, fake and military issue [machine made blades, shin-gunto etc] that have been catastrophically screwed up by momentary idiocy.

Western Battle swords are designed for different things, much more common steel armor for one thing. much stronger armor too.

[Frallon]

12 years old?
I wish there was a way to know how old y'all are.

Is that a thread, bc that might prove useful information when ppl start bickering :lol:

[kiltedninja]

Yeah, there's a thread for that in the Chat Lounge.

That's what I've been saying Bandits, but the folks here don't seem to understand that.

[homelitexl]

chainsaws a prfect the way i got them anyway and even a etard ckan run one

[Frallon]

chainsaws a prfect the way i got them anyway and even a etard ckan run one

Very true, anyone can run one over the age of 6, but really i'd take a bat over a chainsaw. Bat's are lighter, more aerodynamic, and frees up a lot of moving space that a chainsaw would fail at.

[kiltedninja]

I've got options for a bludgeon. Baseball Bat, bokken or jo staff. I'd probably take the baseball bat though.

[homelitexl]

chainsaws all the way

[Dave Of The Dead]

chainsaws all the way

We know. I'm pretty sure you state that in every post.

[Frallon]

We know. I'm pretty sure you state that in every post.

lmao, that's just good tv

[Bob]

Close combat?

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5360/mewmarker.jpg

[slayer1222]

chainsaws all the way

if zday ever comes you are so ****ed

[CAVU45]

Close combat?

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5360/mewmarker.jpg

Why do I get the feeling that wouldn't work in the real world?

[Onslaught]

Close combat?

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5360/mewmarker.jpg

automags are great.

[Darkness]

"That belongs in a Gun Thread, not this thread." :naughty:

[detpat]

it's not a gun..........just sayin. course it's not a weapon either.

[Trumble0]

Maybe if it was filled with steely marbles... then I might use a paintball gun but Id have the velocity turned WAY up...

[Darkness]

"If it's a paintball gun, then it belongs in here....."
http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16085
".......with the rest of the Paintball Gun Discussion." ;-)

[Dave Of The Dead]

Maybe if it was filled with steely marbles... then I might use a paintball gun but Id have the velocity turned WAY up...

Remember, on a paintball marker, there is one small pin standing between you and that air compressed, spring loaded bolt. I think I'll play it safe and keep my paintball gun at home. Don't want to be walking around the ZPAW with the bolt of a Tippman where my eye used to be.

[Stankynuts]

If you own a machete, I would hope that you know how to take care of one. Just like cleaning a gun is essential for the gun to work well, sharpening and polishing a blade is essential for it to keep in perfect cutting condition.

insnt that a bit obvious?

[kiltedninja]

You'd be surprised at how many people don't know that stanky.

[Dave Of The Dead]

insnt that a bit obvious?

To some people, no.

[Salty Nuts]

Why not a crowbar? It even has practical uses, like forcing doors and crates open.

[Dave Of The Dead]

Why not a crowbar? It even has practical uses, like forcing doors and crates open.

Do you really think you can pry open a locked door with a crowbar? How many crates do you see yourself opening in the ZPAW? If you really think its that practical, list every use you can think of and the try to imagine a situation during the apocalypse where you would need a crowbar to do that.

[Salty Nuts]

Do you really think you can pry open a locked door with a crowbar?

Possibly. Maybe a jammed door or two as well.

How many crates do you see yourself opening in the ZPAW?

Possibly dozens. Gathering supplies, and all that.

If you really think its that practical, list every use you can think of and the try to imagine a situation during the apocalypse where you would need a crowbar to do that.

Prying locked or jammed doors open to find supplies/shelter
Prying crates open to get supplies
Prying loose lumber/metal grates off of buildings to use as part of a barricade
And it's not like it has a blade that can get dull, or a barrel that can rust.

[Dave Of The Dead]

Its very doubtful that a crowbar can pry open a locked door. A Jammed door, possibly, but no a locked one. Not a lot of things come in crates anymore. Most everything just comes on pallets shrink wrapped together. And when It comes to prying lumber and metal secured to buildings or whatever, why not just use a claw hammer or screw driver? Both lighter than a normal crow bar and make less noise than forcing something off with a crowbar. And no, there is no blade to dull and nothing to oil and clean, but the whole thing can and will rust eventually. Last year I snapped a rusted crowbar in half when trying to get my frozen car door open. As a weapon, its clumsy. There is no real grip to it, its off balance, and will get very messy. But if you want to carry one, go ahead.

[Stankynuts]

Its very doubtful that a crowbar can pry open a locked door. A Jammed door, possibly, but no a locked one. Not a lot of things come in crates anymore. Most everything just comes on pallets shrink wrapped together. And when It comes to prying lumber and metal secured to buildings or whatever, why not just use a claw hammer or screw driver? Both lighter than a normal crow bar and make less noise than forcing something off with a crowbar. And no, there is no blade to dull and nothing to oil and clean, but the whole thing can and will rust eventually. Last year I snapped a rusted crowbar in half when trying to get my frozen car door open. As a weapon, its clumsy. There is no real grip to it, its off balance, and will get very messy. But if you want to carry one, go ahead.

God damn patrick you got pwned.

[Dave Of The Dead]

God damn patrick you got pwned.

I wasn't trying to bust his chops too bad. Just wanted to point out that a crowbar isn't as much of a wonder tool that everyone tends to think of it as.

[Stankynuts]

I wasn't trying to bust his chops too bad. Just wanted to point out that a crowbar isn't as much of a wonder tool that everyone tends to think of it as.

It isnt any wonder tool but it still is a useful ite to carry with you, ya know?

[Frallon]

It isnt any wonder tool but it still is a useful ite to carry with you, ya know?

Wouldnt u be better off with a three head hatchet? You know, Hammer at the back, blade at the front, crowbar head on the top
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3611/3400108408_9ef607fb05.jpg?v=0
we have one like this, a lot better shape, n i always thought it could b useful.

[Darkness]

Wouldnt u be better off with a three head hatchet? You know, Hammer at the back, blade at the front, crowbar head on the top
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3611/3400108408_9ef607fb05.jpg?v=0
we have one like this, a lot better shape, n i always thought it could b useful.

"I like that one." :clap:

"Can you get them at any hardware store, or do you need to go to a specialty shop of some kind?" :think:

[Trumble0]

IDK, I always thought a crowbar would be awesome too... but I think it was because I had played too much Half-Life. I think I'd much rather have a Good Hatchet or Tactical Tomahawk instead, I really can't think of anything practical in a ZPAW that a crowbar can do that a hatchet can't... If a door is metal chances are you couldnt pry it open with a crowbar anyway.

[Frallon]

"Can you get them at any hardware store, or do you need to go to a specialty shop of some kind?" :think:

We got ours at a liquidation store, pretty cheap, but it's all really nice steel and it's reliable as all hell.

[hotlead]

"I like that one." :clap:

"Can you get them at any hardware store, or do you need to go to a specialty shop of some kind?" :think:

It's a roofing hatchet, available were roofing supplies are sold.

[Stankynuts]

Check these two weapons out

http://www.coldsteel.com/indianwarclub.html

http://www.coldsteel.com/gunstockwarclub.html

Considering im a proud Iroquois I am particularly fond of the war club.

[Frallon]

It's a roofing hatchet, available were roofing supplies are sold.

Rly, wow, my hats off to u; i didnt know that

[Darkness]

It's a roofing hatchet, available were roofing supplies are sold.

"Thank you, and I'm not kidding, I really want one of those. About how much would one cost, on an average?"

[Trumble0]

"Thank you, and I'm not kidding, I really want one of those. About how much would one cost, on an average?"

http://www.patriotsurplus.com/Survival-Hatchet-p1985159.html

$8.95 :lol:

Or 2 for $9 on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/Survival-Hatchet-Hammer---New---2-of-them_W0QQitemZ290293693599QQcmdZViewItem

[Frallon]

Told ya cheap
:)

[Darkness]

"WAY COOL!" :drinking:

[bandits1]

God damn patrick you got pwned.
Dave was just giving his opinon - doesn't mean that he's 100% right or wrong. Personally, I would carry a crowbar/prybar/wrecking bar if space allowed. Not so much as a weapon, but just to have one around. Even those that say it's an unnecessary item, if they happened to have one, I guarantee they'd eventually use it. It may even save their lives at some point.

[Dave Of The Dead]

Dave was just giving his opinon - doesn't mean that he's 100% right or wrong. Personally, I would carry a crowbar/prybar/wrecking bar if space allowed. Not so much as a weapon, but just to have one around. Even those that say it's an unnecessary item, if they happened to have one, I guarantee they'd eventually use it. It may even save their lives at some point.

Totally. I'm not at all saying it would be useless, but the opportunities to use a crowbar would be few. I'm discounting it as a weapon though, because I carried one at a zombie walk and dropped it many times after getting fake blood all over it. Those ****ers are heavy too.

[bandits1]

Totally. I'm not at all saying it would be useless, but the opportunities to use a crowbar would be few. I'm discounting it as a weapon though, because I carried one at a zombie walk and dropped it many times after getting fake blood all over it. Those ****ers are heavy too.
Was it a full-size wrecking bar? Yeah, those are pretty heavy, but I might opt to carry one if I had means of transportation besides walking.


Actually, I was talking more about smaller prybars, like this:

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9610/00002809.jpg

[Trumble0]

If I was gonna swing a crowbar/wrecking bar as a weapon, I'd definitely want gloves, to keep a grip on it... and to Pad my hands. I used a wrecking bar to break apart pressure treated picnic tables and had to persuade some boards/nails to loosen enough for me to pry... let me tell you when you swing a crowbar at something that doesn't give it sends shockwaves through your arms

[bandits1]

If I was gonna swing a crowbar/wrecking bar as a weapon, I'd definitely want gloves, to keep a grip on it... and to Pad my hands. I used a wrecking bar to break apart pressure treated picnic tables and had to persuade some boards/nails to loosen enough for me to pry... let me tell you when you swing a crowbar at something that doesn't give it sends shockwaves through your arms
Yup, I once swung a big wrecking bar at a tile wall we were breaking down. One hard hit and I was off to find a sledge-hammer...once I regained feeling in my hands and picked up all of my fillings off the ground.

Nothing beats using the right tool for the job.

[kiltedninja]

When we were renovating at my grandpa's house, we used some sledge hammers, and a couple of times, my brother and I would see who could punch a bigger hole in the wall, but yeah, Pry bars weren't the tool for the job, until we were pulling nails out.

[Bob]

Can y'all straight arm a sledge hammer?

[homelitexl]

:lol:depending on the wieght it could be done i think bob is this one of your trapsto show everyone how dumb the noobs are

[hotlead]

We have a 25lb "fine adjusting tool", we call Thor, for lining up and placing red iron and other heavy stuff. One time we had an FNG on the job and we told him to take out a section of block wall that was in the way of the next days work.

We layed out the size and location for him, put out a rotohammer and a 35lb electric jackhammer, and we expected him to drill out the corners and a few along the lines, then chip it out with the jackhammer. Instead we see him an hour later trying to swing Thor overhead and sideways, on the unprepared section of wall, just making dents because he couldn't get enough force behind his swings. He was too sore to work the next two days.

I don't know what the purpose of this story is, maybe just a lesson in using the right tool for the job, and using the tools you have properly.

By the way, we generally swing Thor like a golf club to set materials, we have some smaller 18lb and 12lb hammers for swinging overhead.

[Trumble0]

... we have some smaller 18lb and 12lb hammers for swinging overhead.

I had a 12 pound sledge break at work one time. I was trying to break A Thick cylinder of Concrete off a Lightpost base, the handle broke when I made contact or right before. Because the head bounced off the concrete and hit me square in the shoulder when I was hunched down after the follow through, I was sore for a couple days :lol:

After that I made my boss get a Hickory Handle for it.

[hotlead]

I sure wouldn't want to swing a 18lb and up hammer with a wood handle of any sort, we have fiberglass handles on all of our hammers.

[Stankynuts]

I sure wouldn't want to swing a 18lb and up hammer with a wood handle of any sort, we have fiberglass handles on all of our hammers.

lol i think everyone agrees on that

[Bob]

Well I don't know about doing it with a 25 lb sledge but it's not all that hard to do with a ten pound.
Just make sure you are prepared to get your face out the way.

[Trumble0]

Well I don't know about doing it with a 25 lb sledge but it's not all that hard to do with a ten pound.
Just make sure you are prepared to get your face out the way.

Talking about straight arming it. Do you mean John Henry Style?:lol:

http://lazylaurel.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/sledgehammer.jpg

[Darkness]

Talking about straight arming it. Do you mean John Henry Style?:lol:

http://lazylaurel.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/sledgehammer.jpg

"That's what came to my mind too. But I had pictured it using one hand, not two." :think:





"And, just for the record, I use to have fun at 'Car Bashes', where you pay a couple of dollars, to beat up a car with a sledgehammer, for a minute or two." :evil:

"Except, they kept trying to hand me the small sledgehammer, when I wanted the big one. I usually got it, because they thought it would be funny to watch me try and use it.........." :roll:

"..........then I showed them I could really swing it, and they stopped laughing." :evil: :drinking:

[kiltedninja]

If that's straight arming a sledgehammer, then yes, I can do that.

We have car-bashes every year for our homecoming football games at school, we paint the name of the opposing school team on the car, and bash the shit out of it with a sledge hammer. Those were fun.