Body Protection

[ZEDcommand004]

http://christianburns.wordpress.com/2007/02/19/trojan-suit-full-body-armor-failed-to-sell-on-ebay/

this is the website i was looking at saw it... the person who made the suit made a grizzly bear suit too!

[bandits1]

Lol. I saw the video about that POS. So much useless, but amusing, crap on it. By the time you actually got suited up and ready to roll, the zombie crisis would already be over...so I guess in a way it would work.

Props to the guy for actually making it, though.

[Dave Of The Dead]

This is the exact reason why nobody will ever take this kid seriously. Who the **** do you think you are? Spartan 117?

[ZEDcommand004]

no that suit is suppose to be for riot control and can is bullet proof from point blank up to a shotgun!

[kiltedninja]

The reason the military and police aren't using it are the ones I mentioned. Plus it's probably about 3 billion dollars.

[ZEDcommand004]

he was selling the it for 35000 dollars online and it only weighs 30 pounds!

[kiltedninja]

Okay, 35g's, multiply that by even just a thousand, it's 35 million dollars. The average annual cost for a deployed soldier is around 390 thousand dollars a year, without another 35 grand on there.

It's probably ridiculously cumbersome, otherwise show me video proof of otherwise.

[Dave Of The Dead]

I am going to build a giant suit of armor that is 10x my size and put pneumatic actuators that move the armor to my exact movements as I sit inside and munch on cheetos while stomping on the zombies beneath my size 44 iron boots of steel!
It will all be constructed from shit that I steal from Subway....

[Sammo909]

Did no one else notice that the suit had fingerless gloves? Even if a horde of Zeds didn't tear the guy apart, one bite and he's a well-dressed corpse.

[mattifikation]

Mall Ninja wants Trojan Armor. Typical. Dude, the only Trojan you need to worry about is the kind that saves the world from a smaller version of you running around.

[JakAttak]

a kevlar vest would be nice just in case of hostile or clumsy gunman.

[Dave Of The Dead]

Ever see the Grindhouse movie Planet Terror? Remember the scene where the sheriff stumbles through the door screaming "I knew one of you mother****ers would shoot me!" as he clasps his neck and the deputy apologizes repeatedly? I think I would wear a collar to prevent that. Like a light metal one like the samurai would wear to keep from getting their heads cut off as a trophy. I'm already comfortable wearing the one I have now, why not get one with a little more "umph!" right? It might deflect, slow, stop a bullet and then again it might not... But I would rather have one and find out than not have one and wish I could have taken the chance.

[rogeneck]

if it doesn't stop that bullet the you have a pice of metal the size of your thumb in your neck. if by so chance of god you dont die right away your going to die of a collapsed windpipe. i would rather stick with being shot in the neck and either dieing or havin it pass through and not touch any thing.

another thing is if its metal and it gets shot except shrapnel.

[CAVU45]

a kevlar vest would be nice just in case of hostile or clumsy gunman.

To make a kevlar vest truly worthwhile you'd need the SAPI front and back. Those things weren't made with quick movement in mind.

[JakAttak]

swat dudes seem pretty quick

[CAVU45]

swat dudes seem pretty quick

They aren't wearing the stuff for hours on end while walking for miles upon miles either. Short sprints are about it with the armor on.
Plus, I don't know if it's the same type the military wears. That heavy OTV with the SAPI gets mighty heavy after a few hours. Add your kit to it (ammo and such) and the thing can weigh upwards of 50 pounds. It particularly hits you in the lower back.

[kiltedninja]

I've worn full SWAT riot gear, and without your kit in it, it's not heavy, nor is it like the stuff the military wears.

[CAVU45]

It won't stop a rifle round either. That's where the SAPI comes in.

[SuperJuggernaut13]

I would choose chainmail as well. You could wear a sleeveless shirt underneath it and since chainmail is breathable metal mesh you could play your cards right and watch how you travel. Take breaks in the shade of trees or wait for that crisp cool breeze to flow through the meshyness. All armor has its burdens but when it comes down to it and your in a safe house you can take it off until you get ready to head out again :roll:

[kiltedninja]

I'd like to choose to protect my striking tools(fists, elbows, knees and shins) as well as the important bits(my manly bits and head) at all times, but I'd especially protect my chest and neck when I know I'm going on the offensive.

[J Dub]

if this armor is just for protection from bites and scratching of the undead. i'd go with good ol fashioned cow hide, heavy stuff 12oz or higher. those bastiages would chew for days before getting through.
but kevlar would do in a pinch if it was easy to find.

[kiltedninja]

Yeah, thick leather is your best bet. Deerskin isn't as tough as cowhide, but it is pretty good as well.

[bandits1]

I'd like to choose to protect my striking tools(fists, elbows, knees and shins) as well as the important bits(my manly bits and head) at all times, but I'd especially protect my chest and neck when I know I'm going on the offensive.
You plan on punching and kicking zombies?

[mattifikation]

You never know what you might have to resort to.

[ZombieBruce]

multiple layers of duck tape would be good in an emergency you cant tear that shit up with your teeth!

[kiltedninja]

You plan on punching and kicking zombies?

Ever seen a Muay Thai fighter collapse someone's cheekbone with their elbow? I've seen someone totally destroy an arm with a kick, punches would only be a last resort, but I've still got six striking points aside from those. I do Muay Thai if you haven't gathered that yet.

[neoanderson9318]

I would go for some good ol'-fashion jeans and leather jacket over some another layer of clothes. I would go for leather or kevlar gloves, millitary-issue combat boots, and a full-faced motorcycle helmet. :lol: But I would need something to cover my neck still, any suggestions?

[bandits1]

Ever seen a Muay Thai fighter collapse someone's cheekbone with their elbow? I've seen someone totally destroy an arm with a kick, punches would only be a last resort, but I've still got six striking points aside from those. I do Muay Thai if you haven't gathered that yet.
Ever seen a hungry zombie bite someone who tried to collapse his cheekbone with their elbow?

How long have you been taking muay thai? You're just a beginner, right?

[the_velociraptor]

What's an effective guard for the neck? I mean, it's easy to armor up the limbs, but not the neck, outside of an awkward bomb suit, chain mail, or suit of armor.

[Darkness]

"Gorgets are good for protecting the neck." :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorget

[neoanderson9318]

Awesome! Thanks! Now my anti-zombie uniform is complete! :)

[Dave Of The Dead]

All the collars on my jackets and coats come well above my chin. My wool "Boondocks Saints" coat that I plan to wear (because it's thick, warm, and very well padded) zips all the way up to the mouth and then buttons over that. I feel I'd have pretty good neck protection with that thing. I'll post pictures sometime when I dig the thing out of my dorm closet.

[neoanderson9318]

Wow.. Well unfortunately, I don't have a "Boondock Saints" coat... SO I'll just have to go with the gorget...

[Dave Of The Dead]

Wow.. Well unfortunately, I don't have a "Boondock Saints" coat... SO I'll just have to go with the gorget...

That's just what I call it because some people think it looks like its from that movie.

Anyway, most biker jackets now and other thicket winter coats cover and button over the neck. Burlington Coat Factory anyone? :lol:

Also, samurai used to wear iron collars to keep from getting their head taken as a trophy. You could always make an aluminum version for more comfort and protection. Remember, leather and cloth might protect against a bite. But if you get slammed in the throat and your hyoid gets broken, that's death right there.

[neoanderson9318]

Yeah, good thought. I'll hafta see if I can find some spare stuff around the farm to make a neck guard with. I'll upload pics if I do. It might be a while though.

[Amazonian]

I would wear a Neptunic Waterman Pro shark suit. It can be worn completely or in layers (arms, legs, chest). It is light weight and makes it easy for you to move. It's a blend of wetsuit and shark bite material. You can also just get just the separate pieces including gloves, waders and sleeves.

[neoanderson9318]

Hm... Interesting. I never thought of a shark-bite suit. Good call.


Do the have...um...neck pieces. :)

[bandits1]

I would wear a Neptunic Waterman Pro shark suit. It can be worn completely or in layers (arms, legs, chest). It is light weight and makes it easy for you to move. It's a blend of wetsuit and shark bite material. You can also just get just the separate pieces including gloves, waders and sleeves.
Is this the suit you're talking about?

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6672/mbnsuitnarrowweb300x481.jpg
...nice.

[neoanderson9318]

Is this the suit you're talking about?

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6672/mbnsuitnarrowweb300x481.jpg
...nice.
Not bad at all...

[mattifikation]

I didn't know they made shark bite suits. How does a suit stop giant teeth and jaws the size of furniture?

...Especially a suit thin enough that you can make out the nipples of the hot, hot babe wearing it...?

[neoanderson9318]

I didn't know they made shark bite suits. How does a suit stop giant teeth and jaws the size of furniture?

...Especially a suit thin enough that you can make out the nipples of the hot, hot babe wearing it...?
My...um...second thought exactly. :)

[the_velociraptor]

The shark bite suit appears to have been made for smaller sharks.

[hotlead]

I didn't know they made shark bite suits. How does a suit stop giant teeth and jaws the size of furniture?

...Especially a suit thin enough that you can make out the nipples of the hot, hot babe wearing it...?

Have her come over to my house with that suit on, I'll chew through it and tell you how well it works.

I'll have to put on some Barry White though, that's my normal shark bite suit chewin' music.

[the_velociraptor]

"Gorgets are good for protecting the neck." :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorget

Pretty rare, though.

(At least, I dunno if I'd find one in America... outside of a museum.)

[Darkness]

"I can MAKE them, the_velociraptor, it's not that hard, and patterns can be found online." ;-)



"Or go to your nearest SCA Faire." :lol:

[homelitexl]

one tWo ideas a pinstripesuit with aww2 gas mask and a fedoro or a butchers apron and a hockey mask

[bandits1]

...or head down to your nearest sporting goods store and buy a cut-resistant nylon neck protector that they use in hockey. Easier.

[Darkness]

"Good one, Bandit. Thanks." :)

[the_velociraptor]

...or head down to your nearest sporting goods store and buy a cut-resistant nylon neck protector that they use in hockey. Easier.

Much better. :doh:

[kiltedninja]

Ever seen a hungry zombie bite someone who tried to collapse his cheekbone with their elbow?

How long have you been taking muay thai? You're just a beginner, right?

I've been in for a month, but I've also been training for three times as long per day than everyone else. With any luck, zombies won't come a munchin for my fleshy goodness before I've been training before a couple years.

And I'm not gonna be going for the cheekbone, I was just presenting that because it's what I saw. I'd hit the neck or occipital lobe, or send my kicks towards the knees.

In all realism though, I'd go with something that allows freedom of movement over protection, since I'll not actually be trying to smash the bones of our flesh loving friends, but rather escaping to somewhere safe. I'd only use H2H if one of the smarter 'zombies' was trying to take me out.

[Bob]

Not my type.
Don't get me wrong, she would probably cause me to have a stroke but...

[neoanderson9318]

...or head down to your nearest sporting goods store and buy a cut-resistant nylon neck protector that they use in hockey. Easier.
Wow. I never thought of that either. I'm'a go out and buy one later... Just in case... ;)

[homelitexl]

im gtonna look like a damn phsyco come z-day who else wiill look like al capone in a gas mask with a sawd off and a chainsaw

[mattifikation]

Protective sports gear is probably the way to go. I don't know crap about sports or the gear involved though.

[kiltedninja]

Wasn't it Dave that said that we'd probably all end up looking like Mad Max extras?

Where is that Dave guy anyway?

[Darkness]

"Dave is busy getting settled into College, right now. But he will be back soon." :)

[Bob]

Dave who???

[Darkness]

"Dave of The Dead."

[neoanderson9318]

im gtonna look like a damn phsyco come z-day who else wiill look like al capone in a gas mask with a sawd off and a chainsaw
Oh, no, no, no... You wouldn't want a chainsaw. And even the sawed-off, that's not THAT good of a weapon choice...

[kiltedninja]

Oh, no, no, no... You wouldn't want a chainsaw. And even the sawed-off, that's not THAT good of a weapon choice...

Neo, We've already tried, you won't get through to him any better than the rest of us.

[neoanderson9318]

Okay. Thanks for the advice. I was just trying. I guess I just won't try anymore. :)

[homelitexl]

yeah dude dont bother trying to turn me im gonna use what i want ot i love my shotgun and my chainsaw.

[kiltedninja]

I wasn't trying to defend you Homelite, I was trying to save him a few dozen wasted brain cells.

[Bob]

There was someone here named Dave of the Dead?
**Just Kidding**

[kiltedninja]

Bob...you fail.:lol:

[Bob]

I will do better next time.
Bobs daughter is coming to see him this weekend all the way from MA.
How old do you think the Grandsons need to be before I give them Shootin Irons.

[neoanderson9318]

I will do better next time.
Bobs daughter is coming to see him this weekend all the way from MA.
How old do you think the Grandsons need to be before I give them Shootin Irons.
Hm... 5. :)

[Bob]

Their mom thinks at least 13, I was thinking 10.
But I guess I will go with what she says.

[hotlead]

The Boy Scouts start shooting .22lr at 10, it's where I got my start and where my youngins will get theirs.

I think 10 is a good place to start, depending on the kid.

[rogeneck]

i think i was eight when i shoot for my first time but it wasent like i could just go around shooting things in the middle of the night. it was rather supervised. I dont think you should ever "give" a kid a gun.

[Darkness]

"Time to get this thread back on Topic, guys." :naughty:

[DarthJoe8]

Sorry Darkness just one more thing...:)

Their mom thinks at least 13, I was thinking 10.
But I guess I will go with what she says.

Seven states — Alabama, Arkansas, Indiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Vermont and Washington — set no minimum age for solo hunting. In Texas, kids can hunt alone when they are 9. In Alaska, Louisiana and Tennessee, the minimum age for unsupervised hunting is 10, in Missouri it’s 11, and in nine other states it’s 12.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31952727/ns/us_news-life/

As a hunter I find this to be insane... :loon:

I'm all for using some form of body protection. :drinking: A nice balance between protection and being functional...:think:

:drinking:

[the_velociraptor]

The Boy Scouts start shooting .22lr at 10, it's where I got my start and where my youngins will get theirs.

I think 10 is a good place to start, depending on the kid.

.22LRs are pretty good, though you have the concerns for its ability to pierce a human skull.

[Darkness]

"Please take the Gun Talk to either, the Gun Topic Threads, or the ATZ Gun Club Social Group. This thread is about Body Protection, as in clothing." ;-)

[kiltedninja]

I'd have to convince my gf to wear more clothing than she usually does, because it's starting to get colder, and while in the summer it's okay to run around mostly naked, when the undead are chasing you about, its a different story.

[homelitexl]

yeah dude my ex had that problem anyhow im gonna look cool in the zpaw

[mattifikation]

...Doubtful.

[the_velociraptor]

I know it's stupid, but wearing a motorcycle helmet protects from face-spatter if the blood's still fresh. Plus, you can stuff a wet rag underneath in case of sudden ash or air polluting-whatnot.

(Plus, it looks cool, but, eh.)

[Sammo909]

How badly does a motorbike helmet muffle sound? Protecting from splatter is great, but if it stops you hearing the Zed that's about to sink it's jaws into your shoulder it's not worth it.

[ZombieAddict33]

tight skater jeans and underarmour compression tee. over that ill have a leather jacket and chaps with steel toe combat boots. maybe even leather gloves with spikes for use in tight spots

[homelitexl]

my pinstripe suit a nazi gas mask my fedora my homelite pro
two homelite xls my browing 308. and my db shotgun nuff said

[Bob]

My body protection is going to be a pair of jeans and a jacket.
Oh yea boots too.
I don't plan on letting them get close enough to need any more.

I am going to put Tallahassee to shame.
I am going to take an army to hell with me.
Oh wait, is it a sin to kill zombies?

[mattifikation]

They're already dead. The bible says "Thou shalt not kill," not "Thou shalt not deanimate."

[Darkness]

"Let's keep the Bible out of this, please." :naughty:

[mattifikation]

Hard to answer Bob's question if I do that...

But for the sake of the topic, I like the idea of just going with an underarmor shirt and some tight jeans. Just not too tight. I like my nuts more than that.

[Noc]

Tight jeans can cause sterilisation, that's not gunna be helpful when we have to repopulate the earth. :D Sorry Darkness.

Jeans, t-shirt, heavy knit jumper, footy socks, adidas superstars. That's about as protective as I can get. Oh and a Camelbak:)

[lakewalker]

Phew I just finished reading this thread over the last couple of days and figured I'd have a go at my kit...I'm from Canada so my choices are what is readily available to me.

Base Layer - Bauer Cut Resistant one piece (http://www.bauer.com/gear/accessories/baselayer/1489-BAUER), Smart wool Socks

Mid Layer - Canadian Forces Gore Tex Stealth Suit (http://www.cpgear.com/StoreBox/clothing_and_accessories/1045.htm)

Top Layer - Drop Zone Tactical Ops Shirt and Pants (http://www.dropzonetactical.com/clothing/opsset.html). I did like the Turtleskin.com Hunting Pants (http://www.turtleskin.com/Hunting-Pants.aspx) found earlier in this thread

Coat - Recce Smock (http://www.dropzonetactical.com/clothing/reccesmock.html)

Boots - My trustworthy Redwing Steel Toe Work Boots (http://www.redwingshoes.com/productdetails.aspx?prodid=1199) with Kevlar fabric calf wrap. If these are too heavy, try to find some Hanwag hiking boots, or Danner Striker combat boots.

Head Gear - Bauer Hockey Helmet (http://www.bauer.com/gear/player/helmetsfacial#shell) with Bauer Half Shield (http://www.bauer.com/gear/player/helmetsfacial/6868-BAUER)

Gloves - Carbon X hard knuckle gloves with the addition of Kevlar fabric forearm Gauntlet

Armor - I still need to ponder this. Probably some calf and forearm protection, along with some neck protection. I'd like to find some body armor and ballictic helmet with face shield for the non-Z folk, but it's not readily available to Canadians. I did like the Hexarmor.com Arm Sleeves (http://www.hexarmor.com/products/detail/19-arm-sleeve/) and gloves as well.

A good rucksack such as a Kifaru Hunting pack (https://www.kifaru.net/spikecamp.html)or anEberle Gun Pack (http://eberlestock.com/GS05%20Gunslinger.htm)would be good but in regards to protection I think it would be important to be able to ditch it in a hurry, but they do offer some rear protection, and if getting one I would try to get as sleak a model as I can get away with.

That's about it...I don't like the lack of mobility afforded by motorcycle suits. It's ok for a crouched position on my bike but for walking around..meh, never mind trying to run in it. If I wanted to do some room/building clearing the riot gear or correction officer cell entry gear would be awesome.

[lakewalker]

I've thought about it and I can't easily get riot gear, IIIA armor, or other armor legally here in Canada. So my full out armor for Foraging and room/building clearing I'll just use Fire Fighter bunker gear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunker_gear)for my first choice, and hit up some sporting goods store for Hockey or Lacrosse gear for my friends and family.

[SuperJuggernaut13]

chainmail mid sleeved shirt with added on collar, motorcycle gloves with my trigger finger cut out on one, light plated leg guards, bracers for arms, red wing hiking boots, and supply harness. I would use a gas mask over my chainmail coif(or head gear)when not using the gasmask i'd have some goggles on or some thing with my face covered.

[kiltedninja]

Smart wools are awesome, that's all I wear now.
I'm probably rocking some Dickies, my adidas or a pair of chuck taylors, a thermal and/or a t-shirt, a sweater of some sort, and my flight jacket.

[angekfire]

Chain armor would work well at stopping bites and claws, but it is typically fairly heavy (16-25lbs probably, depending on gauge), and it can be kinda noisy. Helmets can be a bad idea not only because of vision impairment, but it can also throw off your center of balance.

I like the wetsuit or leather racing suit ideas the best.

[homelitexl]

a jug of grease and a speedo

[Patrickwontsurvive]

I would rock a motorcycle riding jacket and gloves with a trigger finger removed, I figure if asphalt cant take a chunk out of you as you are skidding along at 80mph, neither can a human jaw. Then on top of that I would have some lightweight fabric that sheds water that I could pull up from under my collar to cover my mouth and nose and a pair of aviators to protect my eyes from blood spray etc, though I would probably upgrade to something that isn't tinted at the first chance possible. Then on my lower body I would just wear a pair of durable jeans or cargo pants that are lose enough to move around in but are not billowy or to baggy. I have also been thinking of making some forearm bracers that would be heavy enough to stop a bite, either leather or some heavy duty material. Maybe even make it out of light gauge steel or CF.


... I just realized that I would look like I am about to rob a gas station in that get up. Awesome.

[kiltedninja]

I would rock a motorcycle riding jacket and gloves with a trigger finger removed, I figure if asphalt cant take a chunk out of you as you are skidding along at 80mph, neither can a human jaw. Then on top of that I would have some lightweight fabric that sheds water that I could pull up from under my collar to cover my mouth and nose and a pair of aviators to protect my eyes from blood spray etc, though I would probably upgrade to something that isn't tinted at the first chance possible. Then on my lower body I would just wear a pair of durable jeans or cargo pants that are lose enough to move around in but are not billowy or to baggy. I have also been thinking of making some forearm bracers that would be heavy enough to stop a bite, either leather or some heavy duty material. Maybe even make it out of light gauge steel or CF.


... I just realized that I would look like I am about to rob a gas station in that get up. Awesome.

Invest in some Carhartt jeans, the double kneed variety. The denim is way thick and double layered the extent of the leg.

I'm going to look at a pair of flanel lined jeans for the winter.

[Bob]

How does one "rock" a piece of clothing?
Do mean you slap it on a rock down by the river to clean it?

[mattifikation]

It's young people lingo for "looking good wearing it."

[homelitexl]

jug o grease and a thong

[mattifikation]

Aaaaaand that would be a counterexample to the concept of "rocking it."

[Shufflef00t]

Dry-fit or thermal Base layer. Depending on weather.

Double knee Dickie's jeans and a tactical vest on top of that.

Combat style Steel toe Doc Martens, Police issue tactical belt, leather gloves, black toque.

Bandanna in tow to cover the mouth/nose if necessary, sunglasses.

Dress light, stay mobile. Your best defense is distance and agility.

[kiltedninja]

Dry-fit or thermal Base layer. Depending on weather.

Double knee Dickie's jeans and a tactical vest on top of that.

Combat style Steel toe Doc Martens, Police issue tactical belt, leather gloves, black toque.

Bandanna in tow to cover the mouth/nose if necessary, sunglasses.

Dress light, stay mobile. Your best defense is distance and agility.

Doc's are anti-light mate. Comfortable as hell but not very light. You're not going to find any light steel toed boots.

I'm fixing to wear a pair of trail runners or my hiking boots.

[Shufflef00t]

I have a pair of doc's that are light enough for my liking.

[kiltedninja]

I only wear mine to work because I don't like how heavy they are in comparison to my other shoes/ boots.

[Shufflef00t]

I run in my doc's regularly. My feet don't even feel it anymore.

[kiltedninja]

Eh, we all have our personal preferences.

I think that body protection is largely a matter of what you're going to do. If you're looking to get into fistfights with Zack, then cover up thoroughly, but if you're going to just worried about the environment and your warmth/comfort then you're okay in a pair of levi's and a sweater.

[Sammo909]

^ Agree with Shufflef00t, I've worn steel-capped leather boots for years, after a full day's work or breaking into a jog when in a rush they may not be the most flexible but they're not a hindrance in the slightest.

[kiltedninja]

Rock 'em if you can, but If you can't, then go with something lighter. I personally can't wear my Doc's all day, and at the end of a work day, nothing feels better than putting on my adidas.

[Onslaught]

I'm thinking hiking boots/trail runners. But, I'm also looking at the newer caombat boots from danner, bates, oakley, and converse. Anybody have any experience with them?

[mattifikation]

I think latex catsuits would be perfect zombie protection for attractive women.

[Onslaught]

I think latex catsuits would be perfect zombie protection for attractive women.

Absolutely. They'd have to learn to use bullwhips as close combat weapons though, gotta accessorize.