Anti-Zed Weapon of Choice

[CAVU45]

rifle of course, since well i am a damn sniper heheh.

So you're an ex Royal Marine sniper who just became a sniper at the US embassy in Somalia. That about sum it up? Okay folks, does anyone else see the problem with any of this? I've gone back and read his posts and they make no sense in light of the "training" he's supposedly had. For instance, he doesn't have MRE's they're m, r, e,s. BTW "sniper" there is no U.S. embassy in Somalia and it's U.S. Marines who guard the embassies we do have.

[bandits1]

^^^Lol @ doctorsatan making sh*t up.

[Dave Of The Dead]

So you're an ex Royal Marine sniper who just became a sniper at the US embassy in Somalia. That about sum it up? Okay folks, does anyone else see the problem with any of this? I've gone back and read his posts and they make no sense in light of the "training" he's supposedly had. For instance, he doesn't have MRE's they're m, r, e,s. BTW "sniper" there is no U.S. embassy in Somalia and it's U.S. Marines who guard the embassies we do have.

Don't the military police sometimes do that also? I don't think that branch has many or any snipers as all. I think it would be more believable if he said he was a RPG-toting pirate on an illegal fishing boat in Libya.

[craigzombie11]

i dont think air rifles would work.............. i would use a crowbar and a semi auto rifle

[ZombieJesus13]

Dude they would work on zombies who were highly decomposed.

[toe_tag]

i dont think air rifles would work.............. i would use a crowbar and a semi auto rifle
Crowbars are awesomely effective :)

[Necrolegion]

straight up. crowbar would be part of my ideal gear.

[ZombieJesus13]

Crowbars double as a looting tool so yeah thats a must have.

[slayer1222]

22. air guns can be easily converted to a single shot rifle powerful enough to penetrate the brain through the skull and rifles can be used as a club as long as its not a break barrel rifle in wich case you would have to be carfull

[Necrolegion]

aren't most rifles prone to dysfunction once they are used as clubs?

[hotlead]

aren't most rifles prone to dysfunction once they are used as clubs?

Where'd you hear that ?

[kiltedninja]

It was an accident, but I rifle butted my dad with my Lee Enfield, and it's fine as a rifle still.

That's also my weapon of choice for a reason, since I am a bit of a marksman, and prefer to take my targets at long range, or medium range, depending at who you talk to, but I prefer 100 to 150 yds to kill targets.

Someone called me a sniper, but since I've never used a scope, and have no official training, I can't accept that title.

Anywho, this 'sniper' we're ripping on, he's an ex Royal Marine who's employed by the American military in Somalia? We don't have a bloody embassy there though!

[Hurshem]

A cross bow that shoots out saw blades :O

[hotlead]

Don't the military police sometimes do that also? I don't think that branch has many or any snipers as all.

You'd be surprised at how versatile MP units are these days.

They encounter so many different situations that they have to be trained and equiped to handle as many as possible on their own.

I don't think the designated marksmen in MP units would fit the traditional definition of "sniper", but they are there.

[CAVU45]

Don't the military police sometimes do that also? I don't think that branch has many or any snipers as all. I think it would be more believable if he said he was a RPG-toting pirate on an illegal fishing boat in Libya.

What? Guard embassies? Not that I've ever seen. It's exclusively a Marine job.

[Dave Of The Dead]

What? Guard embassies? Not that I've ever seen. It's exclusively a Marine job.

Okay, I wasn't exactly sure.

[kiltedninja]

That's what questions are for Dave, to clear it all up.

That and to annoy people.

[DeAdLY SiNZz]

Okay i searched the forums and didn't find anything like this sorry if there is one.
Okay this is simple you chose what would be your

Primary Weapon: Ruger Mini-14
Secondary weapon: HK-MP5
Pistol: M1911
Melee Weapon:Crowbar

[Dark Gale]

Primary: Remington 700 (Civilian version)
Secondary: I wouldn't have one...
Pistol: Glock 18
Melee: Crowbar or machete

[CityOfChicago]

Primary: Krebs Custom KTR-08 (http://www.krebscustom.com/KalashnikovRifles.shtml) rifle
Secondary: Springfield XD 5" in .35
Melee: Aluminum b-ball bat

[Zombie_215]

Primary Weapon: Shotgun
Secondary weapon: Sawed off Shotgun
Pistol: no pistol ( I am a bad shot )
Melee Weapon: Crowbar

[homelitexl]

main melee homelite pro chainsaw
secondary melee two homelite xls
last resort dynamite

primary gun- browning 308. lever action
secondary- aya 16. gauge double barrell shotgun

[hotlead]

Primary- Standard M1A
secondary- reloading the M1A
pistol- M1911A1
HTH- bayonet and buttplate of M1A




:)

[Darkness]

Okay i searched the forums and didn't find anything like this sorry if there is one.
Okay this is simple you chose what would be your

Primary Weapon: Ruger Mini-14
Secondary weapon: HK-MP5
Pistol: M1911
Melee Weapon:Crowbar

"Next time, try the Index Thread." ;-)
http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15744

[toe_tag]

I want blades on my heels like Ichi.

[Bob]

I've never looked into them but I know there are some fairly serious airguns out there.
Perhaps someone would care enlighten the old man.

[mattifikation]

In the event that there were zombie dinosaurs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHfzdQ8HWoI

[DeAdLY SiNZz]

sorry Darkness didnt think into that much :)

okay so here's my set up then

Primary Weapon: Ruger Mini-14
Secondary weapon: HK-MP5
Pistol: M1911
Melee Weapon:Crowbar

[Dave Of The Dead]

What I have now:

Primary Weapon: "Aleksandra" Mossberg 500 Persuader (8 shot)
Secondary weapon: Marlin 336 lever-action in 30-30
Pistol: Rohm .22 Revolver (waiting for that thing to fall apart or explode in my hand)
Melee Weapon: Cold Steel Magnum Kukri Machete

I plan to replace Aleksandra's bead sight with ghost ring sights and then get rid of my Rohm .22 all together. I would be exaggerating if I said that it shoots sideways, but it wouldn't be too far from the truth either. Every once in a while it will shoot two bullets at once, other times, none at all. I'm getting rid of it before someone gets hurt and investing in a Sig Sauer or maybe a Glock. Other than that, I'm happy with what I have and do a damn good job with it.

EDIT:
Here's a pic of my Aleksandra:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8088/aleksandrac.jpg

[mattifikation]

How in the world does a revolver shoot two rounds at once?

[Dave Of The Dead]

How in the world does a revolver shoot two rounds at once?

One down the barrel and one directly out of its chamber on either side of the gun. Since its a six shot, four chambers are out in the open at any given point of time. I just can't wait until that one extra shot is from the sixth chamber at the very bottom of the cylinder. I did some research and apparently its pretty common for these old Rohms made in the 60's. As far as I know, this revolver is worth about $30, so its not a surprise to me. I just don't know whether its cooking off rounds or if its the shock sending these rimfires off.

[hotlead]

Dave, if that revolver is that dangerous, I'd not sell it. I'd cut it in half and turn it in, or bring it to one of those police trade in events where they give you cash or a computer, especially since it's only worth $30.

[mattifikation]

Yeah. See if there's any upcoming police trade-ins. You can get some money for it, and you won't have to wonder if anybody blew their hand off with your gun. Also, you'll avoid getting sued.

Otherwise, I'd say destroy it.

[homelitexl]

ill give you 40 4 it

[mattifikation]

I recommend you take that offer. The whole world might one day thank you.

[Dave Of The Dead]

Yeah, I've pretty much just been keeping it for being my first gun. I haven't shot it in a long long time.

[homelitexl]

so will you take my offer

[detpat]

when i was one we joked that MP stood for "multi purpose" not military police.

mp units in garrison slots usually have SRT's and marksman or "counter-snipers" slots.

[Dave Of The Dead]

so will you take my offer

Nah, I'll keep it around to give to someone of little use on Z-Day. Maybe with a firearm even as ridiculously useless as that one, they will have enough balls to survive.

[homelitexl]

dang it i wanted it to give to my ex

[ZombieGore]

My favorite weapon would have to be my forehead, because I would literally headbutt every single zombie in the world...thats whats up...

[homelitexl]

bet you ecome a zed first

[bandits1]

bet you ecome a zed first
...said the guy with the body-fluid splattering chainsaw.

[homelitexl]

Yep but im gonna make a mess eather way i always do

[CityOfChicago]

My favorite weapon would have to be my forehead, because I would literally headbutt every single zombie in the world...thats whats up...

Now that's balls

[homelitexl]

speaking of balls they would be a really lousy weapon

[Xawmb]

I got a baseball bat in my room, a machete and some kind of hunting rifle in the attic(my dads old one, haven't seen it in years!). There is also a Browning Rage Compound Bow in our basement. It was another hunting weapon my dad purchased but never used in his life... There is a fire axe, bunch of other hatchets, chainsaw, crap load of hammers and a couple sludge hammers in our basement as well. Not to mention knives and other cutlery in the kitchen.

Out of all that, I'd start off with the baseball bat, the machete, and that sexy Browning Rage in my basement. I wouldn't go for the hunting rifle because...
A. I have no idea where it is up there
B. I have no experience with any actual fire arm.
c. I have no idea if we have any ammunition for it or not.

I prefer the compound bow because I have experience with using it and other bows. The arrows wouldn't be a problem because my dad(being my dad) got about 100 with his bow and he never fired a single one.

As much as I would love to run into a crowd of zombies with a chainsaw and get blood all over me as their limbs are sent up in the air like a fountain of gore... I'd only use that as a last resort. We got fuel in our basement and out in our shed.

I'll save the rest for another thread.

[CityOfChicago]

You bring up a valid concern regarding firearms. You had best have some familiarity with the one you pick up. You'd hate to grab one and go to use it, only to find out its unloaded or you don't know where the safety is. Or you shoot it dry and dont know how to reload (can be common with some rifles). Or if it jams in one of the several ways a gun can jam. Know how to clear it. And eventually it will need to be cleaned so it functions reliability, so you'll have to learn how to strip it and clean it.

[Dave Of The Dead]

I got a baseball bat in my room, a machete and some kind of hunting rifle in the attic(my dads old one, haven't seen it in years!). There is also a Browning Rage Compound Bow in our basement. It was another hunting weapon my dad purchased but never used in his life... There is a fire axe, bunch of other hatchets, chainsaw, crap load of hammers and a couple sludge hammers in our basement as well. Not to mention knives and other cutlery in the kitchen.

Out of all that, I'd start off with the baseball bat, the machete, and that sexy Browning Rage in my basement. I wouldn't go for the hunting rifle because...
A. I have no idea where it is up there
B. I have no experience with any actual fire arm.
c. I have no idea if we have any ammunition for it or not.

I prefer the compound bow because I have experience with using it and other bows. The arrows wouldn't be a problem because my dad(being my dad) got about 100 with his bow and he never fired a single one.

As much as I would love to run into a crowd of zombies with a chainsaw and get blood all over me as their limbs are sent up in the air like a fountain of gore... I'd only use that as a last resort. We got fuel in our basement and out in our shed.

I'll save the rest for another thread.

Find the hunting rifle just in case. I took my brother to the range for the first time yesterday to shoot clays with my 12 ga. He had never even held a firearm before. After a quick runthrough on how to load, hold, and fire the gun my brother shot two out of eight clays. Now, I don't know about you guys, but those are very hard to hit at about 30 yards with only a bead sight to aim with. I was impressed to say the least. Everyone has the potential to be just a natural shot so if you haven't tried shooting, please do. Especially if you already have a gun around.

[Xawmb]

I don't even think we have any ammunition for it. :doh:

I use to play paint ball like there was no tomorrow.
I had a pretty good shot, even though half the time I was running through some woods I was still hitting my targets(not to brag:)). But paint ball guns and air soft guns are the only things that are close to fire arms that I've ever fired. That's excluding compound bows.

I could always get my foster brother in law to teach me the ropes. He's a weapons/explosives expert in the Armed Forces.

[slayer1222]

i did keep air guns and fire them like there was no tomorrow and i am a good shot but never held a real firearm tho

[CityOfChicago]

I don't want anything that makes me have to be in arms reach. And if I have to have an upcloes weapon, I don't want one that can get stuck in flesh or skull.

[Xawmb]

Yea. In my mind the best would be a baseball bat. Is hard enough to break some skulls and wont get stuck.

[Dark Gale]

Yea. In my mind the best would be a baseball bat. Is hard enough to break some skulls and wont get stuck.

Break skulls, but also break itself. A wooden bat will break after a few hits, while an aluminum one would become dented and bent.

[Xawmb]

I also find that aluminum baseball bats tend to sting my hands when I hit hard objects. You'd need a good pair of gloves.

I totally forgot about the breaking part.

Maybe a an iron poll or something similar?

[bandits1]

I also find that aluminum baseball bats tend to sting my hands when I hit hard objects. You'd need a good pair of gloves.

I totally forgot about the breaking part.

Maybe a an iron poll or something similar?
Everything will eventually break. Carry two.

[mattifikation]

I wonder how a solid titanium bat would hold up?

[Xawmb]

How about a baseball bat made out of diamond or quartz?
You'd have to be pretty strong though.

[Dark Gale]

How about a baseball bat made out of diamond or quartz?
You'd have to be pretty strong though.
You can smash a diamond with a hammer, so what's going to say it will hold up[ after bashing in tons of zombie heads?

[CityOfChicago]

My use of a bat is situational. My listed primary weapon would be my rifle, with the pistol and bat tied for #2. By that I mean, if there is one nasty stubling zed that I cant avoid, I'll give him the Mookie Wilson and if it permanently drops him, fine. If it knocks hm outta the way and I can escape, fine. Either way it's ammo saved. That being said, I'm not too worried about the alum bat getting bent outta shape.

[Darkness]

"There are some interesting conversations, about Bats, in here....."
http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15874

"....As well as this thread......"
http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15435

"They are more of a 'Close Combat Weapon'." ;-)


"Enjoy!" :)

[Dave Of The Dead]

I'm sorry Darkness to keep this going for just one more post, but I must intervene and correct some mistakes here. I promise, it won't last long.

Break skulls, but also break itself. A wooden bat will break after a few hits, while an aluminum one would become dented and bent.

On the subject of baseball bats breaking, I dare to say that many of you are very very misunderstood when it comes to thinking that a a zombie's skull will break your bat after a few swings. I hate to get really technical about all this, but my high school physics education would say that you could kill more zombies with a baseball bat than you could hit homeruns with it. Take this into consideration:

In Major League Baseball, a pitcher throws the 5 oz baseball at about 90 mph. The average swing velocity of a batter is about 60 mph at the "sweet spot" and 70mph at the tip. The collision of these two objects will create more energy than any zombie smashing ever will (unless the zombie happens to be traveling at you at 90 mph). A zombie will likely be coming at you at maybe 5 mph at most so the energy created is less. I really don't feel like doing the math right now, but if you take physics into consideration, you will see that any baseball bat will last you longer if used for smashing zeds than it will when used to hit baseballs. Point made? PM me if this is open for debate.

[Darkness]

"Don't get me wrong, dear. I wasn't implying that Bats are not for this thread. I just figured you would enjoy the other threads as well." :)

[Dave Of The Dead]

"Don't get me wrong, dear. I wasn't implying that Bats aren't not for this thread. I just figured you would enjoy the other threads as well." :)

Gotcha. Just wanted to be safe.

[homelitexl]

a 2x4 woULD BE GOOD

[ZedHunter]

I'll take the 3 guns in my sig.
That's all I really need. Probably not so much the single shot, but I'm sure it'd come in handy when I run out of ammo for my 12ga and 22. :)

I have an 11" blade that will be going in my BOB. Just a variation of my knives will work. I'm not picky.

[homelitexl]

yeah you got some nice guns there

[ZedHunter]

Thanks.
The cost of all 3 of them was under $500. So, I'm pretty happy.

[homelitexl]

id rather have a ww2 mauser kar 98 though

[J Dub]

id rather have a ww2 mauser kar 98 though

gotta love nostalgia. i'll take a m1 garand...but not before i get me a ar15:evil:

[ZedHunter]

I've wanted a Kar98 as well.

[bandits1]

gotta love nostalgia. i'll take a m1 garand...but not before i get me a ar15:evil:
New guns > old guns

[kiltedninja]

Old guns are great, you gotta love the feel of that older piece of weapon in your arms. That's part of why I love my Lee Enfield so much.

[mattifikation]

I pop half a boner whenever I catch the old wood scent of my mosin nagant. If some girl ever wore that scent for perfume I'd probably have to go ahead and screw her.

[homelitexl]

1 matt i dout that will ever happen 2 wouldnt it be hotter if she was holdng our nagant

[Bob]

mosin nagant is pronounced Mossy Nugget

[Dave Of The Dead]

I love older guns. Their look, their feel, and most everything about them just makes me drool to fire them. Them "new fangled" rifles just don't have the nostalgia aspect to them and don't make them near as attractive.

[mattifikation]

Wow, I posted in the wrong thread. haha

[kiltedninja]

mosin nagant is pronounced Mossy Nugget

I think Bear Grylls ate one of those mossy nuggets in Siberia. Said it tasted like a deep fried booger or something to that effect. :lol:

The only reasons that Russia repelled Germany in WW2 was the winter, and snipers like Visiliy Zaytsev and Lyudmila Pavlichenko. I shouldn't be saying this considering I'm Russian, but it's true, the weapons they used in WW2 sucked balls like a two dollar whore.

[Dave Of The Dead]

I think Bear Grylls ate one of those mossy nuggets in Siberia. Said it tasted like a deep fried booger or something to that effect. :lol:

The only reasons that Russia repelled Germany in WW2 was the winter, and snipers like Visiliy Zaytsev and Lyudmila Pavlichenko. I shouldn't be saying this considering I'm Russian, but it's true, the weapons they used in WW2 sucked balls like a two dollar whore.

Yup, pretty much. The sheer number of their infantry was also a big factor.

[Bob]

How is it pronounced?
Where did you buy yours?
Online?

[DarthJoe8]

Yup, pretty much. The sheer number of their infantry was also a big factor.

Also, It had to do with the Russian supply lines being untouchable (as well as the Americans, it's the only thing that kept England fighting) and the German supply lines had been so badly damaged that they couldn't resupply their lines...:think:

Resupplying the troops and denying your enemy the ability to resupply their troops wins wars...:drinking: Look what we did to the Iraq military...:guns: Zack doesn't need resupplying...:scare:

[Darkness]

"I prefer you talk about what Favorite Weapons you would supply them with." ;-) :lol:

[DarthJoe8]

"I prefer you talk about what Favorite Weapons you would supply them with." ;-) :lol:

My Anti-Zed weapon of course would be my transmorgifier...poof!! A flower... :drinking:

[homelitexl]

the auto axe from fallout 3

[Bob]

If I was going to outfit several others it would be with handguns and probably shotguns. I have more shotguns than rifles.

[kiltedninja]

Mine would be hank from the madness combat videos

[Hitman]

either one of these , however the AR with a can on it would probly get the nod .

we shot bowling pins with both of these at 75 yards at the range last time . while the AR is more accurate this AK is plenty accurate for zeds past 150 yards . the AR has a wilson 11.5" barrel and the krink has a 10" (IIRC) barrel , the AK is also in 7.62x39

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i277/bobsboobs/2short.jpg

I do have a 75rd drum for the krink , I guess I need a Cmag for the AR :evil:

[Bob]

Hitman

I am jealous of all the short barreled stuff.

[50 cal]

Yeah, SBR tax stamps are the cats meow!
Hitman, where are you located? I'm in Knoxville?

[mattifikation]

What type of ammo do you feed that AR to get anything resembling performance out of that short barrel?

[bandits1]

Hitman

I am jealous of all the short barreled stuff.
Me too. Short-barreled ARs are the coolest lookin' guns on the planet.

[Hitman]

Yeah, SBR tax stamps are the cats meow!
Hitman, where are you located? I'm in Knoxville?

columbia , we need to get together sometime. I'm hoping the next ARFCOM shoot will be more centraly located .

I like the NFA stuff but I spend enough on stamps per year to buy a very nice gun instead . I'm kicking around the idea of a form 1 for .458socom can for when my upper arives (around dec. ). that would put it at $600 in just stamps this year .

[Hitman]

What type of ammo do you feed that AR to get anything resembling performance out of that short barrel?

it runs on anything . I shoot mostly wolf but I'm working up some 75gr match loads with it . if I need more expansion I can just go with a varmit type bullet as I'm not sure I'll get fragmentation from a barrel this short (I've seen tumbling and some breakups in some targets though, coconuts explode when hit with 62gr wolf hp at 100 yards ). I get more than enough penetration from xm193 and M855 though for the harder targets . if it needs more than that I have '06 AP and .50 AP for the tough stuff .

[kiltedninja]

Coconuts are the approximate density of a human skull, or so I've heard. Someone should shoot one with a .22 and test the brain puncturing capabilities of such a gun.

[mattifikation]

Somebody did that on the old US&D. It worked, but the results were inconclusive because density isn't the only measure of its strength. Not by a long shot. Plus, if you just shoot 5 or 6 coconuts, you're only measuring your luck. If you want to measure power, you've got to go through hundreds of delicious coconuts that otherwise could have been fed to me.

[bandits1]

^ hates coconut.

[Dave Of The Dead]

So if you were stranded on a tropical island and coconut trees were the one thing that grew there, you would being a .22? Those poor coconuts :cry:

I shot my .22 into the side of a tree and guess how far it penetrated... maybe half an inch. I'm not impressed by the capabilities of the .22 at all, but its a good target and small game round so I'll keep it around just for that.

I'm still sticking to my 12 ga. At the gun range today I sucked balls shooting clays so I set my sights on the birds in the area... much easier targets :evil:

[ZedHunter]

I like my 22. In fact, I'm looking into gettin a 22mag.
Guns make the world go round.

[Hitman]

I saw an episode on Handguns TV where they were talking about the adoption of the 1911 during the phillipean wars . for a power compairison they shot a coconut with the S&W in .38 S&W , the bullet didn't exit , and the shot was from mabey 15 feet (it didn't even knock it off the small table). then they shot it with the 1911 , it left a good size hole in the back of the coconut . when I have shot coconuts they were filled with jello and the rifle calibers all blew them into tiny chuncks . the '30-.30 was very brutal on them . 9mm 124gr+p gold-dots also did quite a number on them , much more than the .45fmj's did .

[homelitexl]

I like my 22. In fact, I'm looking into gettin a 22mag.
Guns make the world go round.

you will enjoy it trust me i use my 22 mag all the time good guns

[Dave Of The Dead]

I saw an episode on Handguns TV where they were talking about the adoption of the 1911 during the phillipean wars . for a power compairison they shot a coconut with the S&W in .38 S&W , the bullet didn't exit , and the shot was from mabey 15 feet (it didn't even knock it off the small table). then they shot it with the 1911 , it left a good size hole in the back of the coconut . when I have shot coconuts they were filled with jello and the rifle calibers all blew them into tiny chuncks . the '30-.30 was very brutal on them . 9mm 124gr+p gold-dots also did quite a number on them , much more than the .45fmj's did .
Did the coconut have the husk on it or was it just the little furry bowling ball?

[Hitman]

no husk , just the little bowling ball. I knew the .38S&W was weak (a friend had one) , I just didn't know how weak.

[homelitexl]

i killed a deer once with a 38. snub nose

[bandits1]

i killed a deer once with a 38. snub nose
You probably killed a deer with chainsaw before, too. Doesn't mean it's the right tool for the job.

Just saying.

[kiltedninja]

You can kill shit with a fvcking sharpened stick, doesn't mean it's the right tool for the job.

[ZedHunter]

I can use a grenade for a distraction, doesnt mean its the right tool for the job.

[CityOfChicago]

You can use two tin cans and a string for a phone, but that doesn't mean you'll get proper reception.

See - I can do this too.


What were we talking about again?

[ZedHunter]

Something about a 22LR.

[CityOfChicago]

I see. Well, then let me offer my two thumbs down.

Yes, I posted before about a .32, or even a .25, being sufficient to kill a man. We also discussed how such a weapon is used - up close. Despite the risk of having the effective range of such a device being measure in single-digit 'foot' ranges, I offer this for consideration:

Zombies are dead people. The longer a person is dead, the more decomposition takes place. Decomposition occurs throughout the whole body - even the brain. Therefore, the zombie brain, as time goes on, slowly suffers damage. Yet this damage appears insufficient to 'kill' the zombie. By inference, we must conclude that damage to the brain need be catastrophic to be 'killing'. The .22LR MAY be sufficient to cause such catastrophic damage, but most likely it will not be. Therefore, weighing the ever present risk/reward, one must discount the 22LR as too risky.

Carry a larger weapon.

[Dave Of The Dead]

I set a rule for myself that the smallest caliber round I would use for zombies is 9mm. I'd say its popular and reliable enough to do the job.

[ZedHunter]

I'll use my 12ga or 20ga. I'll have my 10/22 with thousands of rounds incase I run out of shotgun shells. :)

[mattifikation]

I always assumed that what would happen is the cerebral cortex would be kept from rotting by whatever caused the zombification. Brains rot fast (or so I'm told,) even catastrophic damage wouldn't take long before the zed was immobilized unless something was keeping the brain in one piece.

[CAVU45]

I set a rule for myself that the smallest caliber round I would use for zombies is 9mm. I'd say its popular and reliable enough to do the job.

I agree. Anything smaller has proven to be fairly unreliable.

[homelitexl]

except a 308. there pretty good

[DocTongue]

Well, if we're talking what weapon would I pick if I could have ANY weapon at all...

.30 cal M1 Carbine

But if I have to pick one weapon that I own, and only one, Probably my Kar98.

[homelitexl]

i pick either the kar 98 or my browning 308.

[kiltedninja]

Homelite, I think he was talking in pistol calibers.

If I can find out what storage unit my dad puts his stuff in, I'm gonna see if I can get the .45 out.

In terms of rifle caliber, I'm not sure about the smallest reliable caliber.

[homelitexl]

k i want a 44 mag then

[rogeneck]

I would go with a .22 rifle. Not only am a most trained with this gun(from the age of 9 a have pulled the trigger a few thousand times) its ammo can be found in mass at all gun shops so running out is not my concern.

another point to bring up is I only need 2 shots at max to kill a zombie.

the last point is that this is a small rifle so its not as heavy so you could give it to even a small women and she can still carry it around unlike some rifles. with its small size it is better suited to an indoor fighting than most rifles and has the range of a well the range of a .22 rifle.

[MaxVeers]

Allow me to answer this question more plainly.

http://i44.tinypic.com/zjy0s5.jpg

[ZedHunter]

Max...you're my new hero. :)
That picture made my day. For real.

[drdale]

It's like a foreign language! I have a sword and a ruddy great trident and even they're bordering on illegal to own over here! First chance I get I'm moving abroad - it's the only way I'm gonna survive. Either the US or the middle east (I believe there's quite a few firearms around there too)


www.howtosurviveazombieapocalypse.co.uk

[homelitexl]

look an insane inbred hillbilly witha single shot hey thats my neighbor

[CAVU45]

Allow me to answer this question more plainly.

http://i44.tinypic.com/zjy0s5.jpg


*snort* I'm so underwhelmed....Remember gun safety. Take your finger off the trigger.

[ZedHunter]

Bahaha.
Its a single shot. Either you put a shell in or you didnt. :P

[MaxVeers]

*snort* I'm so underwhelmed....Remember gun safety. Take your finger off the trigger.

1. Hit button.
2. Crack open.
3. Eyeball.

If you see a shell and don't smell gunpowder, move to step 4 (remove). If you see no shell, move to step 5 (photo-op away).

Not exaction nuclear physics here.

[CAVU45]

1. Hit button.
2. Crack open.
3. Eyeball.

If you see a shell and don't smell gunpowder, move to step 4 (remove). If you see no shell, move to step 5 (photo-op away).

Not exaction nuclear physics here.

Gun safety rule 1: Assume all firearms are loaded.
Gun safety rule 2: Finger off the trigger till you're ready to shoot.

It ain't rocket science.

[Dave Of The Dead]

the last point is that this is a small rifle so its not as heavy so you could give it to even a small women and she can still carry it around unlike some rifles.

Women can probably be as good or a better shot than anyone if they are trained. Just like anyone else. Sex doesn't restrict your skill with a large caliber. Hell, I'm only 130 lbs and I shoot my 12 ga all the time. Suits me just fine. If possible, take something larger than a .22. There had been intense discussion around here since the Zombie Survival Guide came out about the effectiveness of a .22.

[MaxVeers]

Gun safety rule 1: Assume all firearms are loaded.
Gun safety rule 2: Finger off the trigger till you're ready to shoot.

It ain't rocket science.

1. It's my gun, I know when it's loaded.
2. It's my gun, don't tell me how to operate it. I'm not a child.

Thanks, bud. My Lord, it's a damn picture for shits and giggles. Get a funny bone.

[Darkness]

Allow me to answer this question more plainly.

http://i44.tinypic.com/zjy0s5.jpg

"We now have a Photograph Album Thread, for these type of pictures....."
http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19687

"Thank you." :)

[CAVU45]

1. It's my gun, I know when it's loaded.
2. It's my gun, don't tell me how to operate it. I'm not a child.

Thanks, bud. My Lord, it's a damn picture for shits and giggles. Get a funny bone.

1. You can never be too safe with firearms. Learn the basic, safe operation in the beginning and accidents won't happen.

2. Somone needs to tell you how to operate it. You certainly don't seem to know how or you just don't care. A certain sign of immaturity.

Your welcome. It's a pic that shows a very unsafe practice. I have a very accute sense of humor when something's funny. Your pic isn't. You're a gun owner. You have a responsibility to show others, through your actions, safe and responsible gun handling. I'm not telling you anything that any other responsible gun owner wouldn't. Look, I'm not trying to bust your ass. Accidents happen all the time by people who thought their gun was unloaded. I'd hate to see you develop bad habits that could make you, or even someone you care about a statistic.

[MaxVeers]

1. You can never be too safe with firearms. Learn the basic, safe operation in the beginning and accidents won't happen.

2. Somone needs to tell you how to operate it. You certainly don't seem to know how or you just don't care. A certain sign of immaturity.

Your welcome. It's a pic that shows a very unsafe practice. I have a very accute sense of humor when something's funny. Your pic isn't. You're a gun owner. You have a responsibility to show others, through your actions, safe and responsible gun handling. I'm not telling you anything that any other responsible gun owner wouldn't. Look, I'm not trying to bust your ass. Accidents happen all the time by people who thought their gun was unloaded. I'd hate to see you develop bad habits that could make you, or even someone you care about a statistic.

Seriously, give it a damn rest. It's A PICTURE. I know when my gun is loaded and when it isn't, and when the safety is on. It's NEVER been loaded indoors, it's NEVER been loaded anywhere except from where I've shot it.

All of that aside, I have no real reason to be explaining all of this to you. You're an absolute stranger on the internet who's opinion on this particular instance I didn't ask for or want. IT'S. A. PICTURE.

Don't treat other posters like children. Your blatantly attitude and superiority complex is tiresome and obnoxious. Leave it alone.

[Darkness]

"Max posted a cool pic, that is now proudly displayed in our Photograph Album. No harm, no foul. Will you stop picking on it, and grow a sense of humor, if I remove it from this discussion? Better yet, why can't we just be adult about it, and move on?"

"Now back to the topic. And this time I mean it."

[CAVU45]

Seriously, give it a damn rest. It's A PICTURE. I know when my gun is loaded and when it isn't, and when the safety is on. It's NEVER been loaded indoors, it's NEVER been loaded anywhere except from where I've shot it.

All of that aside, I have no real reason to be explaining all of this to you. You're an absolute stranger on the internet who's opinion on this particular instance I didn't ask for or want. IT'S. A. PICTURE.

Don't treat other posters like children. Your blatantly attitude and superiority complex is tiresome and obnoxious. Leave it alone.

Cool. You want to be an immature little jerk so be it. If you don't want unsolicited advice, DON'T ASK FOR IT. And when you ask for it, don't become pissy when you get answers you don't like. I'm done with you.

[MaxVeers]

Cool. You want to be an immature little jerk so be it. If you don't want unsolicited advice, DON'T ASK FOR IT. And when you ask for it, don't become pissy when you get answers you don't like. I'm done with you.

Nice. Why isn't this guy banned yet?

By the way... "unsolicited advice" wouldn't be asked for. If you're going to let this guy keep posting, send him a dictionary or something.

[hotlead]

Gun saftey is no joke folks, accept it as the constuctive criticism with your satey and well being in mind it was offered as. Yes, minus the trigger finger it's a funny picture.

Posting a picture on the public waves will open you up to comments, if you can't handle it, don't post it.

The saftey on the weapon is a mechanical devise that can fail, it's your shotgun and you know when it is loaded or unloaded.

The first and most effective saftey is right between your ears and should be engaged at all times, be cool and keep the basics in mind, and you'll have no problems.

Edit- I was typing too slow to realize this discussion already got spanked, gun saftey is a part of weapons choice discussions.

On topic- Springfield Armory M1A standard is my anti-zed weapon of choice.

[ZedHunter]

Its a picture. Seriously, shut the **** up. If he was pointing it at someone with his finger on the trigger, whole other story. Its a picture, pointed at the ceiling. Now ****ing drop it.

[hotlead]

You should've used this guy-:x, it would've shown how full of angst you were.

As I said, I was too busy hunting and pecking to see that the conversation got finger-waggled at, settle down, it's cool, the arguement you had so little constructive input in is over, I even said it would be a funny picture.

Ok, now do you feel better? should we go get some ice cream? OK, get your jacket, I'll be in the truck.

[ZedHunter]

I'm actually eating ice cream on a cone.
Very tricky.

[CityOfChicago]

I would go with a .22 rifle....

another point to bring up is I only need 2 shots at max to kill a zombie.


Unless you hit the skull at an oblique angle, which is likely to happen since the skull is mostly curved surfaces. The penetrating powers of the .22 are not top-shelf against hard objects like bone. Curve that bone, and you're likely to have the bullet deflect and follow the skull without penetrating. I've actually seen it happen - people I've taken reports for at work. Small caliber round hits the skull, follows the curve of the skull under the skin, then exits the other side. Person ends up with soft tissue damage and a concussion.

A larger cal round will shatter the skull, even if it hits off center or on an angle/curve.

Just something to consider.

EDIT Hey look - this time I'M not the one on a bender, but the one bringing the thread back on topic. Darkness - look at me!!! WEEEE!!!!!

[hotlead]

Tricky indeed..........:scare:

[Bob]

Oh here we go again with the 22s :x

[ZedHunter]

I threw my 2 shotguns away just so I can use my amazingly powerful 22. Because it's more pwoerful than my 2 shotguns combined.

Anywayyy. Everyone is obviously going to have different opinions. Any gun is better than no gun..right? Or wrong?

[hotlead]

Right....unless it's a chauchaut.

[Bob]

You young know it alls mark today on the calendar I am going to share a truism with you.

There are two kinds of people in the world.
Those who have had an accidental discharge and those who are going to have an accidental discharge.

Your safety practices are going to determine whether or not someone gets hurt when you have yours.

I am not going to flay Max and company for their transgressions only because Cav beat me to it.

Bob
2 accidental 1 unintentional discharge in 45 years.
Zero injuries
1. Asswipe friend loaded a gun I had unloaded. (he was playing with speedloader) Remember every gun is loaded.
2. Lowering hammer on 1911 hammer slipped. (hey it happens)
3. Counted wrong and dropped hammer on live round. (went down range)

Anyone else care to share?

[ZedHunter]

I've never had any accident or unintentional discharge.
I rarely load my guns. If I do, its outside and I make sure, checking multiple times, that all rounds have been shot or removed from the gun before it goes into my house. But, thats just me.

[mattifikation]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MnDvvBQSyE

Classic video that makes a good point.

[Hitman]

I've not had a true ND but when clearing any open bolt machine gun of a jam you will more than likely get a discharge. the trigger should always be considered pulled on those things . I've seen them shoot from just inserting a mag (best to do it on a closed bolt) . a couple of weeks ago I had a couple of rounds go off in my mac 11/9 while clearing varoius missfeeds (think its a bad mag) . the main thing is to always keep any firearm always pointed in a safe direction , finger off the trigger ,etc. if you want to see some bad gun safety practices work at a gunshow for a while after just a few days you'll see every rule broken many times over (one of the funnest is having someone test out a scope on a rifle on you head :scare:). I've seen a couple of ND's while at the range . I don't really believe in AD's 99.9% of most guns won't go off accedently ,it takes a certain amount of neglegence and relaxing of the rules . there is a cop near here that got shot "accedently" in the leg while passing his glock out the car window . supposedly it just went off , funny thing is that can't happen . the trigger on a glock has to be pulled as the gun is not cocked till it is .

at least he had it pointed in a safe direction (it was an "UNLOADED GUN") .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnCnqOQSQ8E&NR=1

had she follwed safe practices it would have ened better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnCnqOQSQ8E&NR=1

pretty sure its a stagged video . why else would he release his grip and retighten it making it go off twice ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1yk9JX0u1c

pay attention while she's tring to get the brass out (her trigger finger mostly)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWO-EzoIbSs&NR=1

I treat all my guns as if thier loaded , because they are . an empty gun is a useless gun . not all have a loaded chamber (90% of the handguns do) but most have a loaded mag . my non zombie ruger #1 (unless I hear about zombie elephants ) and a few herilooms are the only empty ones in the safe ,and even ammo is close at hand for them .

[MaxVeers]

You young know it alls mark today on the calendar I am going to share a truism with you.

There are two kinds of people in the world.
Those who have had an accidental discharge and those who are going to have an accidental discharge.

Your safety practices are going to determine whether or not someone gets hurt when you have yours.

I am not going to flay Max and company for their transgressions only because Cav beat me to it.

Bob
2 accidental 1 unintentional discharge in 45 years.
Zero injuries
1. Asswipe friend loaded a gun I had unloaded. (he was playing with speedloader) Remember every gun is loaded.
2. Lowering hammer on 1911 hammer slipped. (hey it happens)
3. Counted wrong and dropped hammer on live round. (went down range)

Anyone else care to share?

Seriously, that's enough. I'm not posting here anymore. I've had plenty of this bullshit and now, I believe I've been stuffed pretty full of it. It's a god damn picture. Thank you and goodbye.

[Bob]

My issue was not with the picture.
It was with your attitude.
Man up or Don't let the door hit you in the azz on the way out.

[kiltedninja]

My anti-Zed weapon of choice are my wit and charm.:lol:

But in all honesty, I'd take a shotgun over a .22, and I hate shotguns.

[homelitexl]

in my 8 years experiance with guns 1 time my 22mag went off when i was loading it and i once it the hammer on a 30-30 and made it go off.

[rogeneck]

Women can probably be as good or a better shot than anyone if they are trained. Just like anyone else. Sex doesn't restrict your skill with a large caliber. Hell, I'm only 130 lbs and I shoot my 12 ga all the time. Suits me just fine. If possible, take something larger than a .22. There had been intense discussion around here since the Zombie Survival Guide came out about the effectiveness of a .22.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ8xApAhVVM

Hear the part where she says its heavy. And yes I know that that the reason this happened is the placement of the gun. My mother could shoot a "pocket pistol" and hit dead in the center 3\5 times and she shot for only 1-2 years.

I know that when i started shooting at around 9 i couldn't hold it up so we used sand bags on a water barrel.

One other point to bring up is injured people. People on your team might get hurt doing things as simple as opening doors. A .22 may not have the stopping power but it does have a lack of recoil and its fairly quite. in the end what is more important, shooting, missing, running away or shooting, hitting, attracting more zombies to your spot, shooting and killing more zombies running out of that very costly, not in very good stock ammo.

[Darkness]

"Starting over. Hopfully, the next conversations will be civil."