Gear

[kiltedninja]

dude you know how much 300 feet of climbing rope weighs? thats like 60-70 pounds. Id say around 20-40 feet max

When I used to rock climb my dad would have me carry the rope. We used a bundle that was about fifty yards long, and weighed in at like, 15 pounds. I looked it up, most nylon climbing rope weighs 6.2 pounds per 100'. That means that 300' would weigh around 18.5 pounds.

[Bob]

Some is a bit heavier but he's close.
http://www.greatoutdoorsdepot.com/maxim-kmiii-1half.html

Rope is one of those things that can be found just about anywhere right up to the point you need it.

[hotlead]

One time Mrs. Hotlead and I were on our way back to the Bay Area from Idaho, and we drove right into a kick ass sandstorm on the Idaho-Oregon border, it was our first one, pretty cool. I doubt those sandstorms ever get up to Portland, though.

[CAVU45]

I used mine (shemagh) in several different sand and dust storms and on a few convoys. Beyond that I didn't have much use for it.

[kiltedninja]

One time Mrs. Hotlead and I were on our way back to the Bay Area from Idaho, and we drove right into a kick ass sandstorm on the Idaho-Oregon border, it was our first one, pretty cool. I doubt those sandstorms ever get up to Portland, though.

In southern and central oregon, it's desert-like, but up here in the Willamette Valley, I basically wear mine to keep my neck warm, and when it snows, I wear it to keep my face warm as well.

My dad said that in early July, while he was in Kuwait on his way to Iraq that he'd wished he'd brought the one he got in Egypt in the 90's with him because they were having the biggest sand storm Kuwait had seen in quite a while in just a few days.

[Bob]

Did you know that most of them are made in China now?

[CAVU45]

Yep. True. Mine was made in Saudi Arabia.

[Noc]

A keffiyeh as a fashion statement? Pretty daggy fashion statement if you ask me.:lol:

[kiltedninja]

A keffiyeh as a fashion statement? Pretty daggy fashion statement if you ask me.:lol:

Yeah, but so is most of the shit people wear these days. I've never been one to really wear much to look fashionable.

Bob, mine was made in china, but before then, it was a local thing, middle eastern countries made them, and were forced to close down factories when the chinese started making and importing them.

[Bob]

Yup
It's all about money.
The Chinese compared to the rest of the world work for very low wages.
That is how they sell so cheap.
Their manufacturing techniques are no better and in many cases not as good but they have ultra-cheap labor.

[kiltedninja]

Most jeans are made in Mexico.

I don't wear jeans a lot, but I gotta say, that they know how to make some good jeans. I think that packing along a pair of good ol' Levi's would be useful, as an extra pair of pants, or whatever you want to do with it.

[Bob]

One should take at least one pair of pants two sizes two small with him in his BOB.
When the Zpaw comes and we can't get pretzels and beer we are going to drop weight like you would not believe.

[Noc]

Yeah, but so is most of the shit people wear these days. I've never been one to really wear much to look fashionable.

Bob, mine was made in china, but before then, it was a local thing, middle eastern countries made them, and were forced to close down factories when the chinese started making and importing them.

If you wear it for it's intended purpose, I don't see anything wrong with it.

But someone mentioned that 'people only wear it has a fashion statement' that's what I was talking about.

What shoes would you guys be wearing, I don't own boots, so all I have is a pair of Adidas Superstars, not very practical but effin stylish. :D

[kiltedninja]

Dude, I live on Carbs, protein and caffeine(coffee in the mornings) mostly. And vitamin supplements. I also eat a fvcking ton of bananas and tomatoes particularly.
Such is the diet of someone looking to fight in the Octagon.

[Bob]

KN

I must have missed something, I is confoosed.

[kiltedninja]

I'm saying that I don't have much weight to lose. I live on a very sparse diet.

Noc, I wear a pair of Adidas Samba classics when I'm not wearing my dr. martens.

If you're into shoes, look into a pair of trail runners. Hi-Tec makes some good ones.

[mattifikation]

He who stands on toilet is high on pot.

[Darkness]

"I warned you guys. No talking about Religion. Now get back on topic please."

[hightechredneck]

i currently have 2 bob's

first has:
6 pair socks
2 bottles foot powder
2 liters water
bottle of water purification tablets
filtered drinking straw
3 days supply food blocks
9" survival knife w/fish hooks and lines, fire starter, compass, small led flashlight, 2 small game snares
550 parachute cord 100 ft
first aid kit
suiture kit
emergency flashlight/radio=solar and handcrank powered
blue jeans t shirt sweat shirt
small kit of hygene supplys
2 pair of spare eyeglasses
50 ft of wire
tp
spare fire starter
300 rds 9mm
500 rds 22
100 rds 30-30
emergency blankets 4
tube tent
gun cleaning kit
2 leather man tools
swiss army knife
bottle vitimans, supplements
tylynol
18 in crowbar
small gunsmithing kit, minimal, w/spare parts for guns
3 mre's
roll duct tape

2nd bob has 2 liters water
case mre's
additional clothes
can be droped at need
weapons are a different post:x

[rogeneck]

ok darkness i still want some docs tho
why didn't matts post get deleted? looks weird standing alone.

[CAVU45]

A keffiyeh as a fashion statement? Pretty daggy fashion statement if you ask me.:lol:

It goes along with that whole "tacticool" look that some folks are in to.

[Noc]

It goes along with that whole "tacticool" look that some folks are in to.

Yeah, I thought so.

Anyway, socks are going to be very important, all the vietnam veterans I have talked to said you NEED dry socks.

[Darkness]

ok darkness i still want some docs tho
why didn't matts post get deleted? looks weird standing alone.

"Because Matt's comment was only off topic, very short, and not against the rules. And he doesn't do it too often." :lol:

[kiltedninja]

Yeah, I thought so.

Anyway, socks are going to be very important, all the vietnam veterans I have talked to said you NEED dry socks.

I went backpacking for three days back in July, and I brought six pairs of socks. In case one pair got wet, I could hang those out to dry, and wear the extras.

[mattifikation]

"Because Matt's comment was only off topic, very short, and not against the rules. And he doesn't do it too often." :lol:

I don't? I must be losing my touch.

I want an MP3 player that can stand up to the test of time as part of my gear. I can't live without my music. Somebody should make an MP3 player that's waterproof, shockproof, and solar powered.

[Bob]

Now that is light weight camping.
Go for three days taking only extra socks.
I believe I would have had to have at least a knife and bic lighter also, but then again I am a city slicker.

[kiltedninja]

Now that is light weight camping.
Go for three days taking only extra socks.
I believe I would have had to have at least a knife and bic lighter also, but then again I am a city slicker.

I had other stuff, but socks was most of my equipment.:lol:

No but seriously, there's this compartment on my hiking backpack that I put all my clothes in, and socks were the most plentiful piece of it. The other 2/3 of my pack was filled with other stuff, like my stove, camelbak, food and shit.

[Dave Of The Dead]

Camel Backs are effing wonderful inventions. Went for a hike a couple weeks ago before classes started. We went for... a while, and I was just sipping on that thing the whole time. I had a 2 liter pack on and it never ran dry the whole day. I like the smaller ones that are like like mini backpacks though. They give me more room to throw on some extra, smaller messengers to fill in ammo and other misc items like maps and whatnot.

[neoanderson9318]

Yeah, camelbacks are prolly the must have piece of equipment for me, other than food and guns of course. :)

[CAVU45]

The Camelback I carried in the ME was probably the best piece of kit I had. They're built in a variety of sizes and configurations now.

[Bob]

What happens if you put beer in one?
Or perhaps more realistically Vodka to purify the water.
About a 50 / 50 mix should work out about right.

[Darkness]

What happens if you put beer in one?

"Just don't do a lot of running, and it should be fine." :think: :lol:


;-) :lol:

[hotlead]

Bro. Hotlead has told me several stories of coffee, beer, tequila, and wiskey in camelbacks on runs and humps at Camp Pendleton. The SNCOs and officers could check canteens real easy, but random checks kinda fell off when the camelbacks were standardized.

He said the runs got longer and faster when anything other than water was discovered in a camelback or canteen, one time his unit ran up and down Mt. MotherFu**er six times in a row, once for every guy who was found with substances other than water on the run.

[Bob]

I bet the guys were real happy with those 6...

[kiltedninja]

I have a 100 oz. that fits in this slot my backpack has in it. I haven't put any alcohol in it yet, since I don't drink often, but I've thought of it before.

[Noc]

For my drinking alcohol, it's scotch all the way, I good bottle of Chivas would go a long way to improve my morale.

Usually when you guys talk about your military items, I'm completely in the dark, but I actually own a camelback!:clap:

But yeah, it's an Australian army issue camelback, I'm not sure in the capacity but I'll check next time I get it out of the cupboard, I'm guessing 3?

[Bob]

A good addition to gear would be a large container of dehydrated alcohol.
It could be re-hydrated and used as a disinfectant or drunk for morale purposes.

[neoanderson9318]

Hm... That's true. But I don't drink, so that wouldn't work for me. :)

[kiltedninja]

A good addition to gear would be a large container of dehydrated alcohol.
It could be re-hydrated and used as a disinfectant or drunk for morale purposes.

How would one go about dehydrating alcohol?

[homelitexl]

haha condoms will be handy

[rogeneck]

yes that way you couldn't have little chainsaw freeks.

[Bob]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dehydrated%20alcohol

[neoanderson9318]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dehydrated%20alcohol
Hm... Interesting. If I ever do start drinking come Z-Day, then I'll know what to do. :) Thanks!

[kiltedninja]

I was just gonna fill a wagon with cans of Mickey's and a couple bottles of Scotch, and cover it with a tarp or something. But this is great.

[Bob]

Yup
20 liters of PURE laboratory grade alchohol for $327
I just wonder which would give less hangover.
Really pure Vodka like Russian Standard or this stuff diluted to drinking strength?

Anyway a bottle of high grade drinking alcohol is a good addition to your supplies.

[Noc]

A hangover is caused by ethanol. I think alcohols like Everclear and pure stuff have a low ethanol content, so they would give you the 'least bad' hangover, although you might die the 190 proof everclear:scare:

I think, maybe I'm wrong.

[Bob]

When Bob was a teenager he used to drink Everclear.
He would dilute it with Coca Cola.
It was cheap and the bootlegger (the guy who sold to minors) always had it.

[neoanderson9318]

So, I take it everybody here drinks except for me?

[Bob]

I dunno
Most humans who are not recovering alkies or very young drink at least some.
Even my wife will occasionally drink.
I have gone for over a year at a stretch without a drink or even a beer.

[CAVU45]

So, I take it everybody here drinks except for me?

Nope. I don't. I can't remember the last time I had a drink.

[kiltedninja]

So, I take it everybody here drinks except for me?

I don't drink often, just every once in a while. I spent the day visting my brother who has the H1N1, and hanging out with my girlfriend. And this 'Swine Flu' shit isn't as bad as everyone cracks it up to be, he's sick and it's a little worse than the regular flu, but it's not the instant death virus that everyone makes it out to be. Its my birthday, I'm supposed to be drunk right now.

[Darkness]

"Okay, guys, this one has strayed a bit too far, for too long. Time to get back on topic."

[kiltedninja]

I see Darkness, no 'Happy Birthday Kilted, now get back on topic.' I'm a little offended.:)

[Dezzoram]

.22 or 30/30 hunting rifle
My .22 revolver
MAYBE a 12ga shotgun (if weight allows)
ammunition for aforementioned

Primary survival gear:
a good multitool
several good folding knives
a watch
U.S Army issue flashlight
Folding bow saw
Hatchet
Machete
Camp shovel (mine has fishing tackle in the handle)
Compass
Sharpening stone
Maps, one topographical of the area, one political of the nearest town(s)
Lightweight rain gear
Flint and Steel/matches/lighters
Mess kit and small camp stove
Heavy, durable clothing, one set, preferentially camouflaged to the environment
100’ of rope
Eye protection
One tarp
Two pair of durable hiking/work boots (wearing one) and lots of socks
Portable radio
Basic First Aid kit
Cell/Satellite phone or other communications array
All in a durable backpack (surprisingly easy to fit it all into)

I keep almost all of these handy in a backpack, excepting the cell phone, radio, and boots

Secondary survival gear: (depending on the area/availability/how much I can carry)
AR-15 (not necessary considering a .22 will work just fine, but an automatic can come in handy)
Weapon servicing kit
My bow and several arrows
Cold Weather Gear
A kilt for zombie rampages (everyone fights better in a kilt!)
Booze. Anything with a high alcohol content for disinfectant and drinking.
Full sized axe
Water jug
Purification tablets
MREs
MORE ROPE (at least 300’ more)
toolkit
chemical components for RDX and some other explosives I can make
mechanical aspects of aforementioned explosives
Wire
Occular devices
Watercraft?
Bathroom necessities
Duct Tape
MORE AMMUNITION
Whatever I pilfer from populated areas, be it guns, lawn chairs for base camp, a young woman from the survivors in the town, you know, the usual. And I’d totally bring at least one other person. No more then 5 total, however, unless local supplies of food are more readily available. One buck can only sustain so many people.

Most of the secondary gear I would stash away, along with food that stores well. Preferably, if I had to stay in one place, I’d keep it in a car I left concealed halfway between wherever I’m hiding and any high-traffic areas for both humans and zombies. I could haul what I need from town or whatever, drop what I don’t need right now in the car, take the rest with me. Minimize my exposure in any high-risk area. As far as my .22s go, I figure that if I peg a zombie in the head with a .22, its just as dead, since a .22 will bounce around the skull a bit. Something bigger might work better, but anything bigger will have more kick and have ammo that weighs more. If your carrying a rifle, your best bet is to use that for hunting game, but it works in a pinch against zombies. Priority 1 shouldn’t be fighting zombies, it should be to defend against long enough to escape.

[Dezzoram]

Also, access to some rather unorthadox weaponry could be necessary. Survival means that your primary concern is yourself. Ergo, much like in the movie Defiance where the weaker Beilski Ostriad was forced to supply the Russian camp, any other survivors are fair game. A potato gun built to fire glass jars full of bleach and ammonia (Chlorine gas) launched at the other's base of survival could be used. I have a friend who thinks this could be an effective way of getting supplies while focusing your own energy towards other ends.
It isnt an honorable way to survive, but making somebody else fix your clothes and guns and collect your food is better then doing it yourself. and if your goal isnt to just survive but to hunt zombies, having a less than lethal weapon at your disposal is a good way of convincing an undiplomatic group to cooperate without killing any survivors.

Granted, this is for the long term, not the short term. plus, that potato gun can become a useful incendiary thrower when facing asea of zombies. I'd chalk it down if i was faced with a long term survival situation

[CAVU45]

My oh my, where to start. That's quite a list you have there. I certainly hope you aren't planning on humping all that gear. It is a mite heavy and cumbersome. I do find it rather amusing that you would turn down a perfectly good AR for a little poodle shooter in the hope that the bullet will "bounce around the skull a bit." Quite honestly I wouldn't bet my life on that happening. I'll take a good AR in .223 or 5.56 any day over a mouse gun. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be advocating pillaging and slavery in your second post. You might be surprised to find that at least some of those survivors you plan on taking advantage of are much better equipped and trained than you are. I imagine the first hint you'd have of this would be on of their higher caliber rifles putting lead in your ass.

[Bob]

Well I am not saying your butt is not intelligent but when you launch a jar full of gasoline, jellied or otherwise with a 'tater' gun be sure to tape it.
Just before touching off the 'tater' gun holler at the top of your lungs "hey y'all watch this".

[Dezzoram]

seemed like a perfectly good idea. plus, all that gear is mildly compact. the first list at least. i keep most of it in a backpack for camping anyways. the second list is kinda a wish list. A .22 kills just as easily as a larger round. And its far more readily available. If you find a box of bullets in an abandoned house, chances are good that they'll be .22s from a plinker rifle. Yeah, bigger rounds are more effective in many ways, but a .22 is just as deadly if it's fairly well aimed.

[CAVU45]

seemed like a perfectly good idea. plus, all that gear is mildly compact. the first list at least. i keep most of it in a backpack for camping anyways. the second list is kinda a wish list. A .22 kills just as easily as a larger round. And its far more readily available. If you find a box of bullets in an abandoned house, chances are good that they'll be .22s from a plinker rifle. Yeah, bigger rounds are more effective in many ways, but a .22 is just as deadly if it's fairly well aimed.

Bigger rounds are more effective, period. For the venerable little .22lr to be effective would require very good marksmanship and for one to be a hell of a lot closer to the target than is deemed prudent. There's a reason the little round isn't used for anything except plinking, varmints, and old hitmen. It has its place. But not as a weapon of main defense.

[rogeneck]

i think some one here cant jump over a telephone wire.

i would rather rambo it than take all of the crap. most of it is useless unless you have a goal other than to survive. go do a little test. put all of your gear in your bags and strap on your hand gun and sling that .22 across your chest. wear that "heavy" clothing and try to run a mile. you (im guessing by your gun choice your not, nor were ever in active service) will probly get a time twice your normal. i deduct by the fact that you said that you want to take slaves after the world ends that your screwed up in the head. most people that messed up in the head dont do much the the sport area. so you most likely get 9:30+ with out all of that stuff. so your going to run a 19 minute mile. that 3 mph.
a human walks that fast.

[Bob]

i think some one here cant jump over a telephone wire.


Well if I could jump a high as a telephone pole holds the wires I would count myself in pretty dang good shape.
Matter of fact I would probably be a Superman...

Now if you are talking about a phone "cord" that's a different matter.

[rogeneck]

dude
"lier lier pants on fire, cant jump over a telephone wire"
were you ever a child?

[mattifikation]

i thought it was liar, liar, pants on fire, hanging from a telephone wire?

[Bob]

HUH?
Where did the telephone wire stuff come from?
It must be a northern thing.

Gear!
Got a nice shot in the arm to my gear fund today.
Going to be buying some new "gear".
I would say what kind but it would be off topic for this thread.

[Surviving ZDay]

heres mine:

Hunters knife
Hunters Bo/arrows
flashlight
lighter/matches
gloves
mask
goalie helm
ham radio/ walkie talkie
gameboy (playing donkeykong is better then thinking about the countless dead you'll never see again. and if you do, they'll be trying to eat you.
batterys
my dads biking hydrapack, fulla kool ade
my super cool army bag, full of canned foods, spam and other goodies
steel toes
heavy jacket
camo pants
a bright orange hoodie that says "IM NOT A ****ING ZOMBIE"
and a few other things I forgot from my list.

[Darkness]

"Hey, Surviving ZDay, I think you might find the following thread interesting......."

http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15752

"......Enjoy!" :)

[Mohleybeard]

The internet. They're expensive as hell, but I would assume that they would be totally worth it if you come into a situation where you would need one.

Lockpick guns are actually harder to use than traditional lockpicks, believe it or not.

[kiltedninja]

Eh, I've got a method that's gotten me into a lot of doors that would surprise you and it requires very little money.

[mattifikation]

How are they harder?

[Littlejon126]

I saw the 11 page topic showing people list of weapons that they can't possibly actually own. While a few of the answers were real or seemed at least feasible, some of the gun choices were ridiculous! Some of it wasn't even real!

Let's see how prepared you ACTUALLY are! In the middle of the night while you're sleeping, you're going to receive a disturbing phone call from a frantic friend that says a zombie is moaning and groaning near their front door, and that there are many more out there with it. Air raid sirens start going off, your weather alert radios that automatically play when a weather warning comes up (I have one, it's cool!) starts spewing information about the dead walking the earth. "It" has officially "Hit the fan."

What weapons that are currently in your home would you grab, and why?

I'll list mine after I get a few responses.

[CAVU45]

Gas piston converted M4, 1911A1, and Taurus PT945. Why? Because I own them and they're always loaded.

[snakebite]

I've got a Remington 700, .300 win. mag. Thats it. I;d love more, but the pocket-book is sucking. I have enough gear for myself and the family to pile into the Dodge and make it to Post (im on FT.Carson). From there, its a simple matter of hitting the motor pool, then the Arms room and its go time. Its not much, and I'm not saying its totally adequate, but it would just have to do. Hand tools for the zombies and the 700 for the guys that get in the way.

[mattifikation]

A Mosin Nagant, a Maverick 12 Gauge shotgun, and a WASR AK clone. I used to have a Springfield XD but I had to sell it. While I was unemployed for awhile, it came down to keeping all my guns or eating. (I tried to sell my car before I sold that gun. I should work on my priorities.)

You should be less quick to dismiss the people on here. Some of these folks are real collectors and/or survivalists, and actually have a quite an extensive arsenal.

[Darkness]

"This is how prepared we really are."

[Littlejon126]

A Mosin Nagant, a Maverick 12 Gauge shotgun, and a WASR AK clone. I used to have a Springfield XD but I had to sell it. While I was unemployed for awhile, it came down to keeping all my guns or eating. (I tried to sell my car before I sold that gun. I should work on my priorities.)

You should be less quick to dismiss the people on here. Some of these folks are real collectors and/or survivalists, and actually have a quite an extensive arsenal.

Oh, I'm well aware of that fact. I can read through BS pretty well, that's what I do.

Your collection is similar to mine; I've also got a Maverick 88 Security, several Mosin-nagants (M44, M38, 2 M91/30's and 1 M91/59), GP WASR-10, several Yugo SKS, Ruger No.1 in 25-06 with a Weaver scope, a Winchester Model 12 26in, and more handguns than I care to start counting. Got a few .22's (both rifles and pistols) for plinking with. My duty gun is a Smith and Wesson Model 67, 4 inch barrel, that I carry 5 days a week as a security officer. I'm also a licensed courier and working on my POST certification, as well as a MO CCW holder.

Then again, I'm paid to carry a gun now, and going to school so that I can get a job that carries a gun! I've got a gun on me or within arms reach nearly 24 hours a day.

That being said, looking through this list, there are some obvious non-gun users - or their experience is limited to COD4: Modern Warfare or some silly internet flash game. Trying to wrangle the internet cowboys up and point!

[Darkness]

"Stay on topic, and stop feeding the trolls."

[CAVU45]

That being said, looking through this list, there are some obvious non-gun users - or their experience is limited to COD4: Modern Warfare or some silly internet flash game. Trying to wrangle the internet cowboys up and point!

Of course there are "non-gun users" here. Most will readily admit it also. Doesn't take CPT Obvious to point that one out. So you have a few reponses to your query. Time for you to put up.

[Littlejon126]

I think you guys might misunderstand my intentions. By no means do I intend to troll here. I was a former moderator at a zombie survival site considerably larger than this (Zombie Survival and Defense Wiki) and had to deal with it on a daily basis - I understand that immediately people begin treating new folk like trouble makers at the first sign of disagreement. Then again, the ZSDW had well over 1.5 million hits and literally had that problem daily.

That being said, there's no need to be rude to me. In fact, that behavior just runs new members off; members that might actually contribute something valuable or interesting to the site. I am NOT a trouble maker, and just because you disagree with me doesn't make me a troll.

We can all say that we got P90's and 5000 rounds of 5.7 ammo, and that we live in a box truck that has a water collector on top and armor plating on the sides and to get internet we park in MacDonald's parking lot with our I-Phones, and that might be true.... But it doesn't matter what kind of fancy gizmos you have if you can't start a fire in wet conditions or find a plentiful or renewable source of food and water. Skills are so much more important than junk (even junk good enough to get issued to Stargate teams universe-wide), and I don't see a thread here that discusses teaching practical skills but there's 40 pages of gun crap. I smell ninja....

Frankly, I don't know why my thread was lumped into this stupid "megathread" anyways; it wasn't even the same topic. My post, despite being LOOSELY about gear, was more about finding out how many "mall ninjas" are here to determine whether or not this community is worth my time for recreation. I know for a fact that I'm not the only person here who feels that way....

Hey, it's whatever. If y'all wanna treat me like some sort of zombie survival n00by and discredit my opinion and shut me down, fine - your loss. Cya!

[Littlejon126]

PS - I like the Cpt. Obvious part. That was nice and clever. You want me to put up?

PPS - I'm 50 lbs lighter than these images, which are a year or two old. I got images of that if you need "photograpic proof" for that too.

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/83/l_4bb2aaa2688c4eb8817c6cb51cdd5822.jpg

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/70/l_ddbdce1b7c02423eba1ec2f9ff8d3995.jpg
In the green, on the right.

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/96/l_c86813034dbdfed16a8a6dc5a6d92bec.jpg
In the rain!

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v273/235/108/1404984680/n1404984680_30037643_6522.jpg

[Darkness]

"OOOOO! Geared-up Pictures! We have a perfect place for those......"
http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19687

"......Join the fun." :)

[Amsterdamm]

My Remington 870 Wingmaster is all got and all I need. :evil:

[Darkness]

"There is a lot more than just gun talk in here, Littlejon126, try checking the Index Thread." ;-)
http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15744

[Darkness]

"Okay, guys, play nice! Don't make me come back with the Giant Eraser of Doom again." :naughty:

[rickbreck]

My list is modest, but, I think, adequate.

What we'd hope to carry:

Kel-Tec SU-16 .223 semi-auto rifle, takes AR mags;

Marlin Camp 9 9mm semi-auto carbine, shares mags with...
S&W 5906 9mm semi-auto pistol, shares mags with...
Kel-Tec P-11 9mm DAO semi-auto pistol;

Marlin 995 .22 semi-auto rifle, clip fed;
Ithaca 37 12 ga. pump;
CZ 527 .223 carbine bolt-action, scoped;
Iver Johnson .38 S&W break-action revolver.

The hope is that, if we were hoofing it, I could carry the SU-16 and wear the 5906, with the shotgun riding on my backpack in case things got frantic up close;
my son could carry the Camp 9 and wear the .38 (it's a last-ditch thing, okay?), with the CZ riding on his backpack in case we had to reach out;
my daughter could carry the Marlin and wear the P-11 for backup.

Now this stuff would ride, if we had transport other than our feet:

CZ 527 7.62x39 carbine bolt-action;
Ithaca 37 20 ga. pump;
Remington Sportsman .22 bolt-action;
Ruger Single-Six .22 revolver

The CZ in 7.62 is not scoped. It has fixed sights that are deadly out to about 100 yards - shoots like a bad-assed .22 when you're at 50 yards or less. Gives us an option for scrounged ammo.

The .22 rifle and pistol, well, I own 'em, they're accurate, might as well haul them along if you've got a ride. And I've got Sooooo much .22 ammo.

Of course, I never have all the guns I want. I'd like to pick up a couple of Kel-Tec Sub 2000s in 9mm that also use S&W 59 series mags.

And if I could replace all the .22s I'd get three each, (pricey) Browning Buckmark rifles and Buckmark Micro pistols, in case we ever wound up in static defense with time to carefully pick off Zeds from the walls or windows. I shot a Buckmark pistol for a long time and they're really accurate. The rifles are built on the same action so they use the same mag and I assume they, too are very accurate.

[Littlejon126]

My list is modest, but, I think, adequate.

What we'd hope to carry:

Kel-Tec SU-16 .223 semi-auto rifle, takes AR mags;

Marlin Camp 9 9mm semi-auto carbine, shares mags with...
S&W 5906 9mm semi-auto pistol, shares mags with...
Kel-Tec P-11 9mm DAO semi-auto pistol;

Marlin 995 .22 semi-auto rifle, clip fed;
Ithaca 37 12 ga. pump;
CZ 527 .223 carbine bolt-action, scoped;
Iver Johnson .38 S&W break-action revolver.

The hope is that, if we were hoofing it, I could carry the SU-16 and wear the 5906, with the shotgun riding on my backpack in case things got frantic up close;
my son could carry the Camp 9 and wear the .38 (it's a last-ditch thing, okay?), with the CZ riding on his backpack in case we had to reach out;
my daughter could carry the Marlin and wear the P-11 for backup.

Now this stuff would ride, if we had transport other than our feet:

CZ 527 7.62x39 carbine bolt-action;
Ithaca 37 20 ga. pump;
Remington Sportsman .22 bolt-action;
Ruger Single-Six .22 revolver

The CZ in 7.62 is not scoped. It has fixed sights that are deadly out to about 100 yards - shoots like a bad-assed .22 when you're at 50 yards or less. Gives us an option for scrounged ammo.

The .22 rifle and pistol, well, I own 'em, they're accurate, might as well haul them along if you've got a ride. And I've got Sooooo much .22 ammo.

Of course, I never have all the guns I want. I'd like to pick up a couple of Kel-Tec Sub 2000s in 9mm that also use S&W 59 series mags.

And if I could replace all the .22s I'd get three each, (pricey) Browning Buckmark rifles and Buckmark Micro pistols, in case we ever wound up in static defense with time to carefully pick off Zeds from the walls or windows. I shot a Buckmark pistol for a long time and they're really accurate. The rifles are built on the same action so they use the same mag and I assume they, too are very accurate.

NICE! How's that Kel-Tec SU-16 running? A buddy of mine picked up a P-11 years ago, and being so impressed with them I purchased a P3AT for CCW. Runs great after break-in!

I really want one of their .308 rifles (MBR I think it's called?) but I can't justify that sort of expenditure any time soon. But its freaking cool looking!

[rickbreck]

So far the SU-16 runs great, but I've only fired it a couple hundred times. To this point I'd recommend it for non-professionals like me who just want to be prepared, though I couldn't say how it holds up compared to an AR or AK.

Interesting, if you've ever fired a Remington 1100 semi-auto shotgun, the SU-16 feels much the same when you shoot it. The recoil is kind of long and, I dunno, squishy? feeling. The AK recoil seems sharper, shorter, and blowback actionss like the Camp 9 are certainly much sharper. It's not bad, just different.

Yeah, I like Kel-Tecs. I'm old school, I like wood and steel. I even prefer blue to stainless, but I think the little Kel-Tec pistols are awesome. I've seen .25 autos that are bigger than my 9mm, and right off hand I can't recall it ever hanging up except when I fed it crappy ammo.

[Shufflef00t]

I've kept my list to things I already have.

I'm wearing ankle/wrist to collar dryfit/thermal under double knee jeans and a tactical vest. I keep matches, ammo, scouting scope, utility knife, and a pair of heavy leather gloves in my vest.

Primary: 30-06 Browning BAR lightweight stalker (4 round box mag is a pain, but it was free)

Secondary: 12g Remington 870 w/sling, Flashlight

Side-arm: no current. Research in progress.

Melee: Machete, Crowbar (dreaming of a stiletto ti-bar)

Backpack: MedKit, non-perishable rations, 200rds 30-06, 50rds 12g, gun cleaning supplies, bedroll, flares, matches, notebook, gloves, bandanna, canteen, binoculars, basic tool kit.

I strap my 870 to one side of the bag, and the crowbar to the other. I carry the BAR and my machete is holstered on my left hip.

During downtime or hunting, I strap the 870 tight to my back. I wear the bandanna to quiet my breathing and protect from splatter.

I've also got 2 large milsurp duffel bags to be packed with food, clothes, ammo, etc.