Official Homeade Gore Effects Thread

[dudethatlikeszombies]

this is a thread for homade gore effects. this is for people who want to share what works in the field of gore. how to edit gore sequences together. and what kinds of blood you can use. anything related to gore. if there's another thread like this . . . i don't care. so sue me. :evil:

[DEAD-KNIGHT]

home made squibs...

Materials:

BlackCats
Leather weight belt
cheap sandwich bags (NO ZIPLOC!!!)
twist ties
fake blood
THIN cotton undershirt
Duct tape
lighter
scissors

1.Fill the sandwich bags with on or two black cats depending how big of a bang you want.
2.Begin to fill baggies up with fake blood, make sure you leave the BLACKCATS fuse outside the bag and it doesn't get wet.
3.When you've finished filling the bags close them with the FUSE outside the baggie with a TWIST TIE.
4.With the excess baggie outside the TWIST TIE cut off with scissor to fully expose the BLACKCATS FUSE.
5.Have your victim...eh uhm... ACTOR put the WEIGHT BELT with support side (THICK-side) facing the area you want the squibs to blow.
6.DUCT tape the home made squibs gently around where the TWIST TIE is onto the WEIGHT BELT.
7.With your home made squibs in place have your actor put on the THIN cotton shirt. Set your scene up for the action start filming, light the fuses, flap down the shirt over the squibs, stand back, and blammo!!! home made squibs...

I know is very primative but what else are you going to do?

[dudethatlikeszombies]

i like that idea. i think i heard it
somwhere else.

[DEAD-KNIGHT]

it's a pretty ancient method, works really well though.

[dudethatlikeszombies]

wait aren't the blackcats dangerous for the person?

[DEAD-KNIGHT]

Naw thats why you use the leather weight belt so it doesn't blast on their skin... but i've held three black cats in my hand and light them no problem... but than again i'm pretty hardcore...LOL....
:rock:

[zombiekilling101]

homemade i use is the cryo seryup method.

just get seryup (i dont know how to spell that damn word so bare with me)

and than mix it with read food coloring. you can also put some blue in it to the desired affect. than you can add the amount of water to loosen it up. And just play around with it..but the basic ingredients are water.. red food coloring and cyro sryup.

if you count homemade products as buying appliances and makeup and doing it yourself. than i use that stuff mostly.

[dudethatlikeszombies]

you need to get back to work, i know your still at school. btw, thanks for the info on blood. oh, yeah. corn syrup, red food coloring, i know . . . school makes you stupid.

[Roger_Lives]

Fill a super-soaker with water and food coloring (i know it sounds watery, but it works). For an extremely rediculous amount of blood. i.e. Camera facing actor. Actor shoots. Pump Soaker, and spray him with as much blood as possible. I tried this once..it looked funny

[DEAD-KNIGHT]

JUST A SUGGESTION TO ALL!!!

IF YOUR GOING TO USE MY HOMEMADE SQUIB IDEA...

BE CAREFUL!!!! DON'T HOLD THEM IN YOUR HAND AND LET THE EXPLODE!!! ONLY I CAN DO THIS!!!
ONE MORE THING!!!

BLACKCATS ARE LIKE CUTTING AN M-80 IN HALF... so... SINCE THEY DON'T MAKE M-80'S ANY LONGER CAUSE OF THE CONSISTANCY WITH DYNOMITE... USE M-90's FOR SAME EFFECT JUST SMALLER BANG... GOOD LUCK! :saw:

[Zombie Minotaur]

homemade i use is the cryo seryup method.

just get seryup (i dont know how to spell that damn word so bare with me)

and than mix it with read food coloring. you can also put some blue in it to the desired affect. than you can add the amount of water to loosen it up. And just play around with it..but the basic ingredients are water.. red food coloring and cyro sryup. My friends and I use this type. It is very good for having it stay when applied, but it is a bitch to wash off. I think I still have fake blood stains on my Chucks from five months ago....

Like a badge of honor...

[zombiekilling101]

yeah it is a bitch to get off. my friend almost started crying when i was trying to get his blood shirt off of him. .it was stretching his skin and it was pretty bad. ouch! glad i was the victim and not the zombie.

[dudethatlikeszombies]

OUCH! that sucks. i'll probably have the person where another shirt or something up
under it.

[x-Ammo-AS-x]

Simple method in removing the syrup type blood is to just apply some hot water. It`l slightly melt the syrup and make it easier to remove.
One classic way of making cuts and the sort is tto use good old tissue paper. Wet the tissue ( not too wet ) and create the desired cut or gash by moulding the tissue then carfully remove the tissue from that area and place on a heater or radiator and leave to dry. Itl set nice and hard for painting. To reapply the tissue u can use skin glue or if you dont have any then use a thick solution of flour and water. This is a tried and tested method for making skin glue and was also used back in the day for splicing movie reals together. Note: this stuff takes a while to set so have a hairdrier handy ;)
another alternative if you cant be bothered with the flour and water mix is to use PVA glue. This stuff is perfect cos when it dries it dries clear. PVA glue is also really good for making cuts with when put on really thickly. The big problem with it is it doesnt paint on very well.
Heres another method on a homemade squib. Use the same aproach as the blackcat squib but this doesnt use bangers to detonate the squib this one uses airpressure. Take a length of rubber tube and place a bag around the end of the tube ( make sure the plastic on the bag is as thin as u can find, some clingfilm will do really well. ) make the bag at the end to the size you wish the squib to be. Now tape the squib to the body where u want it do go off and then run the rubber tube down the body taping as u go and then run the tube down the leg preferably under pants/trousers. Now this is the cool part. Fill a washing up bottle or any type of container bottle that can be squeezed with your fake blood mixture and attach it to the end of the rubber tube ( remember when constructing all this to make sure that you seal everything so that none of the fake blood leaks out ) now hold the bottle above the point of the squib so some of the mixture pours into the bag, u can even squeeze the bottle a little to get the bag nice and full. The good thing about this is it can be self activating by placing the bottle under your foot out of camera shot and stepping on it to activate the squib. Another good thing about this method is that once the squib is burst u can keep pumping blood from the bottle as if an artery has been cut.

[dead filmaker]

ok here she goes

intestines and guts:
take toilet paper(cheapest you can find) roll long strips with it like an intentine then run it under the fuacet in the sink add more paper if you need it then take flesh colored latex and cover the gut let it dry and there you go you got intestines do the same thing to make hearts and splines and the like


hemoraging:
get that clear platic tubing you can get at any harware store then duct tape it over the nozzle of an insecticide sprayer fill the sprayer with watery blood and boom a nice blood source.

blood:
follow the basic method used be for but you can also add penut butter the oils makes it not stain clothes

i really need to go to bed but tomarrow i will add a shit load more off tricks

[dead filmaker]

ok i am back kids with more awsome goodness

bulet hits:
this is basiclly a sqib but with no explosives and it looks a hell of a lot better then compressed air squibs even though thats what it is so here she goes
1.get a long clear plastic tubing and fold it in half and hold it so you have both the open ends in your hand take an insecticide sprayer and fill the tube with blood so that there is no air in it at all or as little as possible
2.take a small water balloon and stretch it over one end of the tube and make sure that the balloon is stretched really tight over the end or else the balloon will blow up and get roundbe for it explodes,wrap duct tape around the tube and the balloon so that the balloon is sucured to the tube
3.take it and tape it to sombodys skin under there shirt
4. then take the open end over off camera were you will have a helium tank waiting open the helium valve and put the tube on it once action is called and you see your que form a seal with your hand around the tube and helium nozzle and let her rip the blood will come flyin out and it will even make a popping noise

now i know that probably didn't make a whole lot of sense so if you are confused just post what you are having trouble with

fake skin for clawing and the such:

its very simple take 1 part flour 1 part corn starch and and elmers glue mix it all up until it is a think dough you can the spred it on your hand and use a hair dryer on itand then tear away to make it relistic you have to screww with layers and blood and all that but it s is fairly simple to figure out but if you got questions post them

cutting leg or arm off:
go to a local fish market and but a really big ass fish i am talkin huge coz it hase to simulate a leg or an arm stuff that in the sleeve or pant leg and start sawing away

tearing off arm
just use an old sweat shirt with one or both arms packed with towels then run tubes conected to sprayers up the back of the victem and out the arms spray when needed, but back to the sweat shit cut the sleeves a bit to make for an easier tear

as usuall just post if you got questions

also if you have any questions on how to achive a desired effect and need help post them here coz i garantee i can help

[dead filmaker]

back agin to say if you are going to be making movies that invole blood and gore and all that good stuff you should really build a guacomole*spelling*gun or 2

i have one that permanently has a tube coming out of the beralle and i am going to make another one that has inerchange able barales for various effects

i belive that it is a nacecity to have one of these and once you build one you will under stand why

you can create awsome effects like the awsome kill bill style hemorage, bullit hits, blowing peoples hands, feet, legs, arms,you can also create awsome splater effects on walls and on people

p.s. i am sorry for the over use of the word "awsome"

[dudethatlikeszombies]

my dad just happened to get a germicide sprayer . . . .

[dead filmaker]

use it they work mericales

[dudethatlikeszombies]

oh i will . . .

[Phrozin]

I just remembered a failed effect idea that I tried working on. I wanted to make a pencil sticking out of my head. I broke a pencil in half, put wet TP around it, with some red paint. I wanted it to dry faster, so I put it in the microwave. Graphite pops in the microwave. It scared the shit out of me and cracked the pencil in half lengthwise.

[Prah]

Blimey, now I know never to microwave my pencils in the future! :)

Everything that's been said in this thread so far has helped me come up with a few ideas for my film (hopefully shooting something this week), so cheers for that!

EDIT:

Oh, and if anything comes up during filming that I think you'll all find useful, I'll let you know.

[zombiekilling101]

I just remembered a failed effect idea that I tried working on. I wanted to make a pencil sticking out of my head. I broke a pencil in half, put wet TP around it, with some red paint. I wanted it to dry faster, so I put it in the microwave. Graphite pops in the microwave. It scared the shit out of me and cracked the pencil in half lengthwise.

i have a pencil latex thing. Its pretty cool and only cost me about 5 or 6 bucks i think. Go to party city they have a bunch of crap.

[darkharp]

I just helped finish a 48 hour horror film contest on the weekend, and we used some gore techniques we made up on the spot. I'm not sure if they'll help anyone, but everyone's posts have helped me, so i thought i'd contribute.

I think someone might have said this already, but if you use toilet paper in some watered down fake blood, and mix it up until it goes pulpy, it looks like some shreaded up flesh, i thought it was pretty realistic. I wouldn't just use this, but in a combination of other things i'm sure it would add to the effect.

Also, we had a pumpkin nearby that we had to smash, so we took the pulp from the pumpkin guts and mixed it in with the blood. It looks pretty good cause it's all stringy and pulpy. It'd probably look awesome in different colors like blue or green. Like in the beginning of MIB when Tommy Lee Jones blows up that alien on the highway patrol cop, and he picks that blue goo off his hat. *shrugs* I'm a new member, but i thought i'd just throw in a comment or two. :)

[zombiekilling101]

hmm that pumpkin guts idea is pretty good.

[dudethatlikeszombies]

i have to admit, it is. Pretty good idea, DarkHarp. Welcome to the boards. Oh, yeah. If you guys have the unrated director's cut of DOTD ( 04 ), watch splitting headaches: anatomy of splitting heads, it's awesome! cool gore effects.

[darkharp]

Wow, you guys think so? *blush* thanks! I just wanted to be useful, lol. Thanks for the welcome :). I'll definatley post some more ideas if i find them!
I'm going to have to get the DOTD directors cut, sounds pretty awesome.

[dudethatlikeszombies]

oh, by all means get it. it's a pretty cool dvd. anyways, you're welcome for the welcome. you better enjoy it 'cause i never got one. . . . anyways, they had a lot of good ideas in that featurette. for instance, they have on device that is like a cannon, and they strap it to the back of the actor/extra. the actor/extra can activate it, and a huge fountain of blood shoots up from the back of the person's head, giving the effect of a pretty gorey exit wound. very cool, indeed. if you guys likes DOTD ( 04 ), buy this dvd. btw, i notice CJ had a knack for propane tanks. i.e.: the gun shop, the shuttle escape, and the dock. oh, wait . . . the fence perimeter. nice.

[darkharp]

Is the director's cut entirely different than the actual movie? Cause i'd like the theatre version. Oooh! I got a headstone :lol:
anyways, you're welcome for the welcome. you better enjoy it 'cause i never got one. . . .
Awww... *hugs tight* Welcome to the forum!!!

[dudethatlikeszombies]

*wipes away tear, from eye * thanks.

[dead filmaker]

wow i really love the pumpkin idea i will definetly use that and i also plan on making the "kubuki launcher" i already have a guacamole gun and it is the same thing i just need to figure out how to do the switch for the "kubuki launcher" so if you have ideads for that please help

also on the spliting heads thing they have that hydrolic wench thing that rips the brain chunk out of the fake head baking you can do that so much easir just get the fishing line atached to the fragment and then fill a 2-3 liter soda bottle with sand and throw it in the opposite direction or you could just pullon the sting as hard as you can

but any who welcome to the boards darkharp and i will let you guys know if i get that stuff made

[mAkeshyft]

Here's a picture of my compressed air squib test. I used a hand-pump insecticide bottle and a length of hose, and i think it turned out rather nicely. The scene isn't lit, since it's just a test, so the image looks pretty raw.

http://dsweetman1.photosite.com/~photos/tn/1775_1024.ts1099965265515.jpg

[mAkeshyft]

Another shot from the squib test.

http://dsweetman1.photosite.com/~photos/tn/1776_1024.ts1099967059828.jpg
http://dsweetman1.photosite.com/~photos/tn/1777_1024.ts1099967144609.jpg

A very easy and effective bloodshot effect is to have the talent cup their hands together and fill their hands with fake blood. When action is called, have them throw the blood in the air and react accordingly. Also, the flying drops of blood should be backlit to enhance visibility.

[dudethatlikeszombies]

that . . . is cool.

[zombiekilling101]

nice bodyhits.

Questino for makeshyft: i bought a insecticide sprayer just for this use about a year ago. you can pump it up and than you have the little gun on the end of the tub. Does this one work. casue i dont think it has enough room to shoot out enough air fast enough. how bout you post all the steps, construciton of hit ect. to clear this up. thanx

[dudethatlikeszombies]

yeah, i kinda wanna know about this too. my dad bought an insecticide sprayer to pressure wash our house with.

[mAkeshyft]

The entire process has been explained in detail here:
http://www.exposure.co.uk/eejit/blood/

Scroll down to the part where it says "How to Make Compressed Gas Bullet Hits."

Zombiekilling101, the sprayer you have might be fine: usually you can unscrew those pressure knobs on the end. This will reveal a larger hole that the hose can be fastened straight onto.

As a side note, this method of sfx is a kind of an art form, and requires practice so that when you get on the set, you know how to make everything work right.

[zombiekilling101]

The entire process has been explained in detail here:
http://www.exposure.co.uk/eejit/blood/

Scroll down to the part where it says "How to Make Compressed Gas Bullet Hits."

Zombiekilling101, the sprayer you have might be fine: usually you can unscrew those pressure knobs on the end. This will reveal a larger hole that the hose can be fastened straight onto.

As a side note, this method of sfx is a kind of an art form, and requires practice so that when you get on the set, you know how to make everything work right.


yeah thats where i got the idea from to do it. but i always mess up with the wand.. I'll unscrew that thing though. thanks

[BuTTRockZoBie77]

for squibs i fiquered out that the straight corn syrup fomula does not prove as affective for squibs, i recomend a more watered down version due to the syrup being to thick. also for a good machete to the head as in DOTD 78 you will need blood piping on the head and a machete with a cut out that conforms to the side of the actors head and film in reverse

[as_i_lay_dying]

I really like the toilet paper, with watered down blood. I took a ziplock bag and filled it with ripped pieces of toilet paper, then added water, and then red food coloring, it looked a little to bright but it looked pretty nasty. It deffinetly looked like pieces of guts and blood. Nice.

[tenaciousdirector44]

Here are some gore methods that I use;

Skin- Anything stretchy... If the view is obstructed, and with clever editing, you can use some dough from those canned dinner rolls. This works best when the view is somewhat distant or dark, but it can still hold up up close with good makeup. Use your imagination with the dough. Put a blood tube behind it, and spray blood out if desired.

Blood effects-
One way that I am experimenting with is to use pink, orange ore red water baloons full of fake blood, and throwing them at the person being shot. This works best for headshots. With a quick cut away (the camera), it will look like part of someones head is exploding. Pretty ghetto, and kind of funny, but actually holds up.

Bullet hits to open skin-
Make a peashooter(spitwad) out of something like a pen. Put some fake blood and toilet paper, or a processed pea soaked in blood in it, and use an air compressor with some sort of trigger-blower on it to shoot the objest out at a high speed. WARNING-I DO NOT RECCOMEND USING THIS FOR HEAD HITS! IT COULD PUT OUT AN EYE!
for head hits, use straight blood, and have the actor close their eyes. You've been warned!

Bludgeoning hits to the head-
This only works if the actor is wearing a hat or head covering of some sort. Put a bag of blood in their hat. Try to use it as padding. Have the blood pack be easily broken. When something hits them on the head LIGHTLY, blood will come out. This is dangerous. Make sure that the person hitting the actor doesn't get too excited.

I will be using these effects in my new movie. As you can tell, it's pretty cheap. The effects aren't as important as the content itself, though.

I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF YOUR INJURIES WHILE DOING THESE DUMB,DANGEROUS EFFECTS!

[Onslaught]

I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF YOUR INJURIES WHILE DOING THESE DUMB,DANGEROUS EFFECTS!
you said it.

heres a few tips that ive learned over the years...

liquid latex is your best friend, you can use it in thin layers for peeling skin and burns, or in thicker built up layers for deeper and gashes. it is especially useful for building up the area around a wound.

spirit gum is the most commonly used theatrical adhesive. it should be available from any good halloween shop. it comes off with rubbing alcohol.

fake blood should look different depending on where it is coming from. if blood is pouring out of the body then it should be a brighter red due to the fact that the heart pumps oxygenated blood to the limbs and organs. if the blood is coming from a severed limb or from the liver then it should be darker due to the fact that it is carrying alot of carbon dioxide. this is why veins appear blue and arteries appear red. also, blood should not be translucent ( see-through) it should be quite opaque. this is achieved by mixing flour or cornstarch to water and then mixing it into your blood. this does create a slight separation problem if the blood is stored for any period of time, but all you have to do is shake it and it's ready to go. another thing to remember is that blood is thicker than water, but not by much. so you should try to keep it fairly thin. also, zombie blood (depending on the ripeness of the zombie) should be thicker and darker, almost black or brown.

for hits on open skin: before i go into this, EVERYONE ON THE SET SHOULD BE WEARING FULL FACE PROTECTION SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR PAINTBALL! THIS INCLUDES THE ACTOR! now that i have that out of my system, a paintball marker can be used quite effectively with red paintballs to simulate gunshots. this method should never never never never ever be used for head hits, it is simply too dangerous. a paintball marker is a tool that can be of some limited use in films under the correct safety conditions.

sorry to be a nag but im tired of people getting hurt with paintball markers and having those injuries reflect negatively on a very safe sport.

hope my tips can be of use.

[Fetal Fatality]

I hope no one out there is actually stupid enough to do headshots with a paintball gun.

For The Beyond, I think I heard they used round packets of blood and blew them out of a small pipe aimed at the actor, and for Dawn of the Dead they had fake flesh on the actor's forehead with a string at the end of it and then yanked it off. Maybe there was also a packet of blood underneath the fake flesh.

[tenaciousdirector44]

for Dawn of the Dead '78 they did the fake skin thing, and I heard that they used a small black round pieece of plastic for the hole. The effect is used in creep show only it doesnt look as good (when the guy shoots his wife). What did they use for the blood coming out the back of the head? Were they squibs?

[Morbidfilm]

Onslaught, even though you are anatomically correct with the different shades of blood, It's not really worth doing for one reason. Some people do not care about accuracy and will bitch that your blood color isn't consistent through out the whole movie. And most of the time bright red blood looks really bad in movies. Even Tom Savini now hates his "melted crayons" bright red blood in Dawn of the Dead.
Yeah, Savini always used squibs for exit wounds on back of heads.

[Mr. Grey]

That is awesome! Way to go !

[Onslaught]

I hope no one out there is actually stupid enough to do headshots with a paintball gun.QUOTE]

there is no limit to the stupidity that some people are capable of. especially those who buy paintball markers with lttle or no intention of actually playing paintball.

[QUOTE] Onslaught, even though you are anatomically correct with the different shades of blood, It's not really worth doing for one reason. Some people do not care about accuracy and will bitch that your blood color isn't consistent through out the whole movie. And most of the time bright red blood looks really bad in movies. Even Tom Savini now hates his "melted crayons" bright red blood in Dawn of the Dead.
yeah, i know what you're saying, especially with the different shades. but i wish that people would at least make their blood opaque. i'm sick of seeing blood that looks like red wine.

[MyPetZombie]

hi, I'm new here....

Could some one please post some more info on a 'Butcher knife to the head' special effect...thanx

I can't wait! My first movie goes into production this spring...yay! I'm gonna have one zombie grab this guy by the neck and pull him up into a tree...It's gonna be awesome!

[Prah]

Dude... your zombie is in a tree? :drool:

I'm sure it'll work anyway :)

[drkangel650]

ive got a technical question. most people use the incesticide sprayers to do gas powered blood hits but as a paintballer and one who would rather make things technical i thought up a blood hit powered by CO2 tanks. i have a really REALLY crude drawing of it but youll get the idea (paint is the only thing microsoft did right) ill have it all posted soon so id apreciate any help or comments.

just imagine a co2 tank with a series of valves to control hits.

the site (http://www.livejournal.com/users/lostcausepro05/)

if its not up yet be patient.

thanks

[the_klenzer]

ive got a technical question. most people use the incesticide sprayers to do gas powered blood hits but as a paintballer and one who would rather make things technical i thought up a blood hit powered by CO2 tanks. i have a really REALLY crude drawing of it but youll get the idea (paint is the only thing microsoft did right) ill have it all posted soon so id apreciate any help or comments.

thanks

I used an old Automag as a bloodsplatter delivery system by connecting a hose to the barrel. It worked great. Just don't direct it towards the face as the PSI is pretty high.

[drkangel650]

i thought of that but i must admit my guns sucks so i wasnt sure if it would work. we all bot $100 guns and then they upgraded to tippmanns and left me with my sad little JT. oh well. my wallet pursued this and cars instead

[MyPetZombie]

Dude... your zombie is in a tree? :drool:

I'm sure it'll work anyway :)

yeah....my zombie is in a tree...but that might not work out too well cuz the whole wire/harness thing isnt doin too well....so no more zombie in a tree...*tear*....dont worry....I'll be fine

[Not_quite_dead]

Hey, First time posting here, so be gentle :scare:

My idea is this: I want to have my zombies to wear the same wigs throughout the movie, and when i want to show something bad happening to them, I can green screen in (Yup, homemade green screen. ten bucks worth of newsprint, ten bucks worth of green spraypaint, and two halogen lamps) a video of the same thing happening to a watermelon, spray painted white (I'm doing a bllack and white film right now) with that wig on it it, and thenchanges angles quickly. What say you, my countrymen?

[as_i_lay_dying]

I dont get what your trying to ask

[zombiekilling101]

Green screens are cool.. but dont use it unless it looks good, I hate when low budget movies use greenscreen or cg and it looks shitty, when they just could of done a practical effect anyway.

We had a real green screen in film class... and we put me in 2 fast 2 furious as one of the drivers.... it was damn funny. We also had a music video where we put rodney dangerfield in it... good times.

[devourthesun]

http://www.geocities.com/deathpicture/pictures.html

everything here was done with the carosyrup blood and regular cosmetic make up.

I had more trouble getting the regular make up off then I did the blood.

The only other secret i have for make up effects is if you want good looking flesh wounds, try and buy some of this stuff called "Theater Flesh" or something, i cant remember. Its disgusting shit, but if you play with it enough and use enough make up it looks real. i did this effect on myself with my hand looking like i had run my palm through on something, and my parents had shit fit. had a bigger one when they found out it was fake:lol:

[as_i_lay_dying]

is there anything in this thread explaining how to do like a caste where people can rip into your stomach and pull guts out.
cause I plan on doing it for my next film somehow

[devourthesun]

i would say try using like a fake floor, so the persons torso is up, and the legs are fake. I think making a cast would cost alot of money. not sure though

[swissrebel]

Make a plaster-cast of the stomach, then fill it with liquid latex. Blood packs and gore go under the latex stomach, then apply to the actor. In all the tearing (especially though clothes) people shouldn't notice the extra layers. The latex and plaster aren't really expensive, but it'll never look as good as a fake floor method done properly as devour mentioned.

[Cybopath]

homemade i use is the cryo seryup method.

just get seryup (i dont know how to spell that damn word so bare with me)

and than mix it with read food coloring. you can also put some blue in it to the desired affect. than you can add the amount of water to loosen it up. And just play around with it..but the basic ingredients are water.. red food coloring and cyro sryup.

if you count homemade products as buying appliances and makeup and doing it yourself. than i use that stuff mostly.

Doesn't matter what kind of syrup used, Corn, Golden. As long as it's syrup and relatively light in colour it will work :D.

[Not_quite_dead]

I'm asking for your guys' opinions of this technique. Do you think it will look good?

[devourthesun]

like ZK101 said, Greenscreens and CGI in indies suck.

I would say do a test shot of the effect to just see how it comes out, and if it doesnt work, then try something else.

[Not_quite_dead]

The trick with green screening, (and everything else in any decent movie) is lighting. You have to know how to use it. If You don't, your buggered. The only CGI I'm going to be using is blood and possibly gore.

I did. It resembles a decayed human skull (in terms of resistance) just like I thought.

[devourthesun]

well then go for it
if it looks good then dont worry about it, just go a head and use the effect

[Propaganda13]

is there anything in this thread explaining how to do like a caste where people can rip into your stomach and pull guts out.
cause I plan on doing it for my next film somehow

Inside or outside. Last Resort Man dug a hole in the ground for an outside fake floor. There's a lot of different ways to do this so it depends on your expertise and budget. You can do anything from stuffed clothes with a large bowl of what-not in it, to a duct tape dummy, up to body casting/life casting with products like Smooth-On's Body Double. Also high is your desire to show actual hands penetrating flesh? Good camera angles and sound effects can make the shot look a lot better than a lot of CGI and sound effects. I wish Hollywood would learn that sometimes you're just better off not showing stuff. I can think of several shots that worked so much better by showing the person's face with blood getting splattered on it than actually showing the damage.

[Z Killa]

Any god ideas on how to make a Kabuki Mortar? Just had a thread in Zombie Talk where the guy was wondering how to use a fish tank cleaner to make one(?).

[morbid-slave]

ive just registered on this site today, my friends want to make a film this summer and i want to do special effects, i went to the craft store and bought some plaster and liquid latex, i made a plastercine bite and then cast it with the plaster, then i painnted on the liquid rubber to fill the mold, spirit gum will work to keep it on the skin and then just go over with makeup, im new and would appreciate tips

[as_i_lay_dying]

anyone know where I could get my hands on a rubber axe?
I need one for a short film im gonna make.

[raym]

ok here she goes

intestines and guts:
take toilet paper(cheapest you can find) roll long strips with it like an intentine then run it under the fuacet in the sink add more paper if you need it then take flesh colored latex and cover the gut let it dry and there you go you got intestines do the same thing to make hearts and splines and the like


Too cool! I gotta try it ^_^

Loving this thread.

[as_i_lay_dying]

Im looking for a good realiable website that sells Liquid Latex for cheap.
Also cane someone tell me like step by step how to use liquid latex and what exactly it does. I've never seen or played around with it before and I just dont want to screw anything up. Things I would like to know is.

1. Do I apply anything to skip before applying latex to skin?
2. How do I remove it without buying some fancy remover liquid.
3. What color does it turn out to be after dried?
4. If it doenst turn any color what do I used to make it skin color or so?
5. How fast does it dry?

[9th Lv. Paladin]

I can only answer no.2
I've seen a lot of 'spirit gum remover' and stuff like that, but really all you need is rubbing alcohol.

[Morbidfilm]

The trick with green screening, (and everything else in any decent movie) is lighting. You have to know how to use it. If You don't, your buggered. The only CGI I'm going to be using is blood and possibly gore.

I did. It resembles a decayed human skull (in terms of resistance) just like I thought.
Oh god, please don't use cgi for blood spray. It looks terrible. Even Devils Rejects couldn't get it right. The sight of cgi blood kills all crediblity in a horror movie.
It is not difficult to set up blood tubing. You can buy tubing and pump sprayers at Home Depot.

[bigtuna]

ok, here's another idea for body bullet hits

supplies

Condom
plastic button for dress shirt or something
rubber cement
fishing line
scissors
shirt
tape
sewing needle
fake blood


ok, take the condom, and poke a hole in it with the sewing needle.
then, thread the fishing line through the button, and put the button inside the condom with the string going through the little hole. seal hole with rubber cement. put as much fake blood in the condom as you like, then tape the open part to the actor's body. cut a circle out of the shirt, but leave a piece at the top so at a distance, it doesnt look like there's a hole. when you want it to explode, pull on the fishing line. it will pull the button, breaking the condom and shooting blood through the whole in the shirt.

[zombiekilling101]

the picture with me on the ground with a hole in my head was made by using toilet paper and fake scab.

the pic is in my sig

[theperm]

for chunky fake blood, make a big bowl of jello, then take the jello and chop it up, then add corn syrup with red dye. im not sure how well it works(iv only found this recipe online)

[evil-h]

For a good meaty "been eaten on" look, take Your every day Bucky bone and wrap it haphazardly in soaked, pulpy toilet paper...Once it's wrapped up sufficently (make sure to leave some areas of the bone exposes, to grant the appearance of having been greedily consumed), tap on the soaked toilet paper with Your fingers to get the excess water out...Make sure not to squeeze all of it out though, as You'll want some of it to continue looking engorged and pulpy...

Once You're done, place Your would-be consumed bone in the sun for a few hours, and allow the water to evaporate out of the toilet paper...

Now, take Your would-be consumed bone, once the toilet paper has become hard and cardboard like, and pour fake blood (any kind will do) all over it, making sure to work the blood into the paper via a gentle massage of Your fingers...

Once the toilet paper has absorbed tons of fake blood, You'll be granted one seriously nasty looking consumed body part, with the toilet paper pulp giving the very realistic appearance of having flesh eaten down hungrily to the bone...

[thedeadareliving]

Cooked Beef, + Cornsyurp Blood, serve fresh.

[The Hero]

For dry skin,get pva glue, and smear it over wherever, and peel it a bit.

[thedeadareliving]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f171/Misdemonar/stuf.jpg


I forgot what it's called, but it's for headshots, sorry about the horrible diagram, but a nozzle is put in the next of the jacket, then you have someone hold the pump, and when told clap on it really hard. And make shure the actor is infront of a wall. I'm not shure it works.

[as_i_lay_dying]

Does anyone have any last minute tips for zombie make up, im filming my movie tomarrow, and my friend who does all of our make up cant make it. So I need some tips real fast. I dont have any make up so is there anything i can throw together that can work?

[the tunabomber]

good ideas on an axe to the face with out a prosthetic?

[Phrozin]

I'd say for ax to the face, you can work your way around it with editing. Shoot everything but the person actually taking the axe to the face. Show the guy swinging the ax at the victim, then show another shot, let's say from another angle of the axe guy hitting something off screen causing a blood splatter. Then you could show the victim after the axing.

[Propaganda13]

We have a decapitation scene in the film I'm working on. Even though the blade had no edge, you're still swinging around a big piece of metal, so be careful. One problem that showed up in editing is that the swinger pulled his swing near the head. Plain cuts wouldn't cover up the fact, so that part was speed up slightly. It's a quick cut so hopefully you won't notice it. (Not like a Steven Seagal fight scene)

If I had to do an axe to the face, I'd probably shoot just the axe man swinging into a sack of blood, etc. on a log off camera then pull the axe back.
With the right framing, it will be a cool shot. You'll get the initial blood spray with a solid looking swing then hopefully a nice blood pull spray when you yank the axe back.

We did a head smash where a tree blocked the special fx stuff. The zombie was tied to a tree, so it made sense in our shot. In a freestanding zombie, it might not work so well. Inside a doorframe might work.

I like shots of the hero getting blood on them from something like your shot without trying badly to show the actual action. Example: Ash sawing off his hand with a chainsaw in Evil Dead II.

Good camera shots > bad special fx

[Phrozin]

Even check out the Night remake. Ben stabs a zombie in the head with a tire iron, but you can't see the zombie on the ground. You just see Ben thrusting the tire iron at the ground. It looks a lot worse when you don't show it. Sometimes a well placed cut and a sound effect can do a lot more than special effects.

[the tunabomber]

hey thanx for the help guys....hopefully i'll be able to post some video soon and see what you guys think...

[as_i_lay_dying]

editing is the trick to all low budget special effects!

[ZombieJohn]

I am making a movie with only one gore effect. It is a day after some one has been mutilated so does anyone have any tips on a day old dead person? I think I am going to have the actor wear a white T and have blood and the tissue Idea on him. But I am also not sure what angle to shoot that part from. Any ideas, recent pics or just help?

[zombieslayer69]

im glad someone finally started this thread up again. umm i would say tear a huge whole in the stomach of the t-shirt and use the toilet paper intestines idea along with some other chunky/bloody parts and make it look like his stomach was torn open. if you have to make a fake torso/stomach using latex as skin and fill the inside with all the good stuff, like pumpkin guts that you can dye red.

[BriscoCounty]

Alot of the stuff ive thought of has already been posted, but I did arm breaking before. What I did was have a wide angle shot of someone comign down with a bat at a persons arm. then zoom in on the sleave. Inside the sleave put blood baggies, a thing wood rod, all iside of a cardbard tube. Looks pretty good.

[zombieslayer69]

Alot of the stuff ive thought of has already been posted, but I did arm breaking before. What I did was have a wide angle shot of someone comign down with a bat at a persons arm. then zoom in on the sleave. Inside the sleave put blood baggies, a thing wood rod, all iside of a cardbard tube. Looks pretty good.

i know you said get a good angle but does the arm still look straight and fake, or you could possibly bend the carboard tube some to make it look more realistic.

[BriscoCounty]

Yah ive angled elbows (wood with notches), I havnt bothered to to show a hand, because I hate the look of fake hands generally. Angle certainly played a role, but it got the effect i wanted.

[zombieslayer69]

Yah ive angled elbows (wood with notches), I havnt bothered to to show a hand, because I hate the look of fake hands generally. Angle certainly played a role, but it got the effect i wanted.

ive made a realistic looking hand using some mold stuff i found at hobby lobby, i just molded my hand. itll mold your fingerprints and all, just gotta paint it once it dries, and it takes under 30 minutes to make the mold and fill it and let it drie.

[BriscoCounty]

Okay, cool deal, Thanks.

[zombieslayer69]

what wood do you use inside the carboard, like a dowel or stick or what? or anything would work cause im gonna finish makin one tomorrow and i just wanted to know what you use.

[BriscoCounty]

yah I usually use dowels. Usually half inch diameter, so its not too flimbsy, and supports the arm, but will break. Its just a cheap effect that I think has the effect of an arm snap.

[zombieslayer69]

yah I usually use dowels. Usually half inch diameter, so its not too flimbsy, and supports the arm, but will break. Its just a cheap effect that I think has the effect of an arm snap.

yeah, ill try and get a dowel and maybe ill paint it white so it looks like bone and sounds like one snapping.

[BriscoCounty]

Yah, sounds good. Hope it works for you.

[zombieslayer69]

anyone got any recipes for gore gel blood thats real thick?

[BriscoCounty]

Try this site out for some redipes: http://filmmaking.stormforcepictures.com/howto-makefakeblood.php

[zombieslayer69]

Try this site out for some redipes: http://filmmaking.stormforcepictures.com/howto-makefakeblood.php

thanks for the link, ill have to check tomorrow cause my computers about to crash again.

[zombieslayer69]

thanks for the link, im gonna try the flour based blood cause thats all i have to use right now.

[BriscoCounty]

Yah, and with that you can alter the thickness to your specification which is always nice.

[zombieslayer69]

Yah, and with that you can alter the thickness to your specification which is always nice.

yup, and thats exactly what i was lookin for, thanks.

[Dawnofyourdead]

Alright just got done finishing my film in may im pretty proud of it. But seriously I used no CG and no green screen cause i tried not to make some cheesy indie film. Out of all the expressions my audiences made during a seen, the only seen i am in, I am laying outside by a tree where 2 zombie came around me. one was eating my neck and the other proceeds to rip out my organs. Out of the entire thing that is probably the coolest. I didnt use any plaster or false floor litterly i was laying on the ground wearing a button up shirt the zombie reached in and ripped a gallon size back filled with a full gallon of fake blood and rolled up toilet paper dipped in latex. you never noticed.
But we did have a blooper of a scene i wanted to add but just couldnt when i tranformed into a zombie and started walking around i stood up and my bag fell and hit the floor its quite hilarious

[zombieslayer69]

Alright just got done finishing my film in may im pretty proud of it. But seriously I used no CG and no green screen cause i tried not to make some cheesy indie film. Out of all the expressions my audiences made during a seen, the only seen i am in, I am laying outside by a tree where 2 zombie came around me. one was eating my neck and the other proceeds to rip out my organs. Out of the entire thing that is probably the coolest. I didnt use any plaster or false floor litterly i was laying on the ground wearing a button up shirt the zombie reached in and ripped a gallon size back filled with a full gallon of fake blood and rolled up toilet paper dipped in latex. you never noticed.
But we did have a blooper of a scene i wanted to add but just couldnt when i tranformed into a zombie and started walking around i stood up and my bag fell and hit the floor its quite hilarious

rolled up toilet paper, sounds like a pretty good idea. how much did you use, a whole roll?

[ZombieJohn]

I'm doing a movie right now. I need some quick gore effects please!!!

[BriscoCounty]

what kind?

[zombieslayer69]

I'm doing a movie right now. I need some quick gore effects please!!!

dude you can find everything you need in earlier posts, ive read this whole thing before.

intestines=wet toilet paper and latex
skin=dried latex
squib=2 black cats, baggie, blood, tape and weight training belt
guts=pumpkin guts dyed red

what do ya need?

[Out On the Tiles]

ok i read through the previous posts and didn't see anything that close to what I need to do.

to be honest, this isn't for a zombie movie, but it's a cool piece of gore none the less.

for the opening shot of the movie one of the main characters is looking into a mirror and stabs himself in the throat with a fork. He pulls the fork out and blood spurts on the mirror then gradually stops. He'll be covered in shaving cream so this will make hiding things easier but I'm still not sure where to start with this.

suggestions?

and this is all going to be in one take framed at a medium close up.

[zombieslayer69]

ok i read through the previous posts and didn't see anything that close to what I need to do.

to be honest, this isn't for a zombie movie, but it's a cool piece of gore none the less.

for the opening shot of the movie one of the main characters is looking into a mirror and stabs himself in the throat with a fork. He pulls the fork out and blood spurts on the mirror then gradually stops. He'll be covered in shaving cream so this will make hiding things easier but I'm still not sure where to start with this.

suggestions?

and this is all going to be in one take framed at a medium close up.

if its under shaving cream, the only thing i could think of would be to use some sort of small hand pump with a hose or maybe even a modified squirt gun with a hose attached to the nozzle. thats the only thing i could think of that might work.

[Out On the Tiles]

ok, i like that. but what if I really want him to give himself a good stab? I'd really like the fork to be able to stay in his neck for a second or two also. What about that?

[Exit Wound Bull]

Hay guys, what really worked well (squib wise) you need these items:
-Noise makers (those thing when you throw them at the ground they pop)
-Glad press and seal
-water down blood
-tape
-pellit gun
-small peice of cardboard
-mask so you don't get blood in your eye

1. take out the insides of 15-20 noise makers, make a bag (air tight) out of the press and seal.
2. tape a peice of card board to your skin so you don't burn yourself
3. Make a blood bag out of press and seal or a really easily breakable bag and tape it to the card board.
4. tape the bag of noise makers to the bag of blood
5. put on your mask (or dont) then get someone you trust to shoot the bag of noisemakers (which is under a shirt) and BOOM! Gore

it may or may not create a hole in the shirt

[BriscoCounty]

out of curiosity...when you say pellit gun do you mean the type of pellit gun that would penetrate cardboard and you, or an airsoft gun?

[Exit Wound Bull]

An Airsoft gun(don't use a metal BB gun) or it will penitrate the cardboard and hurt
My friend had an expierience with that, it looked good, but it hurt like a bitch

[zombieslayer69]

what can i use as a cast in a mold for an arm or hand? maybe silicone?

[DanSJVDavis]

Hey all,

Got a number of questions. The first is about Savini's Grande Illusions. Is it worth the purchase? How much is in it for useful tips and effects tricks? I'm trying to figure out how the heck some of the effects were done in the original Day of the Dead, specifically a bit in the extras where they show them cutting the back of a person's hand with a plastic knife and then they tear it off. Anyone know what that stuff was and how to make it? Helping on a movie that has bubkis for an effects budget and need some inexpensive tricks that look good. We've used some of the others listed on here, specifically, the TP and latex intestines (though I used paper towels instead as they are thicker than TP and it worked great).

Thanks a bunch
DD

Edit: Been checking around and I guess the book's out of print, but looks like places still have it used.

[Onslaught]

what can i use as a cast in a mold for an arm or hand? maybe silicone?

it's called alginate.

google it. you want the slow setting stuff from a place that deals with special effects, not the fast setting dental stuff. look for a set time of about 8 minutes, it should be blue.

[Onslaught]

Hey all,

Got a number of questions. The first is about Savini's Grande Illusions. Is it worth the purchase? How much is in it for useful tips and effects tricks? I'm trying to figure out how the heck some of the effects were done in the original Day of the Dead, specifically a bit in the extras where they show them cutting the back of a person's hand with a plastic knife and then they tear it off. Anyone know what that stuff was and how to make it? Helping on a movie that has bubkis for an effects budget and need some inexpensive tricks that look good. We've used some of the others listed on here, specifically, the TP and latex intestines (though I used paper towels instead as they are thicker than TP and it worked great).

Thanks a bunch
DD

Edit: Been checking around and I guess the book's out of print, but looks like places still have it used.


i bought both of them. while they are somewhat helpful, they are really not setup in a "how-to" format. there are other books available, look for them on amazon. i know dick smith has one out, it is also older.

[DanSJVDavis]

I ended up picking up Grande Illusions used and it's pretty cool. Giving me some good ideas and good info too. Now I should go get the second one and the Dick Smith one too, which Savini mentions a few times in Grande Illusions.

I don't mind that it's not a "how to" book. It gives me just enough info by saying "we did blah to make this" that I can go "well, that's cool. I should be able to do blah using the same principle."

[Onslaught]

glad it helped you. post some pics when you do your effects.

[MaxVeers]

Alright...

I'm on the crew for an independent film. I've been going over our effects list, and most of it's pretty simple stuff, but I've seen a lot of examples of other people's work that we just can't do (too expensive, won't work in the shot, or it just plain looks bad).

First of all, the bloodpump everyone is talking about.

We have an insecticide/water sprayer, handpump, and we can use it to run a length of hose to the desired location, when using close-up angled shots, and have the blood spray either from the back/side of the head or from under clothes. The main problems we've ran into here are:

1. When using plain water and doing a few tests with our pump, I've noticed overpumping it makes it spray for a considerably longer time than it should... As in, even after I let go of the button, it keeps spraying. Not good.

2. How do we do the ENTRY wound with headshots? I understand how to do exit wounds (which no one will see, as the blood pump will be squirting out that side and generally onto a wall), but what about the entry holes?


Then, we've got long-range effects. Say someone is picking off zombies from a distance with a rifle, out a window, shooting them as they gather in a field. Since we can't use the pump, and bloodpacket and hand pushes won't make sense (zombies feel no pain, which would they grab their wounds?), squibs seem to be the only solution for bodyshots and back-of-the-head shots. What's the best, yet cheapest way to do these squibs, and how do I make an entry hole for headshots there?

Then, there's gun effects. Most of the guns we've got are either props (airsoft, for example) or unloaded real weapons. How can we make them look like they're actually firing? I've read a site or two on these, but none of them look very good... At all.


Then, there's some lighting trouble.

We have the hero character going upstairs and burning the staircase, so there's effectively no way a ghoul can reach him. How can we do that, in an old, decrepid house, without actually burning the place down? We considered side shots and some flashing light effects, along with adding in some sound effects, but does anyone have any better ideas?

Then, there's the trouble of the house itself. The house has no power, and all our shots are night shots. Our attempts to cover the windows so we could shoot during the day just looked hokey, and they'd still require the same amount of indoor stage lighting as night shots, anyway. We tried a car inverter, and blew it (they're very touchy, and the lights I guess were just too powerful for the little inverter). Then, there's generators, which are too loud and will be heard on set. Any other ideas? Flashlights, even when reflected, seem to look pretty cheesey, as the core and weaker surrounding area are very obvious.

Also, if there are any simple gore effects (exploding heads, body wounds, etc) that would just add effect and make any confrontation scenes between zombies and humans or between disputing survivors, give me some ideas!

I'd appreciate all the help I can get. Thanks.

[Karomaniac]

Okay, so I've made a couple of little movies and tested out some effects... I think for the far away shooting... I'm not sure really for showing entry headshot wounds on impact, but with editting, you can show the person shooting the gun and then from a side angle of the zombies, do squibs (listed earlier)

Personally, I found it actually a really really cheap and seems effective way of doing a blood splatter... (like off screen or scrolling off screen then splatter) is a turkey baster. If you have a bit at the end (test amounts) when you shoot it out, you get a pretty nice splat... best against walls. I did a short movie where it's a fairly intense scene and so you have a bit of a jerky camera, and the one guy puts a gun to my head and then scrolled quickly behind me in the same shot, edit in a gun sound and the guy had his other hand holding the baster and pointed it beside my head. then on the bathroom wall this nice red splat appeared. After that I put in a shot of my head (and the rest of me) hitting the ground, with blood and headshot in my forehead.
I also used it for a chopped off hand where I'm held down on a table like a torture sequence. I was being cheap so I had a glove on and filled the glove with various things to make it look real, and made a fake bit of arm in between (latex over kleenex for skin). I put a small blood bag in the arm and of course my arm is on the table. I put my arm up the sleeve and the baster (filled almost completely with fake blood) under my arm... the guy swings the knife down at my wrist and when the hand seperates.. you get the blood comes out on impact.. then the baster squirts blood out (goes as fast, slow, projected far, or trickled out as you want... depending on how hard you push down on the thing)

Finally, I made a bloody hole/mark on my face... like something ripped off part of my cheek... it came out fairly well. I first put on some liquid latex on my cheek.. then applied some red facepaint around and on it once dried, then started peeling! I applied some fake blood all on and around it.. added a tiny bit of latex on top of that.. and it came out fairly well after about a minute or two of drying..

[MaxVeers]

How do you make a cheap squib?

I've heard aluminum plate, firework in a condom, blood condom around that, and a detonator, but what do you use for a detonator?

[headshotscrazy]

Well over the course of the summer holidays me and my friends are making a horror movie! Ok we have a half decent script ready... Just some spelling mistakes and a few more scenes to do. So anyway i have been looking through here and i am jotting down things that may help along the way of gore and other effects.

Village Of The Dead - This Village Is All But Dead...

Ok if your interested just look in my signiature... Avoid Day 1 on YouTube! Its not that good, and was only a little bit of a practise that has nothing to do with the main storyline! Oh and its days not a whole movie.

[as_i_lay_dying]

Does anyone know how (or have any sites) that show you how to simulate getting shot in the head. Manually, or post production (special efx). Any way to do it and make it look good is good for me.

[veni vechi]

Though I have never had the opprotunity to test any of their effects out, indymogul.com has some good tips for doing effects cheaply. I also found this place http://www.whatcomcountyems.com/pdfs/BASIC%20MOULAGE.pdf
while looking for mortician's wax. It covers how to do some makeup effects, but it doesn't go into a lot of detail.

[as_i_lay_dying]

Though I have never had the opprotunity to test any of their effects out, indymogul.com has some good tips for doing effects cheaply. I also found this place http://www.whatcomcountyems.com/pdfs/BASIC%20MOULAGE.pdf
while looking for mortician's wax. It covers how to do some makeup effects, but it doesn't go into a lot of detail.

I love Indy Mogul, they just posted a new video on exploding heads. Its pretty cool.

[CARLOS]

See No Evil...how you do that machete effect?

[as_i_lay_dying]

I don't know if this is the right place to ask this.(Maybe I should create a thread for this type of stuff) But in my next film I would like to feature a few guys in white chemical suits, with the gas mask (like in The Crazies) anyone know how to make them? Or buy them on the cheap?

[Valentino]

How do you make a cheap squib?

I've heard aluminum plate, firework in a condom, blood condom around that, and a detonator, but what do you use for a detonator?

everyone ive heard some really creative ideas and some really dangerous ideas. in film u need to have a license to use squibs and even if your actors sign contracts you will still be liable for injury if you arent licensed. i know alot of people on here are extremely new to filmmaking so i just want to remind u that the main thing to keep in mind when doing sfx or stuntwork in films is cast and crew safety. be creative. the best idea ive read so far is the pesticide pump, surgical tubing, and a sponge plug. keep it safe guys cause once someone blows a finger off or really gets hurt it can effect them for the rest of their life. Remember fimmaking is about being creative and story telling. SFX are illusions....if u dont have the budget to have it done the way u would really like..do what they do in hollywood....be creative and find new angles, ways to cut, facial expression, sound effects, and the after mess. study some of your fav movies you'll notice even they dont always do the 1 cut 30 second clip of the hit/bleeding/head falling off....you'll notice that movies begin to get cheesey when people work outside of their budget/capabilities. (p.s. its easier to pull off tougher effects with lots of cuts...example watch 28 weeks later...some of the best and most effective gore scenes are short quick and have many cuts/different angles involved) less can be more.

[Morbidfilm]

Valentino is right. You need a pyrotechnics license for squibs. And an inexperience person taping fireworks onto an actors body is dangerous and irresponsible.

[Drfronkensteen]

For prop guns, right now I'm just using cap guns. The film is in black and white, so its suposed to look dumb and campy. I'm also using chocolate syrup as blood. It should be on youtube by January, search "Zomby". You may not think it, but B&W filming makes a bunch of things that you don't have to worry about anymore.

[DanPrs04]

When I was a kid I made squibs with small firecrackers and model rocket ignitors.

Remove the fuse from the firecracker and shove in an ignitor.

Wrap the fircracker in about five layers of duct tape and cut a slit lengthwise from from one end to the other through the duct tape just to the firecracker.

Tape the assembly to a thick leather patch with the slit facing away from the patch then take a condom with fake blood in it and tape this over the squib.

Take a tee shirt and cut a perforated "X" on the area you are you are going to place the squib. Attach the leather/squib pad to yourself and put on the shirt. Hook up the ignition control and push the button.

The small blast should be enough to make it through the shirt.

[Exhume]

Hey all, this thread is awesome.

I liked alot of the ideas mentioned here, particularly the pumpkin guts idea, but I found a few ideas on youtube that I thought you'd all be interested in.

Fake-Guts (intestines)
Start by mixing up some red ballistics gel, then get some beige panty hose, cut off the legs, and fill them with paper towels. then put these in a bowl and pour in the hot red gel. make sure the "intestines" soak all the way through, then put them in the fridge overnight. just before you're ready to shoot, cover them generously with some fake blood. choose your fake blood carefully, as some can be toxic.

Exposed Skull
Test some liquid latex on your actors arm first to make sure they are not allergic!!! Also, if you plan on using latex on other body parts (like legs or arms) make sure to shave the area first if you dont want a painful removal.

Then cover their face (or wherever you want effects) with a thin layer of liquid latex. It will dry clear in a few minutes. Then cover areas you want wounds etc with toilet paper and apply another layer of latex. For the exposed skull, find some white plastic (in this video they cut out a bit of a spray bottle in the shape a circle, but practically anything would work) and stick the plastic onto their head with some more latex, add a layer of toilet paper, and another thin layer of latex. allow to dry, blend everything with makeup (white, grey, etc) and then rip open the toilet paper as necessary, fill the edges with some red/black paint and apply some fake blood. You'll be surprised at how it looks.

Here's the vid: http://youtube.com/watch?v=9DzAwvJCHI0

[georgefox]

for a relly amzing non sticky blood


something called fingerpaint gel (you can get at stores for teachers)
red food color
blue
green



the finger paint gel i buy comes in 4 liter jugs and the color i buy comes in 500 ml bottles


just mix them together till it looks and feels like real blood

[MaxVeers]

Hey all, this thread is awesome.

I liked alot of the ideas mentioned here, particularly the pumpkin guts idea, but I found a few ideas on youtube that I thought you'd all be interested in.

Fake-Guts (intestines)
Start by mixing up some red ballistics gel, then get some beige panty hose, cut off the legs, and fill them with paper towels. then put these in a bowl and pour in the hot red gel. make sure the "intestines" soak all the way through, then put them in the fridge overnight. just before you're ready to shoot, cover them generously with some fake blood. choose your fake blood carefully, as some can be toxic.

Exposed Skull
Test some liquid latex on your actors arm first to make sure they are not allergic!!! Also, if you plan on using latex on other body parts (like legs or arms) make sure to shave the area first if you dont want a painful removal.

Then cover their face (or wherever you want effects) with a thin layer of liquid latex. It will dry clear in a few minutes. Then cover areas you want wounds etc with toilet paper and apply another layer of latex. For the exposed skull, find some white plastic (in this video they cut out a bit of a spray bottle in the shape a circle, but practically anything would work) and stick the plastic onto their head with some more latex, add a layer of toilet paper, and another thin layer of latex. allow to dry, blend everything with makeup (white, grey, etc) and then rip open the toilet paper as necessary, fill the edges with some red/black paint and apply some fake blood. You'll be surprised at how it looks.

Here's the vid: http://youtube.com/watch?v=9DzAwvJCHI0

I used jello and Kool-Aid instead of ballistics gel (without sugar so it wasn't sticky, I suppose I could have used Splenda) and did the guts from panty hose and newspaper. Let em soak, then took em out and let em set. Within a few hours, I had pretty convincing guts, and they stretched and ripped better than they would have had I used ballistics gel. Plus, people were willing to shove em in their mouths (though they did complain that they tasted like unsweetened Kool-Aid... wonder why?).

[willsimonton]

hey everybody new the forums

i think i have something interesting for you guys its a better version of the squib that dosent involve firecrackers or pellet guns heres a few pics ill get instructions for its creation later
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f176/wsimonton/8_1_20074_18PM_0002.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f176/wsimonton/8_8_20075_27PM_0003.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f176/wsimonton/8_1_20073_32PM_0003-1.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f176/wsimonton/8_8_20075_27PM_0004.jpg

hope you guys enjoy

[hitchcockwannabe]

okay so for a nail ripping effect this is what you need

ingredients
-fake nails
-liquide latex
- red food colouring

okay so what you do is cut your actors nail so none of it is sticking off the finger then you mix the liquid latex with the red food colouring and you use that to adhere the nail to one of their fingers.then adhere the rest with the normal nail glue. wait till it dries.(if they are a femeal then paint the nails.) then when shooting this is what you do. you take pliers or twezzers or whatever tools you use and you rip the nail off upward and with the liquid latexs it will tear up like bloody skin it will look great and all that is going to make you audience cringe cause that is a senario that noone wants to see. have fun and bee safe.

[LENNONg]

i am completely new here, found this website searching for some how to gore effects! looks like a good website!

so i'm going to be making a film with my friend, and i have tihs idea for an exploding head (like dawn of the dead 78 or in scanners...)

my thought. use a styrofoam head, empty the inside of the skull out, and drill a hole up to this cavity through the neck. next, make some sort of baggie taht will rip easily (or maybe a styrofoam bowl?), fill it with thick fake blood, fake flood soaked dog food, and whatever else. then after this, use an air cannon (home made using pvc and air compressor) then put this up the fake zombie body, into the hole up the neck.

edit: i just got a thought from indy mogul, using diy balistics gel, fill the inside of the head up and leave a good amount of space on top, fill that with my gory goodness!

blammo! if i can figure out a way to re attach the top of the head fairly well, maybe i can get a full head annihilated! i'll post a video most likely once i do that..

just thought i'd share my idea, cheers all! time to look through the rest of the site lol..

[Carlathezombie]

where can i get liquid latex?

[Frallon]

where can i get liquid latex?

Yes plz tell, this is my thought process downfall as well, bc i do not get it

[rowie]

hey im new here and making a short 10 min for a college project im on a tv and film course and really want to make a zombie short what do you guys use for when a zombie bites into flesh i was thinking of sticking like a steak onto some ones shoulders and putting the fake blood i made into my mouth and just biting it and letting the blood spray out my mouth any other tips would be gratefully appreciated