Uncommonly Thought of Forgotten Gear

[RogueAI]

In the zombie movies the heroes are often forced to flee their safe house at some point. They take with them the essentials. Guns to kill the zombie with, clothing to keep the rating below Adult, on rare occasions food, and often a bag that either contains items that are never used or ever item that the heroes could ever possibly need. What this means is, basically, they always leave their shelter without important gear that will keep them alive.

Thus, I want to compile a list of every important thing that you would never think about grabbing when fleeing zombies. Whats missing in all the movies? Whats your list?

My list;
~Sunblock. Seriously important. Most people in western civilization are pale and not just because of their race but because of indoor jobs. Imagine how much easier it'd be running from zombies without red blistering skin?

~Water filter. When the zombies collapsed western civilization the masses forgot all about water sanitation. Use the bathroom upstream, wash clothes mid stream, and get your drinking water down stream. Good logic, right? I don't think that with zombies trying to eat our Heroes they'll be worried about where they are getting their water from and what they are putting into the water. To keep safe, they shouldn't have forgotten a water filter.

~Clothes. Have you ever noticed that in most movies clothes are wearable for the length of the movie, don't need washing, and are still as fresh as the day they were put on? After day three of running from zombies those clothes will be smelly, sweaty, and ichy. How are you supposed to fight zombies if you have to readjust your manhood between every shot?

~Basic Medical. I don't mean anything fancy of expensive. A bottle of sleep ad, some aspirin, a decongestant, and some cold medicine. Without sun screen, a water filter, and changes of clothing the risk of catching a bug is higher then surfing porn sites without a antispyware/antivirus and a firewall.

[AN OLD SHOE]

good point


i would take clothes,bottled water,water purification, ramen noodles and other non perishable foods, a knife, a tool set, a lock picking set, and a medikit

[Mygeeto]

just a spare bullet - for myself.

[Zombie_215]

My list;
~Sunblock. Seriously important. Most people in western civilization are pale and not just because of their race but because of indoor jobs. Imagine how much easier it'd be running from zombies without red blistering skin?

~Water filter. When the zombies collapsed western civilization the masses forgot all about water sanitation. Use the bathroom upstream, wash clothes mid stream, and get your drinking water down stream. Good logic, right? I don't think that with zombies trying to eat our Heroes they'll be worried about where they are getting their water from and what they are putting into the water. To keep safe, they shouldn't have forgotten a water filter.

~Clothes. Have you ever noticed that in most movies clothes are wearable for the length of the movie, don't need washing, and are still as fresh as the day they were put on? After day three of running from zombies those clothes will be smelly, sweaty, and ichy. How are you supposed to fight zombies if you have to readjust your manhood between every shot?

~Basic Medical. I don't mean anything fancy of expensive. A bottle of sleep ad, some aspirin, a decongestant, and some cold medicine. Without sun screen, a water filter, and changes of clothing the risk of catching a bug is higher then surfing porn sites without a antispyware/antivirus and a firewall.



Good list except for the sleep aid. Being doped up on sleep medicine doesn't seem like a good idea to me! Sleep is important, but being groggy when the zombies find you is a very bad thing! :drool:

[28xxresidentsofevil]

I would bring sunblock, a Ghillie suit to hide, vinegar to hide my scent, nets to trap zombies, medkits filled with anti-septics and band-aids, a coat and maybe some extra barbed wire to keep zombies out of my camp area.

[Darkness]

~Water filter. When the zombies collapsed western civilization the masses forgot all about water sanitation. Use the bathroom upstream, wash clothes mid stream, and get your drinking water down stream. Good logic, right? I don't think that with zombies trying to eat our Heroes they'll be worried about where they are getting their water from and what they are putting into the water. To keep safe, they shouldn't have forgotten a water filter.

"Ummm.... isn't thats suppose to be ''Use the bathroom downstream, wash clothes mid stream, and get your drinking water upstream."? :think:

[Victor Clark]

"Ummm.... isn't thats suppose to be ''Use the bathroom downstream, wash clothes mid stream, and get your drinking water upstream."? :think:

I think he meant to say it that way to expose a survivor's stupidity.......I hope.


Another group of things survivors forget to include in their regimen are tools and suplies for their modes of transportation. If there's a movie about a convoy of survivors, the only thing that meets their concern is gasoline (even though that is a big must-have), even though they should also need oil and oil filters to keep their vehicles in check, along with air tanks for the tires and alternate modes of transport for scavenging like motorcycles and bicycles. If you're in the middle of an abandoned road with zombies surrounding your car, you don't want to be trapped there because of old oil, deflated tires, a smoking engine or the lack of an escape vehicle.

[mattifikation]

a can opener.

honestly, how basic is that one?

[RogueAI]

I think he meant to say it that way to expose a survivor's stupidity.......I hope.


Another group of things survivors forget to include in their regimen are tools and suplies for their modes of transportation. If there's a movie about a convoy of survivors, the only thing that meets their concern is gasoline (even though that is a big must-have), even though they should also need oil and oil filters to keep their vehicles in check, along with air tanks for the tires and alternate modes of transport for scavenging like motorcycles and bicycles. If you're in the middle of an abandoned road with zombies surrounding your car, you don't want to be trapped there because of old oil, deflated tires, a smoking engine or the lack of an escape vehicle.

Actually, I kinda meant that as in not checking whats going on upstream of where your getting your drinking water. In third world countries without indoor plumbing they often have improvised areas for that sort of thing with the town itself being the downstream bathroom. Its not planned out by everyone. Most people just don't want to drink bowl movements so they head up stream to get their water naturally. However, if zombies attacked, I don't think westerners would even think about whats going on upstream... which, in 99% of cases, will be highly polluted for weeks-months after Z-Day anyway (farm run off, factories, ect).

You bring up a great point on vehicles. Some times gas isn't even mentioned in the entire movies, and when it is they always forget about the endless other things needed to keep your vehicle moving fast enough to outrun zeds for long enough to get where your going. Longterm nomadic survival in a vehicle is often not practical but it is possible.

[Corpse Grinder]

In the post-cell phone era movies you never see at least one person with a cell phone. At least it was realistic for Anna to grab her keys and jump out of the window in her pajamas in DOTD '04, but none of the other survivors had cell phones.

Sure, I might be panicking if I was at home and my cell phone is recharging and I don't think about it or have time to get it; but if I was out and about and have it on me like the majority of people, then I'd see no reason why I or others wouldn't have a cell phone.

The signals may be busy at first, but eventually you'd be able to get through to someone if they're still alive and have their cell or home phones and you or another survivor has a compatible recharger.

Other than that, unless you're prepared for any disaster and have an emergency pack in your house/car, then you're basically stuck with whatever situation you're in and have to deal with it.

[zephyr]

dental hygenie-related. Toiletries.
And toilet paper. (Amazing a bit of toilet paper makes going to the bathroom so much more sanitary and civilized)

According to several people I know very well, dental problems, such as a toothache can cause pain so severe that you want to kill yourself to escape the pain. I had my wisdom teeth pulled several years back and I an tell you, the pain is absolutely unbearable. My parents has goes though was decayed teeth that attacked the nerves when they were children, Taiwan 1960s.

Somethings as simple and important as the toothbrush is commonly forgotten in every single non-planned outing.

And not all people are as prone to tooth decay as everyone else. I have very soft teeth, which means if I don't brush for like a week, I would get a cavity. Two days if I drink or eat anything sugary.

[8mmUltra]

Uses for the P38 (can opener)
This list of P-38 uses was compiled by Steve Wilson, MSG Proponent NCO, Dept. of the Army Office of the Chief of Chaplains, The Pentagon. It is posted at the Ft. Bliss Air Defense Artillery Museum among other places:
1. Can Opener
2. Seam Ripper
3. Screwdriver
4. Clean Fingernails
5. Cut Fishing Line
6. Open Paint Cans
7. Window Scraper
8. Scrape Around Floor Corners
9. Digging
10. Clean Out Groove on Tupperware lids
11. Reach in and Clean Out Small Cracks
12. Scrape Around Edge of Boots
13. Bottle Opener
14. Gut Fish (in the field)
15. Scale Fish (in the field)
16. Test for 'Doneness' When Baking on a Camp Fire
17. Prying Items
18. Strip Wire
19. Scrape Pans in the Field
20. Lift Key on Flip Top Cans
21. Chisel
22. Barter
23. Marking Tool
24. Deflating Tires
25. Clean Sole of Boot/Shoe
26. Pick Teeth
27. Measurement
28. Striking Flint
29. Stirring Coffee
30. Puncturing Plastic Coating
31. Knocking on Doors
32. Morse Code
33. Box Cutter
34. Opening Letters
35. Write Emergency Messages
36. Scratch an Itch
37. Save as a Souvenir
38. Rip Off Rank for On-the-Spot Promotions
39. Bee sting removal tool (scrape off w/ blade)
40. Sharpen stick or pencil

Many more uses for the P38, very valuable in a survival situation I recommend to sharpen the curved blade part to help aid in gutting, cutting fish and game as I do on my P38.

Merry Christmas to all

[Dagnammit]

just a spare bullet - for myself.

Nah - show some spirit and use it on the last bastard that tries to bite you!! If you're being eaten by zombies you an always speed up the process by offering your jugular.

[Fragilistick]

Razor, shaving cream, condom ( you never know ), batteries, all-purpose industrial strength bleach and a cat.

all the essentials for extended life, I plan on commandeering a wal-mart.

maybe a dirty magazine. (I can wash it later)

[Boozbie]

Basically just pack like your going on a really lightweight long distance camping trip. A lot of the things mentioned above are good just think ahead and imagine how a day would look like from start to finish and think of everything that would come in useful or you need then you need to make that stuff as compact/lightweight as possible

Small tarps or clear plastic sheets!! i dont know how many times these have saved my ass from waking up soaked tent rain fly's and ground covers will not keep you dry in the rain.

extra socks!
length of rope
string or paracord
Small pot for cooking
bar of soap
Razor blade needles thread
bag of rice
lighter, waterproof matches, magnesium stick
leatherman
bivouc bag

It would be a lot like boy scouts if you had a really psycho troop

[Countbad]

Survivalist schools of thought recomend that you carry 3 different items or know 3 methods to accomplish the basic essential needs. Like 3 ways to purify water, 3 ways to start a fire, 3 ways to catch wild game.

Also a really good survival related item is one of those crank powered radios. Dont have to worry about batteries.

[Boozbie]

Never heard that but thats a good rule to live by, simple.

[hatefuldisplay]

Survivalist schools of thought recomend that you carry 3 different items or know 3 methods to accomplish the basic essential needs. Like 3 ways to purify water, 3 ways to start a fire, 3 ways to catch wild game.That seems quite practical. Thus, carrying tools that have multiple uses. For example, a military entrenching tool would be one of my main choices. It can serve as a club for starters. It is also meant for digging and can be used to dig traps, dig fighting positions, or dig areas up for gardening. It also folds to a small size if you don't have the handy carrying case, which easily clips to the outside of packs.

I believe having three ways to do all necessities is only practical when you double or triple item uses. Otherwise, you best be stationary or have something that allows you to carry a lot of weight and bulk while still being maneuverable.

[Countbad]

Hatefuldisplay, you hit it right on the head with the multi-tools. They are extremely valuable. If something is worth carrying around in a life or death situation, it better be damn useful.

The rule of 3 isnt just about gear. Its also about knowledge. You dont have to have gear to accomplish something 3 different ways, (your exactly right it would weigh you down) but you need to know three different methods of getting something done. For example for getting fresh water I have a hiking water filter, a pot to boil water, and a couple dozen water filtration tablets as a last resort. But yeh too much gear will weigh you down and you'd be as slow as a zombie.

Or for self defense, you can have a firearm, a knife and even a sturdy hardwood stick. Which can also be used for catching game; building a shelter or preparing game; or helping you walk respectively.

[3xmortis]

If the outbreak was caused by say a virus or disease, all these things mentioned above could infect you with the virus.....for example, drinking from a stream...its likely that all the way down the sream there could be an infected body rotting in to the water. and you cud be drinking his decaying flesh. a toothbrush. they say that a toothbrush can collect fecile matter from the air if left near a toilet. if the virus or woteva is airborne, the same thing could happen. any food that isnt canned could be infected. that can opener that you found in that abondened store could have been used to split a zeds head open, and u would use it ot open ur food. Any medical tablets, say panadol, could have been contaminated during the initial stages of the outbreak, and therefore could kill you. So in conclusion to my rambling, if it is a virus or disease, liquid or airborne, all our basic needs could **** us up :scare:

[skullwarrior]

If the outbreak was caused by say a virus or disease, all these things mentioned above could infect you with the virus.....for example, drinking from a stream...its likely that all the way down the sream there could be an infected body rotting in to the water. and you cud be drinking his decaying flesh. a toothbrush. they say that a toothbrush can collect fecile matter from the air if left near a toilet. if the virus or woteva is airborne, the same thing could happen. any food that isnt canned could be infected. that can opener that you found in that abondened store could have been used to split a zeds head open, and u would use it ot open ur food. Any medical tablets, say panadol, could have been contaminated during the initial stages of the outbreak, and therefore could kill you. So in conclusion to my rambling, if it is a virus or disease, liquid or airborne, all our basic needs could **** us up :scare:
thats why you bring industrial strength bleach/disinfectant with you when you think something might not be clean.

[Faran Brigo]

Well regardless of dead bodies, it's generally a bad idea to drink from a steam in North America. Odds are, it'll be either infected with harmful microbes (you're good to go with a little bleach) OR and this is the kicker, it'll contain toxic chemicals (screw the bleach).

The toothbrush bit is unfounded, and unless you're not using water on your toilet, it doesn't make sense. If the virus WAS airborne, then you're screwed, period, don't worry about water or food or anything, you breathe it, you die.

I'm pretty sure if the can opener was used on a zombie, it would be bloody (and the attacker would have died, you can't use a can opener to split a head) and if you use a can opener with dry blood on it to open your food then you're probably too dumb to have made it to the point where you have to worry about food.

Oh yeah, and all medicines come sealed. Again if you pick tablets off the floor you're asking to get sick and die, zombie holocaust or no zombie holocaust.

[Faran Brigo]

Also, I might get laughed out of the forums for this but I got a few ideas that I'd like to bounce off you all:

Large Industrial crayon or marker: For signaling, maybe leaving messages for other possible survivors, etc. Lighter than spray paint can.

Pen and paper scraps: are you sure you can remember ALL the stuff you wanted to scavenge? how about the location of supply caches? organization's important now, I can't imagine it not being important in a world where forgetting a small detail might result in starvation, or at least a second, dangerous and unnecesary trip.

Large and smaller screwdriver: Flat for obvious reasons. Preferably the kind that you can also strike with a hammer, without breaking the handle.

Hammer: Invaluable for improvised fortifications, pulling out nailed stuff and breaking through thick glass or not-so-thick wood. Can be used with the large screwdriver to open some locks (seriously). Can also be used as a weapon of last resort (hopefully it won't come to that).

high purity strong acid: Hard to find, but a small bottle of the stuff would help you dissolve small padlocks, wire, and other stuff quietly and without effort. Again like the hammer, can be used as a weapon (not against zeds though...).

firecrackers: The noise, stink and flash may create a useful distraction against zeds (as long as they didn't see or hear you first) or stun living hostiles. Possibly useful for detonating gas plumes or setting gasoline or diesel ablaze safely.

Metallic trash can lid: Or something similar. Could be used to bash a zombie in close quarters to push it back and keep it from biting or scratching you. Since most of us aren't skilled at that kind of fighting, the bigger the better, as long as it's not too heavy. If it tries to tug at it, all the better, use the distraction to bash or pierce its skull.

[DarthJoe8]

The toothbrush bit is unfounded, and unless you're not using water on your toilet, it doesn't make sense. If the virus WAS airborne, then you're screwed, period, don't worry about water or food or anything, you breathe it, you die.

I'm pretty sure if the can opener was used on a zombie, it would be bloody (and the attacker would have died, you can't use a can opener to split a head) and if you use a can opener with dry blood on it to open your food then you're probably too dumb to have made it to the point where you have to worry about food.

If zombies are storming my house the last thing I'm thinking about is my toothbrush.:loon:I'll pick one up on the run.

Assuming the zombie outbreak is airborne. The virus itself doesn't kill you, it's if you die you get reanimated. Key here is that you have to die. I wasn't crazy about DotD04 "if your not bitten when you die then you don't come back" didn't like that at all. That would assume the outbreak began by a zombie bite and spread. Maybe.

You can use a can opener on a zombie if you want but if that's all i have to fight a zombie then i'm running not fighting.:lol: The can opener is for canned goods. The most reliable safe food available would be canned.

About the water, sure its polluted. Your tap water that your drinking right now is probably polluted. In a outbreak i would stick to bottled or canned liquids if i did not have a clean source of water. Getting sick would suck. Iodine tablets, filter straws and such are great. I use filter units for camping so i don't have to pack water. Water weighs 8lbs per gallon and is cumbersome. Filters weigh a few onces.

If you have the time to gear up great but if not....

Pack light, your on the run. Gun, bullets, clothes on your back, boots, flashlight, knife. Everything else is a luxury that hopefully can be gotten later after you've gathered your wits and maybe found some other survivors to carry the extra gear.:drinking:like beer

[Faran Brigo]

If the virus itself doesn't kill you, then it doesn't matter if your toothbrush is full of it, my point still stands.

As for the necessities, water's a necessity, not a luxury. You won't last more than a few days without water. I don't drink tap precisely for the reason you mentioned but even so, water treatment standards mean that even if it IS poluted, it's not as poor quality as you can find in plenty of streams. This is especially true if you live near appalachia or in Pensylvannia where decades of coal mining have caused a heavy metal and acidity problem in the ground and stream water. I'm not sure if you could filter out all the dangerous stuff or if it would put too much of a strain on the filter.

But yeah I agree with the pack light principle. It's just that I think you shouldn't be in a position where you're running around picking stuff from your house before the zombies crash through your door in the first place.

[DarthJoe8]

But yeah I agree with the pack light principle. It's just that I think you shouldn't be in a position where you're running around picking stuff from your house before the zombies crash through your door in the first place.

Totally agree with you. Expect that you'll have to leave your home. Prepare for the worse.

I'm not sure what thread i posted this in but personally if it was to go down, the first thing i'd do would be to pack up gear on my 4wheeler in my attached garage. It has 2 doors so its a fall back point for me and the wife. I also live in a wooded area so if i did lose the house i'd head out into the sticks.

I understand the importance of water, my point was that its safer to use prepackaged beverages and food as opposed to drinking out of a stream.

I'm an advocate of staying out of populated areas and savaging abandoned homes. Hopefully I can find a beer.:drinking:

[doctorsatan]

well i'd bring me ghille, scentblok, basic med kit ohh and my good ol explosives to give the dead heads a run fir there m:mrgreen:ney

[AN OLD SHOE]

i plan on packing a simple back pack(the one i take to skool) and a duffle bag( kind of bag you use for packing stuff when going on a planetrip)

the back pack will have 3 pairs of underwear,5 pairs of socks, a spair pair of pants and another t-shirt....by then its geting pretty packed full so i would use the spair space to fit my 2 med kids and medicines(like asprin and cold medicine).....oh and lastly dental gear such as floss,toothbrush,and mouth wash

the duffle bag will be filled with 21 bottles of water and 15 canned goods and 15 pakcs of ramen noodles,along with 9 packs of beef jerky....that covers the food for when im on the run....so now onto the other stuff i would pack...toilet paper..5 rolls of it,rubbing alcohol,5 rags,a razor,a pair of scissors,and the side pockets will be filled and stuffed with full magazines for my dads glock so thats alot of 9mm ammo i hope haha...

i plan on duct taping my k-bar knife to a broom stick, making a spear..thats my weapon...and the glock

[DarthJoe8]

well i'd bring me ghille, scentblok, basic med kit ohh and my good ol explosives to give the dead heads a run fir there m:mrgreen:ney

You mention scent block. One thing that i've always thought about and i've only
seen it addressed in one place and that is how do zombies find there victims?

Besides the obvious sight/movement/noise but what about smell. Why don't they attack each other?

In the comic the Walking Dead a couple of the characters where going into the city for provisions and on the way in they found a rotten corpse and smeared themselves with it with the hopes that it would mask there sent. Well, it worked.:) I thought that was really cool.

Of course it started to rain and the zombie sent washed off and the zombies started to attack, but thats another story. Oh did I mention that they puked from the smell?:scare:

I'm not sure if a sent blocker would be enough to keep zombies off of you. For hunting it helps to use sent control measures but if the animal is down wind all the blockers in the world won't work. Even sent maskers are only so efficient. :drinking:

[doctorsatan]

You mention scent block. One thing that i've always thought about and i've only
seen it addressed in one place and that is how do zombies find there victims?

Besides the obvious sight/movement/noise but what about smell. Why don't they attack each other?

In the comic the Walking Dead a couple of the characters where going into the city for provisions and on the way in they found a rotten corpse and smeared themselves with it with the hopes that it would mask there sent. Well, it worked.:) I thought that was really cool.

Of course it started to rain and the zombie sent washed off and the zombies started to attack, but thats another story. Oh did I mention that they puked from the smell?:scare:

I'm not sure if a sent blocker would be enough to keep zombies off of you. For hunting it helps to use sent control measures but if the animal is down wind all the blockers in the world won't work. Even sent maskers are only so efficient. :drinking:

true but it would more or less mask me if i'm huntin, or if it works with the dead heads i'd use it, for all i know it might atrack them to me but i detest.

[Zombreach]

As a contact wearer, I would have to say my glasses are a must have. One day without removing my contacts and my eyes are toast. I wouldn't be able to see the zombies with dry, burning eyes.

[blaje]

Gold Bond!!!
can you imagine running from zombies for days with chaffed thighs/balls?

another one is


Spray Paint
This may sound like a non necessary object but with it you could leave large visible signs and directions for other survivors that could be following you.
:zom3::rimshot::rock:

[Faran Brigo]

Large Industrial crayon or marker: For signaling, maybe leaving messages for other possible survivors, etc. Lighter than spray paint can.


Spray Paint
This may sound like a non necessary object but with it you could leave large visible signs and directions for other survivors that could be following you.
:zom3::rimshot::rock:

You get bonus points for originality. :roll: And obviously, yes I agree with the principle.

[blaje]

didn't even see faran brigos post, the only thing i disagree with the marker is if you've ever used a sharpie magnum, the writings not very big and the tip gets wore out from writing even though it would last longer.
maybe if you made a marker like with some india ink and a sponge slice or something i don't know,

[DarthJoe8]

The spray paint can be used offensively by spraying it into the eyes of a Zed.:scare: Or to paint windows so passing Zeds won't notice movement inside the dwelling.:think:

[Faran Brigo]

The spray paint can be used offensively by spraying it into the eyes of a Zed.:scare:

What for?

Or to paint windows so passing Zeds won't notice movement inside the dwelling.:think:

True

[DarthJoe8]

What for?



True

So they can't see you of course.:loon:

[Faran Brigo]

Ok, think about this. The eye is the first thing to decay when you die, it's rich in fluid and soft, and zombies often have white-ish eyes, which makes sense since they don't lacrimate. Zombies are also attracted often by sound. All of this points to one conclusion:

Zombies don't rely on eyesight as much as living humans, so blinding a zombie would be of dubious utility. If you're close enough to actually blind one with paint spray, then he can probably hear and smell you and he most certainly can grab you.

[DarthJoe8]

Ok, think about this. The eye is the first thing to decay when you die, it's rich in fluid and soft, and zombies often have white-ish eyes, which makes sense since they don't lacrimate. Zombies are also attracted often by sound. All of this points to one conclusion:

Zombies don't rely on eyesight as much as living humans, so blinding a zombie would be of dubious utility. If you're close enough to actually blind one with paint spray, then he can probably hear and smell you and he most certainly can grab you.

My zombie hating friend, I was just pulling your leg.:drinking: Though it would make a funny scene.:lol:

Running is better than confrontation IMO.

[BarnabusBlackoak]

I got one! This is a must have, to keep in your trunk. It'll come in handy when the zombies come, or when fleeing alien invasion and the gas stations are all closed.

Gasoline syphon pump
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[zmbvan]

I got one! This is a must have, to keep in your trunk. It'll come in handy when the zombies come, or when fleeing alien invasion and the gas stations are all closed.

So have you been stealing gas then?:lol:

Not a bad idea. I didn't realize that there was such a thing, but I suppose it makes sense to have them around. In case of the ZA it would be a great thing to have on hand.

[Faran Brigo]

Let me tell you, what I told my ex girlfriend, which thinking about it might be the reason why she's my EX girlfriend. "Just use your mouth"

Seriously that's all you need, well that, a hose and a container for the gas

[blaje]

the things i think that people don't think about when planning for zombie resistance gear, are the normal annoyances when camping/hiking etc. and small things to make you feel a little more at home.
for instance some necessary supplies:

-Caladryl cream-For Poison Ivy, Bug Bites etc.
-Coffee grinds(coffee's easy to make with just boiling water and the grinds)
-IBprofen!!( A Must have, can't be evading the living dead with aching muscles from the day before!)

[BarnabusBlackoak]

Let me tell you, what I told my ex girlfriend, which thinking about it might be the reason why she's my EX girlfriend. "Just use your mouth"


and like your 'ex' the reason, I don't want to use my mouth is so I don't accidently 'swallow'. :)

[blaje]

and like your 'ex' the reason, I don't want to use my mouth is so I don't accidently 'swallow'. :)

hahahaha Nice!:lol:

[mass casualty]

Frying PAN!

[BarnabusBlackoak]

hahahaha Nice!:lol:

Thank yew!:)

[mass casualty]

How about some candles?

[zmbvan]

How about some condoms? The last thing I would want is an STD during the zombie apocalypse. Plus, if you did find a women, would you want to get her pregnant, or viceversa? Really it is a good idea imo

[Faran Brigo]

Candles are great, I don't think the power will last very long. They're only of use indoors though, but it's better than being in the dark for sure.

Condoms can also be good to protect gun barrels, or so I've heard.

[AN OLD SHOE]

i heard the same about condoms protecting gun barrels...depending on what kinda condom you get...

alot of people forget 2 things...

a encyclopedia or a large book of knowledgable material..and a rubiks cube..you have to keep your brain strong...

[Faran Brigo]

Rubiks cube maybe, encyclopedia? I'd rather carry that weight in ammunition or water.

[AN OLD SHOE]

well i was just saying...you need some form of entertainment and a way to keep your brain from turning to moosh...

[Faran Brigo]

shooting zombies is fun enough, but I definitely agree on the whole mooshy brain issue

[AN OLD SHOE]

yeah especially if other survivors come intoyour safe zone..you need to appear as the smartest person there so everyone will listen to you...

[BarnabusBlackoak]

deck of cards to while away the hours boarded up in the farmhouse?

[AN OLD SHOE]

cards would be great! not only for games but you can build stuff too!

and id like maybe 1000 dominoes to make a really sweet design to destroy...

a sling shot is also a good weapon..and some marbles....it would just be fun to hit zombies haaha

a bucket will also be needed eventually so you can :poo: and stuff...

[Barbara]

This may sound dumb, but a good sport dog would be helpful.

Perhaps he or she could scout areas out maybe draw out a few zeds--cause we all know they dont eat dogs..I think.

It would be nice to have something with that extra sense for danger.

[DarthJoe8]

This may sound dumb, but a good sport dog would be helpful.

Perhaps he or she could scout areas out maybe draw out a few zeds--cause we all know they dont eat dogs..I think.

It would be nice to have something with that extra sense for danger.


I was just thinking the same thing. Though it might be more of a hindrance as the dog could give you away.:think: It could also be an early detection system and could also help by causing a distraction to the zeds. In the end you can always eat the dog for food.

[zmbvan]

Dogs would be great to have around. Unless they ate some flesh from a zombies corpse, then you have a zombie dog on your hands. But I am sure dogs would be smart enough not to partake in feasting on dead bodies. Which would be another problem, a dog is just one more mouth you need to feed, but then again I suppose if it was a hunting dog it could help in hunting for deers or turkeys. So, I do believe a dog could be a vital asset during an outbreak.

[AN OLD SHOE]

carrier pidgeons or any kind of messaging bird would b really important to..they are smart...

[detpat]

I've served with people who aren't as smart as your average bird........just sayin

[DarthJoe8]

carrier pidgeons or any kind of messaging bird would b really important to..they are smart...


Night of the Living Dead LONDON. Highlights what the royals are doing. Great read, Clive Barker writes it. Anyway, they used carrier pigeons to communicate with other royal houses in Europe.

Problem with this method is that you need others to communicate in the same way. Not sure how pigeons know where to go.:think:

[Faran Brigo]

I'm not sure if animals can be considered "gear". That aside I think it's an all around hindrance, it's another mouth to feed and the pros come with heavy cons as well. Personally, I'm not an animal person, and that's very important if you're going to be working with dogs and such.

[DarthJoe8]

I just mentioned this in another thread but it should be mentioned here as well.

Goggles or some form of eye/face protection. In most of the movies infection only passes via a bite.

But what if blood splatter were to get into your eyes or mouth? I imagine that the virus could be transfered that way. I wouldn't want to find out the hard way.

I think small lite weight swimmers goggles would work and anything covering the mouth area would probably work.:think:

[AN OLD SHOE]

im going to wear a painters mask thing or a surgical mask

[Faran Brigo]

But what if blood splatter were to get into your eyes or mouth? I imagine that the virus could be transfered that way. I wouldn't want to find out the hard way.


If we're talking about Romero zombies, they're not infected, anyone who dies regardless of the method comes back as a zombie, Romero said it himself. That's beside the point though, which is that a zombie's mouth is full of putrescent nasty slime that will at the least make you really ill if it hits your eyes or mouth.

Any kind of safety glasses will work fine, and probably even some kinds of sunglasses and the like (the larger ones). Anything that prevents splatter from reaching the eyeball.

As for the mouth, just keep it closed man :lol:

[DarthJoe8]

If we're talking about Romero zombies, they're not infected, anyone who dies regardless of the method comes back as a zombie, Romero said it himself.

Yup yup,very true.

That's beside the point though, which is that a zombie's mouth is full of putrescent nasty slime that will at the least make you really ill if it hits your eyes or mouth.

Yuk:puke:

Any kind of safety glasses will work fine, and probably even some kinds of sunglasses and the like (the larger ones).

Are you talking about those granny glasses that wrap around the entire head? As seen on TV. :lol:

As for the mouth, just keep it closed man :lol:

So true.:drinking:

[BelowTheMorgue]

As far as a list goes i'm not sure but an axe would deffinatly be good because that would make everywhere excessable. But the most important thing to bring by FAR (in my opinion) would be a map of the area like the whole province or state. It's always better to know where your going.

[fester_hicks]

I'd also try to grab some of those pull-snapper fireworks, to use for advance notifications, lol!

[Darkness]

"GLOW STICKS!!" :)

"They can light your way all night and don't require batteries. You can use the liquid inside to mark a trail that can only be seen with a black light, or UV light. They are light and easy to find sources for. (Dollar stores, party stores, novelity stores, etc.) And when done with it, you just toss it." :)

[zmbvan]

Darkness are you a club kid? :lol:

Not a bad idea and it is more safe than a flare.

[fester_hicks]

I would also take cartridge fired spikes, for securing metal plates to concrete, quickly!

[Barbara]

"GLOW STICKS!!" :)

"They can light your way all night and don't require batteries. You can use the liquid inside to mark a trail that can only be seen with a black light, or UV light. They are light and easy to find sources for. (Dollar stores, party stores, novelity stores, etc.) And when done with it, you just toss it." :)



When you hear the techno beat, you know darkness is a-comin'! :)


I think lighters and matches are always good to have.

[Shadowalker191]

1 item commonly overlooked is fire starting gear,

Going by its brand name I keep 5 units of Swedish FireSteel and 5 Cans of MayaDust on hand, one set in each of my gear bags.

Following info stolen from other web sites for Description.

The Swedish FireSteel has these great features.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/Shadowalkergmail/light_my_fire-solo.jpg

Lights campfires, stoves, gas-barbecues
Uses a magnesium alloy that consists of 7 metals
Lasts for approximately 12,000 strikes
Produces a spark temperature close to 3,000°C (5,500°F)
Bright spark – can be used as emergency signal
Functions in rain and snow
Dimensions: main component is approx. 3.75" long
Weight: approx. 1.9 ounces

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/Shadowalkergmail/maya_dust.jpg

MayaDust - a fire starting material made from Pino de Ocote, a fatwood pine cultivated in the highlands of Guatemala and Mexico. With an 80% resin content, MayaDust is easy to light even when wet and produces an extremely hot flame.

[Darkness]

"Give me a bit of wax, a lock of hair, and a flint-n-steel and I can start a fire anywhere." :)

[fester_hicks]

I would also have a handful of skeleton keys..

just in case

[Lazerbeak]

I would make sure to have a good leather belt on my person at all times. Where else would you keep your leatherman, gun holsters, and assorted tools?

In my case I'd bring an extra pair of running shoes as well as Tinactin to keep athletes foot at bay. You can't escape the undead if your feet are hamburger.

I would also have a flashlight that I can strap to my forehead (so I can keep my hands free to use other tools).

Local maps are lightweight and can save your life if you get lost (gotta know where the local mall is!)

I would also carry some good leather gloves in case I have to scramble over barbed wire pick up hot/cold/sharp/wet items and to protect my skin. If I have to slug it out with a zombie I'd much rather keep some cowhide between me and it!

[redskul83]

I've always thought that having a base is great, but what about food and such? Once you run out I'd love to have some bikes (not motorcycles) for scouting, they're fast and quiet and if you really need it you can put bags on them for carrying things. What do you think?

Note: they would NOT be for fighting, and nothing more then a knife (or sword) would be carried.

[Bob]

The two most important things to have in your pocket

1. A knife
2. A butane lighter.

[Darkness]

"As far as a lighter is concerned, a Zippo is better, because it will burn anything with enough alcohol content." ;-)

[Devilspaintbrush]

hmm

lots of great replies here


if I were in that situation

I would have a bug out bad ready to go if I had to make a run for it

it would have

a copy of Cody Lundins book 98.6 degrees

a copy of Mors Kochanski's book

basic first aid kit

4 extra large unlubbed condoms (water carrier)

Iodine for water purification (also works well for cuts)

2 quart qiplock bags

large Bandana (carry water and for tourniquet etc)

Waterproof matches

Firesteel

2 or 3 spare lighters wrapped in duct tape

petroleum jelly soaked cotton balls (tinder)

large piece of aluminum foil

a good sharp spare knife (one of mine or a Mora)

A large knot of paracord

one spool dental floss

small fishing kit

large 8 hour candle

spare flashlight

spare batts for the flashlight

spare leatherman

metal canteen cup (boil water)

2 large snicker bars

duct tape wrapped a 1 quart water bottle

Spare 22Lr pistol for hunting (spare ammo)

Spare high cap pistol (spare ammo and mags)

spare ammo for shottie and rifle if applicable

spare machete with paracord and duct tape wrapped sheath

pair of gloves

1 pair of wool socks

1 pair of cotten socks

foot powder


thats about it for the basics

[Trumble0]

In my pockets everyday I carry a Zippo which i regularly refuel, and a knife... everyone asks me why I carry a Zippo even though I don't smoke, and I tell them the ability to have portable fire is a huge advantage in case I get lost, or what not, or in case society collapses. And a knife is always handy for opening things, cutting things, defending yourself... I keep a 4 inch blade gerber skelton frame with a smooth edge with a serated groove towards the bottom. I just always think its better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. My backpack also has a military 90 degree flashlight with various color filters, and people have asked me why I carry a flashlight and I give the same response, for In case the SHTF. pretty soon when I get my CCW I'll have a gun on me at all times too. I just think its smart to have some equipment not too far away if not on your person for any kind of situation even ones that dont involve Zombies. :lol:

[Bob]

Butane lighters are more tolerant of water than a zippo.
They will also keep for years whereas a zippo will dry out.
I smoked for over 30 years so I had my share of both.
I knew people who fueled their zippo with gasoline and other unknown flamables.

[Trumble0]

I agree with what some others have said... Id make sure I have a ton of socks... I change my socks once a day around mid day and I can attest to the comfort you get instantly from a fresh pair of socks. Especially if youre out humping it for days, your feet would get very bad blisters if you didnt change your socks, and even then probably wouldnt be all good.

[bandits1]

Butane lighters are more tolerant of water than a zippo.
They will also keep for years whereas a zippo will dry out.
I smoked for over 30 years so I had my share of both.
I knew people who fueled their zippo with gasoline and other unknown flamables.
Yup - a Zippo needs a small bit of upkeep besides filling it with fluid - which as you mentioned slowly dries out even if you never use it. Mines dries out in about 2-3 weeks. The flint is the next to need changing. I'm guessing heavy smokers have to change it quarterly.

Eventually the wick will get contaminated and need to be changed, but that could take a few years so it's not as big a worry as fluid and flints.

I love my Zippo, but in a ZPAW environment, I'd rather have a bunch of disposible lighters or storm matches.

[Trumble0]

I have disposible lighters in my shaving kit, That's probably another thing I'd want to bring, a razor. Not only because I enjoy looking upkept but because razor blades can be useful in treating certain types of injuries... bleeding out bruises/bumps around the eyes. I also have a folding boxcutter that accepts razorblades... so that would probably be what I used rather than my Gillette Fusion. But I'm not a fan of facial hair Maybe a mustache but that's about it. How about Scissors or Hairclippers to keep your hair short? I saw an "Ultimate First Aid Kit" in Cheaper-than-Dirt that came with splints, medicines, bandages, and pretty much anything you could ever need, it was kind of pricey but it might be worth having around, Came in a black nylon duffle bag.

[Jimmy]

"Ummm.... isn't thats suppose to be ''Use the bathroom downstream, wash clothes mid stream, and get your drinking water upstream."? :think:

HAHA. You would have some pretty smelly clothes and a bad taste in your mouth after that one. =p

[Bob]

To clarify things upstream means before the water gets to your camp.
Downstream means after it has passed your camp.

In the old days they used to say that a river cleaned itself every 3 miles.
That was before the EPA though now we know better.

Here is something to think about.
By the time the Mississippi reaches the sea how many millions of gallons of waste has been dumped into it? The cities along it's length get their drinking water from it and dump the sewage into it. (they did when I was a kid, don't know about now)

[Zombie Slayer]

Just like most eveyone above stated, some sort of lighter for sure. A good combat knife that contains different survival utility pieces in the handle (waterproof matches, cutting wire and what not) a compass and some sort of small, portable radio...you never know, someone might actually be alive at a radio station and can offer shelter, that and to keep informed on the zed uprising crisis. Just my :2cents:

[Tripoli]

It seems to me the most forgotten piece of survival gear is, needle, thimble, thread, safety pins, and buttons. (Also Known As, a sewing kit.) Keeping your clothing is a good state of repair is crucial to protecting the body from the elements and the undead.

[Trumble0]

It seems to me the most forgotten piece of survival gear is, needle, thimble, thread, safety pins, and buttons. (Also Known As, a sewing kit.) Keeping your clothing is a good state of repair is crucial to protecting the body from the elements and the undead.

This is true... I am only at college and I wish I had remembered to bring a needle and thread. I would go insane in a ZPAW with no sewing kit. :lol:

[Tripoli]

The other “Uncommonly Thought of Forgotten Gear” is the good old P-38 or B-52 can opener. As a basic can opener I’ve never had one fail to work. As a matter of fact I carry a P-38 24/7.

Just another bit of odd knowledge is the P-38's name came from the fact that it took 38 punctures to open a standard K-ration can. Then the B-52 (the LARGER) can opener took less punctures to open a similar can. The name givers associated the P-38 to the “Mustang” fighter and the B-52 to the EXTRA-LARGE bomber aircraft.

[bandits1]

I know someone already mentioned it, but a toothbrush and toothpaste would be critical to my sanity. I can go far longer without showering than I can not brushing my teeth.

And it would be 100x more important to try and keep your teeth/gums healthy since a lot of the dentists will be dead or undead.

[Bob]

Tooth Decay in a survival situation...
Not good, an abscess can kill you.
Then you would be a zombie with bad teeth.

What about Zombies with no teeth, if their gums shrink and the false teeth fall out how much risk are they?

[Trumble0]

Tooth Decay in a survival situation...
Not good, an abscess can kill you.
Then you would be a zombie with bad teeth.

What about Zombies with no teeth, if their gums shrink and the false teeth fall out how much risk are they?

Theres a hick town next to me, I could probably find out at the local gentleman's club :lol:... but if the gums shrink then theoretically the jaw bones would be closer to where you're getting bit... I'm sure a jaw bone could still break skin or the jagged remnants of where their teeth broke off the jaw before they got dentures.

[nilskidoo]

http://bulletproofme.com/

[superagent23]

a sharpener a comb and scissors water purrifier and filter gas in a tank 1ft by 1ft

[Gummerfan]

Starbuck's Doubleshots, Mt Dews, and smokes.
If you cross my path, I'll probably trade everything I own for these.
OTOH, after a few days without them, it may not be wise to cross my path...

[Slayer]

^ Don't forget Liquor.

[Bob]

Yea that makes sense about the jawbone.

[Tripoli]

Vitamins, (multi – Flintstone chewable) this is another key survival item that is commonly forgotten. Fourteen or twenty-one of these little health keepers will go a long way to help a person to survive and thrive in dire times. As most members know during stress the human body depletes precious vitamins stores and without those goodies in your system the body will weaken and fail to perform.

[Darkness]

"All this talk about lighters before, makes me wonder, how many of you have considered packing a small tinderbox, or 'flint and steel'?"

[mattifikation]

I have that packed, darkness. As well as a few of those "fire starter" sticks just for good measure. Hopefully nobody would forget a basic like that, but who knows right?

[Bob]

How about a battery and steel wool?
Magnifying Glass?

Dryer lint makes excellent tinder.

Here is todays survival question.
What is Squaw Wood?
What makes it special?

I have never seen a fire started with sticks but how about this for a creative way to start a fire.
http://wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/fire/cokeandchocolatebar/

[Tripoli]

I don’t think, lighters, matches, knives, and other “common” gear is what we are here to talk about.

I would like to hear other items like vitamins, sewing kit, and can openers. This is just me, but flame is not a forgotten piece of survival gear.

[Darkness]

"Everyone consideres flame source, but not everyone considers more perment forms of flame starters. So I suggested a flint and tinder." ;-)


"Yes, Vitimins are also often not thought of, as well as dental hygene, physical hygene and such things as extra eyewear." :)

[Tripoli]

This is a strong comment. I have to agree with you on this one. I could name an additional 10 or 15 forgotten pieces of gear. Although, I would like to hear more than what my imagination can come up with. (or what is in my kits)

[Lian]

Let's see...when I go camping usually I forget.

My Cigarettes.
The tap to the keg.
Lighter Fluid for the grill.
Contact Lens solution
Toothbrush.
Rolling papers or a nonbreakable pipe. :roll:

[mattifikation]

8 pages. That's a lot of pages. Did anyone mention condoms? They're good to have around. I wrote some slogans.

Z-Day Condoms, because you just never know!
Z-Day Condoms, because sometimes a headshot just isn't the same!
Z-Day Condoms, because AIDS is the easy way out!
Z-Day Condoms, because the ones that smell like fish are the CLEAN ones now!
Z-Day Condoms, because babies don't shut up when zombies are chasing you!

[Lian]

I'm pretty sure someone mentioned condoms, but end of the world...hell I got other things to worry about besides getting my balls wet. :roll:

[Gummerfan]

They ARE good for storing water or other liquids, or use as a tourniquet, or protecting gun muzzles (previously mentioned), or you could stretch one over a zombie's head and laugh at it.

[Lian]

I suppose that's true...Condom's do have more than one use. Though in the context that they were brought up in that wasn't mentioned. :lol:

[UNDEAD FRED]

I dont know if someone has brought this up, but glow sticks, If its dark you can attatch one to say your chest to ID yourself to others in your group to prevent from being accidently shot by some fool.

[Darkness]

I dont know if someone has brought this up, but glow sticks, If its dark you can attatch one to say your chest to ID yourself to others in your group to prevent from being accidently shot by some fool.

"They have been mentioned in a few of the survival gear threads. They are handy for many different reasons, yes." :)

[Lian]

Pro's and cons of glow sticks. Yes you can use them like you said, and yes they can be useful for such things as marking things, if you find yourself cave diving or something I wouldn't go too far without some. They are a cool *temperature wise you ravers* light source, that won't blind you but can give you that small amount of light you need.

However, they are single use and thus potentially hard to replace. One thing I don't like about them in a survival situation is that you can't turn them off. If someone, or something in this case is hunting for you, you either have to cover it up under clothing or something or flat out ditch it and move away from it. Also in at EOTWAWKI situation it might not be best for you to take up space with a light source where you could store and equivalent if not better light source that will last longer. A dozen 12 hour glow sticks can last for exactly 12 days if you use one a night for one person. I can put an equivalent amount of batteries in the same space and have light as needed for weeks, and maybe even months.

One thing that just came up to me recently would be photographs of family and such. For a couple reasons really, even if you have your family with you there is the potential that you'll get separated along the line somewhere, at a rescue camp or something along those lines. Names are fleeting and easy to forget but if you have a picture people will remember a face more often than a name. And along those same line's...if you lose a family member, you'll have something to remember them by really. Something materiel to keep you company during long nights hiding up a tree. And given that photo's are lightweight and can easily be squeeze inside a journal or something *Which I Recommended everyone should keep one in this situation* I got pictures of my family on my Cell but how long will my battery, and the phone really realistically survive?

[Darkness]

"Plus, in a small way, family photos can be used to help identify your dead or unconsience body, and possibly help notify said family of your condition. Especially if you add names, birthdates, etc. to the back of the photo."

[Lian]

Oh that's good I hadn't thought of that part. :drinking:

[mattifikation]

And plus, photos of your family can be used to help your imagination along on those lonely nights with Mrs. Hand.

Er wait... I didn't say that out loud did I?

[JakAttak]

photos as paper dog tags thats a pretty cool idea

[Slayer]

Shaving cream and some disposable razors, you'll feel less like an animal when you can shave your beard.

[UNDEAD FRED]

If you scavenging durning an undead epidemic, might be a good ideal to grap some packets of vegtable seeds, corn, tomatoes, ect. maybe plant some patches so there might be food if you come back thru that area again, or you want to grow veggies at your shelter. They are lightwieght, and shouldnt take up to much space.

[DarthJoe8]

good point UF :eat:

:drinking:

[bandits1]

How about poly tarps and plastic garbage bags? Keep stuff dry, collect rain water, etc...

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8507/tarp30198ky6.jpg

[VideoJunkie]

Bolt cutters and a pry bar! Most people leaving there homes are gonna lock things up as tight as they can. Having a way into those homes means decent temporary shelter. Also, since I plan to ride out the bad times in a large grocery warehouse out of town, I'm going to need a way in!


Hammer and nails. Being able to block off windows with plywood and such. Of course the hammering might attract some unwanted attention...

[Bob]

VJ

I don't think you will have to worry about the noise from hammering. The noise from the heavy equipment I will be moving from the rental place across the interstate will be much louder. Can drive a track hoe or should we start looking for a heavy equipment operator? Can Harry operate that stuff? I know Ron could but is he to old and infirm?

[Adam]

Good thread, in a retarded kind of way:)

I have set up, partly for grin's and giggles, but also because it's
a good idea to have these things together:

An old GI pistol belt and "H" harness with two mag pouches holding
six loaded AK mags. These are made exactly like the M16 mag
pouches, only longer. Two GI one-quart canteens, with covers and
canteen cups. GI first-aid pouch, with dressing. GI butt bag, with
one day's worth of food, extra socks, shaving gear, cleaning kit,
small 1st-aid kit, etc. A poncho, rolled up and secured to the butt
pouch, AND a long-bladed machete, with the sheath on the back
of the "H" harness and going down between the pistol belt and the
butt pouch....................."just in case." I've had to sew a strip
of thick leather around the throat of the sheath, as the blade was
cutting the sheath as I drew it out.

All I have to do is fill the canteens, and I'm good to go.

With this and my leather jacket and my AK..................bring on them
Zombie's!

[Lian]

Deck of Cards. Do you have any idea how boring it can get sitting in the near dark waiting for daybreak? It's nice to bring something along to pass the time with fellow survivors. Some nice plastic type durable cards comes to mind. Other things you could maybe do are dice, lots of games you can beat cigarettes on with those. If you score a cloth checkerboard you can use ammo for checker pieces in your spare time. Or Chess even if you have a diverse enough ammo set.

You get the point though, something to do. I wouldn't recommend books though because they are heavy for one, and you can only read the same book so many times before you get sick of it. Only book I plan on taking let alone reading is my homemade survival book.

[mattifikation]

Books get boring?

Dude. Four words:

Choose Your Own Adventure.

A MILLION BOOKS IN ONE, YIPPIEEEEE!

But seriously. I'd throw my mp3 player and some earbuds into the bag. Too bad my crank radio doesn't store mp3's...

[mattifikation]

Wait... wait...

http://dvice.com/archives/2008/02/handcrank_mp3_p.php

I need 275 dollars.

[Lian]

A million books in one? More like eight in the later end of the series, earlier one's had more. I still got most of the series in boxes downstairs. And even so last one of those I picked up I went through every plot choice and thus got to every ending in the same amount of time it would have taken me to read a normal book. So how many times are you going to read the same eight stories before they get old? At least with cards there are a ton of different games already existing and if you get really bored you can make up a new one. Not to mention my deck of cards still weighs less and takes up less room than most books.

The crank mp3 player pwns though. :lol: Granted I have a miniature solar panel charger in the bug out bag already so I could just bring the Ipod but that's cool too.

[mattifikation]

I was kidding about choose your own adventure. :-p

I guess they make a 4 gigabyte model of that mp3 player, too. Oh my, now I really want one.

[csmasterrave]

It even have a touchlight, now add a speaker to that thing and it will be prefect

[Lian]

Sonic Impact Soundpads. (http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/home-entertainment/6bd8/) Turn any flat surface into a speaker. :evil:

[Zombia planner]

I just mentioned this in another thread but it should be mentioned here as well.

Goggles or some form of eye/face protection. In most of the movies infection only passes via a bite.

But what if blood splatter were to get into your eyes or mouth? I imagine that the virus could be transfered that way. I wouldn't want to find out the hard way.

I think small lite weight swimmers goggles would work and anything covering the mouth area would probably work.:think:

this is from a long time ago but also this needs to be brought up that incase of friendl fire and your teammate had a disease, blood spatter could result in aids, or other types of diseases

[Zombia planner]

for me

my dirtbike helmat and goggles

gloves

leather pants under my denim (protection)

chest plate under my jacket

work boots

a few water bottles

book on wilderness survival and construction ( setting up a base in the jungle would be usefull epescally for tree houses)

toddlers aluminum baseball bat or a small crow bar (can be used as a wepon and open doors and what not, the toddlers basball bat is small enough to where im not screwed in a hallway with limited swinging room)

back pack (filled with s few spare clothes and toilet paper)

thats it for on the escape. later on id get other things

hammer, nails, saw, etc

a bow and quite a few arrows (better than a gun for reasons such as retrivable ammo)

a blank book to remember things

and mabey a few fitness things

anything else that may apply

[Darkness]

"If you want to talk about random common gear, we have a thread for that......."

http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15671


".....This thread is for those things most people forget to pack, or just don't usually think of."

[brainbuster]

Good list except for the sleep aid. Being doped up on sleep medicine doesn't seem like a good idea to me! Sleep is important, but being groggy when the zombies find you is a very bad thing! :drool:
~Water filter. When the zombies collapsed western civilization the masses forgot all about water sanitation. Use the bathroom upstream, wash clothes mid stream, and get your drinking water down stream. Good logic, right? Wrong you got it backwards if you void yourself upstream and drink and wash down stream you will be drinking and washing in dooky that flowed from up stream down stream. just do what you said only in reverse.

[brainbuster]

thats not what i meant to quote

[Necrowerx]

I haven't seen anyone mention a knife sharpener yet. Knives aren't much good if they get dull.
For those packin' heat, a simple gun cleaning kit is a good idea too. A gun that can't shoot fer shit due to fouling is of little use.
I'd also suggest a hat with a brim of some kind: in cold, most of your body heat exits out your head; in hot climates, it'll keep the sun off your head and face; and if you're caught out in the rain, it'll help keep you dry(er) and improve visibility - especially if you wear glasses.
I'm going to look into LASIK next year, by the way. Needing glasses sucks.

[ryan112ryan]

a can opener.

honestly, how basic is that one?


not only that its basic, but 5 years after you know what hits the fan, the only food left that will be good will be in cans

[EvilWeasel35]

a can opener.

honestly, how basic is that one?

Dammit! I was gonna say that! ;o)

OK, as well as a can opener...
Plenty of fire making equipment, i.e. lighters and 'strike anywhere' matches
Firestick and sealed tin of tinder
Candles
Torch, bulbs and spare batteries (for raiding or emergencies)
Oral rehydration salts
My sleeping bag (Open sided for a quick escape - You really don't want to be wriggling about like a maggot while zack is snuggling up against your neck!)
A map of the area and a compass
Sunglasses
First aid kit, pain killers and antibiotics
Water purification tablets - VERY important as water may well be contaminated by corpses!
Lanyard to keep gun attached to you incase you drop it.
Wire, string and hooks (fishing kit and snares)
Dry rations

[homelitexl]

my list
chainsaw
oil
mix gas
gas can
mix gas oil
autumn
extra rounds for autumn
44 mag
sawnoff
claymore
sledge hammer
christmas ham
canned goods
the scout
and the woman i love( repopulating may be necessary)

[Darkness]

"Please stay on topic."

"The thread 'Gear' is where you post your full survival list. This is for what folks usually DO NOT remember to bring."

[homelitexl]

sorry anyway i really forgot two things, trojans and beer.

[KrimsonKing]

I think some very important yet forgotten gear is,
A pump water purifier with extra filters
Gun cleaning kit with a rod for cleaning the inside of the barrel and gun oil, sewing machine oil works if there is no special oil available
Iodine, if you add a few drops to a canteen of filtered water it will make it safe for drinking, also for cuts and scrapes.
Bolt cutters, good for cutting padlocks, fences and can be used as a weapon
Hammock, good for sleeping up in trees and can be used as a mattress when one must sleep on the ground
Waterproof tarp, for collecting and shedding rain
Dremal tool good for cutting wood and pipes, drilling holes and driving screws ect… can be used as a weapon if used with a drill bit.
That’s just to name a few
:)

[Bob]

and the woman i love( repopulating may be necessary)


sorry anyway i really forgot two things, trojans and beer.


Ummm...
I assume by your posts you must be planning on using the "Trojans" as water balloons.

[homelitexl]

no fill them full of gas an you have a fire ball.

[Ash in Housewares]

it seems that survivors never really plan where they're going or prepare even at the last moment at any way.

warm blankets, some painkillers and a good flashlight would be great things to pick up when the z-day comes.

also I've always thought that killing zombies isn't the thing that pops up in your mind at the outbreak.

I'd personally take all the medicine I could found with me, a sleeping bag, blanket or two and something to defend yourself with.

I have radio on my cellphone, so..

[homelitexl]

i'd at least remeber autumn.

[Bob]

Would a condom hold up to gasoline?
If so they would make good expedient containers for draining a gas tank into.

[Necrowerx]

I have radio on my cellphone, so..

Really? That's pretty cool. What kind is it?


Oh, some other things - I'd take a handkerchief, just to have a snot rag or a general purpose cloth. :evil:
Kleenex would a bit tough to get a hold of and leaves suck for wiping your nose.
Also maybe some clothesline, just in case you need some rope..

[Bob]

Has anyone listed Dermabond?
It can be hard to get but Vetbond is easy.
http://www.vetamerica.com/vetbond-tissue-adhesive-3m.aspx

[DarthJoe8]

^ That site has all sorts of cool stuff. :drinking:I think having that in your pack would be very handy,,,,:think:

[Ash in Housewares]

Really? That's pretty cool. What kind is it?





Sony Ericsson W910i.

it was a real bitch to find, since I don't live in UK, where they're made.

[homelitexl]

yeah flaming gas condoms yeah good idea huh don't ask how i found out.

[EvilWeasel35]

Would a condom hold up to gasoline?
If so they would make good expedient containers for draining a gas tank into.

If there is acetone in the gasoline it will rot rubber hoses, melt plastic fittings, etc.

Toluene is similarly disrespectful to plastics and non natural rubbers. You wouldnt want to splash it on your condoms for example.

Oil-based products also rot polyurethane, so I guess the answer is yes, but not for long!

[DarthJoe8]

^ You know a lot about petro, I mean condoms, I mean gasoline.....:lol: Good info....:think:

:drinking:

[homelitexl]

yeah how you know this by the way when you fill them you got like five minutes to light and run.

[Bob]

HomeliteXL

Have you ever videoed any of your experiments?

[homelitexl]

no most are kinda ilegal.

[Bob]

I bet some of it is already up on You Tube you are just to modest to tell us.

[EvilWeasel35]

I bet some of it is already up on You Tube you are just to modest to tell us.

That is so funny. I'm going to check! :lol:

You know a lot about petro, I mean condoms, I mean gasoline..... Good info....

If I told you I'd have to kill you. :evil:

[homelitexl]

yeah how do you know this crap.

[Bob]

Bob knows all
Bob sees all
Bob is a network administrator
That is as close as one can get to being a demi-god in a corporate environment.
When they transgress against the corporation it is Bob they ask for mercy.
It is Bob who hears their entreaties for forgiveness.
Bob answers only to the Greater God "President"
Bob is a kind God he forgives all.
But should one anger Bob woe be unto him (or her) as Bob has a memory longer than his "member".
Bob will set his hound the mighty packet sniffer named Wireshark upon his enemies.
Wireshark has never been defeated in battle.
Should a smoke screen of obfuscated packets confound him Wireshark alerts Bob.
Together they seek out the guilty and bring down the wrath of the Human Resources dept upon them.
The wise send Bob offerings of porn and donuts.
Bob tells them their porn is lame and the donuts should have been fresher.
Bob is psychically linked to the "Hot Now" sign at Krispy Creme.

[DarthJoe8]

:hug: Bob needs a hug......and a beer!! :drinking:

[homelitexl]

Bob knows all
Bob sees all
Bob is a network administrator
That is as close as one can get to being a demi-god in a corporate environment.
When they transgress against the corporation it is Bob they ask for mercy.
It is Bob who hears their entreaties for forgiveness.
Bob answers only to the Greater God "President"
Bob is a kind God he forgives all.
But should one anger Bob woe be unto him (or her) as Bob has a memory longer than his "member".
Bob will set his hound the mighty packet sniffer named Wireshark upon his enemies.
Wireshark has never been defeated in battle.
Should a smoke screen of obfuscated packets confound him Wireshark alerts Bob.
Together they seek out the guilty and bring down the wrath of the Human Resources dept upon them.
The wise send Bob offerings of porn and donuts.
Bob tells them their porn is lame and the donuts should have been fresher.
Bob is psychically linked to the "Hot Now" sign at Krispy Creme.

wow you rant like me and what you won't accept free porn, i know guys that would kill for an offer like that. dude wicked i want your job when i get a good one.

[Darkness]

"This conversation is so off track, the train is about to get de-railed. Enough! Get back to the topic!" :naughty:

[Bob]

HomerliteXL

Then get off your butt and go get one!

MOTIVATION and HARD WORK!

[homelitexl]

i would but ican't pass a sobriety test.

[Bob]

I hear ya.
I am just about at the end of a bottle of Imperia I started tonight.
Dang the Rooskies know how to make white likker.
Do you mix yur booze or drink shots?
Hammer time = 2oz shots chased with a swallow of orange pineapple juice.

For social drinking Wild Turkey with a single ice cube.

OOPS forgot about being on Topic...

A Flask filled with medicinal alcohol.
Good more many more things than catching a buzz and a metal flask won't break.

[homelitexl]

its okay i just drink the wild turkey straight from the bottle.

[Ash in Housewares]

I don't remember people mentioning toilet paper too many times in this topic, think about how important it is to stay clean when the outbreak comes.

also if you'd have to be locked up in the same location for multiple days/weeks/months, you WILL need toilet paper.

[homelitexl]

just use a poison oak leaf like the rest of us simple huh.

[Ironzey]

How about warm clothes? I'd have to pack some thermal underwear at least. A few sets would be nice. It snowed here last night.

[homelitexl]

make it from animal sknins my deer skin speedo is warm even on a 25 degree day.

[Comander Shaw]

Basically just pack like your going on a really lightweight long distance camping trip. A lot of the things mentioned above are good just think ahead and imagine how a day would look like from start to finish and think of everything that would come in useful or you need then you need to make that stuff as compact/lightweight as possible

Small tarps or clear plastic sheets!! i dont know how many times these have saved my ass from waking up soaked tent rain fly's and ground covers will not keep you dry in the rain.

extra socks!
length of rope
string or paracord
Small pot for cooking
bar of soap
Razor blade needles thread
bag of rice
lighter, waterproof matches, magnesium stick
leatherman
bivouc bag

It would be a lot like boy scouts if you had a really psycho troop


I agree, just pack for a camping trip,well actually hunting trip.:shotg::guns::axe:

[Bob]

my deer skin speedo is warm even on a 25 degree day.

A fur speedo AND you play a banjo?

I am worried about you dude...

[homelitexl]

hey the speedo was a gift from someone but i dont use it anyway abut made a good example.

[Comander Shaw]

hey the speedo was a gift from someone but i dont use it anyway abut made a good example.

Still it's sad you own one.:cry:

[homelitexl]

so when the zeds rise at least my redneck iron man suit will keep me safe.

[Comander Shaw]

so when the zeds rise at least my redneck iron man suit will keep me safe.

How redneck is it?:drool:

[homelitexl]

just it is homemade and has a rebel flag on the chest plate and some license plates as part of it.

[Zompocalypse]

Rubber bands are a very useful and are an uncommonly forgotten piece of survival gear.

They can be used to fasten gear, triggers for traps, and hundreds of other uses. I carry a handful of rubber bands in my kit.

[Krazymouse]

Dental Floss.

Its like rope because it is strong. Plus keeps your teeth clean

[bootsy]

what about milk? i havent seen milk or anti snore devices mentioned here so far lol:roll:

[Ball Tripper]

IMODIUM AD!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know it's very possible that you will need it. Say shit goes south and you have to bug out with out your water filter? Your gonna get sick from drinking water out of a stream, too afraid to light a fire and boil it.

Try fighting zombies when you've got the hershey squirts :P

[bootsy]

what about meat safe (australians who have been in the country or camping will know what i mean), sharpening stones for knives, laxatives (if the back door gets shut:)) constipators (for when the back door wont shut:)). ph testing kit (for suss water),sift (for dirty water),shoe horn (self explanitory),nose plugs (for moving dead bodys),video camera(s) (for diaries and survalence) , pen and paper and white out. no one ever seems t remember these :)

[Nameless1]

Commonly forgotten gear is a survival book or book on survival, would be useful for a reference when on the run or try to make it. For water purification I use an iodine tincture, makes the water taste a bit funny but better than getting the squirts.

[joerrrrrr]

~Clothes. Have you ever noticed that in most movies clothes are wearable for the length of the movie, don't need washing, and are still as fresh as the day they were put on? After day three of running from zombies those clothes will be smelly, sweaty, and ichy. How are you supposed to fight zombies if you have to readjust your manhood between every shot?


i fight zombies in the nude.

[Redfields]

Besides all this, a condom is actually very useful (besides the use of preventing STD's and such). The SAS Pack them in their bags along with water purifying tablets. The condom is then used as a very effective 'water bottle.'

I noticed above that a person mentioned condom but, not in the context that I have put it in.

Other than that, the basic essentials listed above.

[JimiVengeance]

gun ammo canned food can opener..just the basics, no need for extra weight..**** hygiene and sunburns...i would be more worried about getting eaten ha

[kiltedninja]

Carmex, Socks, toothbrush, duct tape, candy bars, Tang(Powdered orange juice), watch, spectacle cleaning supplies(For those who wear them).

Just a few, I'll get back to you on this list.

[mattifikation]

Did anyone mention a selection of spices? Different spices can add some variety to boring, repetitive meals.

[Ball Tripper]

**** hygiene and sunburns...i would be more worried about getting eaten haWhile it's true that you don't need to carry your whole medicine cabinet in your back pack when you are running for your life, completly disregarding things like hygene and even sunblock would be a big mistake. The sunblock is obviously going to be situational, if it's summer time and you live in an area where you are going to get burned easily then try to remember it. Fighting for your life when every move hurts because of a sever sun burn is going to suck. Hygene is really important though. After the dead rise up, you are not going to be able to find a dentist anymore. Stop brushing your teeth and a tiny cavity that would take the dentist 20 minutes to almost painlessly drill and fill is going to absolutely destroy you. Have you ever seen Castaway? Tom hanks ends up with a rotten tooth and has to bash it out of his mouth with an ice skate blade for a chizel and a rock for a hammer. It's one of those scenes that just makes your skin crawl to watch. And it's the kind of thing you WILL end up being forced to do if you survive more than the initial outbreak and you disregard personal hygene.

[Bob]

Sun Block?
Wuss!
Here in the deep south the only sunblock construction workers use is the occasional cloud.

Right VJ?

I do agree about the tooth brush though.
A real tooth ache will lay you low.

[OVERKILL]

Sun Block?
Wuss!
Here in the deep south the only sunblock construction workers use is the occasional cloud.

And baseball caps.
("We don't need no stinking hard hats")

Toilet paper is on my don't forget list

[Bob]

Yup
Forgot about ball caps.

Hard hats are for when OSHA is around...

[Victor Clark]

How about video cameras? I know you can't eat or wipe your ass with it, but I think it could be a great tool in the zombocalypse. In fact, I compiled 5 ways a camera would be very useful:
1. If you're with a large group, you can record any strange happenings and show proof if that noise you heard was from a zombie.
2. It can record information, like what places are looted and what roads are blocked.
3. You can use the night vision feature to help walk through dark rooms without alerting any zombies inside.
4. If you're under quarantine, stranded with help too far away, or just caught in the midst of the outbreak, the camera can help show people in the outside world exactly what happened.
5. And if you live through the zombocalypse, and society turns back to normal, you have something to sell as a movie and make a fortune!

[Ironzey]

did anyone mention duct tape? can't forget the duct tape.

[mrlaughingman]

duct tape
sewing kit
flashlight
Collapsible Rescue Shovel
batterys
bits of cloth (for repairing clothes)

[mattifikation]

Since when can you not wipe your ass with a video camera?

Sure, it might be a bit unorthodox, and it might not work so well, but I bet it would do pretty well at scraping the clingers off.

[OVERKILL]

How about video cameras? I know you can't eat or wipe your ass with it, but I think it could be a great tool in the zombocalypse. In fact, I compiled 5 ways a camera would be very useful:
1. If you're with a large group, you can record any strange happenings and show proof if that noise you heard was from a zombie.
2. It can record information, like what places are looted and what roads are blocked.
3. You can use the night vision feature to help walk through dark rooms without alerting any zombies inside.
4. If you're under quarantine, stranded with help too far away, or just caught in the midst of the outbreak, the camera can help show people in the outside world exactly what happened.
5. And if you live through the zombocalypse, and society turns back to normal, you have something to sell as a movie and make a fortune!

A camera would be useful in training as well. Tape your battles with undead hordes and study them later to find out what tactics worked, what didn't and what skills need work.

Binoculars are often forgot, but handy for scoutiing areas and surveylance.

[kiltedninja]

did anyone mention duct tape? can't forget the duct tape.

I did on the last page.

[mattifikation]

What about duct tape?

:-p

[Bob]

Duct tape is ok but Mastic tape is what you really want that stuff is the hammer.
VJ and I sealed a split big enough for your arm in a high pressure duct with Mastic Tape.

[mattifikation]

Oh, okay.

What about duct tape?

[Darkness]

"I guess duct tape isn't so uncommonly thought of after all." :lol:

[mattifikation]

That seems to be the case.

I don't think anybody's thought of duct tape yet, though.

(Why do I suddenly feel compelled to do this?)

[Darkness]

*Darkness takes about ten rolls of Duct Tape and tapes mattifikation to the wall.* :evil:

"Feel better now, dear?" :) :lol:

[mattifikation]

Well...

...I think I would if I had some duct tape.

(Okay, that was the last time. I promise. Unless somebody makes it too easy...)

[kiltedninja]

*Darkness takes about ten rolls of Duct Tape and tapes mattifikation to the wall.* :evil:

"Feel better now, dear?" :) :lol:

It only takes about three if you do it properly.
Matt, I've been in that situation as well, only it wasn't Dark that did it, it was my friend and her older brother. It hurts to take it off of bare skin.

[bootsy]

It only takes about three if you do it properly.
Matt, I've been in that situation as well, only it wasn't Dark that did it, it was my friend and her older brother. It hurts to take it off of bare skin.

yea me and my mates did that to each other and i ended up taped to a pole in the middle of armadale completely hammered^^ lucky i was drunk when they pulled it of coz i would have passed out otherwise:)

[Darkness]

"Ok, Duct Tape Con 101 is now officially over. Time to get back to the proper Topic." :roll:

:lol:

[Redfields]

Dental Floss.

Its like rope because it is strong. Plus keeps your teeth clean

Dental Floss cannot be used as rope. U going to waste time plaiting it? Its not a good choice. I can break dental floss just by pulling both ends wrapped around fingers on each side.

Well, I would not use it to haul anything heavy such as survivors up roofs :lol: or even tie up a survivor that is unco-operative or a lunatic.

Even duct tape serves a better restraint/rope. It is tougher

[BenAli]

A “Wrist Rocket Sling Shot” this is a commonly forgotten piece of survival gear. I have used mine to harvest game up to 60 lbs (pounds). I believe I can take larger game as I practice often.

In addition to several sizes of commercial ammunition that is available, almost any “well selected” rock will work in killing up to and including “human” size targets. As far as a tool against the undead, I could make it work.

I like the “TRUMARK” brand sling with a wrist-locking design, I replace the factory band with RR-2 Heavy Pull and leather pouch, and then for ammo I go with 3/8” steel shot.

This forgotten weapon is dynamic for a survivor.

[Darkness]

"Interesting thought, thank you." :)

[Redfields]

A “Wrist Rocket Sling Shot” this is a commonly forgotten piece of survival gear. I have used mine to harvest game up to 60 lbs (pounds). I believe I can take larger game as I practice often.

In addition to several sizes of commercial ammunition that is available, almost any “well selected” rock will work in killing up to and including “human” size targets. As far as a tool against the undead, I could make it work.

I like the “TRUMARK” brand sling with a wrist-locking design, I replace the factory band with RR-2 Heavy Pull and leather pouch, and then for ammo I go with 3/8” steel shot.

This forgotten weapon is dynamic for a survivor.

True, true...

Just that every1 has to order one days berfore the outbreak (shipping/transport time etc.)

They did make a thriller movie out of this, forgot the title but its about a murderer that wants to play a 'game' with a guy and girl. He uses spiky balls as his ammunition and well... it hurts. Hit the guy in the leg, nice connection. I believe this is a good weapon but, would people bother? The 'pick up and rock and ur good to go' concept sounds bloody tempting though :evil:

[BenAli]

True, true...

Just that every1 has to order one days berfore the outbreak (shipping/transport time etc.)

They did make a thriller movie out of this, forgot the title but its about a murderer that wants to play a 'game' with a guy and girl. He uses spiky balls as his ammunition and well... it hurts. Hit the guy in the leg, nice connection. I believe this is a good weapon but, would people bother? The 'pick up and rock and ur good to go' concept sounds bloody tempting though :evil:

Actually you should purchase your sling shot…………… NOW! Then you will be able to practice before you need it and this will allow you to carry it with your BOB. Waiting until a few days before the outbreak, is not a good idea.

Sling, spare bands (2), and shot (150 count) = $20.00 A freshly harvested meal, priceless!

I should have mentioned how quiet this survival weapon is. On one trip I was able to harvest 4 quail from one covey without disturbing the non-targets.

Ammunition can also be retrieved, then use over and over again

[UseYourHeadCutOffTheirs]

Nail clippers? Did anyone already say that? I'll tell you right now, I can't handle a hang nail.........zombie apocalypse or not..

Did anyone say a flashlight? :scare:

So sorry if I'm re-posting stuff someone else already listed.

[mattifikation]

Yeah. You totally want practice with your sling shot.

It's not easy to just pick one up and use it. The first few times you'll probably let go prematurely, and you'll probably notice your aim is way off. Just take it slow, don't sweat it if you aren't so great at first, and try to have a good time. It took awhile before I could even consistently launch my shot off instead of just letting my balls drop uselessly.

Yeah, I really said all that.

[mattifikation]

Nail clippers? Did anyone already say that? I'll tell you right now, I can't handle a hang nail.........zombie apocalypse or not..

Did anyone say a flashlight? :scare:

So sorry if I'm re-posting stuff someone else already listed.

I would hope most people would remember a flashlight, but nail clippers is a good one. I'd forget...

[BenAli]

How about a candle? This is another piece of survival gear that in worth its weight is gold. The right candles can burn as long as 36 hours, heat meals, provide light, start larger fires, transport flame, and oh so much more. Candles don’t take up much room their weight is light (pun intended), and have been in use for THOUSANDS of years.

[Fr1day]

Ok some of these might have been said but I couldn't read through all 15 pages - while at work! :-(

Decent gloves (leather if possible)
Help protect your hand from the elements as well as protecting you from cuts and sores further down the line.

Thermal top and pants
Lightweight and useful when the weather drops.

Sunglasses (polarised if possible)
Allow you to look in the direction of the sun to see possible threats ahead.

Cling film
Would allow you to preserve food as well as covering possible burns/cuts that are infected.

All I can think of right now.

[kiltedninja]

Some sort of lip balm, chapped lips hurt like hell.
Extra boot laces.
More matches(Can never have too many)

A slingshot, I'd never thought of adding one of those to my kit.

[Birdman44]

Laser rangefinder: easier for judging distances in most areas.

Snakebite kit: you never know :)

[TeeK]

For one, i agree with the medkit, even a BASIC medkit could prove to be life-saving in so many ways. also a VERY good pair of shoes. when you think about it, your on the run allmost all of the time, and so you need shoes that will hold up, are waterproof, and that are comfortable.

[Bob]

Everyone should have a well broken in pair of hiking boots.
Do not forget extra socks and if you can handle the weight an extra pair of boots or running shoes could save your feet.

[TeeK]

change of clothes are very important, especially socks, and shoes. running in wet socks and shoes is a bad idea, you could get sick (could be lethal, if your sick and trying to run from zombies) also its very difficult to run in wet shoes/socks.

[ZombieGore]

A big fat sack of marijuana...:clap:

[TeeK]

Haha make the time fly :drinking:

[mattifikation]

Balls. Don't forget to bring your balls.