Can a zombie be knocked out?

[Augustus Desius]

I was thinking back on the blunt force thread, and a question came to mind. Can a zombie be knocked unconscious? At first I thought no, but I came to realize that I don't really know the science behind being knocked unconscious. I know there is a nerve involved when struck on the chin, and that concussing a brain can cause a blackout.

Now, I know zombies aren't held to many of the same physical issues and restrictions that a normal body is, but this relates mainly to damage to the brain, so I'm uncertain.

Also, because I don't know how to make voting polls, this will have to be an open discussion thread. Sorry 'bout that.

[AN OLD SHOE]

i think this is a very unique thread!

and i would have to say sadly no....you cant choke a zombie becuase they dont breath...and if you hit them they cant feel pain(nerves are dead) so that wont work basically you can knock them down or you can kill them

[Darkness]

"Where's Chewy when we need him?" :think: :lol:

[retro zombie killer]

"Where's Chewy when we need him?" :think: :lol:

I remember Chewy-We do need him. I think the Zombie's nerves are only out going signals from the brain that tells their bodies to move or try to move in some cases.:lol: Seriously I don't think they would feel pain which involves the nerve sending signals back to the brain. I think the Zombie-Ghouls nerves are like a one way street. Brain to nerve never nerve to brain. You can damage the nerve but I don't think you can knock out the Zombie and I don't suggest you trying.:think:

[vortec1]

Well hit anything hard enuff And it will stop moving.

[zombieslayr]

I suggest you give me newest post a read before reacting to what I say

Yes a zombie can be knocked out.

[vortec1]

I suggest you give me newest post a read before reacting to what I say

Yes a zombie can be knocked out.

Where is it?

[zombieslayr]

Right here
http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14755

[retro zombie killer]

Well hit anything hard enuff And it will stop moving.

True !!!!!!!!

Theory of Zombies nervous system= Alive Or Dead.

After death the human brain has energy stored up that takes a month to dissipate. I could see the nerves getting signals from the brain but not sending signals of their own. It's called nerve damage. Living people have this condition. Where do zombies get their energy from. Who knows not I. They have all that electrical energy stored up at death that I mentioned at the beginning of my post. So zombieslayr if what your saying is true then what we would have is not Zombies but crazy people. Because as you stated in you post if everything is functioning then that person is alive. Max Brooks in the Zombie Survival Guide made a perfectly explainable reasons for Zombies existing his ?Solarium? Virus. So we can have a dead zombie re-animated by a Virus or Radiation with just the brain functioning imperfectly? I say we leave this for another topic or for later and let everyone get their 2 cents in on whether a Zombie can be knocked out or not. Unless everyone wants to debate the is a Zombie possible or not topic here? Personally I don't think they feel pain. But as vortec1 said if you hit something hard enough it will stop moving. Just my 2 cents worth.

[vortec1]

True !!!!!!!!

zombislayr-

After death the human brain has energy stored up that takes a month to dissipate. I could see the nerves getting signals from the brain but not sending signals of their own. It's called nerve damage. Living people have this condition. Where do zombies get their energy from. Who knows not I. They have all that electrical energy stored up at death that I mentioned at the beginning of my post. So zombieslayr if what your saying is true then what we would have is not Zombies but crazy people. Max Brooks in the Zombie Survival Guide made a perfectly explainable reasons for Zombies existing his ?Solarium? Virus. So we can have a dead zombie re-animated by a Virus or Radiation with just the brain functioning imperfectly?

Read any of past posts and you will see that Zeds have a narrow window to bust your A##.

[Zerombie]

True !!!!!!!!

Theory of Zombies nervous system= Alive Or Dead.

After death the human brain has energy stored up that takes a month to dissipate. I could see the nerves getting signals from the brain but not sending signals of their own. It's called nerve damage. Living people have this condition. Where do zombies get their energy from. Who knows not I. They have all that electrical energy stored up at death that I mentioned at the beginning of my post. So zombieslayr if what your saying is true then what we would have is not Zombies but crazy people. Because as you stated in you post if everything is functioning then that person is alive. Max Brooks in the Zombie Survival Guide made a perfectly explainable reasons for Zombies existing his ?Solarium? Virus. So we can have a dead zombie re-animated by a Virus or Radiation with just the brain functioning imperfectly? I say we leave this for another topic or for later and let everyone get their 2 cents in on whether a Zombie can be knocked out or not. Unless everyone wants to debate the is a Zombie possible or not topic here? Personally I don't think they feel pain. But as vortec1 said if you hit something hard enough it will stop moving. Just my 2 cents worth.

Gotta agree with you. Some people try to make zombies a reality or something... I can't answer the Q bout knovking one out cause I don't know what goes on behind a normal person being knocked out cept there brain was slammed to hard in the head.

[retro zombie killer]

Gotta agree with you. Some people try to make zombies a reality or something... I can't answer the Q bout knovking one out cause I don't know what goes on behind a normal person being knocked out cept there brain was slammed to hard in the head.

Thing is you might as well kill 'em if your gonna hit 'em hard in the head. So I say No they can't be knocked out. If you can knock out a Zombie folks then more power to you.

[vortec1]

Well I'VE seen people knocked out from plain blast force.

[Darkness]

*Darkness has been knocked out, just from being too close to a lightening strike.*

[chewy]

"Where's Chewy when we need him?" :think: :lol:

Sorry. I've been spending an inordinate amount of time in Second Life. Fun place. Highly recommended.

Read this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussion). The specific quote of interest to me is "Excitatory neurotransmitters are released as the result of the traumatic injury and cause the brain to enter a state of hypermetabolism which can last for 7 to 10 days." If you follow GAR's zombie mythos, all cellular activity has stopped. There would be no neurotranmitters released because the brain is, for all intents and purposes, dead on a cellular level. I don't believe a zombie can be knocked unconscious.

[Darkness]

"Thank you, Oh Guru Chewy!" :clap:

[vortec1]

My Sister was about Knocked out from lightning strike to dads car! but she's young It was about 2 years ago. blew the back window out!

[Darkness]

"I was standing too close to an oak tree that got hit. Went deaf for a couple of weeks afterwards too."

"I wonder if a shock wave would have more effect on making a zombie 'unconscious', than a blunt blow to the head?" :think:

[vortec1]

Sorry. I've been spending an inordinate amount of time in Second Life. Fun place. Highly recommended.

Read this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concussion). The specific quote of interest to me is "Excitatory neurotransmitters are released as the result of the traumatic injury and cause the brain to enter a state of hypermetabolism which can last for 7 to 10 days." If you follow GAR's zombie mythos, all cellular activity has stopped. There would be no neurotranmitters released because the brain is, for all intents and purposes, dead on a cellular level. I don't believe a zombie can be knocked unconscious.

we all wish for the unconscious.:lol:

[vortec1]

"I was standing too close to an oak tree that got hit. Went deaf for a couple of weeks afterwards too."

"I wonder if a shock wave would have more effect on making a zombie 'unconscious', than a blunt blow to the head?" :think:

I've seen people get Knocked cold out from shock wave Like CJ DAWN propane tank

[Zombie Survivor]

Can zombies be knocked out? I think they can. If you hit them in the head with a baseball bat or a shovel. The zombie would fall and stand back up after a while. There would however, a lot of damage to the brain. So another hit in the head would be sufficient enough to destroy the zombie.

So, if you hit a zombie, make sure the head is smashed in to a red pulp.

[vortec1]

I think It would be the same as Dawn of the dead a blast to lay every body out. then that means move out fast!

[retro zombie killer]

Chewy is a Guru indeed. So if he says a Zombie can't be knocked out I'll go with that. Now I do believe they can be knocked down.

A blast like in DOD '04 would do nicely but knowing my luck I'd end up catching everything on fire so I'm not gonna rig up something like that unless I absolutely have to.

[zombieslayr]

Who actually knows why you go unconscious when you get hit in the head? You cannot argue this point at all if you don't know why you go unconscious.

A George A Romero zombie couldn't be knocked out
A zombie I described in my post could be

[retro zombie killer]

What we need is not to knock the Zombie out but a diversion. An alarm clock wold do. You get one Zombie going for something and believe me the rest if not all will follow. Zombies love to play follow the leader. Stupid puss bags that they are.

[retro zombie killer]

Who actually knows why you go unconscious when you get hit in the head? You cannot argue this point at all if you don't know why you go unconscious.

A George A Romero zombie couldn't be knocked out
A zombie I described in my post could be

True!!

But what you described in your post wasn't a Zombie which is the re-animated dead. Well not a classic Zombie at any rate. More like a 28 days later kind of Zombie - (A Rage or Raging Zombie). A Re-Animated Zombie couldn't be knocked out but could be knocked down and then dispatched.

[chewy]

Chewy is a Guru indeed.

Nah. I just have the benefit of the little bits & pieces of info you pick up during 10 years of sticking tubes in people.:) Then again, I did learn a fair bit about concussions when I had my very own stage V when I whanged my head on some ceramic tile.

Who actually knows why you go unconscious when you get hit in the head? You cannot argue this point at all if you don't know why you go unconscious.

The mechanism is pretty well understood. Read the link in my post at the end of page 1.

[retro zombie killer]

Then again, I did learn a fair bit about concussions when I had my very own stage V when I whanged my head on some ceramic tile.

Ooch. I smacked my head real good at the age of 8. They had metal grills in front of the doors at the school I slipped running in from recess and knocked my self out cold. Next thing I knew I was in the nurses office and they were going to call an ambulance. They called my folks first and instead my Mom took me to are family Doctor. I don't really remember what he said. Just that I didn't have to go back to school so I spent the day in bed with a killer headache.

[8mmUltra]

http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?p=335666#post335666

There ae many reasons why the answer is ....... NO!

[retro zombie killer]

DOD '04 had Zombies knocked down but I don't believe they were knocked out. Were they stunned? Might of been of course they are zombies and they had to move slow sometime why not when their getting up from being stunned or knocked down. I still say your average Zombie can be knocked down but not out. If you gonna knock 'em out or down you might as well dispatch 'em.

[Longrifle]

No! :evil:

[UNDEAD FRED]

"Where's Chewy when we need him?" :think: :lol:


Yeah where is Dr Chewy. AKA Dr Frankenstien of ATZ. :lol:
We need him to argue the point with the Cpt Rhodes of this site.

[zombieuprising]

I want to say they can but honestly i don't know:guns:

[fester_hicks]

I guess thats one of those lessons gonna have to be learned on the fly and the hard way!

[Dagnammit]

Zombies have a functioning nervous system, otherwise they wouldn't be able to move. It is possible that they can be "knocked out" by severe trauma that is not sever enough to kill them. Maybe not unconscious as we know it, though. In Dawn of the Dead the female underpants zombie is hit in the head with a sledgehammer but her skull doesn't fracture, she lies stunned on the ground for a while then tries to move again when the teepee comes crashing down on her. In Shaun of the Dead, which follows Romero's rules, a zombie is impaled and ceases to move for a few seconds, as if it has been "knocked out".

[fester_hicks]

I'm sorry.. all I keep thinking about is Chris Tucker in "Friday" yelling, at a downed Zed " you got knocked the f--k out..."