Conan The Barbarian (remake)

[jackskellington]

HELL F**KING YEAH!!!! I'm hyped up as hell to hear about this one!!! I remember seeing the Schwarzenegger films in the theater back in the day and LOVING them!! Granted, Conan The Destroyer wasn't anywhere near as good as the first, but it was still a worthy addition. Like alot of people, I was eagerly anticipating Conan The King which was supposedly what the third installment was gonna be titled until, for some reason, it just faded away. I can still remember Conan sitting on his throne at the end of the movie engaged in deep thought as the narrator said, "...But that is another story." Kick Ass!!! :rock:

...first look at a teaser poster for Millennium Films' new Conan movie, based on Robert E. Howard's mythical conqueror Conan the Barbarian. The company said earlier this year that the new version will be more faithful to Howard's original creation than were the Arnold Schwarzenegger films.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/jackskellington70/Random/Conan.jpg

[Propaganda13]

The big question is who's Conan? I haven't heard one suggestion that I thought was a good idea. Again it's another remake of the first movie of a franchise.

I'm happier each day I see another remake that Stallone did the last Rocky and Rambo films.

[Darkness]

"A few names come to mind. Dolph Lundgren, Christopher Lambert, Clancy Brown, Bernard Bresslaw or Marc Singer might do a good job as Conan. IMHO." :)

[Sadogoat]

For awhile, there was talk that John Milius was considering Paul Levesque (better known as WWE wrestler Triple H) as Conan. Granted, he has the physique...but I'm not sure if he has the acting chops (not that Arnold was a fantastic actor back in the original film). Either way, it doesn't look like it matters since - as I understand it - Milius is not involved in this new film. It doesn't even appear to have an IMDB entry yet either.

[Crombie]

Hmmm.. I just finished watching the original, and this is one of the few I would not mind a re-make for. Although I still like the campy feel of the original I think a more serious version of the character would be interesting to see.

[detpat]

This might be an interesting one, too bad the princess from the original is dead.

[Propaganda13]

"A few names come to mind. Dolph Lundgren, Christopher Lambert, Clancy Brown, Bernard Bresslaw or Marc Singer might do a good job as Conan. IMHO." :)


Dolph Lundgren age 50
Christopher Lambert age 50
Clancy Brown age 48
Bernard Bresslaw died in 1993
Marc Singer age 59

A remake isn't travelling through time back to the year 1982 to make it with a different actor.

Triple H - He has the physique and is good on the mike as a wrestler. His "acting" and on screen presence in Blade Trinity did not make a good impression on me.

[Propaganda13]

Realized this fit in the 26-29 year between original and remake that I set up for criteria in this thread. http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?p=336184

[Darkness]

"IMHO, it's not how old, or young, an actor/actress is, it's how well they aged over the years."

[UNDEAD FRED]

I think that Conan should be a younger dude. I loved the original, Arnold was great. I am looking foward to this one.

[Darkness]

"Yes, young-ish, but please NOT not a 'wet-behind-the ears' youth. Conan was a seasoned warrior, even at a young age. If they use a baby-faced actor it just won't feel right. He grew up in a dangerous land, and had a hard life all his years. This should be reflected in the actor chosen to play his part."

"A few more names come to mind:
Daniel Goddard
Orlando Bloom (if you still prefer a youth.)
Lee Arenberg (a bit short, but a good actor.)
Isaac C. Singleton Jr.
Robert Carlyle
Tom Hardy
Jason Momoa (A personal favorite.)"

[Dagnammit]

I still think there is room for a second direct sequel there. I remember that before Arnold got embroiled in politics there was some talk of him starring in a film called King Conan based around the latter years of the character's life, when he has become a king in his own right, as hinted at in the first movie:

So, did Conan return the wayward daughter of King Osric to her home. And having no further concern, he and his companions sought adventure in the West. Many wars and feuds did Conan fight. Honor and fear were heaped upon his name and, in time, he became a king by his own hand... And this story shall also be told.

It should also be noted that Robert E. Howard's original Conan short stories span the character's entire adult life, right into his old age by which time he is the king of Aquilonia, so having a fifty-odd year old Arnold in the role would be completely within the realms of continuity.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no other Conan. Even when I was reading the books, I was picturing Arnie.

[Darkness]

I still think there is room for a second direct sequel there. I remember that before Arnold got embroiled in politics there was some talk of him starring in a film called King Conan based around the latter years of the character's life, when he has become a king in his own right, as hinted at in the first movie:

So, did Conan return the wayward daughter of King Osric to her home. And having no further concern, he and his companions sought adventure in the West. Many wars and feuds did Conan fight. Honor and fear were heaped upon his name and, in time, he became a king by his own hand... And this story shall also be told.

It should also be noted that Robert E. Howard's original Conan short stories span the character's entire adult life, right into his old age by which time he is the king of Aquilonia, so having a fifty-odd year old Arnold in the role would be completely within the realms of continuity.

As far as I'm concerned, there is no other Conan. Even when I was reading the books, I was picturing Arnie.

"Well put, thank you. Even in the comics, when they back-tracked, they depicted him as a youth 'harshly seasoned, well before his time.' He has never been shown as being 'soft and young', so neither should any character representative. IMHO." :)

[Dagnammit]

"Well put, thank you. Even in the comics, when they back-tracked, they depicted him as a youth 'harshly seasoned, well before his time.' He has never been shown as being 'soft and young', so neither should any character representative. IMHO." :)

I wholeheartedly agree. But they can't have a younger Conan anyway because everyone knows that Conan was pushing a big wheel throughout his adolescence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E00itcE6AdE

He didn't even realize his balls had dropped until he was 21.

[Darkness]

I wholeheartedly agree. But they can't have a younger Conan anyway because everyone knows that Conan was pushing a big wheel throughout his adolescence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E00itcE6AdE

He didn't even realize his balls had dropped until he was 21.

"Yes, indeed he was. From his boyhood he bore the scars of the whip on his back, and the scars of the whip master on his heart. Even as a young child he was taught the way of life, at the firm hand of a warrior sword-smith Father. Taught the way of steel and battle. And even then, he carried the marks of harsh discipline. He was never truely 'young'."

[Dagnammit]

"Yes, indeed he was. From his boyhood he bore the scars of the whip on his back, and the scars of the whip master on his heart. Even as a young child he was taught the way of life, at the firm hand of a warrior sword-smith Father. Taught the way of steel and battle. And even then, he carried the marks of harsh discipline. He was never truely 'young'."

Yep, a troubled soul was Conan, even from the very beginning, much like Robert E. Howard himself who tragically killed himself aged just 30. This gives some of his writings a whole different slant:

Hither came Conan, the Cimmerian, black-haired, sullen-eyed, sword in hand, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, to tread the jeweled thrones of the Earth under his sandalled feet.

That to me reads a lot like Howard's own pains and insecurities superimposed on an idealised macho version of himself - bravery, chivalry, strength, virility and joviality everything he perceived himself to lack, with enough of his own sadness woven through it to give himself a reference point. Very sad when you think about it.

My point is, that pain and melancholy is part of what defines Conan, you can't have a young happy-go-lucky version without shitting on Howard and the whole franchise.

[Darkness]

"I don't know about anyone else but, personally, I think Arnold still looks pretty damn hot for just turned 60. Ya know?" ;-)
http://loonybin.badsyntax.net/ATZ/arnold1.jpg
http://loonybin.badsyntax.net/ATZ/arnold3.jpg
"Well preserved, in my opinion." :)

[Pain]

Reading earlier posts I actually think Triple H would do a pretty good job of it.

[vortec1]

Reading earlier posts I actually think Triple H would do a pretty good job of it.

Sounds good to me too.:)

[Pain]

Exactly. The role of Conan isn't one that requires a lot of acting prowess, if that was the case Arnie wouldn't have got the role in the first place. His best role: The Terminator...minimal dialogue required.

Look at that bottom picture; Arnie looks like he has lost a lot a body mass. Plus I don't want to pay money to see a politician in a movie.

[Cybopath]

wow is it the 80s again? Transformers, TMNT, Rocky, Rambo, Die Hard, Indiana Jones and now a new Conan!

lol.

I guess it's a shame about Conan, I love the original movie in fact I'd say it's my favourite fantasy film, although I'm not a huge fan of that Genre. I view it more of a Epic Adventure. Thing was there where supposed to be 6 movies all staring Arnold he got out that contract by doing Raw Deal. guess it was a pretty good move by him or we'd be going Arnold who? oh that guy who did the 6 Conan movies. But I'd have liked to have seen at least 3 films with bigger budget moving into Harryhausen style effects for the creatures n such.

A new series of movies won't hurt, It's not really a Re-make is it? It's more like another adaption. When they do another Tarzan film or sherlock holmes they don't call them re-makes.

Also I still would love to see Arnold return to do King Conan, It is a time where we are loving to see aging warriors, Rocky, Rambo, McClane. This could be Arnold's Unforgiven and a great High Note to leave on. Personally I never thought Arnold was half as bad an actor as people make out, wooden? that's Hugh Grant your talking about.

And the story is almost biographical of his own lol.

[Sadogoat]

My point is, that pain and melancholy is part of what defines Conan, you can't have a young happy-go-lucky version without shitting on Howard and the whole franchise.

I seem to recall they already did that with some kiddies' Conan TV show ages ago, in which he was an all-around environmentally-friendly good guy with a perm. It was just.....horrible.

[retro zombie killer]

Sadogoat

:lol: I remember that show I used to watch it with my nephew. It was a million miles from Conan The Barbarian as could be. Adult Swim had a Barbarian like cartoon but I can't remember the name. It was funny as hell but it didn't get picked up.:-(

[UNDEAD FRED]

I seem to recall they already did that with some kiddies' Conan TV show ages ago, in which he was an all-around environmentally-friendly good guy with a perm. It was just.....horrible.

Conan should be as un PC as they get. Triple H sounds good to me.

[jackskellington]

Not much, but a little bit more info...

Lionsgate Boards New Conan Film
Source: Variety January 11, 2008


Nu Image/Millennium Films has made a North American distribution rights deal with Lionsgate for a new film series based on the Robert E. Howard-created character Conan the Barbarian.

The first film will be written by the team of Thomas Dean Donnelly and Joshua Oppenheimer (Sahara, Cowboys & Aliens).

The film will be produced by Lerner, Boaz Davidson, Joe Gatta, Paradox Entertainment's Fredrick Malmberg, George Furla and Henry Winterstern. Trevor Short and Dimbort are executive producers.

The movie is earmarked to begin production later this year, but the start date will depend on the resolution of the writers strike. Nu Image/Millennium chief Avi Lerner confirmed that he is in discussions to make a WGA deal akin to those brokered with United Artists and the The Weinstein Company Such a pact would speed up the process.