Found: the perfect survival vehicle

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

Thought I'd post this awesomely modified bike as the perfect zombie outbreak survival vehicle. It gets 200 mpg, goes 25 mph (faster than any shambler can walk/run), and can be picked up with one finger, thrown over a fence or other obstacle, and ridden away to safety. How cool is that!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uruaRsCHvk4

[Slashmatrix]

I think I'd take my chances in this:

http://www.methodshop.net/gadgets/reviews/donk/index.shtml
http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2005-NAO-Design-JL421-Badonkadonk.htm

Gotta love a Badonkadonk

[Zombie Survivor]

I think I'd take my chances in this:

Wow, Dead Reckoning-like :drool:

The motorized bicycle is cool too, but you'll be grabbed by zombies more easily...

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

The motorized bicycle is cool too, but you'll be grabbed by zombies more easily...

Nah, you got it all wrong. We're not talking about wading through a sea of undead in an Abrams tank. The beauty of the bike is that you can get far away from a zombie-outbreak area quickly, easily, and without having to stop. You don't have to rely on roads that are going to get choked by panicked soccer moms. When everyone else is trapped in their SUVs, out of gas or stuck in traffic, you can buzz along over fences, cars, and other barriers that would stop the zombies and most other vehicles. Throw the bike in a dingy and cross a river, no bridge necessary. Bring along a 2-gallon gas can and get a 400-mile range! You have the mobility of traveling on foot, with much greater speed, and no fatigue to set in.

[Zombie Survivor]

^
Yeah, you're right. I haven't even thought about that. Thanks! :)

[8mmUltra]

BAD IDEA!

The problem with this guy’s Motorized Bicycle is; It CAN’T be Peddled! Run out of fuel, have a breakdown or anything else, you own a boat anchor (aka DRT Dead Right There). His little bike would be a bad choice and what the hell, can’t you peddle 20 MPH a lot quieter and what kind of supplies can you take with you? :loon:

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

BAD IDEA!

The problem with this guy’s Motorized Bicycle is; It CAN’T be Peddled! Run out of fuel, have a breakdown or anything else, you own a boat anchor (aka DRT Dead Right There). His little bike would be a bad choice and what the hell, can’t you peddle 20 MPH a lot quieter and what kind of supplies can ou take with you? :loon:

Pfft, oh gee Bodysnatcher's disagreeing with a post of mine. Whodathunkit:roll:

[Slashmatrix]

While we're on crazy ideas :loon:, what about an Atlasphere (http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3271/atlaspherebq4.jpg)?

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3271/atlaspherebq4.jpg

[8mmUltra]

Pfft, oh gee Bodysnatcher's disagreeing with a post of mine. Whodathunkit:roll:

WAS I WRONG? ? ? No! I did even notice it was your POST/Thread until your reply... Show me the peddles!

[Slashmatrix]

I also found this (http://www.grump.org/2007/08/ultimate-zombie-assault-vehicle.html), but I think it would be a waste of ammo if headshots were needed. I think the body should probably be reinforced as well...

http://www.grump.org/2007/08/ultimate-zombie-assault-vehicle.html

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

While we're on crazy ideas :loon:, what about an Atlasphere (http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3271/atlaspherebq4.jpg)?

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3271/atlaspherebq4.jpg

Hmm, good crush resistance and can't be overturned, but way too prone to fatiguing the "driver". Too heavy to be picked up and moved over obstacles, too. :lol:

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

I also found this (http://www.grump.org/2007/08/ultimate-zombie-assault-vehicle.html), but I think it would be a waste of ammo if headshots were needed. I think the body should probably be reinforced as well...

http://www.grump.org/2007/08/ultimate-zombie-assault-vehicle.html

When it gets stuck in traffic or runs out of gas the minigun would definitely keep the zeds off you...for a while anyway.

[zombieslayr]

Umm no, I dont think so. Anythign that requires fuel is a no on my list. When the shit hits the fan all gas stations will most likely be pump dry and I am not taking my chances syphoning cars.

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

Umm no, I dont think so. Anythign that requires fuel is a no on my list. When the shit hits the fan all gas stations will most likely be pump dry and I am not taking my chances syphoning cars.

Horseback, then? Or a regular bicycle?

[8mmUltra]

I’ll stay with my, http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/ATV/2006Models/Sportsman/SportsmanMV7/Features.htm , Along with the two fuel tanks on the Quad, I had a rack built to carry an additional twenty gallons of gasoline…. There is no need to tell you about the 400 pounds plus of supplies I can carry over your peddleless bike. :loon: Moron! Is my survival vehicle "perfect"? No!... It is, however, better than a peddleless bike.

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

:loon: Moron!

Wow, real adult move with the name-calling.:roll: Watch you don't get yourself banned...again.

[8mmUltra]

Wow, real adult move with the name-calling.:roll: Watch you don't get yourself banned...again.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Moron 1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment. Words do have meanings. I pointed out the fact that your "perfect survival vehicle" "CAN’T be Peddled!" In addition the bike is noisy, requires a mixed fuel, has no clutch so you have to turn off the motor to stop, and a person can only carry minimal supplies. Not so Perfect... I never said my alternative was perfect, I just said it was better than your version of "PERFECT". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laqYyGOUf60 If you still want to go with a motorized bicycle (MOPED) look at this setup or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8l3VuLLyM0&mode=related&search= .

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Moron 1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment. Words do have meanings, Know them! I pointed out the fact that your "perfect survival vehicle" "CAN’T be Peddled!" Not so Perfect... I never said my alternative was perfect, I just said it was better than your version of "PERFECT".

I don't think the mods will see it that way. Why don't you just go away and leave my little thread alone? I'm not going to debate my choice with you, as past arguments have proven you to be unbearably bull-headed and childish. And I doubt anyone wants spats from the now-defunct USD forum spilling over into here.

Moving on...200-mpg people! C'mon. The can of gas for your lawnmower will get you way outside city limits to your well-stocked cabin in the woods.

[Slashmatrix]

My problem with any type of motorcycle is the safety factor. I understand that they can weave in and out of the gridlock that will no doubt litter the streets after the Z-Apocalypse. But my thing is that most people are not accomplished motorcycle riders (including more than a few riders who think that they are). One zig when you should zag, one piece of unaccounted for debris in your path and you could very well take an incapacitating spill. Limping back to your bike with a group of undead cannibals swarming you doesn't sound like a very good time. And a bicycle with a motor added isn't designed to handle impacts. You may stumble back to your bike only to find that the bike fared worse than you.

A car may lack the mobility of a motorcycle, but to an unskilled user the motorcycle (and all of its fun cousins) may be a death sentence. Also, motorcycles are naturally loud (helps them get noticed and avoid accidents) so they are more likely to attract unwanted attention.

In the end, as with anything, it really depends on the situation:

Can you drive this vehicle under stress?
Is Zack slow or fast?
What are the conditions of the road?
Can you off-road if you need to?
What are the odds of being surrounded?
Are you in the city, suburbs, or out in the country?
Are you alone?
What kind of gas-milage do you need to reach your objective?
Is this vehicle for escape, recon, supply runs, rescue, and/or what?
Is Zack attracted to noise? If so, how much noise does this vehicle make?


I'm not totally 86'ing your motorized bike idea, I would just be wary of using it as your ultimate survival vehicle. However, what if the bike (since it's so light) were strapped to the top, or somehow attached to another, more sturdy vehicle? That way, it's there when you need it :)

Maybe the best way to avoid Zack:
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1830/airshipam7.jpg http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7033/airship2xu7.jpg

[nirvroxx]

Thought I'd post this awesomely modified bike as the perfect zombie outbreak survival vehicle. It gets 200 mpg, goes 25 mph (faster than any shambler can walk/run), and can be picked up with one finger, thrown over a fence or other obstacle, and ridden away to safety. How cool is that!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uruaRsCHvk4

its ok....i like that its light, but its WAY too noisy and 8mm is right. there arent any pedals! what are you to do when you run out of gas or the engine blows, BTW its a weedwacker engine, which isnt meant to be used over long periods of time, so going 250 miles isn really feasable.

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

its ok....i like that its light, but its WAY too noisy and 8mm is right. there arent any pedals! what are you to do when you run out of gas or the engine blows, BTW its a weedwacker engine, which isnt meant to be used over long periods of time, so going 250 miles isn really feasable.

The same question can be asked of any motorized vehicle that breaks down or runs out of gas. AFAIK cars don't have pedals either.:lol: I get what you're saying about the powerplant. I mean it IS a weedwacker motor.:doh: Something larger would be better, but as ultra-portability is paramount a few pounds heavier would be okay, but not too heavy to lift.

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

My problem with any type of motorcycle is the safety factor. I understand that they can weave in and out of the gridlock that will no doubt litter the streets after the Z-Apocalypse. But my thing is that most people are not accomplished motorcycle riders (including more than a few riders who think that they are). One zig when you should zag, one piece of unaccounted for debris in your path and you could very well take an incapacitating spill. Limping back to your bike with a group of undead cannibals swarming you doesn't sound like a very good time. And a bicycle with a motor added isn't designed to handle impacts. You may stumble back to your bike only to find that the bike fared worse than you.

A car may lack the mobility of a motorcycle, but to an unskilled user the motorcycle (and all of its fun cousins) may be a death sentence. Also, motorcycles are naturally loud (helps them get noticed and avoid accidents) so they are more likely to attract unwanted attention.

In the end, as with anything, it really depends on the situation:

Can you drive this vehicle under stress?
Is Zack slow or fast?
What are the conditions of the road?
Can you off-road if you need to?
What are the odds of being surrounded?
Are you in the city, suburbs, or out in the country?
Are you alone?
What kind of gas-milage do you need to reach your objective?
Is this vehicle for escape, recon, supply runs, rescue, and/or what?
Is Zack attracted to noise? If so, how much noise does this vehicle make?


I'm not totally 86'ing your motorized bike idea, I would just be wary of using it as your ultimate survival vehicle. However, what if the bike (since it's so light) were strapped to the top, or somehow attached to another, more sturdy vehicle? That way, it's there when you need it :)

Maybe the best way to avoid Zack:
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1830/airshipam7.jpg http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7033/airship2xu7.jpg

Good points. You would have to be able to ride a bicycle, for sure. If you can't ride it, it's pointless. But it's no different than a car driver not knowing how to drive stick and trying to operate a rig. The same issue applies.
The conditions you mention are where I think the little bike excels. Its top speed is faster than even a fast zed. It doesn't need a road to travel on. With the ability to be hoisted over ones shoulder, tossed over a fence, or dragged up a ladder, the chances of being surrounded are slight. Ideally it's a get-the-hell-out-of-the-city vehicle--a bicycle that won't get you tired. I'd thought about it's use as a "lifeboat" strapped to another vehicle. It's a great idea. If it could be made collapsible (which should be very easy), I'd keep one in the trunk of my car right now.

I had mentioned a couple times before the value of the blimp: impossible for a zombie to reach; requires no fuel keep airborne; can be anchored to a rooftop, etc. Unfortunately they're alot harder to come by than an old weedwacker and a bicycle.

BTW, what kind of blimps are those?

[zombieslayr]

Good ole mountain bike for me. Ruggad, easy to maintain. Gets through most terrain and doesn't require gas.

[Corpse Grinder]

I had mentioned a couple times before the value of the blimp: impossible for a zombie to reach; requires no fuel keep airborne; can be anchored to a rooftop, etc. Unfortunately they're alot harder to come by than an old weedwacker and a bicycle.

You can make your own balloon, courtesy of Los Angeles legend Larry Walters:

http://tlc.ousd.k12.ca.us/~acody/larry.html

http://ar.geocities.com/oliden_team/images/larry_walters.jpg

[8mmUltra]

History Repeats itself.

SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty
Realistically, vehicles post-outbreak are going to have an expiration date on them, because of the gasoline going bad. A year after an outbreak we'll all be riding horses. So you'd really just want something that will get you to a safe area fast. The best vehicle is the one that will get you out of a populated area effectively and quickly. Having to stop for gas, search for alternate escape routes because of blocked roadways, or get unstuck because you went offroad to try to get around an obstacle are all going to waste precious evacuation time. That's why I gotta say it again: motorcycle. Best offroad ability (yes even a hummer can get stuck, and when it does are you going to try pushing that behemoth out??), best mileage, best maneuverability.

Tasteless,
For the FIRST time I am not going to tell you are wrong. The motorcycle sounds okay but doesn’t that limit the amount of supplies you can carry? What about an ATV? I have a Polaris MV-7. Good to GR8 maneuverability, can carry four hundred pounds of gear, in a pinch two riders, and a small trailer if needed. I could go on but you get my point.

[Corpse Grinder]

How about a jet pack? It needs a little more work, but...:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6943201001782160188

[8mmUltra]

How about a jet pack? It needs a little more work, but...:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6943201001782160188

O'no, keep it the way it is.... You FIRST! ! !

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

Good ole mountain bike for me. Ruggad, easy to maintain. Gets through most terrain and doesn't require gas.

A mountain bike is a really good idea, and what most survivors would be relegated to using shortly after an apocalyptic outbreak as gas supplies dry up/go bad. The weedwacker bike is just a bike that won't get you tired riding. The problem with anything human-powered is that eventually the rider will get fatigued, slow down, and have to stop for a break. That leaves them vulnerable. Zombies never get tired, never need to stop. The weedwacker bike would hopefully get you far enough away from zed-occupied areas quickly enough so you can make it to an uninhabited area, and to safety.

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

You can make your own balloon, courtesy of Los Angeles legend Larry Walters:

http://tlc.ousd.k12.ca.us/~acody/larry.html

http://ar.geocities.com/oliden_team/images/larry_walters.jpg

Not bad either, if you could make it neutrally buoyant and add a propulsion system--leaf blowers maybe?

[zombieslayr]

I just need that mountain bike to take me about 2 miles to the near by woods. Once Im in the woods, Im at home!

Woods are impossible for zombies to navigate because of all the limbs and such so the woods would be one of the safest places

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

How about a jet pack? It needs a little more work, but...:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6943201001782160188

Mythbusters tested that and busted it. They couldn't get it to work.

[Corpse Grinder]

Hey, you should throw a pair of these in your backpack, car, hovercraft in case you need to hoof it:

http://www.kangoojumps.com/pags.php?d=O4O4

Amaze your survival friends, stump those hungry zombies, be the envy of every jumping critters!

http://www.stanford.edu/~mikhuang/designology/archives/picture31.jpg

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

Hey, you should throw a pair of these in your backpack, car, hovercraft in case you need to hoof it:

http://www.kangoojumps.com/pags.php?d=O4O4

Amaze your survival friends, stump those hungry zombies, be the envy of every jumping critters!

http://www.stanford.edu/~mikhuang/designology/archives/picture31.jpg

To tell you the truth I've never thought about being the envy of every jumping critter. I know, I know, what have I been thinking!:doh::lol:

[antiflagpunk13]

i dont know how good that would be in agroup of shamblers i mean ur on a bike id stick with aa truck of massive abilities or a tank (like thats going to happen) but id rather hav that then a bike

[Corpse Grinder]

i dont know how good that would be in agroup of shamblers i mean ur on a bike id stick with aa truck of massive abilities or a tank (like thats going to happen) but id rather hav that then a bike

As long as the zombies are slow shamblers, why not head to your local construction site and drive off in one of these? Steamrollers should be easier to find than a tank and a lot more fun runnin' over your run-of-the-mill ghouls!:

http://www.riehlworldview.com/photos/uncategorized/steamroller.jpg

[8mmUltra]

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2006/02/the_future_of_air_travel.html

I think everone is thinking too small.....

[Faran Brigo]

I think it's kind of a logical impossibility: there is no perfect survival vehicle. Take an SUV and you get a lot of cargo capacity and protection but well, it's still an unwieldy gas guzzler. Take a bike and you have no gas worries but it will drain your stamina, it has virtually no cargo space, it's slower, and it offers no protection.

Personally I don't see why you couldn't get one of those small fuel efficient pickups and load a bike on it. That's what I would do. The bike would keep me mobile when the gas runs out (or in gridlocks) and I could use the truck to ferry supplies in raids and such. Plus it's easier to fix a small pickup than say, a hummer.

Also, bikes have one big advantage that I don't see mentioned often: They're silent. A motorcycle or even a small car would bring about more ghouls than a mountain bike strolling down the road.

[zombieslayr]

Yes some one once told me (and you know who you are). Its very hard to call anything perfect

[8mmUltra]

Yes some one once told me (and you know who you are). Its very hard to call anything perfect

zombieslyr, whoever told you this is a very wise man.

[Corpse Grinder]

They may be big (okay, they're massive), they may be noisey (but if your around a bend...) but if you can get a hold of one of these tunnel drilling machines, you can easily slip past the hungry horde!

Way too big you say? Why, you can drive an entire caravan underneath the gluttonous ghouls feet!

Heck, have the undernourished undead follow you down the tunnel and bury them unalive!

Oh, the possibilities are endless!

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2001/08/12/machine.jpg

http://www.kantei.go.jp/jp/koizumiphoto/2003/08/images/27kamioka4.jpg

[Faran Brigo]

CG: .............Okay, I hope for your own sake that you're still kidding.

I said it once and I'll say it again, WE NEED US&D!!!

[Raimi Rules!]

http://www.carpages.co.uk/toyota/toyota_images/toyota_hilux_27_05_04.jpg

Toyota Hilux! Indestructible! here's the one from top gear, they demolished a building whilst this was on the top and it still started!
They're really popular around Britain, reliability wise these things are amazing. A perfect base for some modifications for an outbreak.

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

I think it's kind of a logical impossibility: there is no perfect survival vehicle. Take an SUV and you get a lot of cargo capacity and protection but well, it's still an unwieldy gas guzzler. Take a bike and you have no gas worries but it will drain your stamina, it has virtually no cargo space, it's slower, and it offers no protection.

Personally I don't see why you couldn't get one of those small fuel efficient pickups and load a bike on it. That's what I would do. The bike would keep me mobile when the gas runs out (or in gridlocks) and I could use the truck to ferry supplies in raids and such. Plus it's easier to fix a small pickup than say, a hummer.

Also, bikes have one big advantage that I don't see mentioned often: They're silent. A motorcycle or even a small car would bring about more ghouls than a mountain bike strolling down the road.

Logically impossible? Yes, just as much as a zombie outbreak is logically impossible. However, given that we are talking about the logically impossible anyway, I will use "perfect" to describe what in my vision of surviving the first hours of a zombie outbreak (getting the $@#%& out of dodge as easily and quickly as possible) is the perfect vehicle. You're right, of course. Every option has its drawbacks.

Yes some one once told me (and you know who you are). Its very hard to call anything perfect

See above response.

They may be big (okay, they're massive), they may be noisey (but if your around a bend...) but if you can get a hold of one of these tunnel drilling machines, you can easily slip past the hungry horde!

Way too big you say? Why, you can drive an entire caravan underneath the gluttonous ghouls feet!

Heck, have the undernourished undead follow you down the tunnel and bury them unalive!

Oh, the possibilities are endless!



Don't those move at like a foot an hour? And aren't they open at the back? What's to keep a horde of zombies from just walking up into the digger from the rear?

http://www.carpages.co.uk/toyota/toyota_images/toyota_hilux_27_05_04.jpg

Toyota Hilux! Indestructible! here's the one from top gear, they demolished a building whilst this was on the top and it still started!
They're really popular around Britain, reliability wise these things are amazing. A perfect base for some modifications for an outbreak.

Saw that episode. Pretty impressive, but they don't show exactly what was done after each beating to get the truck going again. Those guys at Top Gear tend to be a bit too theatrical and lack objectivity. For example they reviewed the new Ford GT and lamented that it had a truck engine. Then they reviewed the Ford Lightning and exclaimed excitedly that it had a Ford GT powerplant:loon:.

[Corpse Grinder]

Don't those move at like a foot an hour? And aren't they open at the back? What's to keep a horde of zombies from just walking up into the digger from the rear?

Make sure you're being chased by reeeaaall slow zombies and if they get too close, drop a box of marbles or throw banana peels at 'em and you'll get this:

http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/DSN/DSN114/1769194.jpg

http://www.pilawsuit.com/Images/Man%20Slipping.jpg

:lol: :lol:

[The4thsurvivor]

Id just go for the bike while wearing my old boy scout hiking back pack. i can carry a stove, rations, water, and a bad ass sleeping bag along with all the clothes to keep me clean.

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

What about modifying something like this:
http://www.hondaoffroad.co.uk/images/Bikes/CRF450X.jpg
to run off something like this:
http://www.gertens.com/shop/images/310326
Propane has a much longer shelf life than gas, so it can be stockpiled unlike gasoline. You could keep a bottle gas powered vehicle running alot longer than a gasoline one after an outbreak shuts down the refineries. It's also got the convenience of being a dual-use fuel: transportation and cooking/heating.

[Corpse Grinder]

Every suvivalist who has a well fortified compound needs a FLYING LAWNMOWER. During those non-attacking days you can trim the lawn to give it that nice, even look; and the smell of a fresh, cut lawn... Mm-mmm!

And when you're under attack, just rip that cord, hang on tight and fly over the zombies heads and mow 'em down!

http://www.michaelmcfadyenscuba.info/images/flying-lawnmower-patch.jpg

And if you need a quick get away, just fly over a couple of hundred of yards to safey and- HEY! What happened to Bob?

http://www.techrewind.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/32890_L.jpg

OH NO!!!

http://snarkmarket.com/blog/snarkives/20070429_falling.jpg

http://www.institutdrahomira.com/peoplecollector/lyingdown2/1.jpg

Uhh... Okay... Forget the Flying Lawnmower! Let's move on to something else...

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

But how well does a zombie mulch?

[8mmUltra]

What about modifying something like this:
http://www.hondaoffroad.co.uk/images/Bikes/CRF450X.jpg
to run off something like this:
http://www.gertens.com/shop/images/310326
Propane has a much longer shelf life than gas, so it can be stockpiled unlike gasoline. You could keep a bottle gas powered vehicle running alot longer than a gasoline one after an outbreak shuts down the refineries. It's also got the convenience of being a dual-use fuel: transportation and cooking/heating.

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html

Tasteless, I’ve said this before, the motorcycle is not a bad idea…. I think a “Diesel Motorbike” might be better.

Unveiled in May 2001, the M1030M1 is claimed to be the world's first diesel-powered motorcycle designed specifically for military use. It is derived from a stock Kawasaki KLR650, and has been developed jointly by Californian firm Hayes Diversified Technologies and Britain's Royal Military College of Science. It is intended for the British and US military and for NATO. The 580cc diesel engine boasts a 50% improvement in fuel consumption over petrol-engined equivalents, lower emissions, and better cross-country utility. It gets 120 miles per gallon, the engine develops 33ft/lb of torque and the bike has a top speed of 85 mph.
Description, more pictures (Acrobat file, 164Kb):
http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/MDIESHDT3.pdf
Specifications (Acrobat file, 26Kb):
http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/M1030M1%20spec-3.pdf
The M1030M1 diesel-powered motorcycle put through its paces at a recent demonstration in Chertsey organised by the UK Defence Procurement Agency -- view the video (RealPlayer):
http://www.janes.com:8080/ramgen/janescom/diesel_mc.smi
F1 Engineering: "M1030M1 Diesel Combat Motorcycle -- This is no wimpy bike with a converted diesel generator for an engine. This is a high performance enduro bike that will run over 100 mph, revs over 7000 rpm and will climb the proverbial 'brick wall'."

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

Nope, once again you're wrong!

shelf life:
diesel: 18-24 months
propane: indefinite

multi-use ability:
diesel: no
propane: yes. vehicles, food cooking, shelter heating, etc.

[8mmUltra]

Nope, once again you're wrong!

shelf life:
diesel: 18-24 months
propane: indefinite

multi-use ability:
diesel: no
propane: yes. vehicles, food cooking, shelter heating, etc.

Tasteless, I thought you would be smart enough to know that BIO-Diesel will be available long after the infrastructure of propane processing plant and other sources have failed. In this case you are right I am wrong, you aren’t!

[8mmUltra]

However, if you do insist on a propane motorcycle….

http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=761156&sourceType=3

You might want to try this….

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

Tasteless, I thought you would be smart enough to know that BIO-Diesel will be available long after the infrastructure of propane processing plant and other sources have failed. In this case you are right I am wrong, you aren’t!

I thought you were adult enough to refrain from name-calling after being banned so many times.

[Corpse Grinder]

But how well does a zombie mulch?

Oh, about yay-high:

http://www.dukecityfix.com/magick.php/media/3/20051016-mulch.jpg

But seriously, I found this on propane:

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/mags/qf/c/PopularMechanics/12-1955/lrg_lpg_scooter.jpg

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

Oh, about yay-high:

http://www.dukecityfix.com/magick.php/media/3/20051016-mulch.jpg

LOL!!:lol:

[8mmUltra]

I thought you were adult enough to refrain from name-calling after being banned so many times.

AGAIN you are WRONG... Tasteless... 8mmUltra has NEVER been Banned! :lol:

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

AGAIN you are WRONG... Tasteless... 8mmUltra has NEVER been Banned! :lol:

Do you need a history lesson, bodysnatcher?

[8mmUltra]

Do you need a history lesson, bodysnatcher?Sure Tasteless.... Give me the HISTORY of 8mmUltra. I am so happy you are a FAN of mine and pay such close attention to my life!

[Corpse Grinder]

Okay, you two... Here's another one from my serious side:

Electricity will be a problem after an outbreak, but what about solar power?
Here's an article on Power-Assisted Bicycles:

http://www.peltzer.net/ebike/PA_FAQ.htm

http://www.peltzer.net/ebike/ebike01.jpg

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

Okay, you two... Here's another one from my serious side:

Electricity will be a problem after an outbreak, but what about solar power?
Here's an article on Power-Assisted Bicycles:

http://www.peltzer.net/ebike/PA_FAQ.htm

http://www.peltzer.net/ebike/ebike01.jpg

Nice. Pretty simple setup; quiet. I'd be worried about having too short a range, though.

[8mmUltra]

C. Grinder, I like the electric bike, I have seen something like this before and it was advertised with a solar panel to charge the batteries. I also like the idea you can peddle the bike if your power runs out. Problem, I asked this before, what kind of supplies can you carry with this rig?

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

Sure Tasteless.... Give me the HISTORY of 8mmUltra. I am so happy you are a FAN of mine and pay such close attention to my life!

You are bodysnatcher. Using a different name doesn't make you any less annoying, confrontational, or bull-headed. I am not your fan, but like so many others you've insulted and annoyed here, I do not forget your past transgressions. Now go away. You're mucking up my thread.

[Sambob]

I've seen diesel cars run on cooking oil, without them even being modified. So the diesel might not have multiple uses but the engine instantly has multiple fuel sources. Also means if you can get a safe place with a decent plot of land you can grow your own fuel in the form of rapeseed oil.

[8mmUltra]

You are bodysnatcher. Using a different name doesn't make you any less annoying, confrontational, or bull-headed. I am not your fan, but like so many others you've insulted and annoyed here, I do not forget your past transgressions. Now go away. You're mucking up my thread.

I am so happy you are a FAN of mine and pay such close attention to my life! You are the one that can not stay on thread...

[8mmUltra]

I've seen diesel cars run on cooking oil, without them even being modified. So the diesel might not have multiple uses but the engine instantly has multiple fuel sources. Also means if you can get a safe place with a decent plot of land you can grow your own fuel in the form of rapeseed oil.

These were my thoughts too.... Couldn’t this also be used to power a generator?

[Corpse Grinder]

C. Grinder, I like the electric bike, I have seen something like this before and it was advertised with a solar panel to charge the batteries. I also like the idea you can peddle the bike if your power runs out. Problem, I asked this before, what kind of supplies can you carry with this rig?

I see this as an emergency bike. Carry it on top of a car or SUV or in a pickup bed. You can attach a basket on the front and a rack on the back and the sides (see below).

And with a good backpack, you should be okay, depending on what supplies you take.

http://justyna.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/05/18/dscf1551_2.jpg

[8mmUltra]

This would be great…. With the solar panel to charge the batteries this could also be used to scavenge supplies, recon, or etc. I haven’t researched but how long will the batteries last with the charge and recharging going on? Plus you can peddle and is QUIET!

[zombieslayr]

I do like that electric bike as well. Especially with the cargo baskets. Its a nice quite little vehicle.

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

I've seen diesel cars run on cooking oil, without them even being modified. So the diesel might not have multiple uses but the engine instantly has multiple fuel sources. Also means if you can get a safe place with a decent plot of land you can grow your own fuel in the form of rapeseed oil.

I had thought about that option, but I think the time, effort, resources, and space needed to grow the fuel would be far too overwhelming in the height of an outbreak. Maybe once the undead hordes have been culled it would be possible, but then again any viable farming land would be better used to grow food. Here's an interesting alternative:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_Gas_Generator

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

I am so happy you are a FAN of mine and pay such close attention to my life! You are the one that can not stay on thread...

No matter how many times you repeat yourself, doesn't make it true.:loon:

[Corpse Grinder]

This would be great…. With the solar panel to charge the batteries this could also be used to scavenge supplies, recon, or etc. I haven’t researched but how long will the batteries last with the charge and recharging going on? Plus you can peddle and is QUIET!

From the site:

"Electric assists seem to be more suited to short around town commuting and errands rather than long tours, as their range is seldom more than 15 to 20 miles. They use a few pennies of electricity per charge, they never have trouble starting, they are simple and reliable, and they don't emit anything. But the best part is the silence. All you hear is the wind."

http://www.peltzer.net/ebike/PA_FAQ.htm

[8mmUltra]

No matter how many times you repeat yourself, doesn't make it true.:loon:


Tasteless = Fan of 8mmUltra :lol:... I like the electric bike, 15 to 20 miles is a fair range and remember the stelth factor. Oops you did!

[8mmUltra]

I had thought about that option, but I think the time, effort, resources, and space needed to grow the fuel would be far too overwhelming in the height of an outbreak. Maybe once the undead hordes have been culled it would be possible, but then again any viable farming land would be better used to grow food. Here's an interesting alternative:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_Gas_Generator

:lol:Tasteless = Fan of 8mmUltra:lol::lol::lol:
There is a greater ability of finding old vegetable oil than refined “Propane” post an OUTBREAK…. The survivor market will be too small and won’t focus on what is commonly thought of as “Tasteless” {oops} waist product. There should be plenty of fast food places with fryers filled with this stuff…. BIO-Diesel!

[zombieslayr]

Tasteless = Fan of 8mmUltra hmmmmmm well then since me and 8mm are friends I guess that means

Tasteless = Fan of zombieslayr!!!


The only thing about cargo in bikes though is if you dont have the baskets on both sides balanced, it will make pedaling a lot harder. It will also put more strain on the motor making it more prone to malfunction. Like that wise man said

"Its very hard to call anything perfect"

[Corpse Grinder]

Oh no! I'm throwing out my serious side for a moment...

And now for something completely different- the latest in a propane-propelled bicycle that can REALLY go anywhere!

http://www.cyclecide.com/beer/uploads/2006/04/JBBroomBike2.jpg

[SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty]

Tasteless = Fan of 8mmUltra :lol:..

*PLONK* Buh-bye jackass!

Tasteless = Fan of 8mmUltra hmmmmmm well then since me and 8mm are friends I guess that means

Tasteless = Fan of zombieslayr!!!


I don't know who you are, or what business you have in this, but *PLONK* buh-bye to you too, jackass.

Oh no! I'm throwing out my serious side for a moment...

And now for something completely different- the latest in a propane-propelled bicycle that can REALLY go anywhere!

http://www.cyclecide.com/beer/uploads/2006/04/JBBroomBike2.jpg

LOL!:lol:

[8mmUltra]

“Found: the perfect survival vehicle” yet it is not so perfect. Weed eater, gasoline powered, bicycle, in the interest of helping fellow ATZ’rs a few flaws were pointed out. The bike is noisy , limited ability to carry supplies, no clutch so the motor and wheel still rotates making it difficult to stop while running, and NO peddles, if you run out of fuel or motor breaks.

Again other ATZ’rs come up with suggestion to improve the post and the weedcycle or alternative vehicles for Z-Day. I suggested a Quad (Polaris MV-7). Others ideas, Badonkadonk Land Cruiser, Atlasphere, turrent-mounted-minigun equipped SUV, NAGAOKA Blimp, Good ole mountain bike, balloon chair, jet pack, to Kangoo Jumps boots, and many more.

These other suggestions are all good ideas. These and the other suggestions are all flawed. The best one could hope for is to have the “Best Survival Vehicle” that will meet their individual needs based on their location and survival plan. Has the perfect survival vehicle been found? Yes, but only in the eyes of the user of that vehicle. I’ll stay with my flawed MV-7 and see you all in the “reconstruction.”

[Malek]

Wow,nice ideas here,But that 8mm guy is being a complete and utter...hmm....whats the word...................Child?? Baby?? about it whatever word ya wanna use hes been an......Hmmm an Ass?? a moron?? who knows but the right words out there somewhere...

[8mmUltra]

Malek = Fan of 8mmultra… Thank you for the kind words and what information did you bring to this topic? I suggested a Quad (Polaris MV-7) you brought nothing to the table with your “Tasteless” comments. I still believe there is no PERFECT survival vehicle, however, the MV-7 is better than most and not as good as some.

[Malek]

Malek = Fan of 8mmultra… Thank you for the kind words and what information did you bring to this topic? I suggested a Quad (Polaris MV-7) you brought nothing to the table with your “Tasteless” comments. I still believe there is no PERFECT survival vehicle, however, the MV-7 is better than most and not as good as some.

I may not have given any ideas to the rest but at least i didnt go around being a complete ass to everyone,Now if you dont mind i would like to end this "fight" Here and Now

As for an Idea that Moterbike sounds like a real good one,only problems are safety and getting supplys,but would be Great for recon,Moveing from here to there fast just after a zombie raid or just when you cant go on walking.'


Edit:While i am here put like 5 guys on 5 of those bikes and have em ride in with GUns shooting at things that would be Awesome

[8mmUltra]

I may not have given any ideas to the rest but at least i didnt go around being a complete ass to everyone,Now if you dont mind i would like to end this "fight" Here and Now

As for an Idea that Moterbike sounds like a real good one,only problems are safety and getting supplys,but would be Great for recon,Moveing from here to there fast just after a zombie raid or just when you cant go on walking.'


Edit:While i am here put like 5 guys on 5 of those bikes and have em ride in with GUns shooting at things that would be Awesome

I wonder where you read these comments... 8mmUltra maybe? ? ? ? ? Yes, I think so... Don't open the "Tasteless" can unless you want to be an ASS! P.S. Get Spell Check!

[Malek]

3 things 8mm
1 I wished for the fight to end,guess not.
2 Tastless...Hmm wtf does that mean
3 Your a ignorent moron,Excuse the harsh words but its true,your Ego is as big as this planet and your need to make your self feel better is even bigger.

[zombieslayr]

Let me ask you something Malek. What happens when that motor bike breaks or runs out of gas in the middle of a zombie horde? Ill tell you what happens........ a zombie delacacy "Human on Wheels". If petrol is your ONLY and DEPENDANT energy soucre you should consider a new mode of transport.

[8mmUltra]

3 things 8mm
1 I wished for the fight to end,guess not.
2 Tastless...Hmm wtf does that mean
3 Your a ignorent moron,Excuse the harsh words but its true,your Ego is as big as this planet and your need to make your self feel better is even bigger.

“Ye without sin cast the first stone….. “ You started the “Tasteless” insults. Use spell check and see how APOLOGY is spelled!
Tastless = Tasteless
end,guess = end, guess
ignorent = ignorant
moron,Excuse = moron, Excuse
true,your = true, your

[Malek]

Let me ask you something Malek. What happens when that motor bike breaks or runs out of gas in the middle of a zombie horde? Ill tell you what happens........ a zombie delacacy "Human on Wheels". If petrol is your ONLY and DEPENDANT energy soucre you should consider a new mode of transport.

I always have a back up plan,when i am gonna do is have skates,when it runs outta gass the skates go on,if i die who cares,if i died then it needed to die,and as for Mr.Tastelss this and that

Shove it because i am sick of people like you

[zombieslayr]

You called down the fire and now you are going to get it. I was trying to be polite and help you out and you just call me a jerk. So basically your plan is to sit on a dead motor bike while zeds are coming at you from all directions. In the stress of the situation you are shaking like you have parkinsons, then you have to get these skates out of where they are stoed, put them on and gather enough speed to get out of the crowd. This doesnt seem to be an effective method because it takes to long to go from one method of transport to another.

[8mmUltra]

I always have a back up plan,when i am gonna do is have skates,when it runs outta gass the skates go on,if i die who cares,if i died then it needed to die,and as for Mr.Tastelss this and that

Shove it because i am sick of people like you

plan,when = plan, when
i = I
gonna = going to
skates,when = skates, when
outta = out of
gass = gas
on,if = on, if
cares,if = cares, if
die,and = die,and
Mr.Tastelss = Mr. Tastelss

SPELL CHECK! ! !

[Malek]

You called down the fire and now you are going to get it. I was trying to be polite and help you out and you just call me a jerk. So basically your plan is to sit on a dead motor bike while zeds are coming at you from all directions. In the stress of the situation you are shaking like you have parkinsons, then you have to get these skates out of where they are stoed, put them on and gather enough speed to get out of the crowd. This doesnt seem to be an effective method because it takes to long to go from one method of transport to another.


O.o i called you a jerk??? woh woh woh?? if i called you a jerk i am VARY sorry for it anything of the word "Jerk" or the such wouldve been pointed at 8mm not you i am Vary sorry if i did and such i take it back

[zombieslayr]

Call my friend a jerk you call me one as well.

By the way

Vary = very
i = I
O.o = Oh
woh = woah
wouldve = would've

[8mmUltra]

O.o i called you a jerk??? woh woh woh?? if i called you a jerk i am VARY sorry for it anything of the word "Jerk" or the such wouldve been pointed at 8mm not you i am Vary sorry if i did and such i take it back

wouldve = would’ve SPELL CHECK.

[Malek]

I dont have anything to you,just your "Freind" and thats it.

[8mmUltra]

Polaris MV-7

[zombieslayr]

Mountain bike

[8mmUltra]

Mountain bike

I am sure you could live with that...

[zombieslayr]

Its only to get me to the woods half a mile away. Once Im in the woods, I ditch the bike and walk.

[Darkness]

"Children, Children, CHILDREN! Start playing nice, or I'm going to have to come through here with a tranquillizer gun, and put you all out of your misery!!" :evil:

[8mmUltra]

I bow to your "DARKNESS"... Hmmmm? tranquillizer? Sounds intesting...:evil:Better not operate heavy machinery!

[Zerombie]

I'm almost paranoid about posting on this "topic" but here it goes.

It depends vastly on the situation. Why do I need the vehicle? Escaping an outbreak as soon as it happens? Traveling to isolation? Raiding?

As far as escape, I would have to say a dirtbike. On and off road capabilities. Get some saddle bags and a book bag for the essential supplies and get the hell out of dodge. I figure it can't be THAT dangerous unless you live somewhere like NYC, or San Diego. Given my area, you'd have to be a complete moron to NOT notice a dangerous mob of Zeds. And when you DO see one, off road time!

Traveling to isolation... Again, it varies greatly. I live within 200 miles of varying environments, so a motorbike with adecent range would be agood bet for maneuverability.

Of course, what nobody seems to point out is the odds of havingother people with you. Unless you don't have friends, which seems to be the case with some people, and your family would rather be a group of Zeds than be associated with you during the apocalypse.

[Corpse Grinder]

Have No Fear - If your motor bike runs out of gas, or your bicycle has a flat, just unstrap that pogo stick from your back pack and jump over them zeds!!

http://www.amarillo.com/images/012707/42293_512.jpg

Of course, what nobody seems to point out is the odds of having other people with you.

Just supply your family with Zoingo Boingos and you're good to go!!! :lol:

http://www.coolthings.com.au/images/zoingo_boingo_kids.jpg

[8mmUltra]

Zerombie - "There is no need to fear, 8mmUltra is here”

Now back to your post…. “Why do I need the vehicle? Escaping an outbreak as soon as it happens? Traveling to isolation? Raiding?” Exactly! The way I see it, all of those reasons are valid.

I have said many times a motorcycle (in your case, “dirt bike”) is a good idea. If you decide to add the saddlebags then you overcome (partially) one of my objections. Remember if you toss a few 1 gallon cans of fuel into the bottom of your saddle bags you could double your range. (I stated, on my Polaris MV-7 I had a rack built to carry and additional 20 gallons of fuel and increase my range by 200 %.)

Side note:
1. You brought an idea to the thread not insults.
2. I was at an Emergency Medical Services convention in N.O. when Katrina hit, I evacuated on Sunday with most everyone else. There were several people on Motorcycles leaving the city and one motorbike had Dad as driver, Baby in front of him, baby behind him, and Mom last in the seat. They past us like we were standing still in traffic (oops we were standing still in traffic).

C.G. – You are not right in the head…. :lol::loon::lol: Love the post!

[Pain]

I'm going with the Pogo Stick.

Now, as Darkness said, play nice from now on.

[headshotscrazy]

I know this vehicle sounds as feasible as driving a ambulance at near walking speed with the sirens wailing and a sign on the roof saying "Please Form A Orderly Queue!" But how useful would a hearse be?

[Malek]

Darkness 8mm has been PMing me ALL DAY calling me a "PUNK",saying my mom and dad should've PAID to send me to school,AND he keeps jumping at me over my ****ING SPELLING

[8mmUltra]

I have forwarded those e-mails to “Darkness”, many times I’ve asked you for PEACE… But NO, you insulted me… I want to play nice, I will not allow you to insult me unanswered.

[BobbyCord]

If this guy has offered to make peace with youwhy haven't you?

[Corpse Grinder]

I was at an Emergency Medical Services convention in N.O. when Katrina hit, I evacuated on Sunday with most everyone else. There were several people on Motorcycles leaving the city and one motorbike had Dad as driver, Baby in front of him, baby behind him, and Mom last in the seat. They past us like we were standing still in traffic (oops we were standing still in traffic).

The Multiple-Family-UniBike, on sale now!!! :lol:

http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/images/01_2004_0814chinatrip9aug14aug0140.jpg

[Malek]

:lol::lol::lol: LOL man this topic is funny!

[8mmUltra]

C.G. – You are not right in the head…. :loon:

Once again, :clap:

[Corpse Grinder]

C.G. – You are not right in the head…. :loon:

Once again, :clap:

Well, my dad did drop me on my head when I was several months old! True story!!! :lol:

[Dark Comic]

I know this vehicle sounds as feasible as driving a ambulance at near walking speed with the sirens wailing and a sign on the roof saying "Please Form A Orderly Queue!" But how useful would a hearse be?

Actualy I don't think a hearse would be too bad. There would be enough space for sleeping and/or supplys in the back and it fits the badass/morbid coolness that everybody seems to crave when the world is going to hell. The biggest downside would be the lack of off road abilities but from the stories I hear of the stumpjumping that goes on around here almost any vehicle can go off road if you know how to drive it.

[Corpse Grinder]

I know this vehicle sounds as feasible as driving a ambulance at near walking speed with the sirens wailing and a sign on the roof saying "Please Form A Orderly Queue!" But how useful would a hearse be?

Aha! Not only can you drop off a few dead bodies along the way with a Hearse, but with THIS Hearse you can go almost anywhere if you have to!!! :lol:

http://www.angelzfunnyz.com/Portals/0/Gallery/Album/5/bigfoot-hearse.jpg

[mattifikation]

I want that SUV with the mini-gun. Zombies or no zombies, I want it. Where can I get one? Is it street legal?

[Elizabeth]

Great rides, guys!

[Zerombie]

At the risk of sounding like a redneck... Anyone heard of the Grave Digger?

I actually want a hearse of my own anyways. Not that I'm some morbid person. Those things look awesome!

[8mmUltra]

YES!, RedNeck we have.... LOL :lol:

[Corpse Grinder]

I want that SUV with the mini-gun. Zombies or no zombies, I want it. Where can I get one? Is it street legal?

Heh! It figures that someone out there has already thought of it!

http://66.34.10.12/aaamembersnew/zac/alexi_hearse_guns_1.jpg

http://www.hearseclub.com/images/gallery2006/26fdgd2004/alexi_hearse_b.jpg

[Dark Comic]

Ok so whos the photoshop genius that can merge those two hearses?

[Zerombie]

So, now we know what the Ghostbusters do when their main concern goes from ghosts to the more physical unded...


"There's something strange. In the neighborhood. WHo ya gonna call? ----gaaaagrrrrhhhh......"

[Spook1313]

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w208/Sp00k1313/prancinghorse.jpg
I'd pick this! zombie outbreak or not this just ROCKS!!!!

[Corpse Grinder]

You can easily find a blimp at any football stadium or county fair.

http://www.dirizabl.co.yu/images/history/snoopy.jpg

It could be a quick and easy getaway if you can figure out how to operate one of these-
Hey! Look out! You're getting to close to that tower-

http://www.saint.org/blog/uploaded_images/hindenburg-771072.jpg


http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/hindenburg.jpg

http://www.rubinville.com/dailydave/uploaded_images/burnt_toast-736776.jpg

Uhh, nevermind!

[PuppiePusher]

Hello, long time reader, first time poster. It might have been mentioned but has anyone thought of the good old military Deuce and a half. Large towing/cargo capacity. Great off-road ability. And can run on anything from gas, diesel, heck you can start pouring bottles of grey goose into the tank and it will run. Only 2 real down sides...It’s big, and noisy.

p.s Pardon the spelling and grammar, I went to public school.....in Kentucky...

[vortec1]

Taking my 4 door chevy 4x4. when In doubt just run it over!

[AN OLD SHOE]

my plans are to go on foot...but if the zeds are runners....iget a dirt bike or ATV...everything i am going to bring will fit in 2 back packs until i get to my safe place....

if i had to take people with me though...i would take my truck and pile all of the survivors in the back of it....

[8mmUltra]

I have to agree with half of you.... ATV over the dirt bike...

[Mygeeto]

ill take Death Tone anyday

[Augustus Desius]

Penny Farthing. This Victorian beauty is the Cadalac of bicycles. It Comes with lots of options too, such as the turbo ( Large bottle rocket attachment) and hundreds of zombie slicing defense platforms (any place you can tape or glue a knife).

But thats not all. If top-of-the-line defense and lightning fast transportation isn't enough, you can truely feel like undead nobility riding high above you're competition. All eyes will be on you, staring blankly with hunger that just might resemble envy as you glide gracefully by. And such envy will be deserved as you will be riding THE greatest vehicle to have ever graced any planet, in the history of the universe.

Interested? I knew you would be! Now because of limited quantity (such perfection takes time and resources) the normal going rate for one of these miracles is normally $15,000 US. But, because of the encroaching zompocalypse and due to this groups unyeilding effort of preserving the living, I'll drop the price not by $1000, not by $2000, but by $5000!! Not only that, but if you pay with you're credit card in the next 20 min, I will throw in a role of our custom made Penny Farthing duct tape and 5 Zombie-Slasher blade attachments. Thats a googleplex value, for FREE! Call now and ask for our 1 year payment plan, for the everyday survivor on the go!

Disclaimer: Individual survival experiences may vary. Penny Farthing Emporium is not responsible of any damages acquired through construction or use of its products, including but not limited to: Burns, blasts, lacerations, broken limbs, fatal falls, or unintended decapitations. For best results, refer to the Penny Farthing user manual.

[28xxresidentsofevil]

I would personally get a police SUV, stick a few LED lights on it, and get a ton of gas (Which policemen are gonna stop me? They're too busy fighting off zeds) and load up. Then just drive minimally and keep movin'... You're golden, baby.

[AN OLD SHOE]

you check this out...i cant find much info on this but this is deffinatly on my list for a vehichle...it looks like it can float on water and stuff aswell as drive...looks good/safe to me... i say we all get one and put a dirtbike/ATV in there with us..it will fit...


http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/24921/

[DJKahuna]

Every member of the CSA gets to drive one of these babys!

http://csa.clangrid.com/user/139110/genleetruck2.jpg

I know. Sexy. Made in the US of A!

[detpat]

uuuhhhh, ok

[Countbad]

http://www.kevinkirby.com/images/Site_Images/Combine_Hire/COMBINE3.JPG

I'd go for one of these. Just reinforce the cockpit and you have the ultimate deathmobile.

[ZombieFreeWorld]

motorcycles are horriable for zombie protection. im going to stick to my truck for the job. i can get where i need to go quick and kill zombies on the way. i would modifiy it to run on corn oil...the new type of fuel that is run off of grease and stuff. which is a simple 35 USD and is easy to put in

[hatefuldisplay]

Thought I'd post this awesomely modified bike as the perfect zombie outbreak survival vehicle. It gets 200 mpg, goes 25 mph (faster than any shambler can walk/run), and can be picked up with one finger, thrown over a fence or other obstacle, and ridden away to safety. How cool is that!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uruaRsCHvk4

Not bad. A bit exposed for my taste and I'm not always the most attentive. I'd hate to see what I might run over after years of being spoiled by driving cars and trucks.

I think I'd take my chances in this:

http://www.methodshop.net/gadgets/reviews/donk/index.shtml
http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-2005-NAO-Design-JL421-Badonkadonk.htm

Gotta love a Badonkadonk

Crew of five on the inside and five more on the roof? Is the guy in the picture a giant then? I can't picture five full-sized people on the inside and five more on the roof if he's an average sized person unless that's a miniature model. If he's average and that's the full-sized model, you might get one person cramped inside and one unsteadily balanced on the roof.

Great name though.

Aha! Not only can you drop off a few dead bodies along the way with a Hearse, but with THIS Hearse you can go almost anywhere if you have to!!! :lol:

http://www.angelzfunnyz.com/Portals/0/Gallery/Album/5/bigfoot-hearse.jpg

That, I could deal with. Enough room to carry a decent crew and plenty of equipment. I suppose you could also run over cars blocking the roads in some circumstances.

Heh! It figures that someone out there has already thought of it!

http://66.34.10.12/aaamembersnew/zac/alexi_hearse_guns_1.jpg

http://www.hearseclub.com/images/gallery2006/26fdgd2004/alexi_hearse_b.jpgThis would be great in an outbreak in which none of the roads were blocked. I suppose if an outbreak occurred early in the morning and went fast like the DOTD remake or 28 Days Later....

you check this out...i cant find much info on this but this is deffinatly on my list for a vehichle...it looks like it can float on water and stuff aswell as drive...looks good/safe to me... i say we all get one and put a dirtbike/ATV in there with us..it will fit...


http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/24921/Nice pick. You'd have to stay down south where the weather was more pleasant or close it off somehow.

Personally, I think this might work: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/imgs/m88.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp%3Farmor_id%3D8&h=250&w=300&sz=19&hl=en&start=10&um=1&tbnid=KeUZ7_rDoxho0M:&tbnh=97&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3DM-88%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfire fox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG

I've been in them on a number of occasions. They're a beast. The only thing that would suck is if you threw track...

[Countbad]

Well I swear by my 4.0L Jeep Wrangler. It is truely first and foremost an offroad vehicle. I've driven mine thru stuff I wouldnt even dream of driving my 4wd pick-up thru. Deep snow, mud, water, ATV trails, Utah's Hole-in-the-Rock Road, you name it. It can literally turn on a dime. Parts are plentiful and the engine is relatively easy to work on. Lets face it, if you live anywhere near a major city, you will eventually hit a choke point jammed with traffic. My jeep is the only vehicle I'd trust besides my ATV not to get stuck offroad.

[Hunk]

I was thinkinhg on a truck, something big, enough big to transport people, store supplies and enough big to avoid zombie attacks.

[ZombieFreeWorld]

I was thinkinhg on a truck, something big, enough big to transport people, store supplies and enough big to avoid zombie attacks.


get a big ass 18 wheeler. with the attachment. you can carry tons of supplies and have the double trailer to have your survivors in one of them with stuff to defend against zombies climbing up. the front of the truck could have a plow on it so you can mow the zombies down.

[Hunk]

I was thinkinhg on a truck, something big, enough big to transport people, store supplies and enough big to avoid zombie attacks.

[ZombieFreeWorld]

look at the top post i just said a 18 wheeler is a truck. it would do you justice

[nirvroxx]

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z68/nirvroxx/mudplay.jpg
thats what I'd take, cause that what I have. I'd just add an extra 30 gallon fuel tank.

[Boozbie]

Nice rig your gonna be having alot more fun than most people in that thing. Sometimes i get the feeling half the reason people want zombies to happen is to finally use all that sweet stuff the have to its full potential.

Ok i just realized a super sweet survival vehicle are you ready....

A freaking ultralight aircraft!!

I never even considered it as a viable means of escape but my old man just got a super sweet one and I am jealous as all hell! I am about to sneak over there and fly that thing into the sunset and have all sorts of completely awesome adventures with it!

It takes less than 100 yards to go airborne can go hundreds of miles on a few gallons of gas and can carry something like 400 extra pounds of gear. They fly at around 50-60 but they can go as slow as 23 and its relatively quiet. When he was showing me he took it down about a hundred yards and i could barely hear it. Then when you cut the engine its completely silent and you could land in a space of less than 100 feet. Basically any stretch of road 200 feet long is a viable runway. Its got ski's for the snow and hes talking about getting some floats with wheels.

Its not the perfect escape vehicle and i know you would frequently be subject to the weather.....but its way too freaking cool to leave behind and stay on the ground when you can fly!

[JayMac]

My vote goes to the US Army's new MRAP-
http://img166.imagevenue.com/loc837/th_50332_MRAP_Cat_1_navistar_122_837lo.jpg (http://img166.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50332_MRAP_Cat_1_navistar_122_837lo. jpg)

Or maybe the Stryker. The advantage of the latter of course is that the top mounted MG can be operated by remote control from inside the vehicle.

Sure they might suck a lot of gas but if there's a horde of zombies wandering the streets, I want some armour between me and them!

[Subgenius]

I think that I will stay with my F-350 Peterbilt, LOL.

http://truckaccessoryguide.com/img/redpeterbilta.jpg

Wrecked cars on the highway? Just plow through them, LOL.

It seats four people with storage in the back.

Just get a bed cover to keep stenches out.

[Z-Day is very soon]

i'd steal a soviet made ba-6 it might be old but it looks good!

[kai055]

i was thinkin if you could make a anti zed tank or something one that lines wat would other people have like it being fast rapid fire weapons or slow with one shot kills many as the ownly other link is on existing transport.
:clap:

[Darkness]

i was thinkin if you could make a anti zed tank or something one that lines wat would other people have like it being fast rapid fire weapons or slow with one shot kills many as the ownly other link is on existing transport.
:clap:

"PLEASE! Use the index and do a search before starting new threads!" :x

[kai055]

but im did this thread is about normal transports not homemade transports

[Darkness]

"No, it's about Anti-Zombie Transportation, IN GENERAL. All we ask is try to keep it feasible." ;-)

[bandits1]

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3645/apcmy2.gif

[Lian]

In a perfect world where I don't have to worry about fuel economy. I'd go with one of these...no the one in the back silly.

http://www.wvminesafety.org/trucks.gif

Put a small house in the back and you got a mobile home.

More realistically I'd drive this, assuming I could learn and/or find someone to drive it.

http://www.businessinnovationinsider.com/images/2006/05/Goodyear%20blimp.jpg


I'll probably end up in one of these though. Just cause I know they can do this and I can pull it off myself.

http://www.stu-offroad.com/98tj/tj-may-2006.jpg

Though if I could pick anything I wanted with no limits I'd get one of these hands down.


http://web.mit.edu/ealba/Public/deathstar.jpg

[Tripoli]

All of the rides are OK but they become worthless piles of poo when fuel is gone. Believe me fuel will be gone sooner than you think.

[kai055]

but u can disiel tranprts on cooking oil as well a methane

[Tripoli]

Cooking oil will turn rancid and won’t work. . . and you know how to manufacture methane?

[Lian]

Can't speak for the above guy but I do know how to A make Vegetable Oil. B make Bio Diesel and C I know how to extend the shelf life of diesel to about 9-10 years.

Additionally you can stock up on PRI-G which can in fact restore junk Diesel to usable conditions. I think PRI also makes a fuel stabilizer but I'm not sure off hand.

[Slayer]

To me, there is something about small 4 cylinder pickup trucks, today all but Ford has stopped making compact pickup trucks. With one of these you can still haul and tow a load, not as much as a full size with a V6 or V8, but with these you maintain a good amount of utility, and good gas mileage. The 98 Tacoma we have get's 20 city, 25 hwy, and one time we got 29 hwy.

With a pickup truck you can haul all the supplies you need in the bed. I would store extra fuel, 5 gallon military cans for gasoline are great to secure in the back of one, in an outbreak I would like a full tank of gas and about 20 gallons or more carried in the bed. You could have a ATV in the back if you wanted to, and could use it as a scouting vehicle, or something to use in case the truck breaks down. I would probably use it to get the stuff I need to get the truck going again.

[RogueAI]

I think the perfect survival vehicle would run on hydrogen. With fifty thousand dollars you can buy a rig that converts solar power & atmosphere into hydrogen that can be used to power your car, heat & provide electricity to your house, and provide you with clean oxygen and drinking water (not enough to live on, though). It is superior to batteries in this instance because it can be stored in underground tanks for long periods of time. You also have much less hassle then when dealing with bio or traditional fueling.

I am not a fan of hydrogen as our nations primary fuel source. It is a marketing scheme designed to improve the image of oil and car companies while keeping us dependent on oil. Even if we ever manage to switch to hydrogen it is still turning electricity into hydrogen to turn it back into electricity creating a bigger environmental impact then pure electric cars. We do, in fact, have electric cars that fit into most city dwellers life style, however, when laws changed they were disposed off.

edit; Btw, Vegetable Oil DOES NOT equal biofuel. It needs to be processed before it can be used in diesel automobiles. If you just shove the used Vegetable oil found in restaurants directly into your fuel tank, as 8mmUltra suggested, then the zombies will kill you before you pollute the human gene pool. Biofuel destroys the rubber fuel lines in your automobile. You must replace them with plastic fuel lines. Food and particles must be filtered from the used cooking oil to avoid clogging fuel lines. Finally, the oil needs to be processed to allow the engine to run on it.

Btw #2, Home heating fluid is normal diesel with a blue die in it. Its MUCH cheaper, though. ;)

[DBCooper]

Right. . . The Veg Oil thing just won't work. . How about an EV with 4x4 and solar pannels. . . Now thats a RIDE!

[Lian]

Yea your right on the diesel truck not running on straight veggie oil. Diesel tucks do run on Veg oil they just have to be modified too do it, they got two tanks one to start and heat up the oil and the veggie oil tank. And the Veggie oil needs to be A mixed with a small amount of Diesel or B put in an additive to thicken the oil. Region effects how long you have to warm up the oil as well before you can switch of running diesel. On my pops truck it takes about 15 min to heat the Veggie oil to the proper temp under normal conditions, 20-25 in snow, and 2-3 in Arizona heat. It's not a total fix but it's a start in the right direction and will cut your diesel consumption considerably. But going that way plus with the ability to make your own bio-diesel to get it going to begin with helps you along your way to being able to become self sufficient.

Also it was mentioned that Bio-Diesel damage's the rubber component's in your truck...that's both true and not true. Any blend B20 or higher will corrode the rubber however anything less than B20 is safe for use. Also you can A trade out seals and such for plastic or you can use Viton hoses and seals which is a synthetic rubber and not subject to these problems.

Also pure Bio-Diesel is harder to store than regular so it should be used sooner.

It's all in planning ahead to pull it off.


And IMO a system like this is safer and easier to use than a hydrogen based transport system but to each their own. Pure hydrogen is more dangerous to store and transport than Vegetable oil and a few gallons of Bio-Diesel. Not to mention any difficulties in finding hydrogen in a post apocalyptic world.

[RogueAI]

Yea your right on the diesel truck not running on straight veggie oil. Diesel tucks do run on Veg oil they just have to be modified too do it, they got two tanks one to start and heat up the oil and the veggie oil tank. And the Veggie oil needs to be A mixed with a small amount of Diesel or B put in an additive to thicken the oil. Region effects how long you have to warm up the oil as well before you can switch of running diesel. On my pops truck it takes about 15 min to heat the Veggie oil to the proper temp under normal conditions, 20-25 in snow, and 2-3 in Arizona heat. It's not a total fix but it's a start in the right direction and will cut your diesel consumption considerably. But going that way plus with the ability to make your own bio-diesel to get it going to begin with helps you along your way to being able to become self sufficient.

Also it was mentioned that Bio-Diesel damage's the rubber component's in your truck...that's both true and not true. Any blend B20 or higher will corrode the rubber however anything less than B20 is safe for use. Also you can A trade out seals and such for plastic or you can use Viton hoses and seals which is a synthetic rubber and not subject to these problems.

Also pure Bio-Diesel is harder to store than regular so it should be used sooner.

It's all in planning ahead to pull it off.


And IMO a system like this is safer and easier to use than a hydrogen based transport system but to each their own. Pure hydrogen is more dangerous to store and transport than Vegetable oil and a few gallons of Bio-Diesel. Not to mention any difficulties in finding hydrogen in a post apocalyptic world.

You can make the hydrogen yourself with the 50,000 dollar rig I was talking about. It includes the machines to do all the fancy stuff with your house, but doesn't come with a car. It is almost entirely safe, though a catastrophic error could leave you with a big fire ball to signal zombies/raiders and no power. The upside is it is much easier to make then biodiease because the process is entirely automated. I'm lazy and willing to risk it. ^_^ I would want to test the system out for a year or two pre-WWZ though.

Biodiesel is is probably the easiest to get/use, though. I don't dispute in many situations it would be best. The area I plan on living in has a short growing season and only small amounts of flat farm land. It does, however, get plenty of sun for solar and streams for microhydro power.

[Lian]

50G to run a house on Hydrogen huh...

Well barring that, that easily costs more than my car it does have some merit I guess. What would you need to keep it running though? Can't make something from nothing after all.

I'm still thinking that it's a risky venture though. Zombie take over, there is gonna be a lot of guns, lot of adrenaline and a lot of chances for a misfire or a bullet to ricochet. And if there is even a slight leak in the tank hydrogen being a gas will get into the air and spread far and thick in no time.

[ZombiesArePeopleToo]

You guys need to read the zombie survival guide, you're making a ton of errors on pretty basic stuff.

The bike idea you have is a terrible idea because it negates a bikes' largest advantage, silence! That thing was really loud, you'd be trapped in no time and devoured.

[RogueAI]

50G to run a house on Hydrogen huh...

Well barring that, that easily costs more than my car it does have some merit I guess. What would you need to keep it running though? Can't make something from nothing after all.

I'm still thinking that it's a risky venture though. Zombie take over, there is gonna be a lot of guns, lot of adrenaline and a lot of chances for a misfire or a bullet to ricochet. And if there is even a slight leak in the tank hydrogen being a gas will get into the air and spread far and thick in no time.

Solar power & atmosphere. The photovoltaic panels are included in the 50k USD though. The cost is prohibitive, I admit that. It should be coming down though as right now this is new technology.

The swarm of zombies is one advantage of this over home-grown biofuel. With zombies swarming you enmass anything outside of your fence can't be used for farming. Half an acer should feed one person, but a car requires (probably) requires a lot more. In that situation, I suppose it could be argued that you wouldn't be driving much, in which case hydrogen still trumps pure photovoltaic power stored in batteries when talking electricity. The hydrogen system is a more efficient long-term store of electricity then batteries, which have a shorter life span and 'leak' electricty. If the hydrogen tanks go, you could always convert your house to pure photovoltaic/battery power if you store some batteries (without the acid) in the basement.

The systems are so close together as far as which is better goes, it really comes down to availability and preference.

(Photovoltaic cells tend to last 20 years outdoors inside their panel, in use batteries tend to last 10 years. With a few spare parts the hydrogen system could last a life time; spare parts including backup photovoltaic cells. As a last resort, you could build a water wheel to provide me with [small amounts of] electricity.)

[RogueAI]

You guys need to read the zombie survival guide, you're making a ton of errors on pretty basic stuff.

The bike idea you have is a terrible idea because it negates a bikes' largest advantage, silence! That thing was really loud, you'd be trapped in no time and devoured.

The zombie survival guide is not the be all end all of survivalism; zombies or no zombies. It was written by a fiction author, and one source should never be used to cover an entire subject. Max Brooks is great, but one book could never cover all situations.

Pre-Zombies, when they are heading your way but not there yet, and the streets are flooded with automobiles trying to escape the infected hoard then motorcycles are great. They also make great backups vehicles.

As for silence, remember, humans make noise too, and sound is not the zombies only form of detection. Better to be easily detectable and able to escape then be hard to detect but unable to escape. When there are thousands of zombies in the woods stealth only goes so far before you make a mistake.

Edit; Hydrogen cars are silent because they are not directly using the hydrogen for fuel. Instead of combusting the hydrogen they add oxygen to turn it into an H2O molecule. This process creates electricity which powers the car.

Edit #2; I believe everybody on these forums has read the Zombie Survival Guide. Many of the people on these forums probably are actively preparing for zombies (myself not included). Finally, at least one person on these forums almost assuredly believes he has killed a zombie (again, not me. Its only speculation). No need to tell people to read the Zombie Survival Guide. ...I wonder if Lian has removed his stairs yet...

[Lian]

:lol: Na stairs are still there but I could knock them out in about 15 minutes if I wanted to. :evil:

Na actually most of my plan is to get out of Dodge and go from there. And it's for more than just zombies. In my eye's the world is going to dissolve into dog eat dog, everyman for himself anarchy, and/or Global War, and soon. I'm preparing for any and all eventualities that I can conceivably can, be it zombies taking over the world or The United World Federation minus the United States.

I guess you could say survival and being the last man standing is my life and goal.

[RogueAI]

:lol: Na stairs are still there but I could knock them out in about 15 minutes if I wanted to. :evil:

Na actually most of my plan is to get out of Dodge and go from there. And it's for more than just zombies. In my eye's the world is going to dissolve into dog eat dog, everyman for himself anarchy, and/or Global War, and soon. I'm preparing for any and all eventualities that I can conceivably can, be it zombies taking over the world or The United World Federation minus the United States.

I guess you could say survival and being the last man standing is my life and goal.

This is insanely off topic, but you might otta check out Survivalblog.com if you haven't already seen it. It doesn't have anything at all to do with zombies, but it does cover traditional survival with long-term being given the most detail. If you use the archive to read near the beginning I think it was better back then; less doom & gloom.

edit; Huzzah. My 100th post.

[Lian]

This is insanely off topic, but you might otta check out Survivalblog.com if you haven't already seen it. It doesn't have anything at all to do with zombies, but it does cover traditional survival with long-term being given the most detail. If you use the archive to read near the beginning I think it was better back then; less doom & gloom.

edit; Huzzah. My 100th post.

Actually I do frequent a few other survival forums. But I like it here just cause it's less...oh...I'm gonna say serious. It's refreshing.

[RogueAI]

Actually I do frequent a few other survival forums. But I like it here just cause it's less...oh...I'm gonna say serious. It's refreshing.

Have you ever seen a serious zombie discussion? :loon:

[DBCooper]

You guys need to read the zombie survival guide, you're making a ton of errors on pretty basic stuff.

The bike idea you have is a terrible idea because it negates a bikes' largest advantage, silence! That thing was really loud, you'd be trapped in no time and devoured.

Read the ZSG? That is an error all by its self. . . Max was a comedy writer and knows nothing about survival...

[DBCooper]

The EV (Toy 4runner) with 2 battery banks, solar panel, and 4x4 is what I am having built. . . 200 mile range on an 8 hour full sun charge. . .

[RogueAI]

Read the ZSG? That is an error all by its self. . . Max was a comedy writer and knows nothing about survival...

It has its merits. Nothing I can think of off the top of my head was blatantly illogical, counter productive, or self destructive. I think large portions of it were taking from movies. Besides, just because someone was a comedy writer doesn't mean he doesn't know anything about survivalism (though zombie survival would mainly be fictional and best guess anyway)

The EV (Toy 4runner) with 2 battery banks, solar panel, and 4x4 is what I am having built. . . 200 mile range on an 8 hour full sun charge. . .

That is the sexiest thing I have ever heard. 8 hours form a photovoltaic for 200 miles? That is one of the best deals I've ever heard of!

[DBCooper]

Yes, it’s that easy. I bought a 4-Runner, had 2 banks of batteries installed, solar panels that run the length of the roof, and a small1 hp electric motor to power the A/C. I’ve installed a 1000 watt Honda generator as a backup, and if I need to I can plug in to a standard outlet. Triple redundancy and 4x4, who could ask for more?

P.S. while you are running on bank #1 batteries, bank #2 is charging off panel or generator. The generator was added for fun at the campsites but can be used to charge if needed.

[Lian]

An electric 4-Runner is possibly one of the best ideas that we have come up with yet.

One of my issues with it is while 200 miles is in fact quite a ways, I could see myself traveling more than that in a general day, checking perimeters pit stops at important hubs and such, and trips to wherever something happens to go wrong at the time...Maybe a bunch of em? Drive one to one outpost and then switch to the one that's been sitting there charging for a while?

My other issue is you ain't going to be towing nothing with that thing. If you need to lug some trailer of supplies from one side of your safe zone to the other it's just not happening. Not in one trip at least.

[DBCooper]

Disclaimer: To get the 200 miles I have to stay under 50 mph and if I engage the 4x4 miles drop below 150. As of Now I am using it to commute to and from work with a “ZERO” energy cost. My investment was around $13,500 and at current gas prices it will take only 2 years to recoup my investment.

As far as towing, why? I can carry several hundreds of pounds of salvaged goods in my rig. Also, I could bring back fuel to power other transportation vehicles if needed.

[mattifikation]

You got any pictures of that ride? I think that would sure be something to see!

[DBCooper]

You got any pictures of that ride? I think that would sure be something to see!


Sorry no. . . here is the company that did the work for me... Out of Vegas

http://www.grassrootsev.com/motor.htm

[Lian]

Disclaimer: To get the 200 miles I have to stay under 50 mph and if I engage the 4x4 miles drop below 150. As of Now I am using it to commute to and from work with a “ZERO” energy cost. My investment was around $13,500 and at current gas prices it will take only 2 years to recoup my investment.

As far as towing, why? I can carry several hundreds of pounds of salvaged goods in my rig. Also, I could bring back fuel to power other transportation vehicles if needed.

Why wouldn't you want to have the ability to tow? Useful things can weigh a lot like...Oh...towing a water tank? At 3-4 thousand pounds. Lumber for buildings, Horses and other livestock that might otherwise fall into some horrible trap set for a zombie, if you tried to just herd them. And hell doing a raid on a city I guarantee that unless it's already been looted dry I could fill a whole 20 foot trailer with stuff.

Still I'm not saying it's not a good idea it just shouldn't be your "only" means of transport.

[IronJayBee]

I own a Ford Tahoe so i would probably just line it with Sheet metal r something like that

[Slash Maraud]

Realistically, any vehicle that gets you out of the hot zone is the perfect survival vehicle. If it still runs or is in working condition a year later, then you can use it for foraging back into the cities.

The main feature for any vehicle that you use to get out and away from a Zed event, is does it work when needed and can it carry you and all your gear?

If its an SUV so what? As long as it runs out of gas after you're out of the area. If its a bicycle, as long as it can carry what you need to get out of the area, if its a motorized bike of any kind, as long as its working and able to get you out of the area.

If you choose a hot air balloon, you're only concern is how much time does it take to inflate and where do you have to go to lay it out to inflate it and once inflated, how long will it take to load all your gear? How big of a vehicle do you need to carry this balloon, burner and basket? Is it small enough to inflate on a rooftop? If it is, how much weight can it actually carry?

A tunnel boring machine? Well, if you have access to one, best of luck.

[DBCooper]

What you are talking about is an escape ride not a survival vehicle. Your point is well taken though, get out alive. I think some or maybe just me were talking about a long term rig to be used for recon, escape, and pillaging.

[Longrifle]

The EV sounds like a good idea.

This weekend I went out on a house boat with friends. The lake was out of the way and weather was wonderful. While I was driving out I noticed the fuel storage tanks gasoline and diesel. Small out of the way marinas would be a good place to find liquid gold for your motors.

[Leeboy]

Could you, with a highly-skilled pilot, bring in a helicopter low enough to start chopping up zombies with rotors? Is it possible to do that without messing the rotors up? They did it in 28 Weeks Later but, as usual, that was just a movie so I'm not sure.

[Behemoth]

[QUOTE=Leeboy;356399]Could you, with a highly-skilled pilot, bring in a helicopter low enough to start chopping up zombies with rotors? Is it possible to do that without messing the rotors up? They did it in 28 Weeks Later but, as usual, that was just a movie so I'm not sure.[/QUOTE

Military helicopters have armour coated rotors, so what you saw in 28 weeks later was technically possible, in a civillian helicopter the rotors are normally bonded plastic ( fibre glass ) if you so much as hit a sparrow in flight, well you're gonna be landing real fast.

[VXTip556]

i dont think any pilot in there right mind would risk destroying a helicopter and killing themselves by trying to chop some heads with the rotors, there are far better things to do with a chopper

[Behemoth]

i dont think any pilot in there right mind would risk destroying a helicopter and killing themselves by trying to chop some heads with the rotors, there are far better things to do with a chopper
You're correct. However the question was is it possible, yes it is.
Aircraft in general are a poor choice of survival vehicle, due to the service schedules & fuel consumption levels.

[doctorsatan]

well would a real tankwork since, at the base we have tanks', personel carriers' and alot of other armoured vehicles so i guess............... i'm set:rock::rock:

[Subgenius]

Air vehicles would be short-term survival usage, IMO. A helicopter or airplane could get you and your survivor group to a safe location. It would be dangerous, but it could be done. In the long run, however, gas and maintenance would become major problems.

Land vehicles face the same problems, but (perhaps) on a lesser scale. Tanks and semi tractor trailers are big, require specialized maintenance, and use up a lot of fuel. I know that WWZ and TZSG both looked down on sedans, but they are easier to maintain and easier to refuel.

Also, I would not think that any helicopter pilot would use his rotor blades as weapons in any situation. In the original Dawn of the Dead, the use of helicopter rotor blades as weapons was more accidental as that one zombie stood up on those boxes and its head was cut in half by the chopper. In Planet Terror and 28 Weeks Later, however, they did it on purpose. I thought that it was reckless and foolish in both. But, it did look awesome on screen.

[Commander Ambrose]

How awsome would it be to have something like this???Please post what you think and stuff that could be added on!!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Thousands of vehicles-all armed! Huge, AT-AT sized command and control center! The awsomest type of Convoy!!!!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

:drinking::drinking:

:machgun2::zom2:

[mattifikation]

What's going to fuel it?

[Commander Ambrose]

Zombie meat/human blood

[mattifikation]

How are you going to convert that into enough fuel to power a fleet of giant mobile fortresses?

[Commander Ambrose]

we burn it for heat power or smoke power

[Jimmy]

A quad would be the ultimate vehicle. they are pretty easy to fix and get great gas mileage. Plus, they can go off road and on road and some have a topspeed of over 60mph. (Not sure if you'd wanna go that fast on an ATV but who knows.) ._.

They have A TON of options for ATV's too. Like Windshields, hitches, gun carriers, trunks, full cabs, heaters, navigation systems and everything...

[mattifikation]

Burning people for energy would be terribly inefficient. You'd never power a giant mobile fortress with the energy you could get from a body. And on top of that, have you ever smelled burning human flesh?

[jim96sc2]

Burning people for energy would be terribly inefficient. You'd never power a giant mobile fortress with the energy you could get from a body. And on top of that, have you ever smelled burning human flesh?

Dead people don't burn... :loon:

[Jimmy]

Dead people don't burn... :loon:


I bet if you poured kerosene, gasoline, or any other flammable liquid on them they would. ._.

[jim96sc2]

I bet if you poured kerosene, gasoline, or any other flammable liquid on them they would. ._.

And while they walked around burning, subsequently setting fire to your surroundings, what would you do? Also, why would you waste valuable fuel when a hammer to the head would be more effective with less side effects.

[mattifikation]

You're not even talking about the same thing we are. Pay attention!

[detpat]

you don't GET energy from burning bodies, you EXPEND energy TO burn bodes. sounds like something an 11 year old gamer would come up with.

[Commander Ambrose]

Bodies + Gas/flammable stuff = FIRE = HEAT = ENERGY

[Commander Ambrose]

Plus my brother wanted to put his idea up and he got me convinced

[jagus12]

How about a horse?

[mattifikation]

Gas and flammable stuff create fire, heat, and energy on their own. Adding bodies is just going to make it stink and burn less efficiently. There's a reason crematoriums need to be so hot, it's because a campfire won't do the job. A house fire doesn't even usually burn a body.

All you're going to end up doing is sitting in a large, impractical fortress with wheels which is NOT mobile at all - due to the fact that gas production has completely ended - while the smell of burning flesh fills your giant mobile coffin from wall to wall.

Your logic is excessively flawed. Oh, and your signature image is obnoxiously huge...

[Longrifle]

OK, there is nothing perfect! Some survival vehicle that are better than others but to say something is perfect? NO WAY!

[IronJayBee]

Heard a lot of crap about what is the best escaping mode of transport. Well, personally, i would assume a Zeppelin or Airship would be the safest. But the chances of finding one would be very low so... A Mountain bike would be within grasp so i assume that would bebetter, tiring but silent and muscle powered:)

[bandits1]

Why isn't this posted as a response in the "the perfect survival vehicle" thread? Why start a new thread?

[ERiKDude]

Why isn't this posted as a response in the "the perfect survival vehicle" thread? Why start a new thread?


exactly! *high fives*

[DemonChild]

I'm curious, what is your opinion. I say as long as you're not going cross-country with it, and are just using it to go out of your compound, if you've got one, to get supplies and flatten a few zeds along the way, It's a great idea. But if you're planning on the whole RE3 eperience, doesn't seem prudent at all. Penny for your thoughts?

[Dave Of The Dead]

Any time I think of a modified vehicle, I think of a deathtrap on wheels. There are always not enough exits, not enough space, and too many stupid people thinking that they're invincible in them. Can you imagine the Miles/gallon those huge huge things get. That's why in RE Extinction, they had to have a gas tanker in their caravan of gas guzzlers. Give me a moped any day of the week and I'll be happy.

[garthaman]

I personally would have to say that anything, regardless of how strong or fast or anything that it is, is either useless, leathal, or both. For one thing, if its going to survive an onslaught of zombie mayhem, its going to need to be strong as hell. This means your going to strap a bunch of heavy, bulky twisted metal to the sides of it, which is going to weigh it down a ton. This brings in the toque factor. Unless this thing is a tank, its going to go really, really slow. This means that the zombies can claw all over you, and just slowly work their way through your armor.

The second possibility is going really really really fast, and hope that you can outrun the zombies, and your driving abilities are good enough to keep you alive going 100 mph. Even, then anything going that fast is a deathtrap if you get surrounded, and your probably not going to have enough storage room for lugging anything around, making it useless.

Therefore, I am completely against any vehicles, except trains, trains would kick ass.:evil:

[jim96sc2]

I personally would have to say that anything, regardless of how strong or fast or anything that it is, is either useless, leathal, or both. For one thing, if its going to survive an onslaught of zombie mayhem, its going to need to be strong as hell. This means your going to strap a bunch of heavy, bulky twisted metal to the sides of it, which is going to weigh it down a ton. This brings in the toque factor. Unless this thing is a tank, its going to go really, really slow. This means that the zombies can claw all over you, and just slowly work their way through your armor.

The second possibility is going really really really fast, and hope that you can outrun the zombies, and your driving abilities are good enough to keep you alive going 100 mph. Even, then anything going that fast is a deathtrap if you get surrounded, and your probably not going to have enough storage room for lugging anything around, making it useless.

Therefore, I am completely against any vehicles, except trains, trains would kick ass.:evil:

Deisel tucks my friend... You really don't need intense armor, just thick polycorbonate covering the front and rear windows, brush guards in front, undertray, and a decent gauge sheet steel covering side windows.

[garthaman]

Deisel tucks my friend... You really don't need intense armor, just thick polycorbonate covering the front and rear windows, brush guards in front, undertray, and a decent gauge sheet steel covering side windows.

where are you going to get all your gas?

[jim96sc2]

where are you going to get all your gas?

Don't look at me to be making one. The hypothetical was a short range raiding/foraging veichle that could handle a few zeds. Fuel is the same problem we'd have all over. But with Deisel you could raid people home heating oil tanks I guess.

[DemonChild]

Noone specified a specific fuel. For all we know, someone could be running it on cooking oil. That seems to be really plentiful.

[Umbrela]

How durable is it?

[DemonChild]

...How durable is what?

[killnburn]

i haven t read the whole thread, but i think, in the case animal are not infected by zombieism, that a horse would be a very wise choice,

- it can go off road easily

- it has a VERY GOOD stamina

- need little food and rest ( just stop by a field and let it eat for a few minutes)

- is kinda silent

- can carry a good amount of supplies with you

- no need for fuel

- in case its very well trained and you a skilled rider, it can kick zombies in the head ( believe me, a horse kick will easily crush a zed skull)

- and if youre stuck with nothing you can kill it and eat it...

the main disadvantage is the lack of protection

[Umbrela]

...How durable is what?

The motorbike the poster was talking about.

[DemonChild]

...A radio flyer wagon...

[JakAttak]

I guess it sorta depends on what you want to do with it if you want to escape use a bike if you want to fight go with something big and strong like garbage truck or armored car. horses are a mixed bag because you need serious skill and zombies scare animals

[DemonChild]

I've been thinking of modifying one of those old Datsun trucks. That'd be fun.
Well, come to think of it...As soon as you mount a Vulcan on top of anything, it becomes an assault vehicle...But that's beside the point. The reason I say a datsun is they only have a 4cyl and they don't use that much fuel.:drool:

[JakAttak]

A vulcan wouldn't do much against Z's never-mind getting your hands on one

[DemonChild]

I was just kidding around...well at least about the vulcan part.

[JakAttak]

good I think strapping snipers to a garbage truck would be smart

[Kolapsky]

What vehicle would you use during a mass outbreak? Hopefully not something stupid!

My ideal vehicle would probably be my dad's Chevy Trailblazer,it's good on gas and can fit quite a load of people. Get some people sitting in the back shooting out at any zed's to clear an area pretty much.

[bandits1]

Check out this preexisting thread: http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14311

[john154]

AT-AT from Star Wars! Friggin rad! No really that'd be pretty much perfect wouldn't it. However realisticly a good 1.5 or 2.5 tonne truck with reasonable off-road capabilty would be ideal. Keep enough shooters in the back and you'd be fare pretty well as long as you don't stop in foolish places. Better yet have two of said trucks rigged to recover each other from bad spots and to provide fire support and observation.

[Slayer]

Realistically...I would prefer a 4 cylinder (gasoline) pickup truck. Ford Ranger, Toyota Tacoma, Chevrolet S10, etc. You can haul a load and get pretty good gas mileage, I would carry extra fuel in 5 gallon jerry cans in the bed to keep me going for extended distances. If needed a machine gun can be mounted in the bed, it can haul a load of people or supplies, so it is an excellent vehicle to use in foraging for supplies. I would prefer one of these over any SUV, full size truck, van, etc. And for most situations, 2 wheel drive will see you through, especially down here in my area.

[Cassus Putesco]

Pfft, oh gee Bodysnatcher's disagreeing with a post of mine. Whodathunkit:roll:
Well, he IS right.... One of These http://www.siue.edu/ITDA/CUBA_2004/PHOTOS/CubaWebPhotos/Cars8.jpg babies... Ahaha. Meh, I don't think a Coco taxi would do the job. Well, it'd probably be just as good as the bike.
I honestly have no idea what I'd pick for a survival vehicle. If I could do something about the windows, and take out some seats in back, I'd use a school bus. But that makes a ton of noise, and it needs gas, so that isn't the best. It could carry a ton of supplies though.

[Slayer]

That's why I would take a 4 cylinder pickup truck, fuel is going to be not only harder to come by, but also dangerous to get.

Zombies will be roaming the land, so it's potentially dangerous. Harder to come by because sometimes the pumps will be dry, at other times you may have to manually extract it from the tanks because lack of electricity, this takes longer to do than pumping it.

In an outbreak I strongly recommend balancing utility with efficiency, try something capable of taking a load, but with better fuel economy. Like a 4 cylinder SUV rather than a excursion, or something other than the biggest truck avaliable.

I would feel safer in an outbreak with a finite supply of fuel, with something that will make the fuel last longer. I also recommend in an outbreak bringing extra fuel for emergencies with your vehicle, and storing fuel at your safe house.

[Dave Of The Dead]

Also bring a short garden hose so you can siphon other cars' gas tanks.

[JakAttak]

A Prius! escape from Z's and make nice with the environment.

[Behemoth]

Ok, i know most of you hate motorcycles, but i feel they would have certain advantages in an outbreak. Well anyhow, here's what i'll be riding:)
http://images.streetfire.net/photos/0001/03/69/1003096.jpg

[Trumble0]

I definitely believe motorcycles have some advantage and usefulness in crisis situations, being able to move through obstructed roadways much faster, less gas consumed, quicker response in avoiding things that wander or fall onto the road. I would also suggest a sidecar to help stabilze the cycle even more... this is what i want to get my hands on for the Zombie-pocalypse :evil:

http://www.whitestar-sa.com/Ural-jump.jpg

[mattdettorre123]

Agreed, they are small, fast, maneuverable and use very little gas. although they offer no protection from attackers or weather. I would ride one in the ZPAW.

WTF is that first bike? its god awful

[Dave Of The Dead]

Seriously, it looks like one of those "smart cars" with two wheels.

I wouldn't drive a bike unless I had to. I'm too used to driving cars.

[vlad tech]

ok lets see your driving along on your bike going through a tight corner out of no where a zombie trys to grab u knocking you off your bike hurting u and giving the zombies there chance. I'd say the risk out-way the bennifets big time.

also the advantage of it being small wont do much but if youre short on vehicles use it. heres my schematic for a path t=trucks c=cars b=bikes {optional} these will protect your bikes :mrgreen: dots are just empty areas

...............T
c..c\b..c\b...T
c..c\b..c\b.....T
c..c\b..c\b...T
...............T

[Dave Of The Dead]

You planning on creating an anti zed army Vlad, or just making all those cars and trucks remote controlled?

[bandits1]

Motorcycles will come in handy. Good gas-milage, manuverable, quick.

..but they're much better suited for driving away from zombies and not toward them...lest you get knocked on your ass and eaten.

[Behemoth]

WTF is that first bike? its god awful
It's a confederate wraith. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! It's has the right look for a zombie outbreak.

..but they're much better suited for driving away from zombies and not toward them
Yep. But that's what i'll be doing no matter what vehicle i'm using.

Back to motorcycles, here's the future.
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2008/hydrogen-fuel-cell-motorbike-p1.php

[Dave Of The Dead]

Back to motorcycles, here's the future.
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2008/hydrogen-fuel-cell-motorbike-p1.php

You might as well get a bicycle and be healthy while riding...

[Behemoth]

You might as well get a bicycle and be healthy while riding...
You can pedal at 50mph? Wow, hold this lump of kryptonite whilst i inflate the tyres.:loon:

[Dave Of The Dead]

You can pedal at 50mph? Wow, hold this lump of kryptonite whilst i inflate the tyres.:loon:

I can't. Allergic.

I didn't watch enough of the video to hear that it goes 50mpg. So sue me.

[Faran Brigo]

*sues Dave of the Dead*

Gallon? what the hell...

Oh by the by, anyone ever thought what an IFV designed for ZPAW would be like?

[bandits1]

Oh by the by, anyone ever thought what an IFV designed for ZPAW would be like?
I'd imagine it might be built like the tanks in opening sequence of the anime "Appleseed". Quick, fast, mobile, lightly armored, and with a computer-guided gatling gun as it's primary weapon instead of a cannon or chain gun.


...for those of you who've never seen "Appleseed", watch this clip of the tank I'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRrOfBgWpjU
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1174/appleseed200407nz9.jpg

[mattifikation]

Gahh... I used to own Appleseed. Somehow, I completely lost my copy.

And there's a sequel out also. I need to watch the original first.. :-(

[JakAttak]

what about tanks I want a tank.:):lol:

[Behemoth]

what about tanks I want a tank.:):lol:

I saw one of these on the road today, could be good, it was going about 50mph.
http://www.clash-of-steel.co.uk/gallery/pages/full/QYfox-front.jpg

[weresquirrel]

Hey, this is my first forum so I apologize for any mess ups. Everyone had some good ideas for vehicles. Even though I would want to be protected by inches of armor and heavy weaponry this types of vehicles are not practical in a zompocalypse. Some people put different types of bikes, these are good, but the gas powered one is not. Because like all other vehicles you need fuel and during a zompocalypse there wont be any. I feel the best vehicle would be a electric powered bike. One where you could pedal and that would spin a small turbine that would charge a battery and when it is full you can switch on the motor to drive. When the battery dies you simply go back to pedaling to recharge the battery. This would allow for a quiet, renewable, and an easily movable vehicle.

[JakAttak]

Hey, this is my first forum so I apologize for any mess ups. Everyone had some good ideas for vehicles. Even though I would want to be protected by inches of armor and heavy weaponry this types of vehicles are not practical in a zompocalypse. Some people put different types of bikes, these are good, but the gas powered one is not. Because like all other vehicles you need fuel and during a zompocalypse there wont be any. I feel the best vehicle would be a electric powered bike. One where you could pedal and that would spin a small turbine that would charge a battery and when it is full you can switch on the motor to drive. When the battery dies you simply go back to pedaling to recharge the battery. This would allow for a quiet, renewable, and an easily movable vehicle.

find a bike like that


as for that tank yes, very yes. you have made me the happiest girl at the dance.

[weresquirrel]

True the bike is not that common, but they do exist and with the cost of fuel and environmental issues spurring new solutions to the problems you will see things like this kind of bike becoming more common and cheap. This is also a hypothetical question where almost anything goes, for example, where would you get a tank? Even if you could, do you know how to drive one? If you know enough about electronic engineering you maybe able to jimmy rig up something similar.

[secretcog]

Wouldn't a simple humvee be just fine? You could convert the engine to save on fuel consumption.