Brbara's Zombie Chronicles

[DocZomby]

Did anyone else buy this? My comic guy showed it to me and I purchased it aginst my better judgement. This thing contains everything that is wrong with most zombie comics. They take the hairstyle of '68 Barb and put it on the '90 barb with attitude and then give her pamela anderson breasts that have nipples which appear as though they could cut glass. Then they feature this huge amount of gore art with no tension or story progression, no depth to characters to speak of, and the internal dialouge of our heroine is as lame as it comes.

So if you see thi one, pass it up. It makes Zombie 3 look like a good use of time.

Oy!

[hardcoreone2]

I'm glad you posted this as I was thinking of picking it up. Thanks.

[R.E. Freak]

It makes Zombie 3 look like a good use of time.

Christ, is that even possible?

[EvilsNewName]

I was going to start a thread about this but since this ones up i'll just add on...............

I really liked the comics so far ( I have issue 1 and 2 ) , it pics up where notld leaves of. It has a slight twist as to where and how the zombie plauge got started , just like they hinted on in notld. How can there be anything wrong with how barbra looks ??? Its cold out and shes wearin a tank top.......... nothin wrong with a little perkyness in a comic :clap: I recomend it , its much much much better than toe tags. :evil:

[Ravenheart]

I've been getting this and enjoying it so far.

[Bob]

How is the artwork- zombiewise?

I've been working on my own comics series. I am handicapped in this regard as I can't draw to save my life, so what I've been doing is scanning comics I own, editing them using photoshop, and using the images with my own stories. Obviously I can never sell my work, but I'm just doing it for fun.

Is it worth picking up for the artwork?

[EvilsNewName]

The art work is pretty good considering how some of the zombie comics have been lately. The zombies are pretty much the stage 3 kind and the gore is there in detail. :evil: I cant wait for #3 to come out.

[warior 13]

I've never even seen a store that sells comics in years litteraly.

[SPOOKER]

I downloaded this comic :P, The artwork immediately turned me off. The characters are to "superhero" like for me.

[EvilsNewName]

I downloaded this comic :P, The artwork immediately turned me off. The characters are to "superhero" like for me.

I actually liked the artwork , but to each his own , and as far as being "superhero" I really dont think a bunch of people with guns are superheros. If so then damn near everyone thats been fighting zombies in the movies is a superhero. :loon:

[Ravenheart]

I like the artwork too.Especially for the zombies.They look great in the book.

[smokindevil]

First off, a big hello to all the "Zombie Freakz" here at ATZ!!

Just wanted to stop by and thank all the folks in this thread for the support and good words on Barbara's Zombie Chronicles from Dead Dog.

I pencil NOTLDBZC for Dead Dog and picked up the writing chores as of page 15 in issue #1. It was originally to be scripted by inker Joel Moen, but he passed it on to me as I'm more of a horror zealot and he leans toward super heroes and Star Trek.

Wanted to address "Doc Zombie's" review at top: Of all the reviews I've read, Doc's is one of 2 negatives. Seriously. I've seen literally hundreds of message board posts and actual site reviews with positive reports and the book is selling out everywhere. We printed 10,000 copies of number 1, and they are all gone. We (the publishers) have only a few copies left ourselves, for promotion at comic cons. So Doc, sorry ya didn't dig it. Maybe next time, brother. I say check out issues 2 and 3. You'll never guess the cliff hanger ending that will lead to the next 3 issue mini series arc.

As far as our take on Barb, the 2 bad reviews I've read both center on Barb's hair, boobs and nipples. C'mon guys, whattya got against boobs? Boobs have nipples. I, as a guy, like boobs and nipples actually better than I like zombie flicks. Call me crazy. Another thing I'd like to adress is Barb's dialogue. The book features her actual spoken dialogue and excerpts from pages she's written in her journal (Thus, zombie chronicles). Her spoken stuff is tough and cliche' edgy. She's putting up a tough front for her people. She's had to become rock hard in the years following the rise of the dead and to get men to follow her orders and suggestions, she has to be tough to compete. Gone is the shock induced, wide eyed sheep from the film. What we have now is a hard core survivor who will do anything to keep herself and her own from becoming zombie lunch.

In closing, I'd like to invite everybody over to the Dead Dog Forums at deaddogent.com. I post there regularly and you can check out upcoming art and teasers from our forthcoming comics like "The Howling, Curse of the Blood Clan" and "Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Dead Skin Mask". Join up, post away and let us know what you think of NOTLDBZC Issue #3. The ending is a doozy and I think yer gonna like it.

You come too, Doc Zombie, ya little hater, you. I think even you will find somethin' you'll love....

Smokinest of all the Devilz, Mark Kidwell, Dead Dog Comics

[EvilsNewName]

Great job smokindevil , If you look over the posts for this I'm a supporter all the way. Loved the book and loved the nips :rock: :evil: :rock:

[smokindevil]

Thanx again EVILS, ya don't know how much we appreciate our fanz and their support! Getting close to horror folks at cons and on the net helps us to provide more of what you guys wanna see in our books.

Check out The Howling; Curse of the Blood Clan in March '05! I'm currently pencilling the second issue and it's Bottin style werewolves aplenty!

Come on over to the forums at deaddogent.com and let us know what you thought of NOTLD issue #3!

Smokin'

[EvilsNewName]

Thanx again EVILS, ya don't know how much we appreciate our fanz and their support! Getting close to horror folks at cons and on the net helps us to provide more of what you guys wanna see in our books.

Check out The Howling; Curse of the Blood Clan in March '05! I'm currently pencilling the second issue and it's Bottin style werewolves aplenty!

Come on over to the forums at deaddogent.com and let us know what you thought of NOTLD issue #3!

Smokin'

No prob smokin' , any chance we will see some kind of wallpaper or screensaver from notldbzc. Thats somethin I'm sure we would all like to get on our comps. :pray: :pray: :pray:

[Gravemaster]

Have any UK people found this over here in Blighty. I just can't get hold of it...

Saying that are there many UK people here at ATZ?

C

[SPOOKER]

I actually liked the artwork , but to each his own , and as far as being "superhero" I really dont think a bunch of people with guns are superheros. If so then damn near everyone thats been fighting zombies in the movies is a superhero. :loon:



Yes, I get what you mean...But For me, I like a unique style. The artwork here just seemed like it's been done a thousand times over, In a thousand different story's.

[EvilsNewName]

Yes, I get what you mean...But For me, I like a unique style. The artwork here just seemed like it's been done a thousand times over, In a thousand different story's.

Ya , but I liked it :lol: :clap: :lol:

[DocZomby]

No offense taken. I just don't see anything inovative being done with the material. Regarding the nipple situation, pointing out that breasts have nipples is hardly rationale for the diamond tipped hooters you placed on your lead character. Zombie fiction is supposed to be gritty, its hard to get past the betty crocker hairstye. I'll take another look at it and see if I see anything that makes me think getting another issue would be worth my while. If I don't I'm sure you will anxiously be awaiting my further nit picking of your hard work. That having been said, congratulations on the kick ass sales!

[awfulman]

I can see Doc's point in regards to the anatomy.

The illustrator does have a great deal of talent, and I am grateful for his work, but I do find the art a bit too stereotypically Heavy Metal for my liking. Eventhough I disagree with the artist's stylistic choice, I respect his work and talent. I am forgiving when it comes to illustration styles I don't appreciate; several issues of Deadworld featured artists who didn't have a firm grasp on human anatomy, but I loved them anyways.

I've been collecting this series, and find the story interesting. I actually started a thread (http://www.allthingszombie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1272) on this a while back and recommended it you all. I urge those of you who can't appreciate the artistic style to look past it, there's some interesting things going on!

I find this storyline more interesting than ToeTags. (ducking bricks and eggs)

[EvilsNewName]

I find this storyline more interesting than ToeTags. (ducking bricks and eggs)

I find looking at grass grow more interesting than toe tags :puke: :puke: :puke:

[DocZomby]

I guess part of what i don't care for is the piggybacking onto NOTLD. without which, issue one would have been 6 pages shorter. I can't help but wonder if the sales would be what they are were it not for the tie in with the original movie. It just seems like the writing is based off of the colonial marines from Aliens.

[EvilsNewName]

I guess part of what i don't care for is the piggybacking onto NOTLD. without which, issue one would have been 6 pages shorter. I can't help but wonder if the sales would be what they are were it not for the tie in with the original movie. It just seems like the writing is based off of the colonial marines from Aliens.

Well like always they had to do some story set up which did piggyback from notld but I still liked it :clap:

It wouldnt really be "barbaras zombie chronicles , night of the living dead" without notld :doh:

[smokindevil]

Hey DZ,

You can certainly turn a phrase, brother. I am still laughing at "Diamond Tipped Hooters".

As far as the decision to use the NOTLD name and concept and carry it forward, I came on board the project after those decisions were made. Utilizing the material laid out in NOTLD however, we thought it would be cool to see where Barbara would end up. Would she just end up as a face in the crowd, protected by someone else ala the film, or would she, could she "Become" something new? Something tougher and more self reliant? If you're gonna continue telling this story using Barbara, something had to change.

NOTLDBZC #3 is now out in stores. I've already gotten some freaked out response to the series ending. Anybody read it? If so, lemme know what you think! You especially, Doc. I love these posts, keep 'em comin'!

[EvilsNewName]

Hey DZ,

You can certainly turn a phrase, brother. I am still laughing at "Diamond Tipped Hooters".

As far as the decision to use the NOTLD name and concept and carry it forward, I came on board the project after those decisions were made. Utilizing the material laid out in NOTLD however, we thought it would be cool to see where Barbara would end up. Would she just end up as a face in the crowd, protected by someone else ala the film, or would she, could she "Become" something new? Something tougher and more self reliant? If you're gonna continue telling this story using Barbara, something had to change.

NOTLDBZC #3 is now out in stores. I've already gotten some freaked out response to the series ending. Anybody read it? If so, lemme know what you think! You especially, Doc. I love these posts, keep 'em comin'!
Still havent found #3 yet , this sucks ............... :cry:

[smokindevil]

Here's some food for thought...

As far as using the original NOTLD film for inspiration and a jump-off point...


What if Toby Hooper had never seen Pshyco, followed up with some research into the serial killer Norman Bates was based on (Ed Gein) and done his own twist on the facts/legend to create Leatherface and the chainsaw family?

What if George Romero had never read Richard Matheson's "I Am Legend" and struck on the original idea for NOTLD?

What if there had never been a Friday the 13th Part 2? There'd be no Jason (all grown up and wearin' his hockey mask) as the killer. It would always be Pamela.

What if Ripley of Alien fame had remained "just" a pilot and not agreed to accompany those marines in Aliens? She seemed to change and adapt to her new situation pretty well. Went back into a soon to self destruct mining colony on a doomed planet just to save one little girl. Learned to use weaponry she'd never have touched otherwise and stood up to military and corporate honchos to do whatever she wanted. Even trusted an android after what happened with "Ash" in Alien.

Ah, sequels, remakes, re-imaginings...damned if ya do...

[DocZomby]

It just doesn't seem like you used NOTLD as a jump off point. You just started a story and said that the main character IS barbara from Night. The paralell you draw between barb & ripley doesnt work. What made Aliens so cool was to actually see the transition Ripley made from the beginning of the movie to the end. What you guys did was just show how she made it through the hour or so after she left the farmhouse and then cut to her as a totally different person. Now if you had started the story with that departure and made the whole storyline about her next few weeks with the creepy sheriff and how the Mick came about. Now that would be an interesting storyline that would actually be a continuation of NOTLD. It just seems to me you guys co opted the Romero storyline to tell a story of your own that doesn't have any real relation to the NOTLD Barbara character other than your declaration that that is who she is.

[smokindevil]

Hey Doc,

You wanna be my arch enemy? Nothing mean in it, just kinda want an "arch enemy".

Anyway, I agree with ya on one point. If it had been my decision, I woulda picked up right where the flick left off. I too think it would be interesting to show the whole "dead apocalypse" thing growing from the start. Even in a rural Pennsylvania area, it woulda been cool. I'd even have liked to show Barbara getting back to Pittsburgh, to discover her mother's fate in all of the cannibalistic mess. Keep in mind, the script was started by someone else. He had a direction in mind, wanted the story to pick up about ten years or so after the original NOTLD. So, off we went.

I still like the Ripley/Barb connection. I think you said it yourself when you said that there was a transition of the character to someone else, someone different by the end of the film. You can see the same change in Barbara in issue #1 when she's pulled out of the house in her nightmare. Her memories show that she managed to snap outta the shock she experienced throughout the film and tap into her primal urge toward self preservation. That happened immediately, as soon as the situation dictated it. As time went by, she got even tougher, callous, superficial, even standoffish, unwilling to forge too close a bond with her fellows for fear of losing them.

So there ya go. Sorry if any of this is horribly mis-spelled or garbled. I've been writing scripts all night and can barely type.

Until we meet again, my arch foe!
(Cheezy Super Hero dialogue)
Smokin'D

[DocZomby]

Very clever Mr. Smokin'. An arch nemesis you want? An arch nemesis you shall have. Mwah-ha-ha! :evil:

I see where you are coming from with the survival instinct kicking in. My point before was more focused on the transition being a process, not an event. The Riply transition too at least half of the movie. In your comic it took two "flashback" pages. It was a lightswitch off to lightswitch on moment and not a gradual thing done soley to justify the actual story your man wanted to tell. I suppose you could make an argument that the way you did it was the only way to do it, but I would disagree.

It's a drag that you and your arch nemesis seem to be in agreement on that point :cry:.

Once this storyline is over, do you see any chance of backtracking and doing a series on that Post farmhouse Pre Mick era? I'd give that a shot. The great sales numbers would seem to indicate that there is a ravenous market out there for this type of material. I just want the bar set higher. :)

[smokindevil]

SO, we meet again, old nemesis! BIFF! POW!

Hey Doc,

Yeah, Barb "hero'd" up pretty quick. In the flashback, she comes outta her stupor when she sees she's about to become "Dinner". Maybe what doesn't come across immediately is that she awakens from her dream about ten years after the escape from the farmhouse. That was the original writer's intent, anyway. There's a solid decade of so of Barb changing that is not dealt with in the book.

As far as goin' back to the farmhouse days to show the adventures between then and the first series, Hell yeah! I'd love to do some of that story. Maybe we'll get the opportunity to fill in those gaps.

Meanwhile, there is a one-shot NOTLD book, currently in the pencilling stage, that deals with the undead epidemic during the original (1968) time period. I wrote the script start to finish on this one. It's kinda secret right now, but it deals with ghouls rising in another part of the world, in a setting already pretty horrible in it's own right. (Hint, Hint 1968, somewhere in the world where something bad is happening...) There's a direct link to Barbara in the story, though she doesn't appear in it herself. More on that book soon.

Anyway, good to hear from ya again, keep them posts a'comin!

[DocZomby]

Ahh, Mr Devil, you have a nasty habit of surviving. :evil:

Let's see... '68... nasty things happening... oooo I know! My dad was having to change copious amounts of cloth diapers! That must be where your zombie one shot will be! Cool!

I think Southeast Asia would work better though don't you? Now that would be a story with some new potential. Remember the Heavy Metal movie scene in the bomber? Maybe an atmosphere like that. :mrgreen:

[smokindevil]

Man, cloth diapers...If I'da been yer dad, I'da just tied a hefty bag to yer ass and let you "extrude" 'till ya couldn't drag that bad boy around any more.

As for Southeast Asia, you're very clever, arch fiend...

[DocZomby]

Interestingly enough, it was my sister who got the cloth diapers. What I got was a burlap sack. Oh how I used to dream of having a hefty bag tied to my ass. That would have been luxury.

Do you have a tentative date on the One shot or is that still in the "no clue" stage.

[smokindevil]

No date yet. It's being drawn by a guy who has a harsh day gig, so whenever he finishes the art, the book will start being colored and lettered.

That "dreamin' of a Hefty bag" bit is damn funny. Made me laugh out loud. I got a whole mental picture of a family standin' around with their kids, posin' for Christmas photos with those lumpy bags draggin' behind 'em.

LOL

[DocZomby]

Ah, the fond memories of childhood... :loon:

Can you say who the artist is? Anyone we may have heard of?

[TheBatman]

I picked up issue 1 last week, and I liked it. I have one complaint: why the 4.95 price tag? A bit much yes? Especially for one without a job. ( I'm 15, can't get one.) Otherwise, keep up the good work!

[EvilsNewName]

I picked up issue 1 last week, and I liked it. I have one complaint: why the 4.95 price tag? A bit much yes? Especially for one without a job. ( I'm 15, can't get one.)
Why not 4.95 ? They have bills to pay and they have to make money too. So is it a bit much .......... no. And why cant you have a job , I had one at 15 ??? I had to stay under a certain amount of hours ( I think it was 20 per week ) but I still had one. Dont be lazy. :roll:

[TheBatman]

I'm not lazy...nobody will hire me. Also, my mom won't let me try and get one until summer, when school's out.

Sorry, I guess I'm just used to paying 2.50 for my Batman comics.

[EvilsNewName]

I'm not lazy...nobody will hire me. Also, my mom won't let me try and get one until summer, when school's out. Sorry, I guess I'm just used to paying 2.50 for my Batman comics.
Quit boo hooin and go get a job :doh:



:lol: :lol: :lol:

[TheBatman]

I'm trying, dammit! :x I've been trying for months. :x :x :x

[EvilsNewName]

I hear ya , no worries eventually you will find one. :)

[DocZomby]

Keep it on topic. PM each other with the side comments. :mrgreen:

[EvilsNewName]

Keep it on topic. PM each other with the side comments. :mrgreen:
Ya I hear ya but it was kinda on topic............the price of said comic book and lack of $ to buy it ......... but I see what your sayin :scare: