Cannibal Holocaust (2008)

[The Blind Dead]

Yup...a remake. The rights to the original shocker, Cannibal Holocaust, have been secured by Relevant Entertainment (http://www.relevantent.com/). The film was officially announced this month and Ruggero Deodato is apparently attached as director though I don't see that remaining that way.

A friend over at Imagination Worldwide mentioned to me that he'd recently had dinner with a producer...for Cannibal Holocaust 2! Obviously that seems to still be in motion and hopefully Deodato is attached to that as well.

So...what do you feel about a CH remake? Please spare us the whining about remakes in general though. What would you like to see in this remake? What would you like to see changed?

[Pain]

I'm not totally sure how objective I can be about this. I have been hoping for a revival of the Cannibal sub-genre, so whether this will spark one of I have no idea.

I suppose what I would like to see is a just a return to the style and ferocity of the original, sure they can throw in a few modern twists and turns as will no doubt happen. It will depend a lot on when they set the remake too, as with GPS and what have you it won't be as easy for them to go missing if they set it in present times.

Maybe some more back story on the professor and the missing documentarians would be nice.

As long as it is a serious movie, with no crappy attempts at adding any levity to the situation, and they don't try and water the subject matter down I'll be interested to see how it turns out.

[Chuck Norris]

I guess the only question I have is in regards to how much sex and violence they can fit into the remake cause if I recall there was tons of rape scenes and over the top gore. It just seems like 20 years age directors had so much freedom and today....lets just say I'll be surprised if a new version has 1/2 the pulp the original had. Don't get me wrong I would love a cannibal revival but if it's going to be watered down then there's no point. The Cannibal movies (holocaust, Ferox etc) are so gory and (could be perceived as) extremely racist what with all the savagery. Personally, the racial elements (if anything) suggest western man is the real savage but you have to be able to get over the blatant imagery (like tribal people running around helpless wearing loin cloths). It's just to subversive for contemporary culture. I just don't see how these types of themes can be re explored. Unless they scrap those things all together and make a suspense thriller. In which case I'll stab myself in the eye with a table leg:cry: :axe: .

[evilzombie20]

I would really like for them to focus on more of the documentary footage. That was the most interesting part of the entire movie.

[Pain]

I would really like for them to focus on more of the documentary footage. That was the most interesting part of the entire movie.

That's a bit like saying to a Day of the Dead fan the only interesting thing about that movie was Bub.

There is far more going on in Cannibal Holocaust than it is given credit for. Unfortunately the majority of viewers get sidetracked by the more visceral content than anything else.

As for the remake? Only time will tell how it will pan out. I'm not going to get up in arms about it though, even if the original is one of my favourite films. There's already too much whining and bleating about this remake on other forums. Shouting and screaming about a remake doesn't make you any more of a fan of the original.

[Chuck Norris]

Pain I agree 100% but a remakes immediately garners a lot of hype from the original. You have to expect added scrutiny when you borrow the title(and success) of a Cult Classic.

[chewy]

More "cannibal", less "holocaust". I would like to see a bloodbath gorefest of biblical proportions.

[MadSlasher]

Dudes, they can't make a movie like CH today because all the PC pussies will scream "Racist!" and there's no way it would get a fair shake from the secretive scumbags and religious nuts who run the ratings system. I don't see how they can make it anywhere near as "good" as the original in this F-ed up, upside-down PC world we're living in. But, we'll see...

[The Blind Dead]

Dudes, they can't make a movie like CH today because all the PC pussies will scream "Racist!" and there's no way it would get a fair shake from the secretive scumbags and religious nuts who run the ratings system. I don't see how they can make it anywhere near as "good" as the original in this F-ed up, upside-down PC world we're living in. But, we'll see...
Uh...yeah. All militancy aside the chances of this remake seeing theaters and the MPAA ratings board is slim so I don't doubt it'll get made. The real question is what will and won't they bring over from the original.

[Chuck Norris]

They should definatly keep the rape scenes cuz lets face it people don't get raped enough in movies these days.JK

[skelington]

All I want is for them to not hold back. With the special effects we have now I want to see the heart still beating when they pull it out. Shock me please make it hard and uncompromising. Don't give it that Hollywood polish. Above all I hope they don't do something silly like add a supernatural element to it.

[devourthesun]

They should definatly keep the rape scenes cuz lets face it people don't get raped enough in movies these days.JK

Thats classic!

Ugh. I'm not going to ask why, Because i already know the answer to that. I'm not going to whine and cry. I don't really see the NEED for a remake of CH, considering I haven't a clue how its going to be more....I hate to use the term "Extreme" than the original is. This just has train wreck printed all over it if you as me.

Although it would be interesting to see the documentary film makers fleshed out a bit more, and the professor character fleshed out more.

But I still think this is a train wreck waiting to happen, Deodato being involved or not.

[skinhead81]

they should let the toetag guys make it .......... ideas???

[The Blind Dead]

I agree the TTP team would be great on FX but, as of yet, they haven't proven themselves (to me anyhow) capable of directing a feature length film. Now, perhaps after seeing Fred's Redsin Tower I may change my mind but as of now I wouldn't think it'd be wise to hand over a project like this to "untested" indie filmmakers.

[The_Lord_Humungus]

Will they butcher a turtle for this film? As I have previously stated, remakes leave me feeling a bit empty because a moment in time can never truly be recaptured.

[The Blind Dead]

I think it goes without saying that real animals won't be killed for this film.

[Chuck Norris]

Yeah no sea turtle carnage.

[Pain]

Oh my god I edited this post so much....

The next mention of animal cruelty gets themselves banned. That's a promise not a threat.

[The Blind Dead]

Blah blah blah I think anima---uh...did you say ban?

*slowly backs away from thread*

:lol:

[Pain]

Haha only joking, it's just I remember an old thread about CH that descended into chaos because of the subject. I think it is fairly safe to say that there won't be any in the remake though.

[Chuck Norris]

I think it is fairly safe to say that there won't be any in the remake though.

With the level of realism you could attain with today's special effects there would be no need to. Of course the same could be said for the original depending on your opinion/beliefs............yeah new subject... this movie is way to subversive for 2007.

[The Blind Dead]

With the level of realism you could attain with today's special effects there would be no need to. Of course the same could be said for the original depending on your opinion/beliefs............yeah new subject... this movie is way to subversive for 2007.
Subversive? Hardly. Disturbing? Certainly. I think it can be done so long as the producers take the film seriously. With Deodato attached I'd say they are. Chances are he'll change things up in order to correct some of the things he disliked about the original. Today they're still pulling off rape and hardcore gore in horror so a CH remake that can hold its own is a major possibility.

[Chuck Norris]

Subversive? Hardly.

I don't want to debate semantics with you but when you use 'subversive' to describe 'art' it could mean 'disturbing, offensive etc.' Like I said I'm not trying to be a dick or anything.

I do think they could keep a lot of the original story intact but lets face it directors in the 70's/early80's had a way easier time with censorship. I know Deodato was temporarily confined over 'CH' but that was because the gore was too realistic. They thought Ruggero killed all his actors Which is kinda silly. The whole 'documentary footage' idea really scared the crap out of people too.

Plus lets face it sure they show rape scenes now a days but they aren't half as brutal plus oh yeah a human fetus being destroyed, and a penis being torn off. It's safe to say they'll have to tone down the content in order to get this puppy on the silver screen.

I also read that the main producer of this film is Steve Whitney. His production company was responsible for the Amittyville Horror remake.

[The Blind Dead]

I don't want to debate semantics with you but when you use 'subversive' to describe 'art' it could mean 'disturbing, offensive etc.' Like I said I'm not trying to be a dick or anything

When people describe cinema as "subversive" they mean films that are created to challenge the social order and step on the toes of the ruling elite in the film industry, government or religious community. Disturbing and offensive tend to go hand in hand with subversive cinema but it isn't always intentional. Transgressive cinema on the other hand is created purposely to shock, disgust and disturb. CH, in my opinion isn't subversive or transgressive but exploitative though it does lean more toward transgressive.

According to Deodato there was no "message" in the film and that therefore rules out CH as being subversive.

[Chuck Norris]

You obviously care a lot about the directors work and have a firm grasp on his beliefs. I saw CH and thought he was trying to make social commentary. That's why I called it subversive. In fact it was more of a 'benefit of the doubt'. Now that I know the Director was just shocking with no further meaning......well I guess knowing that I would have to say I think a lot less of his Movie. Perhaps Deodato said there was no 'meaning' to put and end to boring discussions like this one(JK).

[Pain]

Lovely jubbly and all that, but let's keep it to the proposed remake. We could all talk for days about the original movie, however, that is not the purpose of this thread.

Will the remake add anything to the original? Or will it just coast along on its reputation?

[livingdeadkev]

it's a shame the animal and rape scenes will be axed or toned down. to me, scenes like these really seem to give the atmosphere of the film. i'd like to see more about the tribes and filmmakers though.

[Pain]

it's a shame the animal and rape scenes will be axed or toned down.
This is just presumed right now, although I expect you are right.

i'd like to see more about the tribes and filmmakers though.
Me too:)

[Hicksy]

After some quick research I can say I'd really like to see both Orininal and Remake.

[jackskellington]

Just ran across this over at BD...

Bloody-Disgusting has learned exclusively today that Christine Conradt (Hotel California) has been tapped to write the script for Cannibal Holocaust, Ruggero Deodato's own companion piece to his groundbreaking film that was banned in numerous countries. The new film is about Professor Harold Moore, a New York anthropologist traveling to the wild, inhospitable jungles of South America to find out what happened to a documentary film crew shooting a film about cannibal tribes.

[Grinder]

I wonder. Not to go too much into remakes but in fact I liked the 2004 version of "Dawn of the Dead" which is just plainly and simply a different movie altogether than the original. Fair enough. So I'd like to be able to expect the same from this. You're probably not going to have that kind of raw feel that the original had, the turtle scene and the punishment of the woman taken in adultery and all that. Fair enough, and why just see what you've already seen filmed a little differently?

Remakes I've enjoyed include "Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978) "Dawn of the Dead" (2004) "Inherit the Wind" (don't remember, but the version with George C. Scott) "House on Haunted Hill". In some of these things were more or less just redone with modern actors and with better film quality. I don't mind the idea of that.

However I like the idea of doing something that is a twist on the previous film version (like Invasion of the Body Snatchers 1978) where the theme somehow works differently. One thing that could definitely be done better would be to make the film crew more likeable. If Rob Zombie could do it with "The Devil's Rejects" then it could be done for this. That would make the ending more intense.

[zombiekilling101]

I didnt like the original at all. It was just.. dumb. It wasnt that it was too extreme either.. Just didnt like it. So I wont be seeing a remake of this.

[Kemper]

Not into cannibalism

[zombieuprising]

havent seen it.
Reviews?

[zombiekilling101]

havent seen it.
Reviews?

the lowdown is a doco team hangs with this group of cannibals. and they are killed. they show real animals getting killed and its supposed to be real people.. taht they found the filmakers cameras and junk.

I didnt like it as i said.:)

[lavel]

Dudes, they can't make a movie like CH today because all the PC pussies will scream "Racist!" and there's no way it would get a fair shake from the secretive scumbags and religious nuts who run the ratings system. I don't see how they can make it anywhere near as "good" as the original in this F-ed up, upside-down PC world we're living in. But, we'll see...

What are you talking about? A horror movie is a horror movie. If CH was made back then, and with all the CGI we have today, by golly this movie can be made.:x

[Umbrela]

I think the remake will either:

1) fail to live up to the original
2) Live up to the original and be widespread banned
or 3) fall through and be abandoned during production.

[Season Of The Dead]

I wouldn't be opposed to a remake however it would solely depend on who was attached to the project.
I think that bringing some modern elements into the film may work well but I do not know audience will react. It would be hard to recapture the ferocity of the first film and overall I don't it would be well received amongst younger fans of the horror genre. It seems that unless a movie has a high budget, mainstream pop actors, a load of "jump scares" and tons of CGI people do not care to see it.

[Steve P]

It would be hard to recapture the ferocity of the first film

It would almost certainly be impossible. And given it was that very ferocity that made it iconic in the first place any remake would be wholly pointless.

[ABRNT1]

A remake of this film is pointless. Odds r the cannibalism will be watered down and the darker aspects (rape of the native girl, etc) will be also.

[Pain]

Deodato was going to film Cannibals, which is a sequel of sorts. That has been put on hold though due to producers wanting to cut certain elements from it. Deodato won't film it without these parts though.

Oh, and Cannibal Holocaust is a classic exploitation movie:)

[secretcog]

I can't believe someone actually wants to remake that film.

And YES I'm going to view it asap!

Sick flick, but "if it ain't broken...don't fix it!"

[Pain]

It's not a remake

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