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XposedGuts
11-13-2006, 07:18 PM
With all this zombie survival talk who acually believes a zombie outbreak could happen? Personally I dont believe it for a second, even as much as i love anything to do with zombies.

Dagnammit
11-13-2006, 07:44 PM
No way.

Don't get me wrong - I think there are a lot of possible apocalyptic extinction scenarios that could pop up at any time and destabilise society or even wipe out humankind. But a zombie outbreak isn't one of them.

A dead body no longer has the ability to live. The immeasurably complex chain of chemical reactions that defines life has been broken, and the minute physical structures that support it begin to decay and disintegrate after a very short while - this is why one cannot be revived after flatlinging for about ten minutes.

The odds against a dead human spontaneously returning to life are probably somewhere in the region of many quadrillions-to-one, the combined odds against the person regenerating and then wanting cause harm to others are even higher, and the odds against it happening many times (i.e. a zombie plague) are practically infinite. So in my view, it's not possible.

A human corpse that has been dead for more than a few minutes is a completely inanimate object, and has no more capacity for sustainable life than a lump of coal does.

zombiekilling101
11-13-2006, 08:25 PM
I put a not sure. Because its probably possible that a bio weapon makes people nuts like in the crazies and 28 days later style. but not walking corpses... theres just too many stuff that wouldnt work for it to be possible.

nirvroxx
11-13-2006, 08:44 PM
no way, no how...its just not biologically possible for a corpse to re-animate....

Darkness
11-13-2006, 08:48 PM
"A idea just occurred to me. Walking Dead.....um....no. Walking 'Brain Dead'? Now that's a thought to ponder." :think:

XposedGuts
11-13-2006, 08:59 PM
yea i can see what you guys are saying about "walking braindead" but i ment reanimated zombies...sry i didnt specify at the begining

Darkness
11-13-2006, 09:09 PM
yea i can see what you guys are saying about "walking braindead" but i ment reanimated zombies...sry i didnt specify at the begining

"I know you did. It was just a strange thought that ran through my brain. What if some virus just killed the brain and then took it over. I could see this as being a reason zombies really could exist. If the body itself didn't die, just the brain, they could exist. IMO." ;-)

zombieslayer69
11-13-2006, 09:22 PM
I put not sure cause i agree with everyone on the 28 days later type of zombie thing, that might happen. everyone dieing around me wouldnt freak me out to bad, i think i could easily survive.

UNDEAD FRED
11-13-2006, 09:34 PM
Bunch of party poopers. Dont mess with the fantasy, we know about reality. Its all just fun, everyone gets into zombie movies here on this site. I know people who are into western movies, or the Star War, and Star Trek type of movie, really get into it. I have a friend who dressed up as a Jedi Knight, and wiated in line 16 hours just to get tickets to the 1st show of Star Wars, The Phatom Menece,I brought him a couple of meals, there was over 100 people waiting in line, dressed up, having a good time. Its all good.:) :drinking:

dead and loving it
11-14-2006, 08:50 AM
Dead is dead, and that is that.

Crickler
11-14-2006, 09:04 AM
As much as I'd like to say yes....No.

Crombie
11-14-2006, 09:25 AM
I can very much see a 28DL scenario happening mostly because the government has been known to research aggression in the past, but I could never see a "Romero" style zombie apocalypse happening. So while it is popular to point out that the people in 28DL are NOT zombies I think that is probably the closest the world would get to.

We already have rabies which reacts quite strongly on the most docile of animals, and imagine if that virus somehow mutated to have those same effects in humans? That's scary stuff.

UseYourHeadCutOffTheirs
11-14-2006, 11:28 AM
odds are something like a zombie outbreak would never happen....although i put not sure because like in all the zombie movies we have seen in our lives, the people who dead up say thats not possible always die first when it does happen.

if something like that were to happen, it would be just like in the movies...people wouldnt believe it and would let the flesh eaters survive and then get bitten. in return causing the pandemic to get out of control and everyone would die...


tis a very UNLIKELY thing to happen.....but that doesnt mean that some scientist isnt creating bio warfare bacteria in his lab right now and screwing with things he shouldnt be messing with...:evil: ...creating a virus like the rage virus or something that causes a person to loose all control over their bodies...making them crazed lunatics going around attacking people...:scare:



all in all....i just say that we cant be certain...we dont know, therefore we cant say that something similar to what we see on tv cant ever happen....because it might!


be prepared!!!!! :lol::lol: BAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Boomstick Buddy
11-14-2006, 11:48 AM
I put not sure because, I don’t know the future I mean we evolved from nothing, so I don't believe in zombies but you never know nature just might have a few tricks up it sleeve.

M_Sinistrari
11-14-2006, 03:07 PM
Zombies, no, unless there's some serious paranormal going on.

However, the chance of something wiping out megadeth level of populace, scarily possible and some of the survival things we talk about here would be actually quite useful.

Dagnammit
11-14-2006, 04:47 PM
In addition to what I posted earlier - I agree you guys on the possibility of a 28 Days Later-type scenario. It's extremely unlikely, but not entirely outwith the realms of possibility.

I don't, however, agree with the idea of a virus "controlling" a brain-dead human like a little monster sitting at the controls. :)

I'm no expert, but as far as I know, a virus is a very simple organism (not really a true organism at all, just a self-reproducing chain of RNA protected by a protein shell), and all it does is enter cells and use the host RNA to reproduce, thereby killing the cell. It does this in a completely passive way; and what destroys the host cell is simply a chemical reaction between the RNA of the virus and the RNA of the host. In a sense, it is nothing more than a chemical accident that happens to produce more virii, there is nothing deliberate about it. A virus couldn't control a human mind because it is too simple and has no self-deliberation.

It could, on the other hand, be primed to destroy certain parts of the brain that control our behaviour, leaving only the most primal, feral instincts, and cause a chemical imbalance that specifically aroused the violent, angry instincts. (In a way, that might be even scarier, because that would mean the vicious behaviour was not really directly from the virus, but actually came from deep inside us as humans).

In other words - I think it's prossible to have "walking partially-brain-dead" :)

(note: I'm not a virologist and I don't pretend to know much about the subject, if anyone knows if any of the above is misleading or untrue, speak up!)

chewy
11-14-2006, 06:00 PM
I'm no expert, but as far as I know, a virus is a very simple organism (not really a true organism at all, just a self-reproducing chain of RNA protected by a protein shell), and all it does is enter cells and use the host RNA to reproduce, thereby killing the cell. It does this in a completely passive way; and what destroys the host cell is simply a chemical reaction between the RNA of the virus and the RNA of the host. In a sense, it is nothing more than a chemical accident that happens to produce more virii, there is nothing deliberate about it. A virus couldn't control a human mind because it is too simple and has no self-deliberation.

(note: I'm not a virologist and I don't pretend to know much about the subject, if anyone knows if any of the above is misleading or untrue, speak up!)

That's pretty close to what actually happens. Very good description, Dag. You've spared me from launching into another tirade about virology, neurology and cellular microbiology. Thank you!:)

Dagnammit
11-14-2006, 06:02 PM
That's pretty close to what actually happens. Very good description, Dag. You've spared me from launching into another tirade about virology, neurology and cellular microbiology. Thank you!:)


Yeeha! I can do... like... science n' stuff... :drool: :lol: :drinking:

alone_withmyaxe
11-19-2006, 01:08 PM
I had to put a yes.

There are far to many things out there in this world and possibly in others, that I just don't understand. I have also spent too much of my time devoted and being terrified of these creatures, in equal measure, to allow my mind to completly rule out the dead rising, or something similar.

What about alien parasites, using their human hosts to spread themselves, and take over. Or bio-research in to longevity, having terrible side effects. Or DNA experiments creating monsters that want to destroy us all. Or stem cell research that makes us in to canablistic killers. Or cosmic radiation. Or there really being NO MORE ROOM IN HELL...

I am going to load my gun now, it could happen tomorrow!

Zombie Survivor
11-19-2006, 01:37 PM
What about alien parasites, using their human hosts to spread themselves, and take over. Or bio-research in to longevity, having terrible side effects. Or DNA experiments creating monsters that want to destroy us all. Or stem cell research that makes us in to canablistic killers. Or cosmic radiation. Or there really being NO MORE ROOM IN HELL...!

I think you've played to many games and watched to many (B-)movies pal :loon: No offence though ;-)

alone_withmyaxe
11-19-2006, 02:35 PM
I think you've played to many games and watched to many (B-)movies pal :loon: No offence though ;-)

To be honest, you could well be right:drool:

Delta38
11-19-2006, 06:21 PM
To be honest, I do believe something like a "zombie outbreak" could very well happen.

Perhaps not as we know it, like in the movies. But perhaps like 28 days later?

A virus or something similar where it turns regular humans (or any animal for that matter) into blood thirsty and crazed cannibals?

I believe that may be very plausible.

:)

chewy
11-19-2006, 07:18 PM
A virus or something similar where it turns regular humans (or any animal for that matter) into blood thirsty and crazed cannibals?

Any physical illness that would alter a person's behavior so drastically would also demonstrate a whole host of other symptoms such as severe headaches, blurred vision, photosensitivity, poor balance, decreased strength, impaired gait, vomiting, etc...

Humans are hard-wired against killing and eating other members of our species unless our own survival depends upon it. Some infection would not be able to target the specific areas of the brain that would allow it to override thousands of years of instinct.

alone_withmyaxe
11-20-2006, 04:40 PM
Any physical illness that would alter a person's behavior so drastically would also demonstrate a whole host of other symptoms such as severe headaches, blurred vision, photosensitivity, poor balance, decreased strength, impaired gait, vomiting, etc...

Humans are hard-wired against killing and eating other members of our species unless our own survival depends upon it. Some infection would not be able to target the specific areas of the brain that would allow it to override thousands of years of instinct.

Thoose symptoms sound quite zombiesque already!

What about alien infections, or parasites?

UNDEAD FRED
11-20-2006, 06:04 PM
You never know, The cold war is over, but you cant tell me that there wasnt all kinds of top secret medical, biological. and simular experiments conducted by all the super powers, even private companies that where probilly funded by the US goverment. Something like in the lines of Return of the living dead. Ita true that the Army known to have screwed up occasionaly, especially back in the 1960s, and 1970s. So if you see some OD green containers in the basement at where you work, Dont mess with them, unless you want a zombie outbreak to occure:evil: :evil: :loon:

Darkness
11-20-2006, 06:08 PM
"Don't forget about Sambob's theory about nanobots, created to heal and getting out of hand." ;-)

chewy
11-20-2006, 09:26 PM
Thoose symptoms sound quite zombiesque already!

Those symptoms I listed are pretty much what you see when someone has meningitis, which is an infection of the central nervous system.

As far as the theories of alien infectious organisms, I'll have to disagree with that, too. The human brain is an incredibly complicated organ. You would have to have an infectious organism that would be both sentient and complex enough to control a human brain for it to be able to alter a human's behavior, let alone make the body function in the absence of basic cell metabolism.

mrudge
11-20-2006, 09:34 PM
I can very much see a 28DL scenario happening

That's the only thing I can see, and there are LOADS of nose-in-the-air folk who say that's not a zombie movie anyway.

We get into what happens in the first 36 hours of a zombie outbreak in our movie (due out soon) but that's for another forum entirely!

MR
www.operationdead1movie.com

draken108
11-21-2006, 12:08 PM
I hope I hope I hope

RyanCardillo
11-21-2006, 01:58 PM
I had to put a yes.

There are far to many things out there in this world and possibly in others, that I just don't understand. I have also spent too much of my time devoted and being terrified of these creatures, in equal measure, to allow my mind to completly rule out the dead rising, or something similar.

What about alien parasites, using their human hosts to spread themselves, and take over. Or bio-research in to longevity, having terrible side effects. Or DNA experiments creating monsters that want to destroy us all. Or stem cell research that makes us in to canablistic killers. Or cosmic radiation. Or there really being NO MORE ROOM IN HELL...

I am going to load my gun now, it could happen tomorrow!





I agree.....

RyanCardillo
11-21-2006, 02:02 PM
Have any of you played Resident Evil? The T-virus makes zombies and mutates them. And there are not only zombies but mutated monsters as well.. It's beleveable....

what do you guys/girls think?




:guns: :zom2:

ZombieJohn
11-24-2006, 06:05 PM
Chances are slim to none. Probably less! Even if there is always that little chance. Hey with everything we are learning in medical science you never know! But then again I am not 100% sure so I am undecided!

CaptainHorror13
11-24-2006, 06:13 PM
what is wrong with you guys, of course a zombie apocolypse is possible. i believe in it 100%. scientist can make new descoveries and develop anything they put their minds to. like back in the day of vinal records, no one could have ever dreamed of an MP3 player to hold as much or even more than a normal computer and yet here we are still making electronics smaller and cloning organs and descovering cures for the incurable. someone can discover a new organic virus to stimulate dead tissue causing it to reanimate and create basic motor skill functions. all i am saying is i believe in a zombie apocolypse.:guns: :zom2: :shotg: :zom2:

ZombieJohn
11-24-2006, 06:42 PM
what is wrong with you guys, of course a zombie apocolypse is possible. i believe in it 100%. scientist can make new descoveries and develop anything they put their minds to. like back in the day of vinal records, no one could have ever dreamed of an MP3 player to hold as much or even more than a normal computer and yet here we are still making electronics smaller and cloning organs and descovering cures for the incurable. someone can discover a new organic virus to stimulate dead tissue causing it to reanimate and create basic motor skill functions. all i am saying is i believe in a zombie apocolypse.:guns: :zom2: :shotg: :zom2:

100%? Thats a little over board don't you think?

dogscanlookup
11-24-2006, 08:54 PM
i can see a rage style virus being developed but saying that i put no. even if such a thing happend there would be fail safes in situe for the thing to be a minimal event. it'd be covered up and we wouldnt even hear about it....actually, there is alot of strange people in derby, wonder if its happend there already?

gingiemon
11-25-2006, 05:46 PM
Over the last 40 years the dead have roamed on celluliod they have run walked hissed screached and screamed into our lives . they drink blood ,eat flesh and souls.
The fear cuts into our very core.the fear that the undead will eat ourflesh drink our blood destroy us.
I have nightmares. so will it happen or is it just my night mare

force
11-25-2006, 08:12 PM
i also put not sure... i not believe in real undead people who walking around and bite the living... but a setting like in 28 days later might be happen today or in future...

Irish Gothic Journal
11-25-2006, 08:20 PM
Nah...:roll:

CaptainHorror13
11-25-2006, 09:42 PM
no i dont think its over the top.

Webber
11-26-2006, 03:11 AM
My 10th grade biology teacher was speaking to the class and said scientists expect something like a 28 days later scenario []he didnt mention the movie, someone in the class did and he said yes[] will happen, he's very intelligent, and if I ever talk to him again I will ask him where he read this information so you guys dont think I'm talking out of my ass here. He's VERY smart, and i'd put my faith into his teachings any day of the week. On a side note, if they are 28 days later type, well then we dont gotta worry about hittin the head now do we? :lol:

gingiemon
11-26-2006, 01:52 PM
the problem with death is death can't exist without life.
we have transpants.
so who knows that maybe anti-regection drugs are the key to the living dead.
For now they are confined to imunology. supression of antibodies. in the not so distant future. the suppression of GENES
the supression of time to die genes. the end of our cells need to die. especially the brain. but then the cells need nutriants.
and so it begins

chewy
11-26-2006, 02:05 PM
the problem with death is death can't exist without life.

How very philisophical.

we have transpants.

What do transplants have to do with anything?

so who knows that maybe anti-regection drugs are the key to the living dead.For now they are confined to imunology. supression of antibodies.

For Elvis' sake... STEROIDS are the most commonly used anti-rejection medication. Others that are commonly used are CHEMOTHERAPY meds. Do some reading on these medications and their methods of action before going off on a tangent about their possible ability to raise the dead.:doh:

in the not so distant future. the suppression of GENES
the supression of time to die genes. the end of our cells need to die. especially the brain. but then the cells need nutriants.
and so it begins

You CANNOT suppress a single gene without re-writing the genetic code of every single cell in the host organism. And if you look into matters further, there is no "time to die" gene.



:x I've given myself a headache again :x

Zombie-A-GoGo
11-27-2006, 02:56 PM
And if you look into matters further, there is no "time to die" gene.


Come to think of it...even if there was a "time to die" gene...wouldn't "supressing" it just cause us to get really, really old and frankly, useless? Holy hell, that would suck. And you couldn't really apply that process to a corpse--in order to "make" a zombie--because it's already dead (read: the "time to die" gene has already worked its magic).

Geez... :roll::drool:

UNDEAD FRED
11-29-2006, 01:32 PM
I am surprise that no one has discussed the Vodoo aspect of zombies, some type of drug induced vodoo state. a lot of ex-slaves in the East Indies praticed Vodoo, but the pratice of Vodoo was quickly outlawed, and Im sure the penalty of death was imposed on anyone who was caught praticing it. forcing it to go underground. Theres a lot of things that go un-explained out there. Weve become to civilized to reconize them. :loon:

headshotscrazy
11-29-2006, 08:37 PM
I am surprise that no one has discussed the Vodoo aspect of zombies, some type of drug induced voodoo state. a lot of ex-slaves in the East Indies praticed Vodoo, but the pratice of Vodoo was quickly outlawed, and Im sure the penalty of death was imposed on anyone who was caught praticing it. forcing it to go underground. Theres a lot of things that go un-explained out there. Weve become to civilized to reconize them. :loon:

darkness knows hells of alot about this :scare: but anyhow il try add what ever i can remember. well if i remember correctly voodoo zombies dont eat people as such and dont really seem to take any notice of modern society so theres not much point in being scared of them and thats about all i can remember about voodoo zombies.

ZombieJohn
11-30-2006, 10:34 PM
darkness knows hells of alot about this :scare: but anyhow il try add what ever i can remember. well if i remember correctly voodoo zombies dont eat people as such and dont really seem to take any notice of modern society so theres not much point in being scared of them and thats about all i can remember about voodoo zombies.

The voodoo zombies aren't flesh eaters.

gingiemon
12-01-2006, 05:36 PM
set me free your heavens a lie
set me free
oh no
here it is again
dolefully desired
destiny a lie

ZombieJohn
12-01-2006, 10:56 PM
set me free your heavens a lie
set me free
oh no
here it is again
dolefully desired
destiny a lie

Why do you keep posting random stuff?

awfulman
12-02-2006, 03:40 AM
set me free your heavens a lie
set me free
oh no
here it is again
dolefully desired
destiny a lie

I suspect you're altogether misundersanding the context of this forum.

lizardman464
12-02-2006, 07:24 PM
Ugh, bad poetry =/

Anyway, I think 28-days later scenario is possible. I 100% believe in voodoo zombies, they just are more like really stoned guys then classical zombies though =)

Divided Soul
12-11-2006, 03:29 PM
I think the voodoo Zombies were pretty much the original

Salivation
12-11-2006, 08:44 PM
I think the voodoo Zombies were pretty much the original

voodoo zombies are the original night of the living dead and all the other early underground films just put a whole new spin on it. Then 28dayslater and the re-made dawn of the dead came out and put even more of a spin on it by making the zombies fast and stronger.

Zombie Survivor
12-12-2006, 01:16 PM
voodoo zombies are the original night of the living dead and all the other early underground films just put a whole new spin on it. Then 28dayslater and the re-made dawn of the dead came out and put even more of a spin on it by making the zombies fast and stronger.

Yep, the voodoo slaves are the first and the only real zombies. We all love the walking corpses to death (I know I do), but they aren't technically zombies. If you take it litteraly that is.

About the question asked in the beginning of the thread, I think that the possiblity of a zombie outbreak is 0%. A 28DL-ish outbreak is possible, but they aren't zombies. So it's impossible.

long finger jack
12-12-2006, 08:43 PM
honestly i'm not sure if an outbreak might ever happen, it might happen...in the distant future maybe, maybe not, no can see into the future, unless you're a pysco and you think you can:evil:

ZombieJohn
12-12-2006, 08:52 PM
honestly i'm not sure if an outbreak might ever happen, it might happen...in the distant future maybe, maybe not, no can see into the future, unless you're a pysco and you think you can:evil:

Whats a pysco? Or do you mean psycho? Use spell check. XD

Darkness
12-12-2006, 10:41 PM
darkness knows hells of a lot about this :scare: but anyhow I'll try add what ever i can remember. well if i remember correctly voodoo zombies don't eat people as such and don't really seem to take any notice of modern society so there's not much point in being scared of them and that's about all i can remember about voodoo zombies.

"VooDoo Zombies do whatever their Mambo, or Mamba, commands them to do. If left to their own devices, they might attack a human and try to eat them. But only out of pure instinct, driven by hunger. This is because their sense of reason, and right and wrong, is highly dysfunctional."

"VooDoo Zombies may not be 'technically' dead, but in their minds they truly believe themselves 'risen from the grave'. And no one knows just how truly close to that fine line, between life and death, the Zombie Power actually takes it's victims."

headshotscrazy
12-13-2006, 08:19 PM
"VooDoo Zombies do whatever their Mambo, or Mamba, commands them to do. If left to their own devices, they might attack a human and try to eat them. But only out of pure instinct, driven by hunger. This is because their sense of reason, and right and wrong, is highly dysfunctional."

"VooDoo Zombies may not be 'technically' dead, but in their minds they truly believe themselves 'risen from the grave'. And no one knows just how truly close to that fine line, between life and death, the Zombie Power actually takes it's victims."

sounds nasty and also sounds like a dance with the mental asylum..... or a trip off the Brooklyn Bridge.

ZombieJohn
12-13-2006, 10:02 PM
sounds nasty and also sounds like a dance with the mental asylum..... or a trip off the Brooklyn Bridge.

You ever see Serpent and the rainbow???

UNDEAD FRED
12-19-2006, 10:01 PM
I thought Vodoo zombies didnt eat human flesh, they just do thier masters dirty evil deeds. :evil:

Red Raptor
12-21-2006, 05:53 PM
voodoo zombies are just on drugs, the zombie powder is made from blowfish venom. It causes a lot of brain damage too.
Solanum is entirely possible, although the zombies wouldnt be able to move without oxygen and blood circulation.

chewy
12-21-2006, 06:29 PM
Solanum is entirely possible,

How?

although the zombies wouldnt be able to move without oxygen and blood circulation.

Movement is dependant on electrical activity, not blood flow & oxygen. Did you ever do the "frog leg & 9-volt battery" experiment in science class?

Red Raptor
12-21-2006, 06:37 PM
not yet. Im still in middle school
Anyway, its still possible, just with some changes.

rebukePete
12-21-2006, 10:29 PM
I'm kinda embarrased to say that I'm at a point where I've actually convinced myself that it will indeed happen. And I want it to happen.

chewy
12-21-2006, 10:36 PM
I'm kinda embarrased to say that I'm at a point where I've actually convinced myself that it will indeed happen.

No need to be embarrassed. There are quite a few people here who seem to be blatantly unconcerned with their own safety and would happily embrace being knocked a few links down the food chain. You have lots of company.

And I want it to happen.

Why?

Red Raptor
12-22-2006, 02:54 PM
so we can run around with katanas and machetes and sawed-off shotguns and cricket bats.

headshotscrazy
12-22-2006, 03:20 PM
and get shot at? ran over? eaten alive? go into a total killing frenzy because of the constant moaning? get chased around by things that look scarier than your mutated neighbor on Halloween? really these are just some really fun bonuses that come with living in a undead world!

Weapons_Check_Food_Crap!!
12-22-2006, 10:01 PM
I think anyone who "REALLY" does is heavily medicated without internet access lol

UNDEAD FRED
12-22-2006, 11:29 PM
I believe it ONLY in my zombie fiction writting, If you beleive in a actual zombie outbreak, cut down the dose.

Darkness
01-04-2007, 08:27 PM
"I have to say that, deep down inside, I can't bring myself to believe in the Romero-Type Zombies, or those similar."

"But, I must admit, that I do believe in the possibility of some evil, psychopathic Voo Doo Witch Doctor creating an army of walking, brain-dead, cannibalistic 'Zombies'. Contagious? No. Just as deadly? I think so."

M4A3
01-05-2007, 08:32 AM
I try to prepare for disasters of all sorts.

The stuff I've got saved up and stashed away for more conventional crisis situations will work for the practically impossible event of an outbreak of marauding ghouls as well.

Red Raptor
01-05-2007, 07:17 PM
the voodoo zombie drug is made from blowfish poison.

Devon
01-05-2007, 09:33 PM
Yes
Someone going to make virus and spend it to people

babbyc1000
01-05-2007, 11:16 PM
no i dont believe itll happen in the traditional sense. i reckon it something like it ever did happen it would be something more like a bio weapon or a plague, so people arent actually dead, just lose all reasoning and higher functions, or become enraged psychopaths like 28dl. or it could just be a good night on the town with too much vodka, sounds like a good discription of my local town on a saturday night!

smokezombie
01-07-2007, 01:47 AM
Yes,I think it might be possible.
How? Who can say what medical research will come up with in 100 years time? Not me thats for sure.
Why do I believe? Again I'm not sure. But rebukePete's post rang a bell. I don't believe I'll ever win the lottery but I still buy a ticket. Now I don't live my life in a constant state af readyness of an outbreak but I have got a plan and I've made sure my wife knows what to do (she just smiles).

BlackMamba
01-08-2007, 03:23 AM
I'd love to say yes to this, but I believe it won't happen. Traditional zombies, that is. The dead rising to feast on brains, etc. 28DL, maybe. It seems like that could be possible, but anything else? Nope.

Surge
01-08-2007, 06:12 AM
I say yes, but for a completely different reason to most.

There is a theory, the name of which escapes me, in physics (I believe). To express it in an understandable way... When you measure the possibility of something happening in an eternal timeframe (since time is eternal), the chances of it happening become an infinite number.

Like, the chances of you winning the lottery in the next week are something like a billion to one - but the chances of you winning the lottery at some stage in the rest of eternity is an infinite number to an infinite number.

That means that at some stage in the eternity of time, a world exactly like ours, right down to every detail of our history, will exist, and a real zombie outbreak will happen. It's possible that we live on that world right now.

So, I really really really doubt it - but I believe it's a possibility!! :loon:

Uuklay
01-14-2007, 11:23 PM
We already have rabies which reacts quite strongly on the most docile of animals, and imagine if that virus somehow mutated to have those same effects in humans? That's scary stuff.

Well, umm, actually, rabies kinda DOES affect people the same way it affects animals. The exact same way, in fact. Just check this out. http://rabiesfreeworld.com/resources/rabies51.mpg Some foreign kid who's just entering the aggitated stage of rabies. DISTURBING SUBJECT MATTER! DON'T CLICK IF YOU ARE SQUEE... ah, what am warning you guys for? This IS a zombie forum, after all.

Uuklay
01-14-2007, 11:36 PM
I think that it's entirely possible. It's possible for organisms to function without oxygen (called anaerobic organisms), and we already have viruses that make people want to lash out and infect others (rabies). But for those of you who think it's impossible for dead tissue to be reanimated simply because science says so, think on this: in 1975, the fossils of quetzalcoatlus were discovered. It had a wingspan of 40 ft, which, at the time, science said was impossible. The laws of science had to be rewritten to accomadate for this impossible animal. So don't try to sound all high and mighty by stating that "science sez eetz not pozzible", because science has been, and will continue to be, proven wrong. :)

ilovetotravel
01-15-2007, 01:04 AM
With all the different pollutants we use, and chemicals and toxic waste, and then you add the issues with different religions and the beliefs about the Rapture and revelations, I do think it could happen----I do not want it to, though. That is just too frightening to me.:-(

chewy
01-15-2007, 02:03 AM
and we already have viruses that make people want to lash out and infect others (rabies).

Rabies does not MAKE YOU do anything. It causes viral encephalitis. That's it. It doesn't forcibly change your behavior. Period. If you don't believe me, look it up. PLEASE look it up.

But for those of you who think it's impossible for dead tissue to be reanimated simply because science says so, think on this: in 1975, the fossils of quetzalcoatlus were discovered. It had a wingspan of 40 ft, which, at the time, science said was impossible. The laws of science had to be rewritten to accomadate for this impossible animal. So don't try to sound all high and mighty by stating that "science sez eetz not pozzible", because science has been, and will continue to be, proven wrong. :)

There is a HUGE difference between a hitherto-unknown animal and some virus that can raise the dead. That's not even in the same ballpark. It's not even the same game. Once cell death has occured, that's it. The game is over.

Come back to talk to me when you have a grasp of biology and biochemistry.

Leguizombie81705
01-16-2007, 05:03 AM
Rabies does not affect humans at all the same way it affects animals. Sure animals become rabid, but have you ever heard of a human foaming at the mouth and then biting another person? I mean films are nice, but you need to come back to reality sometime.

And Uuklay wtf is up with typing in what I'm guessing is a french accent?? Has anyone on here claimed to be french or typed their posts like that? I dont think so. Watch how you say things.

As for the whole theory of Zombiness, I agree with chewy that once cells die they die. True who knows what will happen hundreds of years from now. I don't believe reanimation will happen, but what about a virus or bacteria that doesn't reanimate dead flesh, but transforms living flesh into something unrecognizable... where perhaps there might be a green tinge :)

ilovetotravel
01-23-2007, 04:05 PM
To me, I think I might go into shock if anything like a zombie outbreak actually happened. The idea is definitely one of my many different nightmares. I don't think it would be as easy to survive as some people think---for one, it isn't easy to just suddenly get guns and ammo, and 2, when panic insues, the streets are crazy to be on.

I think it could happen, and I just hope that it doesn't. At least not in my life time.

Divided Soul
01-28-2007, 10:20 PM
Sure, anything is possible!

jessidusen
01-30-2007, 05:33 PM
who says you have to be dead to be a zombie. ZOMBIE itself is more of a descriptive term and not a thing... there verywell could be zombie like outbreaks.. IE.. there is a virus (sorry for forgetting the name) that will cause lesions on athe frontal lobes of the brain specifically in the areas that control inhibitions and more effectively civility. These lesions cause a madness similar to the dawn '04 symptoms... now that being said... a bullet to the heart was just as effective as the brain.. so none of the superhuman crap would prevail... just an idea to throw out there..

Divided Soul
02-04-2007, 11:22 PM
who says you have to be dead to be a zombie. ZOMBIE itself is more of a descriptive term and not a thing... there verywell could be zombie like outbreaks.. IE.. there is a virus (sorry for forgetting the name) that will cause lesions on athe frontal lobes of the brain specifically in the areas that control inhibitions and more effectively civility. These lesions cause a madness similar to the dawn '04 symptoms... now that being said... a bullet to the heart was just as effective as the brain.. so none of the superhuman crap would prevail... just an idea to throw out there..
(Bullet to the heart = death) = Crazed human.... (bullet the Brain = Death) = Zombie...

jessidusen
02-05-2007, 10:32 AM
(Bullet to the heart = death) = Crazed human.... (bullet the Brain = Death) = Zombie...

assumiing that a zombie outbreak not consiting of DEAD people but infected or brain damaged crazies... bullet to the brain to either would do the trick... try this at home kids...

your parents are all vampires... to prove my point... go put a stake through their hearts... they'll die for sure and you'll see they were vampires.. MWAHAHA

piratedATHF
02-06-2007, 05:01 PM
Mmm, but wouldn't it kind of be fun if there was a zombie outbreak? I mean, think of it -- an excuse not to go to work and to care about something else besides making money, which is actually staying alive. At least I think it would be kind of fun. Sure I'd be scared shitless, but still.

sks forever
02-06-2007, 06:02 PM
I think that germ warfare could do some strange stuff. Not to mention the effects of radioactivity on humans, which is virtually unknown and unpredictable.

Jackie Coupe
02-07-2007, 06:32 AM
One day I will swing my legs out of bed and the world will be deathly quiet.
I will go over and open my curtains and be greeted by shambling horrors.
They will be stood, like stone, watching for signs of my movement.

I believe.

My fate to one day to be digested by my neighbours is only going to be avoided by my being ready.
For those that don't believe that the government will one day have the electrochemical elements required to animate dead flesh - this is a folly that may cost you your life!

sks forever
02-07-2007, 01:16 PM
I like your wording. I hope it begins already. I just need to figure out how I am going to save my cats.:) Love those little buggers like they were my kids.

Jackie Coupe
02-08-2007, 08:52 AM
Thank you!
I have three cats too, all rescue babies.
Fluffy little shits are my chidlren of zee night!! Vlah Vlah!
I know my cats are clever and could outrun zombies.
I live near a canal, there were be plenty of fowl for them to eat and zombies are dumb enough just to fall in.

I know they can hunt prtty well, many a morning I find a mangled mouse on my doorstep.

DuffyC4thFreak
02-11-2007, 02:03 AM
of all the apocalyptic scenarios, this 1 has a more interesting ending, and seriously, who doesnt want to crack some skulls during their final run? Go down with a bang (molotov+gas station anyone) The novelty of killing shamblers is 2 good to pass up, dead rising style with toys, nerf guns, fake swords, pillows. STand on a car with a driver and go golfing. Have a z-pedrestrian contest, whoever hits the most zombies win. Its fun as endless as the hordes, im in. (i believe not because i know its possible, its the opposite, but because i want it to happen, just like christianity :loon:)

Pine fresh zombie
02-11-2007, 04:01 AM
Haha It's true.

Zombie Survivor
02-11-2007, 10:59 AM
^ Pine Fresh Zombie, your signature is enormous, could you resize it please?

Jackie Coupe
02-12-2007, 07:11 AM
I will surround my neighbours house with spicy brains and make off when the zombies are busy.

Or maybe some bird flu infected meat, hey, maybe thats the way to go. Infect the infected zombies....

Amsterdamm
02-12-2007, 01:51 PM
(Bullet to the heart = death) = Crazed human.... (bullet the Brain = Death) = Zombie...

How about in C syntax?

public bool IsUndead(Person theTestSubject)
{Ammo theAmmo = new Ammo(12, Ammo.eType.Buckshot);
Shotgun theGun = new Shotgun(Shotgun.eType.Pump);

theGun.Name = "Betsy";
theGun.Load(theAmmo);

if (theGun.Shoot(theTestSubject, Person.Location.Body, Shotgun.eRange.PointBlank) != Person.Status.Dead)
{return true;}
else
{return false;}
}

Jackie Coupe
02-14-2007, 08:35 AM
My mum said I didn't have to do maths when I left school.
You meanie!

chewy
02-14-2007, 06:04 PM
public bool IsUndead(Person theTestSubject)
{Ammo theAmmo = new Ammo(12, Ammo.eType.Buckshot);
Shotgun theGun = new Shotgun(Shotgun.eType.Pump);

theGun.Name = "Betsy";
theGun.Load(theAmmo);

if (theGun.Shoot(theTestSubject, Person.Location.Body, Shotgun.eRange.PointBlank) != Person.Status.Dead)
{return true;}
else
{return false;}
}

OMFG. We have a new uber-geek.:)

Jackie Coupe
02-15-2007, 08:18 AM
I had to take a lie down after that, words are my weapons, numbers make my bum cringe.

PRETTYPOISON
03-06-2007, 11:49 AM
Id have to say yes.

- Yes becuase there are viruses and diseases that mess with brain cells and cause you to act strange (ie mental disesases, and even certain viruses that change cells in your body etc.). Can you imagine if some how a mental patient became a zombie like creature? Wait, aren't mental patients already like zombies anyway?? Think about it? Some of them walk around aimlessly, some are extremly violent and they bite. Do you think that the govenment already came up with a " Zombie Virus" and disguised it as mental illness??

Lets examine it a little closer, they keep mental patients in secured hospitals right, and they always experiment on them and use them like lab rats, well isnt that part of the theorys on what they did to zombies?

They government covers up all types of things why wouldn't the cover up zombies aka mental patients??





:2cents: This is just all part of my zombie theory that ive come up with in the past couple years.

chewy
03-06-2007, 11:55 AM
Lets examine it a little closer, they keep mental patients in secured hospitals right, and they always experiment on them and use them like lab rats, well isnt that part of the theorys on what they did to zombies?

You've seen "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" too many times. No experimentation, no using patients like lab rats.

PRETTYPOISON
03-06-2007, 12:03 PM
No, its true. Ive done real research. Aside from soundling like a zombie weirdo I'm a mental history buff. Over the past few years I've done research for a few papers I have written. They really did do experimets on patients. An example a frontal lobe lobotamy, in which the removed a part of the brain which was thought to cause the mental illness. Although it never cured the patient it put them in a zombie like state.

chewy
03-06-2007, 12:44 PM
No, its true. Ive done real research. Aside from soundling like a zombie weirdo I'm a mental history buff. Over the past few years I've done research for a few papers I have written. They really did do experimets on patients. An example a frontal lobe lobotamy, in which the removed a part of the brain which was thought to cause the mental illness. Although it never cured the patient it put them in a zombie like state.

Yes, DID do. No longer. There was a revision of attitude towards mental illness during the 50s & 60s due in large part to some of the stories of gross maltreatment of psychiatric patients. With the shift towards outpatient mental health that came in the 70s & 80s, the large asylums of old were closed. Wide-spread usage of psych patients and the disabled as guinea pigs for medical research stopped in the 60s.

Lobotomies weren't really "experimental". At the time, they were the accepted standard of practice for mental illness; the equivalent to the current usage of psych medications. You're right that lobotomies never cured the patients of the illness, but it did make them quiet and much more manageable. I wouldn't say it put them in a zombie-like state since these people were still capable of speech and interaction with others, albeit on a child-like level.

PRETTYPOISON
03-06-2007, 01:58 PM
Yes, DID do. No longer. There was a revision of attitude towards mental illness during the 50s & 60s due in large part to some of the stories of gross maltreatment of psychiatric patients. With the shift towards outpatient mental health that came in the 70s & 80s, the large asylums of old were closed. Wide-spread usage of psych patients and the disabled as guinea pigs for medical research stopped in the 60s.

Lobotomies weren't really "experimental". At the time, they were the accepted standard of practice for mental illness; the equivalent to the current usage of psych medications. You're right that lobotomies never cured the patients of the illness, but it did make them quiet and much more manageable. I wouldn't say it put them in a zombie-like state since these people were still capable of speech and interaction with others, albeit on a child-like level.

I know they no longer do this but it was popular at that time. It still went on into the 70's but it was mainly drug testing. Most of the early lobotamies ended up with more "zombie like effects" and by zombie i mean how u explained it i know the still maintained motor functions it just made them slower. Im not talking about full on zombies like the ones that are gonna eat your brain, im talking about mindlesss people that roam the halls of mental institutions and people who roam the streets who probly once were in those mental hospitals.

Chewy dont be such a party pooper to a kiddish theory ive come up with to amuse myself. But the things i speak of about mental hospitals are true and you can take account of it in albert duetsch's book shame of the states. Dont ruin my fun. lol

chewy
03-06-2007, 02:14 PM
Chewy dont be such a party pooper to a kiddish theory ive come up with to amuse myself. But the things i speak of about mental hospitals are true and you can take account of it in albert duetsch's book shame of the states. Dont ruin my fun. lol

Sorry. It's kinda hard to separate the "kiddish theories" versus the people who think that not only is a zombie invasion possible, but that it is imminent.

I know that what you're saying about mental hospitals was true back in the long ago, but that's not what it's like now. Modern psych hospitals look like a cross between a regular hospital and a chain hotel. As for all of that funny stuff they did before, say, 1950? No more. The hospitals have to contend with JCAHO now, and they take a very dim view upon involuntary human medical experimentation.

PRETTYPOISON
03-06-2007, 02:25 PM
I know very little about mental hospitals now, i know that they dont do crazy experiments anymore but i know they did back in the day before they shut more than half of them down in the mid 80's and early 90's. Its interesting about what they used to do i read a few books watched so documentaries, its kinda interesting. How do u know so much about mental hospitals, u know a good deal.

chewy
03-06-2007, 02:57 PM
How do u know so much about mental hospitals, u know a good deal.

I've worked in one, and I struck up a conversation with a forensic psychiatrist on one quiet and boring night. He was a wealth of information of how members of his profession used to do things back in the old days.

PRETTYPOISON
03-06-2007, 02:59 PM
Thats awsome. I wish i had that kind of info when i was writing my papers and doing research. If ya dont mind me asking which hospital did u work at?

GenPirate
03-21-2007, 08:56 AM
Yes, our government is doing so many experiments that we dont know about, it is possible. Think about it, a zombie is something that really dies and then rises from the grave so to speak, so when a guy dies and they use those electric paddle things isn't that basically bringing the dead back to life? Yes, I know zombies want to eat living flesh and all that but I think it is 0.01% possible but highly unlikely.

chewy
03-21-2007, 12:07 PM
so when a guy dies and they use those electric paddle things isn't that basically bringing the dead back to life?

Technically, no. All a defibrillator does is stop the heart so that hopefully the SA node will start discharging correctly again and bring the heart back into a regular rhythm. No cell death has occurred at this point.

GenPirate
03-21-2007, 02:14 PM
Technically, no. All a defibrillator does is stop the heart so that hopefully the SA node will start discharging correctly again and bring the heart back into a regular rhythm. No cell death has occurred at this point.

Oh, my bad then :(

chewy
03-21-2007, 03:03 PM
Oh, my bad then :(

No problem. It's a common misconception that a defibrillator restarts the heart. If the heart has completely stopped (asystole/flatline), you'll never see the docs use a defibrillator since it wouldn't do anything.

pogosama
03-22-2007, 08:06 PM
Actually, that is fascinating. I was always under the impression that they restored a heartbeat, didnt speed one up.

UNDEAD FRED
03-22-2007, 09:23 PM
It will allways be the fantasy, but I will settle for a outbreak of new zombie movies.

chewy
03-22-2007, 10:06 PM
Actually, that is fascinating. I was always under the impression that they restored a heartbeat, didnt speed one up.

A defribrillator actually interrupts the electrical activity (read: stops) in your heart in the hope that the group of cells in your heart that generate the electrical impulses that make it beat will start firing normally again. When your heart is fibrillating, it's just kind of spasming and not pumping any blood. The paramedics or hospital staff will shock you first, and if that doesn't work, they load you up with medications to make your heart beat in a regular rhythm. If that still doesn't work, they'll shock you and give you more meds until you either return to a normal rhythm or you die.

pogosama
03-23-2007, 12:08 AM
Wow. Thats tight.

Anywayz, back to the zombie thing. I truly do believe that zombies could be real. I've read too much and invested to much time in the subject to beleive otherwise, even if my logic tries to tell me otherwise.

Fierce_Track
03-24-2007, 10:33 PM
I'm not entirely sure about it i mean it does seem somewhat possible but i'm definately not thinking about it too much. It's all sorta confusing to me whether zombies could exhist or not.

Diablo
03-31-2007, 07:54 PM
I believe in the 28DL type of outbreak because they were infected with something that basically fried their brains, other than that not sure. I mean a chicken can still run around for quite a while after you chop its head off.

craiganthonypuckett
04-02-2007, 01:32 AM
A vote for no here. While I think a 28 Days Later scenario is possible, I was voting along what I think the original poster meant, which is an old school Romero-style "the dead get up and walk again" situation.
To that, I have nothing to say but "no." I just don't think such a thing could ever occur, either in science or by some other arcane means.
And yet, I wholeheartedly believe in Christianity. I guess I'm hypocritical like that. ;)

BFZ
04-03-2007, 07:10 PM
:clap: I say its possible.

unexplained things happen all the time, things that have never been explained by science.

Will it happen? Probly not ever.

Godzilla_Rules
04-03-2007, 08:56 PM
It will never happen. it's all rubbish that makes for a great movie. Now I think a situation like 28 days later can happen but not a zombie outbreak like Romeros films.

pogosama
04-03-2007, 09:16 PM
So then how do you seperate the two HLS? I was under the impression that both films were built on a zombie impression. The two are more similiar then different.

BFZ
04-03-2007, 09:57 PM
So then how do you seperate the two HLS? I was under the impression that both films were built on a zombie impression. The two are more similiar then different.


I think the biggest difference is that in 28DL they never died and reanimated. They were just living people that were infected. Which is the very reason I have a hard time thinking of it as zombie movie.

Cenobite
04-04-2007, 07:27 PM
Yeah its fun to think about but...nah.

ico
04-06-2007, 12:52 AM
Im going to say yes. In all seriousness.

Like someone mentioned before, I've seen and experienced way too much to even begin thinking that I know even a trillionth of information about this planet, let alone the universe.

Dying and coming back to life is not science fiction. The practice is used every day in coronary artery bypass graft surgery. Using the right chemicals and procedures, a person can be brought back to life. An infectious disease, if it had evolved that way, could very well do the same. Different diseases and cancers that plague our world today will destroy and alter cells in the human body.

I for one believe that the universe is infinite. If you also believe this, then you have to accept the fact that anything is possible; infinite space = infinite action. So how are we to know if theres a virus on mars that kills people and reanimates them. Hell, it might not even be a virus, it could be microscopic living organisms, a new race, taking over and controlling the host body; each individual organism able to generate its own energy etc. Each "colony" of organisms, feeding on the nutrients of the flesh their host provides. I dont know.

What I'm saying is that you shouldn't throw away a theory until it's been disproven. The world was once flat, the center of the universe and the only planet in the solar system. Cell synthesis without cloning is now possible, multiple cancer vaccinations are now available, robots are being integrated into our everyday lives, the list goes on...

I dont know about you but I kinda feel like anything could happen in this world.

Zombie Survivor
04-26-2007, 04:07 PM
Using the right chemicals and procedures, a person can be brought back to life.

I have some Trioxin 245 in my backyard, shall we do some experiments? :lol:

But in all seriousness, I don't think zombies are possible. Because what point is their to organisms to control a host that rots away within months? Microscopical organisims (bacteria, virusses etc.) don't have a large lifespan outside the human body. Everything in nature must have a suitable enviroment and qualities for organisms to evolve. Frankly, it's better to just settle in a living host, instead of a dead one.

Zombies are just a source of entertainment for me. Nice things to fantasize about (in a non-sexual way). So you won't see me preparing for a zombie apocalypse because I'm certain that it won't happen.

P.S.
If it does happen, I'll buy all of you a beer :)

chewy
04-26-2007, 10:14 PM
Using the right chemicals and procedures, a person can be brought back to life.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Any proof? Citations? *snicker*

Dying and coming back to life is not science fiction. The practice is used every day in coronary artery bypass graft surgery.

*exasperated sigh* Patient is prepped. Patient is put under. Patient is placed on heart-lung bypass machine. Patient's heart is stopped. Patient's body is cooled SO THAT THEIR CELLS DO NOT DIE. Procedure is performed. Patient's body is warmed back up. Patient's heart is restarted, usually by intracardiac injection of adrenalin. Patient is taken off of heart-lung bypass. Patient is then sewn up and shipped off to the CCU.

Patient never sustained significant cell damage. If they had, the only way they're getting off the table is in a body bag. Please don't use heart-lung bypass as some way of legitimizing this fantasy.

Mobious221
04-26-2007, 11:30 PM
personly i think that the US is going to blow up some country or other way around we get blown up and we fight and blow everything up... i think thats more realistic than the zombie-28dl thing

METIOR!

TheDeadHarlequinQueen
04-28-2007, 12:07 PM
I dun know. It be kinda cool in my oppinion if it DID happen, but I don't know... it kind of seems just a bit unrealistic so I don't think it would happen but, you never know. :lol:

RobDimension
04-30-2007, 07:06 PM
I voted yes...It will happen. Just when is the question....The real question is - will you be prepared?:evil:

MaxVeers
04-30-2007, 08:08 PM
28 Days Later-esque outbreaks seem more likely... Or the apocalypse, and second coming of Christ.

But, ya know, if we're trained to prepare against those that feel no pain and can only be killed by headshots, what trouble will regular, crazed people or hellborne rejects be?

kimdimension
05-08-2007, 05:23 PM
I said Yes! The military & government hides so much from us already. Like what truly happened on 9/11. They could have the bio-weapons ready now for all we know.

SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty
05-12-2007, 08:45 PM
Nah, never happen. It's just not possible physiologically or otherwise. The whole undead survival thing that some of us like to discuss is just a parallel to Cold War post-apocalypse survival.

Patches
05-12-2007, 11:39 PM
I fully believe that the RECENTLY dead could be reanimated, it's like getting an f'd up car to turn over. the human body is really pretty simplistic, i mean, life support is essentially keeping the dead alive. keep the heart pumping and it will deliver blood, keep the diaphram moving and the blood will be oxygenated. only problem is that the brain would be all but gone, leaving at best the stem and some of the lower functions living. AKA, uncle pauly can barely coordinate himself and keeps going".....meeeeeeeeeeh...uuuuueeeeh"

now as for the hunger for the flesh of the living, that's a big ol' no.

Flyboy
05-13-2007, 04:31 AM
As someone said, it'd be more along the lines of a "28 Days" scenario. You had the big 'hoo-har' over SARs around the time the aforementioned movie came out. Someones trying to tell us something...:loon:

zombiekilling101
05-13-2007, 09:32 PM
As someone said, it'd be more along the lines of a "28 Days" scenario. You had the big 'hoo-har' over SARs around the time the aforementioned movie came out. Someones trying to tell us something...:loon:

yeah first sars and now its the bird flu.. scary stuff.

wicaed
05-13-2007, 09:39 PM
Sorry to have this be my first post, but I have been following this for some time now.
If you believe in the idea of 2012, if you don't know what I am talking about, look it up. With the theories of planets misaligning causing massive earthquakes and tsunamis world wide, turning the world into maybe a massive anarchy, everyone going crazy, people attacking people, grouping up into mobs, loners living miles from any populations, defending themselves until repopulation or regovernmentation(?) Seems like a viable rage type, not a virus but everyone looting and raiding, drugged up people doing unpredictable things, seems like you would have to fend for yourself big time. Although the 28DL theory does seem very possible, a rage induced drug, with effects that last for days/weeks.
Even radioactivity seems to have unparalleled or misunderstood effects on living beings, I am not a expert of any kind on the effects of radiation or anything of that type; or if any type of radiation is modifiable to have certain effects on humans? I don't believe anytime soon that a particular "zombie" infestation will happen anytime soon because of that fact that I just see something reanimating and hungering for living flesh, the only way I could see something like that happening would be if they were just rage induced, attacking anything and everything, not just targeting humans, but with humans limits such as blood loss, sickness, malnutrition, starvation, etc.
My input.

zombiekilling101
05-13-2007, 09:42 PM
Sorry to have this be my first post, but I have been following this for some time now.
If you believe in the idea of 2012, if you don't know what I am talking about, look it up. With the theories of planets misaligning causing massive earthquakes and tsunamis world wide, turning the world into maybe a massive anarchy, everyone going crazy, people attacking people, grouping up into mobs, loners living miles from any populations, defending themselves until repopulation or regovernmentation(?) Seems like a viable rage type, not a virus but everyone looting and raiding, drugged up people doing unpredictable things, seems like you would have to fend for yourself big time. Although the 28DL theory does seem very possible, a rage induced drug, with effects that last for days/weeks.
Even radioactivity seems to have unparalleled or misunderstood effects on living beings, I am not a expert of any kind on the effects of radiation or anything of that type; or if any type of radiation is modifiable to have certain effects on humans? I don't believe anytime soon that a particular "zombie" infestation will happen anytime soon because of that fact that I just see something reanimating and hungering for living flesh, the only way I could see something like that happening would be if they were just rage induced, attacking anything and everything, not just targeting humans, but with humans limits such as blood loss, sickness, malnutrition, starvation, etc.
My input.

go head over to the intros thread and .. uh.. introduce yourself:)

ive never heard that theory on 2012.. people going nuts. I just always heard "its the end of the world as we know it.. and I feel fine" nukes, earthquakes the like. global natural diasaters..

lavel
05-19-2007, 03:52 PM
Sorry to have this be my first post, but I have been following this for some time now.
If you believe in the idea of 2012, if you don't know what I am talking about, look it up. With the theories of planets misaligning causing massive earthquakes and tsunamis world wide, turning the world into maybe a massive anarchy, everyone going crazy, people attacking people, grouping up into mobs, loners living miles from any populations, defending themselves until repopulation or regovernmentation(?) Seems like a viable rage type, not a virus but everyone looting and raiding, drugged up people doing unpredictable things, seems like you would have to fend for yourself big time. Although the 28DL theory does seem very possible, a rage induced drug, with effects that last for days/weeks.
Even radioactivity seems to have unparalleled or misunderstood effects on living beings, I am not a expert of any kind on the effects of radiation or anything of that type; or if any type of radiation is modifiable to have certain effects on humans? I don't believe anytime soon that a particular "zombie" infestation will happen anytime soon because of that fact that I just see something reanimating and hungering for living flesh, the only way I could see something like that happening would be if they were just rage induced, attacking anything and everything, not just targeting humans, but with humans limits such as blood loss, sickness, malnutrition, starvation, etc.
My input.

I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but...and I do say but, but actually a zombie invasion wouldn't be nonsense or a bunch of bologna but it would be very possible for something like that to occur. We've already experienced earthquakes, tsunami's, tornadoes but they were so spread out. Now. What if we had twenty hurricanes, twenty earthquakes, twenty tsunami's all occurring at the same time. What do we do then? Something of the impossible is going to pop it's head up and will probably cause a terrible problem. I wouldn't wish a zombie apocalypse on anyone, and who would want that? But we must live in reality as well. And one fact to that is that we have a Devil. And this Devil, wants to kill and destroy you plain and simple. I wish it wasn't like that but it's true. Now with zombies wanting to kill and eat your flesh, I don't know how true that is but this demon will be using Spiritualism in the end times (very much). We've all heard of ghost you know the ones that float, but what if ghost inhabits those of the dead? Dead animated flesh brought back by spirits. They will actually be unstoppable except for the flesh of course. And these dead will do unspeakable things to you. Bone chilling. I don't know what Satan has planned but it's not good. I've already seen the change of things. It's just a little bit but I've already recognized what it is: Time of Trouble. Those that don't know : Mark of the Beast. It's just a little bit but it's here and I'm frightened.:scare:

Zombie King
05-19-2007, 07:16 PM
go head over to the intros thread and .. uh.. introduce yourself:)

ive never heard that theory on 2012.. people going nuts. I just always heard "its the end of the world as we know it.. and I feel fine" nukes, earthquakes the like. global natural diasaters..

I love R.E.M.

Zombie King
05-19-2007, 07:20 PM
I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but...and I do say but, but actually a zombie invasion wouldn't be nonsense or a bunch of bologna but it would be very possible for something like that to occur. We've already experienced earthquakes, tsunami's, tornadoes but they were so spread out. Now. What if we had twenty hurricanes, twenty earthquakes, twenty tsunami's all occurring at the same time. What do we do then? Something of the impossible is going to pop it's head up and will probably cause a terrible problem. I wouldn't wish a zombie apocalypse on anyone, and who would want that? But we must live in reality as well. And one fact to that is that we have a Devil. And this Devil, wants to kill and destroy you plain and simple. I wish it wasn't like that but it's true. Now with zombies wanting to kill and eat your flesh, I don't know how true that is but this demon will be using Spiritualism in the end times (very much). We've all heard of ghost you know the ones that float, but what if ghost inhabits those of the dead? Dead animated flesh brought back by spirits. They will actually be unstoppable except for the flesh of course. And these dead will do unspeakable things to you. Bone chilling. I don't know what Satan has planned but it's not good. I've already seen the change of things. It's just a little bit but I've already recognized what it is: Time of Trouble. Those that don't know : Mark of the Beast. It's just a little bit but it's here and I'm frightened.:scare:

Look dude, I want a zombie outbreak to happen. I ain't kidding! It's okay to talk about satan, but remember, no god cuz religion isn't allowed in this forum. Well, I guess satanism is a religion but that ones okay!:) Actually, I'd just stop all together buddy, you're a little on the creepy side!:lol:

lordofthezombies
05-21-2007, 02:51 AM
i think it's totally possible. Especially since we can create artificial limbs etc. I think eventually some nutty country somewhere with a bunch of scientists are gonna create zeds. I think it'll happen but i don't know when.

mazlionheart
05-22-2007, 02:35 PM
In a weird way I always think its possible, and that's due to science and our unhealthy obsession with vanity - erm sounds crazy maybe but if they've figured out a way to try and put an end to baldness who else knows what's possible:lol:

Uuklay
05-23-2007, 02:34 AM
Can anyone say "December 23, 2012"?

Somethin' supposed to happen. Dunno what, but somethin'. Somethin' end of the world-y. The Aztecs think the world's gonna end then.


Speaking of old cultures and zombies, anyone seen this quote from the Epic of Gilgamesh?

"Father give me the Bull of Heaven,
So he can kill Gilgamesh in his dwelling.
If you do not give me the Bull of Heaven,
I will knock down the Gates of the Netherworld,
I will smash the doorposts, and leave the doors flat down,
and will let the dead go up to eat the living!
And the dead will outnumber the living!"

That Ishtar. Bein' such a douche to Gilgamesh.

Kemper
05-24-2007, 05:50 PM
It will be horrible because first they will have rage...Then they will turn into zombies. And we willl all be one big pile of :poo:

skullwarrior
06-06-2007, 01:26 PM
*looks at menu* ah yes i will have one order of zombie apocalypse with a side order of chaos and destruction please :) :) :loon: :loon:

mazlionheart
06-06-2007, 02:37 PM
*looks at menu* ah yes i will have one order of zombie apocalypse with a side order of chaos and destruction please


talk about food being bad for your health:lol:

Hunterx
06-07-2007, 02:31 AM
I, personaly think z-day is not a far fetched idea. I mean think about it. I've heard theories of a virus that turns you into a zombie. It stops your heart and feeds your brain itself, rendering you the walking dead. And with the theory of 2012, it's it's likely that something will happen revolving around that too. Although not very likely for the simple fact that that the mayan calendar was involved the moons rotation. ( It was the mayans. not the aztec... if I remember correctly) So whatever happens then, it will probably involve the moon, which would cause all the massive earthquakes and tsunamis here on earth.

opticaldata
06-09-2007, 02:47 PM
there is probably a very very small chance of an outbreak happening and if it does it will be many generations past mine. I mean with the breakthroughs in medical science they will eventually find out how to make people live longer or pro long there death but i sincerely doubt that they will make a "zombie virus". With the idea that the heart stops in a zombie is complete B.S. blood caries oxygen and nutrients to our vital organs providing energy(allowing muscle contractions I.E. movement), you would die just as fast if not faster from no blood circulation than you would loss of oxygen. Thats why i prefer the 28 days later interpretation of how zombies are made, its definitely more believable. I still don't understand how the hell a zombie virus was made in resident evil. they were trying to find a cure for visible aging when skin is aged by oxygen breaking away at the elastic cells in your skin.

WEAPONOFCHOICEKATANA
06-10-2007, 02:48 AM
When acid or L.S.D. was first developed the goverment saw it as a potential for a way to make the super soldier that felt no pain and would not get diverted from the mission by giving them acid, they hoped it would make them unstoppable just like the rage in 28dl. This is all true look it up there is a video of us army men running around trying to do a simple mission but could not accomplish anything cause they were to high, one even climbed a tree trying to catch a bird others just laughed while others freaked out. So i completely believe there will be a goverment test gone bad which will cause hopefully a outbreak of some sort:evil: this story is true look it up watch the video its funny i hope i bring some non believers around so they prepare and wont fall victim so quickly:drinking: now i have to go check my booby traps:evil:

Diablo
06-12-2007, 11:56 PM
Cocaine also gives that effect of not feeling pain, there have also been discussions about making "pain free" soldiers. This would be done by grafting a person whose nerves don't really work ( I forget the name of the thing that people have that makes them pain free.) and using stem cells just grow a syrem to inject into the soldiers.

Barbara
06-13-2007, 02:38 PM
While the intelligent side of me wants to say a firm "No"....

theres always that bit of doubt you know? I hope it doesnt b/c I live down the street from 2 cementaries. Im so screwed.

But, I do believe in the 28DL possbility.

lavel
06-15-2007, 06:19 PM
I wouldn't say I was for the possible but maybe, just maybe something like that could happen. Even CHRIST when He was talking to His disciples about the last days said there's going to come a time which no one is going to believe is going to happen to this world (the time of trouble) like nothing else no one has EVER seen. And I wish I was there to hear that! I bet it was so scary. The sky all gray and dark like it is now. They the disciples all sitting on a grassless knoll. Surrounded by figless trees, barren, with no leaves. You can hear little rumbling of thunder in the backdrop. As lightning flashes across the gray sky. And Christ, with only his eyes peering out from a shaded cloak says, mentioning those eerie words, "No man"...THUNDER suddenly claps. I would give anything to have been there!

That type of stuff will make you run so far away until your heart gives out; or even do something in your pants just listening to it! Man, I'm shaking now.:scare:

KenshinZ
06-17-2007, 05:25 AM
Hell, it'll probably never happen, but it'd nice to pretend and make-believe--keeps our creative sides open.

Like here : http://z12.invisionfree.com/STUDDevelopment/index.php

Corpse Grinder
06-20-2007, 07:34 AM
It should have happened years ago when I was still young & able. Now I'm old & decrepid! (hit 'em with my cane!)

Dischaz
06-22-2007, 06:35 PM
I dont believe in it, but its always good to keep a few blunt objects by your bedside just incase. >:0

xordae
06-24-2007, 01:43 AM
Without life pumping in the body, and the conscience of the brain to do something, a dead body can't do jack. I could imagine scientists being clever enough to take a recently deceased and stimulate him with electronics, so the body will move in a certain way. But death is a one way street. Within a short time, nothing will be able to reactivate the brain in such a way that the body will be animated.

The 28 Days Later theory.. well. Everyone knows Rabies. But I doubt that there is a virus able to specifically twist a human in such a way that he becomes an aggression machine. There are military drugs to enhance a soldier's fighting potential, but I wager that an infection so cruel would within the shortest time destroy the infected body from the inside. No one's going to have such a chemical imbalance and go on a dandy, week-long killing spree. Still, I feel probably like everyone did when the credits rolled after the movie. Checking the nearest window and thinking that it would be hell-a-scary.

Zombie Lurv
06-24-2007, 03:07 PM
I wanna say no, I really do...But see my mind tends to run away with me and tells me that there is a serious possibility they could exist. Not the dead rising from the grave persay But the possibility of a virus, man made or natural that screws with the brain, or with the body system in some way creating what we would call 'Zombies.'

****... I have some serious issues with the topic, I mean I get paranoid pretty bad from time to time. And yet I keep coming back for more. Damn obsessions. Any one else have that problem? ...probbabbly not....><'

zephyr
06-24-2007, 10:53 PM
Currently, no. But in the upcoming centuries, it may be possible to use nano or biotech to turn a person into some type of zombie. I believe its possible that someone that is either really smart or really hates the world to invent some type of mind altering drug/nanotech in the next couple decades to temporary change a person into some type of zombie. They'll just be much easier to kill, unlike a real zombie.

Twistedlink
06-28-2007, 12:59 AM
I think its possible if it was like a 28 days later outbreak thats .. very possible

Zombie333
06-28-2007, 04:16 AM
I voted yes because many things now days that people thort were impossible 1000 years ago are in fact possible so i just said yes plainly because of the unknown:)

Darius
06-28-2007, 12:17 PM
i think its possible but at the same time not.so im not sure.

Darius
06-28-2007, 12:20 PM
i just remembered that romero created flesh eaters until then there was only voodoo

Rocque
06-28-2007, 02:17 PM
WEll their are so many zombie scenarios that have popped up in many cinema movies with alot of different zombie scenarios. Aliens making humans into zombies is a definite no. Zombies that risen because hell has overpopulated is a no. Zombies that are alive because of contamination by radiation is almost impossible. Because radiation attacks mostly genetic material. So you it might be possible to become a mutant but zombie no. To start a zombie invasion you would need to do something like in 28 day later or now 28 weeks later. And for an invasion you would need to spread somehow. So it would have to be from some biological weapons that spreads a certain manmade element that was made specifically made to create zombie or zombie like people. And certainly the people who would be willing to do that type of research would find it hard to get funding.

Shredmonkey
06-29-2007, 11:22 AM
In truth? I think it's more likely that the people who say the world is ran by giant lizards are correct rather than a zombie outbreak happening.

However, at least if one does I will be able to test my threory that a stout lentgth of wood is a far more effective weapon than a gun during an outbreak of the undead.

magzo
06-30-2007, 08:12 PM
I completely believe a zombie out break in some out of this world way is possible. I really do. Be it in the future with advanced biochemical weapons or something else. I really do believe it's possible.

3xmortis
07-01-2007, 01:06 PM
ok.......while i would love to see people rise from the dead and feast on the living, (no im not satanic) i would have to say that it would not be possible. Although, i would say it is possible to have dying people who have gone mad and have become aggresive due to a infectous disease :) but no proper zombies :cry: SIGH.....it would be friggin amwsum if it was possible tho......

oktanis
07-02-2007, 06:03 AM
ouch.... a lot of great point being brought out into the open...
as for me, im sort of a nutral. although im rather sure the dead coulde'nt just hop out of the ground and begin attacking the living, i have given a great amount of thought as to how it could be possible.
take this set of questions and answers


Q's
1.Rigar Mortis (sp?) after like 8 hours (don't quote me, i'm not sure of the time) Rigar Mortis sets in causing the living to no longer move and sease up. (duh right?)
2.what keeps them alive so to speak? wont they need air to power the muscles at least? food? water?
3.why dont they fully decompose after like a year?
4.why do they go nuts? i don't think the drive for food would cause a zed to do that...


A's
1. maybe the virus causes the blood to fully become stagnant and turn into a form of hydrolic fluid that keeps everything running, and soft?

2. this i really can answer... but, maybe air is taken in through the skin and pores? maybe the Zeds recycle their own bodies, like the food they bring in, they just don't eject it, they reuse it? maybe the virus mixes with the blood causing a chemical reaction giving the body enough nutrients to stay moving?

3. as to why they don't decompose... meh... maybe the virus is so dead it allows nothing alive to remain living inside it, stopping the decomposition process altogether?

4. maybe the virus looks at all things alive as a threat to its survival, that would also explain why zeds don't usually attack each other, because A. they are trying to survive, and B. they may not be able to detect anything living in the undead...


i personally think that all of these things are plausible, but really, for them to come together as one virus and for everything to happen would be one in a billion.
i still want it to happen so badly tho, it would give humans a fresh start on life as it is, a chance to rebuild.

and the general lawlessness and onset of total chaos would kick ass imo

lavel
07-14-2007, 12:32 PM
I think if a zombie outbreak would occur, it wouldn't be like 28 Days Later, the process of catching the blood made the people come back with amazing strength, and amazing running abilities. The heart can only take so much beats a minute to take in oxygen to the head and to other organs for something like that to occur. If the dead actually come back like that, causing the heart too easily explode, leaving just alone the brain to function, blood has to keep up with the brain in order for the dead to run as fast as they do. Does the brain go by minutes? No. It goes on impulse. It's like a computer so if the dead are coming back are they going by the brain or by the blood transporting through out the system. Blood is already coagulated so no to blood. Then we must say the dead are computerized by the brain. It functions only by the brain, and that's it. Then we must go how fast can the brain hold within an hour and then see how fast a zombie can actually be energized off of it.:roll:

Ginga
07-15-2007, 01:58 PM
We already have rabies which reacts quite strongly on the most docile of animals, and imagine if that virus somehow mutated to have those same effects in humans? That's scary stuff.

I'd see this a possibility, considering how scientists still struggle to understand viruses and develop medicine against them. Or at least they did a few years ago, dunno if the situation has had any drastic changes in such a short time.

Who knows if some government would see spreading zombie epidemic secretly, more subtle than nuclear bomb or war, meaning sustaining better relations to other countries. It would be a great biological weapon if sympthons weren't noticeable until a week or more had passed from infection, especially if the virus could spread airborne or even without its host touching the victim.

Honestly, you never know if someone managed to create such a virus.

duner
07-15-2007, 05:28 PM
With all this zombie survival talk who acually believes a zombie outbreak could happen? Personally I dont believe it for a second, even as much as i love anything to do with zombies.
I couldnt agree more. Although i did vote in Not Sure, since some stuff i didnt believe in actually did happend.

SurvivalOfTheLeastTasty
07-15-2007, 07:21 PM
ouch.... a lot of great point being brought out into the open...
as for me, im sort of a nutral. although im rather sure the dead coulde'nt just hop out of the ground and begin attacking the living, i have given a great amount of thought as to how it could be possible.
take this set of questions and answers


Q's
1.Rigar Mortis (sp?) after like 8 hours (don't quote me, i'm not sure of the time) Rigar Mortis sets in causing the living to no longer move and sease up. (duh right?)
2.what keeps them alive so to speak? wont they need air to power the muscles at least? food? water?
3.why dont they fully decompose after like a year?
4.why do they go nuts? i don't think the drive for food would cause a zed to do that...


A's
1. maybe the virus causes the blood to fully become stagnant and turn into a form of hydrolic fluid that keeps everything running, and soft?

2. this i really can answer... but, maybe air is taken in through the skin and pores? maybe the Zeds recycle their own bodies, like the food they bring in, they just don't eject it, they reuse it? maybe the virus mixes with the blood causing a chemical reaction giving the body enough nutrients to stay moving?

3. as to why they don't decompose... meh... maybe the virus is so dead it allows nothing alive to remain living inside it, stopping the decomposition process altogether?

4. maybe the virus looks at all things alive as a threat to its survival, that would also explain why zeds don't usually attack each other, because A. they are trying to survive, and B. they may not be able to detect anything living in the undead...


i personally think that all of these things are plausible, but really, for them to come together as one virus and for everything to happen would be one in a billion.
i still want it to happen so badly tho, it would give humans a fresh start on life as it is, a chance to rebuild.

and the general lawlessness and onset of total chaos would kick ass imo

Some interesting points. However your question about rigor mortis is more easily answered by the fact that rigor is only a temporary condition in a dead body.

Sambob
07-15-2007, 07:28 PM
I'm going to go with nothing it impossible, only very improbable.

It could happen but it's very unlikely.

Horror of Party Beach
07-16-2007, 02:21 AM
I put not sure. Logic tells me no, but my gut feeling and my head usually don't agree on stuff. I want to be ready anyway, even if it defies all logic. It's such... SUCH a scary scenerio. Likelihood is... nah, couldn't happen. But still....

ZombieJohn
07-16-2007, 12:24 PM
I'm going to go with nothing it impossible, only very improbable.

It could happen but it's very unlikely.

I'll second that, And I doubt it would be a Zombie outbreak. Maybe a super rabies of some sort but no way is it a reanimation of some sort, Or like Sam said, It's improbable.

mazlionheart
07-26-2007, 10:44 AM
I still stick with you never know what can happen I mean its not like the government would ever be honest with us if they screwed up on some experiments causing people to go into a zombified state....

zombieslayr
07-31-2007, 10:02 PM
Some form of rabies could mutate into a zombie virus. Or there is a parasite that attacks crickets and snails and controls them what if it turned on humans? Zombie viruses do exist

Faran Brigo
07-31-2007, 10:57 PM
Excuse me, but there's a huge leap between a virus that alters behavior and causes death, and a life form (it can't be a virus since they need living hosts) that reanimates corpses. If indeed there was something like that it would be limited to reanimating fresh corpses, and it would require an active metabolism which means brain, heart, and lungs would be working. Hardly a zombie.

However rabies is more or less like the virus in 28 days later, that's pretty feasible (although unlikely).

Undead? borderline impossible (nothing is), but other doomsday scenarios like climate change, a space object impacting earth, a deadly (not undeath) plague, and a nuclear war are far more probable.

Nevertheless, Semper Paratus is not a bad motto.

zombieslayr
07-31-2007, 11:38 PM
Reanimating the dead is impossible I agree with that. Im talking zombies that are living. Humans that have gone mad and canibalistic. There are drugs and diseases that make the person impervious to pain so it is possible get the right mutation of a parasite or virus and who knows?

Daemon
08-01-2007, 07:53 AM
As much as i would like to say yes, i just dont think that a true zombie outbreak - the recently departed returning to life and feasting upon the living - could happen. This said, i do like to think what i would do in the event of an outbreak (kinda embarassing...) :roll:

Max Brooks
08-15-2007, 02:15 PM
I think its quite possible, but likely? No.

what if the subjcet in question wasn't really dead? just dead by our version of 'dead'.

For example. The virus could manipulate the body so the internal organs. (heart, digestive system, circulatory system.) Didn't need to work for the body to move? So scince the body dosen't need it. It will simply shut them down.

So an expert could easily declare a subject dead, only for it to rise up and bite one of the nurses, and so on and so on.

But really, how long would it take for a virus to evolve so it could do something like that?

chewy
08-15-2007, 02:24 PM
But really, how long would it take for a virus to evolve so it could do something like that?

For it to change how virtually every organ system functions, as well as take control of brain function? I'd say a virus would evolve to that point somewhere around the same time as hell freezes over.

Max Brooks
08-15-2007, 02:25 PM
For it to change how virtually every organ system functions, as well as take control of brain function? I'd say a virus would evolve to that point somewhere around the same time as hell freezes over.

Exactly, so i voted, 'not sure'

Jimmy
08-15-2007, 10:50 PM
I voted yes...

I'm not going to explain my whole theory but it has something to do with biological weapons and the government. =p

EDIT: We had nukes in like the 50's. Think how much more advanced we are now. I think our government could easily comeup with a "virus" or an "infection" that could effect humans like the 28 days later infection. To be used as a last resort weapon on a country/countries we're at war with. imo... >_>

Max Brooks
08-16-2007, 01:53 AM
Well, that could easily erupt into something like 28days later. Like in World War Z , where people took organs from the infected who hadn't reanimated yet to make a quick profit, then people would get them from the black market, and would become infected, who would then infect others, and so on.

Zombie Survivor
08-16-2007, 11:38 AM
Well, that could easily erupt into something like 28days later. Like in World War Z , where people took organs from dead zombies to make a quick profit, then people would get them from the black market, and would become infected, who would then infect others, and so on.

Actually, the organs were from people who were infected, before they reanimated :)

Max Brooks
08-16-2007, 01:52 PM
Really? Hold on....*gets book*

Oh yeah, lol. I'll edit my post.

dualshock71
08-18-2007, 12:48 AM
Given the fact that humans don't seem able to let it rest, I'm sure that eventually some government will release a virus on their enemies that turns them into zombies. A bit of stupidity and you have an apocalypse. It makes sense, in its own way.

Slashmatrix
08-19-2007, 04:31 PM
I voted "NO" just due to the ambiguity of the question. Do I believe that a walking, rotting corpse will turn others into walking, rotting corpses until an apocalyptic scenario occurs? NO.

However, the afore mentioned "28 Days Later" scenario? Possibly. "But they aren't zombies!" you might say. Does it really matter when a highly contagious psycho/cannibalistic mob descends on you if they are what purists call "real zombies" or not? Some may even point out that what made Romero's zombies so scary was their loss of identity, the embodiment of conformity and consumerism destroying your free will and sense of self. The horror of not only dying, but winding up like them or having to put down a loved one who has been turned.

On a realistic/non-psycho-babble note; I think the parasite idea might have some credence, too. There are parasites that have been known to alter their host's behavior to a destructive end. Toxoplasmosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis#Biological_modifications_of_the_host ) is one example. The parasite infects a mouse and causes the mouse to have a suicidal attraction to cats which cases the mouse to be eaten by the cat which the parasite now infects. Some studies show that humans who are infected show such behavioral changes as:

(As listed on the Wikipedia Page related to Toxoplasmosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasmosis))

Increased risk taking behavior
Slower reactions
Feelings of insecurity and self-doubt
Neuroticism


Now, this behavior modification works UP the food-chain instead of DOWN, with the infected host being consumed rather than trying to consume the intended victim. When you think about it, it's actually more efficient that way. It would be against a parasite's best interest to harm a host before infection. Unless, of course, there is a case of mutation. Mutation need not be man-made as evidenced mutations caused by volcanic eruption. Such an organism would not likely thrive as it would run the risk of killing its potential new hosts.

In theory, I could see how a mutated form of rabies would be more likely to produce the desired results:


Severe Aggression
Irrational Behavior/Psychosis
Loss of Reasoning Ability
Resistance to Pain or Injury (Perhaps increased Dopamine and Adrenal levels)
No Direct Incapacitation or Death of the Host by Infection
Ease of Transmission (Saliva, Blood)
Low Gestation Time (Mere hours after primary infection)
Desire for Protein (An insatiable need to feed)


I just find it unlikely.

mattifikation
08-25-2007, 09:02 PM
No, no I do not believe in a zombie outbreak.

Yes, I do believe that a 28 Days Later scenario could happen. In fact, I'd be suprised if something exactly like that Rage virus wasn't cooked up in a Soviet lab at some point during the Cold War, only to disappear into the murky mists of the terrorist black market when the Soviet Union collapsed...

C J
08-25-2007, 10:37 PM
I totally do:)!!! There was a zombie parade on Denman Street today in Vancouver, BC. I didn't get a chance to see it unfortunately but the receptionist at the desk was commenting about it.

Occoris
08-26-2007, 08:05 PM
Y'know.. I dunno what to really think on this one. Because whiel i believe that the 28DL is definately possible.. it still doesn;t fit the definition of zombie-
in which case we're closer to talking about a mob of seriously agressive drunks.
actually, there's a type of drug that sends people into some serious depression/violence/suicidal crap.
=O maybe that's it.

yeah.. honestly, i think that given how humans like to mess with things, we'll find a way to get something PRETTY close to today's definition of "zombie"- but nothing exact.
and it'll be entirely on accident, and kind of, if i'm rememebrhing gams i've never played correctly, sort of an Umbrella deal going on.

but.. yeah. Giant lizards=more likely at this point in time.

ZombiesNTea
09-17-2007, 10:28 PM
Possibly, if it were some kind of 28 Days Later virus outbreak.

ZombiesAteMyDog
09-17-2007, 11:24 PM
I never believed in one til a zombie ate my head, now if youll excuse me I have someone's brain to eat :zom1:

on a more serious note, im inclined to say no, but if you go back to 1920 and try and explain a TV or computer or video game to them they would have you locked up, but look at what we got now, so ill just say who in the bloody hell knows whats posible and what is not, ANYTHING can happen tomorow, just because it hasnt happend yet, doesnt mean it cant

cheers :drinking:

Uinen
09-18-2007, 08:52 PM
I went ahead and put a yes. heh. YA NEVA KNOW!.... and just incase it does happen, I just wanna be the one who says "Told ya so." ^_^

Runn 4 WV Hillz
09-20-2007, 08:44 PM
yeh its gonna happen,,,,you guys try to runn 4 the hillz!!!!:lol::lol:

MrShape666
09-26-2007, 04:58 AM
You know, I actually started talking to a co worker named Maureen like I really believed in a coming zombie plauge. I was telling her how I'd reinforced my house and laid out all my escape roots and was growing corn in the back yard for ethonol for the back up generators and how I was stock piling ammo and weapons. This went on all day, and she really believed that I believed it. Problem was, after a while of this, I actually had her believing in zombies. I don't know how, but at some point she started to think that there really were zombies out there. Even after I told her that I suspected Lindsay Lohan of being a zombie. And she was scared, too, because she lives alone. She started getting freaked out, and wanted to work overtime because she was afraid to go home. Thing is, she's 46 years old! Nine years older then me.
I finally told her, "Look, Maureen. I'm kidding. You don't have to worry about zombies . . . it's the vampires you're going to have to worry about because they won't feed on the zombies, they'll be coming for the last few living humans . . ."

Maureen has blonde highlights, but I'm sure it's unrelated.

Amsterdamm
09-26-2007, 11:41 AM
Being that an animate undead state, as defined by zombie genre, is scientifically impossible, it would require an act of God for zombie outbreak to occur in the classical undead zombie sense.

However, a 28DL/28WL scenario of a highly infectious and commutable disease that drives the infected to a hyper-aggressive mental state (something akin a human form of rabies) is entirely within the realm of possiblity.

Now, no such disease is known to Man, but new diseases are discovered all the time; after all, AIDS was unknown to science until the early 80s.

Aleister Crowley
10-04-2007, 03:15 PM
As most say, I want to say yes, but I find it very rare. It's about as likely to happen as Jesus Christ himself appearing taking all the "non-sinners" to heaven while the rest rot in hell. (I'm a Satanist....NO, it is NOT the worship of Satan, not even close.)

BUT, ya never know. According to the Zombie Survival Guide, which I assume most of you read, I mean I would expect so if you're all for zombies. Anywho it is said that the Virus just temporarily shuts down the body system, only reactivating certain systems. Such as the ability for the brain to control movement, and natural instincts. (I apologize I don't have the book with me at the moment, and I have a horrid memory, so correct me on anything.)

So yeah...crap happens.

:x <---- THAT is by FAR one of the GREATEST smiley EVER!

Malek
10-10-2007, 06:47 PM
I belive it can be done,i mean man didnt start out with guns and fire,yet we got that done,we went to the moon..((i think)) and we even have tiny KITTENS!!!!

8mmUltra
10-10-2007, 10:04 PM
I belive it can be done,i mean man didnt start out with guns and fire,yet we got that done,we went to the moon..((i think)) and we even have tiny KITTENS!!!!

WHAT! ! ! are you trying to say? ? ? ?

Malek
10-12-2007, 07:03 PM
WHAT! ! ! are you trying to say? ? ? ?

Trying to say that i am Crazy and i like Kittens and Pie...And zombies :loon:

Zombie Survivor
10-13-2007, 06:01 AM
I finally told her, "Look, Maureen. I'm kidding. You don't have to worry about zombies . . . it's the vampires you're going to have to worry about because they won't feed on the zombies, they'll be coming for the last few living humans . . ."

You're mean :-( But also hilarious :)

Augustus Desius
10-16-2007, 08:47 AM
Though I'm not willing to say that it is entirely impossible (given the size and and number of events that occur in the universe) I am willing to say that neither I nor any of my descendants will likely experience an outbreak. Which is sad, because I really want one to occur.

Zerombie
10-16-2007, 10:36 AM
Maybe... Maybe not... What's it to ya anyways???

ANd to clarify for anyone that might be confused. Maybe it will happen. Maybe it won't happen. WHat's it to you that you want to know if I think it will or won't? Creating a list of contacts if it does by chance?

Pain
10-16-2007, 10:42 AM
Keep it on topic

NotoriousDIT
10-28-2007, 08:28 AM
Suppose Martians reanimated the dead with their Martian technology... no one would even see it coming, and it'd all be NASA's fault.

ZombieFreeWorld
11-29-2007, 04:26 PM
i believe in a outbreak and i understand that it is completely possiable. i believe it will be of a religious type of Zombies in a sense of the whole "hell is overflowed and the dead will walk the earth" i believe this because, well 98% of the earth believes in some form of religion.

Iron Knuckles
11-29-2007, 04:54 PM
Not at all. I mean its fun to play around with the idea but in all honesty like all the survival stuff I do and gear I own works for any extreme situation not only zombies taking over the planet. Part of my survivalist plan is to baracade my house with hordes of food and water ect... thats all the same stuff I would need if I was snowed in like I was in 96.
All my camping and B.O.B. is just good planning for "just incase" everything from hurricane [hasnt happened in vermont for a while] to a bag of stuff by the door to grab if my house is on fire I'll atleast have something.

chewy
12-11-2007, 10:58 PM
i believe this because, well 98% of the earth believes in some form of religion.

Yield to peer pressure much?

lavel
12-12-2007, 12:49 PM
Trying to say that i am Crazy and i like Kittens and Pie...And zombies :loon:

I'm going to ask this even though it may seem crazy but what type of pie??

magzo
12-12-2007, 08:20 PM
Some crazy organization or country is going to make zombies a reality. You just wait :]

Countbad
12-17-2007, 01:31 AM
I voted not sure. It is scientifically plausible that a virus, parasite or disease could could turn humans into mindless living "zombies". There are organisms in nature that do things that are similar. Rabies or some parasites that take over the nervous systems of their host. Life is constantly evolving. Still As much as I'd like to live thru a Romero type outbreak of walking dead, I think that is pretty unlikely. Extremely unlikely but yet still plausible.

Darkness
12-17-2007, 01:57 AM
I voted not sure. It is scientifically plausible that a virus, parasite or disease could could turn humans into mindless living "zombies". There are organisms in nature that do things that are similar. Rabies or some parasites that take over the nervous systems of their host. Life is constantly evolving. Still As much as I'd like to live thru a Romero type outbreak of walking dead, I think that is pretty unlikely. Extremely unlikely but yet still plausible.

"And nanobots. Let's not forget the nanobots." :)

Corpse Grinder
12-17-2007, 02:57 AM
"And nanobots. Let's not forget the nanobots." :)

But will the nanobots be created to make people into zombies or will they accidently turn people into them?

Darkness
12-17-2007, 03:16 AM
"And/or both?"