W.T.F. mate?! Zombie titles.

[Rag-Doll]

Okay, recently watched Zombi/Zombie or however they spelt it by Lucio Fulci , and apperantly zombi/zombie 2 was George A romero's dawn of the dead.. but zombi 2 was - well I think it was Zombie Creeping Flesh, and then there was Zombie Flesh eaters and Zombie Flesh eaters 2, were they part of the series of zombi. You can see by this i'm all confused and mixed up. I searched stuff on imdb and I think it was zombie flesh eaters was mainly titled zombi 2, and zombie creeping flesh had the same cover of zombi flesh eaters but it isn't part of the series.. is it? Okay basically what in the series.. am I making any sense at all?

[Pain]

You're making a little sense Rag-Doll:lol:

In Italy Dawn of the Dead was released as Zombi:Dawn of the Dead. So when Fulci's movie was released they named it Zombi 2 (even though Zombi 2 was written before Dawn and was in production at the same time).

In the UK it was released as Zombie Flesh Eaters.

Zombie Creeping Flesh is not related to either Fulci's or Romero's movies.

I recommend reading Eaten Alive: Italian Cannibal and Zombie Movies as that might help clarify things as it lists every Italian zombie movie.

[evilzombie20]

Ok here we go;

The Italian producers of "Zombie" or "Zombi 2" as it's come to have been known as in the states, got the brilliant idea to market it as a sequel to Romero's "Dawn of the Dead" which was called "Zombie" in Italy. Since there was no "Zombie" in the U.S., just "Dawn of the Dead", the film came out in the U.S. as just plain "Zombie".

It was retitled as "Zombie Flesh Eaters" and "Island of the Living Dead", there's also more titles for it but I can't think of em'. "Zombie Creeping Flesh" or "Hell of the Living Dead" has NOTHING to do with Romero's or Fulci's zombie films. It was done by Bruno Mattei to basically cash in on both films, which is why I'm assuming they both use the same basic theme.

The official line up of the zombie series is as follows;

Zombi 2 (79') a.k.a. Zombie, Zombie Flesh Eaters and Island of the Living Dead
Zombi 3 (88') a.k.a. Zombie Flesh Eaters 2
After Death: Zombie 4 (88') a.k.a. After Death, Zombie Flesh Eaters 3, and Return of the Living Dead Part 3

Many companies, including Shreik Show who put the much inferior "Killing Birds" under the title "Zombie 5" which incidentally was made in 87' before the "real" sequels to the original "Zombie", have fed off the confusion of this series by retitling bad zombie films with the "Zombie" title before it. Example, "Zombie 4: A Virgin Among the Living Dead". "A Virgin Among the Living Dead" was made in 73' and didn't even feature any zombies in it until another director came and shot some insert scenes which were used in the U.S. home video release. Among the retitles are; "Return of the Zombies" (73'), "Revenge in the House of Usher" (81'?), "Let Sleeping Corpses Lie" (74'), "Burial Ground" (80'), and "Monster Hunter" (82') - which incidentally is the sequel to "Anthropohagus" a.k.a. "The Grim Reaper".

So you see there is a lot of confusion to be had but Romero's film is not in any relation to Fulci's "Zombie" nor is "Zombie" connected with Romero's "Dawn of the Dead". Just a simple cash in which caused a lot of confusion.

And a little side not, despite constant retitlings by several companies, no other country besides the U.K. has retitled the official "Zombie" series to match up so there is in a sense, no "Zombie 2" in the U.S. Unfortunately the U.K. versions of all 3 films are still not fully uncut. Shame it would be nice to have a consistant series that makes sense without having to explain all of what I just explained in the U.S., just a hell of a lot of confusion.

[Rag-Doll]

Oh Sweet I get it :) thanks

[ZombieJohn]

i am confused.

[evilzombie20]

i am confused.

About what exactly?

[The Blind Dead]

i am confused.
Here's a shorter more to the point explanation.

When George Romero's Dawn of the Dead was distributed overseas it was renamed Zombi. Meanwhile, Italian horror director Lucio Fulci was working on his own undead film. To capitalize off of Dawn of the Dead/Zombi's popularity he titled his film Zombi 2.

Italian horror films are regularly retitled as sequels to other superior horror films in order to generate interest and funds.

Later on, when Zombi went back to being Dawn of the Dead, Fulci's Zombi 2 was retitled Zombie. Just plain old Zombie.

In some places it's called Zombi, Zombie, Zombi 2 and Zombie Flesh Eaters. It's got a ton of names but at this point in time the only one you need to know is...

George Romero = Dawn of the Dead/Zombi
Lucio Fulci = Zombie/Zombi 2

[evilzombie20]

Here's a shorter more to the point explanation.

When George Romero's Dawn of the Dead was distributed overseas it was renamed Zombi. Meanwhile, Italian horror director Lucio Fulci was working on his own undead film. To capitalize off of Dawn of the Dead/Zombi's popularity he titled his film Zombi 2.

Italian horror films are regularly retitled as sequels to other superior horror films in order to generate interest and funds.

Later on, when Zombi went back to being Dawn of the Dead, Fulci's Zombi 2 was retitled Zombie. Just plain old Zombie.

In some places it's called Zombi, Zombie, Zombi 2 and Zombie Flesh Eaters. It's got a ton of names but at this point in time the only one you need to know is...

George Romero = Dawn of the Dead/Zombi
Lucio Fulci = Zombie/Zombi 2

Basically, but Fulci didn't re-title the movie as "Zombi 2", the prodcuers did. He was actually very upset by the re-title because the original Italian title was; "Gli Ultimi zombi" which actually translates into English as "The Last One's Zombie". So I'm not sure if the film in the U.S. would've been marketable with that title so I would imagine a re-titling on our part chosen by the film's distributor but not a cash in to another movie as the re-titling for this film. I do believe the original plan was the film was going to be released as "The Island of the Living Dead".